Official Episode Discussion: "The Incredible Shrinking Serling" [Archive]

Machias Banshee

10-21-2008, 10:09 PM

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Greetings, Organic...

I suppose you're here for one of that reptilian woman's 'teasers', yes? I suppose it is being left for me to take care of, of course. It is not as if I have anything important to do...

I guess I must explain how I am here in this time. When we were finally sending the turtles back to their own time, Viral appeared and pulled them through a rather nasty chronological gauntlet. I was overtaken by the wretched woman and forced into the time window, and we had a dreadful accident involving the Master Splinter. We ended up in this time and I have been stuck in this underground cesspool ever since.

I can assure you that spending these past weeks here 100 years in the past have driven me to the end of my fiber optics. At least in my time, when the turtles ere too much, they would leave with Cody for a time and give me some sort of respite...

Cody... I worry for my young master. I was separated from him at the most dangerous time I can ever recall in his young life. Between Mister Darius and those cretinous clones, I've hardly been able to recharge without some dreadful thought tormenting me. I suppose I can relate to the turtles losing their mentor. Young Donatello has been relentless in his search for the scattered fragments of his father. I would suppose young Master is trying to do the same..

That is not to say that I have been sitting on my laurels like an overgrown paperweight. During the weeks that I have been trapped here, I have made myself familiar with Donatello's Laboratory. The technology is Archaic, to say the least, but I have managed to put together a makeshift window. My hope being that I can get back to 2105 before any irreparable damage is done...

Oh, I long for the order and relative peace of my time. It gave me great joy to meet Ms April O'Neil and Mr. Casey Jones, but I am needed in my own time. Unfortunately, if there is one thing I have learned, it is to expect Something to go wrong. The title of this alone fills me with a deep dread. It seems I will have made a slight miscalculation in my setup of the time window.

Oh goody... Do I get to battle insects and nearly drown in a bowl of cereal while risking being eaten? Or will I end up in some unknown orifice that will haunt me until the day I am decommissioned?

I swear I was made to suffer...

Hmm.. It seems there are some questions for you to consider before watching this episode. Why in the world does she write this in all capital letters? I am an anachronism, I am not BLIND....

'WILL SERLING MANAGE TO CATCH A GLIMPSE OF HIS OWN TIME?
COULD DONATELLO USE THIS WINDOW TO PREVENT SPLINTER'S DEATH?

My word... why would anyone read this drivel?

heheh... And even though Serling wants to tear out his servos whenever I say it...

STAY TUNED!!!

Machias Banshee

10-25-2008, 08:32 AM

I love it when I'm right.... :D

Thread OPEN!

VaughnMichael

10-25-2008, 08:33 AM

I'm sure most people are going to hate this episode, the only thing I really didn't like is how easily the turtles went for what Serling was up to, but we wouldn't have much of a story then would we.
On the other hand I'm sure fans of the Buck Toothed Looney Tot Turtles will enjoy it, *vomits*
Hah I agree with Serling though, I'm totally sick of dinosaurs.
I wonder if that little boy was supposed to be someone famous, and boy Serling sure got himself in a bind with that one.
I'm seriously not a fan of these Tot Turtles, Splinter is a nice balance to it all though.
That Toy Guy is seriously Nuts, I have to wonder if the turtles treat Serling the way they do because of the events of this episode.
Well it wasn't much of an episode but it was different from the usual, fight thugs stuff we usually get out of turtles.
This Episode makes me glad I have a Serling figure now though lol:lol:
I think the best part of this episode was the ending and having Serling running across the roof tops with the guys.

Kunoichi_Haruko

10-25-2008, 08:36 AM

Ugh. Just ugh.

Best part: Seeing Splinter kick a bit of robot butt. Liked little Leo's voice, but that's about it.

I'm sure most people are going to hate this episode, the only thing I really didn't like is how easily the turtles went for what Serling was up to, but we wouldn't have much of a story then would we. That annoyed me as well.

syk_skillz

10-25-2008, 08:38 AM

Most annoying episode ever!

CyberCubed

10-25-2008, 08:40 AM

It was a decent filler ep, no more no less. We get one of these almost every season, (along with another Turtle Titan episode)

This episode almost seemed like a remake of the old toon's, "Michaelangelo Toys around."

If you're going to borrow plots from the 80's show, I guess it had to be one about evil toy robots?

I did like seeing Splinter again, it really reminds you he's been absent all season.

VaughnMichael

10-25-2008, 08:45 AM

Most annoying episode ever!
I don't know I'd say it's a tie between all the other toddler Turtles Episodes.:dead:

notebook

10-25-2008, 09:08 AM

Ugh, indeed.

I dont mind the Turtle tots and it was nice seeing Splinter again, but this was a lame episode.
Not just cause Serling's one of the most annoying charcters ever, but that toy guy was way over the top. The "examination table" with the saws and drills, the army of homocidal toy robots, his tossed off rehabilitation at the end of the episode...lame, seriously lame.

I dont get it. We had such a wonderful opportunity to write Serling out of the show. I hope this is the last time he gets center stage.

teacher fan

10-25-2008, 09:18 AM

I thought this episode was good. One of the things I like about Ninja Turtles is it's ability to do serious stories and funny stories (just as long as one side isn't done too much during a season). To me what made this episode great was seeing the Turtles as little children. It was very surprising and very funny. Plus seeing Splinter again with the ability to really fight was great. It was also pretty interesting to see time travel finally used in a little Turtles story, rather than present it as a flashback like it has been done before. Good episode.

Drtooth

10-25-2008, 09:32 AM

I'm sure most people are going to hate this episode, the only thing I really didn't like is how easily the turtles went for what Serling was up to, but we wouldn't have much of a story then would we.

I didn't so much hate the episode, as much as I just felt like it really didn't do much. I mean, it was a good character study of Serling... and at least he didn't use a pencil as a weapon, and get chased by a cat, like I thought (Come on, I've seen every 1980's cartoon there was. I'm on to the "Obligatory Shrinking Episode" bit by now). Can't so much say it was bad (I liked how it linked the time frames he visited), but it seemed like a left over FF script mixed with a late season 3/ early season 4 episode.

On the other hand I'm sure fans of the Buck Toothed Looney Tot Turtles will enjoy it, *vomits*

At least they were only in ONE episode. They could have easily gone with the series in which they were in every episode, interacting with their future selves (like that forgotten Bruce Willis movie).

I wonder if that little boy was supposed to be someone famous, and boy Serling sure got himself in a bind with that one.

Dude stepped on too many butterflies there.

Of course, the one thing that slightly bugged me was that screwing around with space and time turned him into a fat chibi version of himself. There must be some explanation in that somewhere... just don't know what it is.

Blade Raider

10-25-2008, 09:42 AM

Is...is it 1990? Seriously, this feels like an episode from season 4 of of the OT. In, fact, they should have named it "Funny, They Shrunk Serling". Also, a toy villian? Really? That's lame no matter what fiction it is. This is a really weak episode for such a short season.

Casual Matt

10-25-2008, 09:45 AM

Did anybody else notice that Splinter's design was changed slightly from that of the first episode of this season to look more like he used to?

Hooray for continuity within the animation itself.

Casual Matt

10-25-2008, 09:48 AM

Also, a toy villian? Really? That's lame no matter what fiction it is.

Batman The Animated Series. "The Mad Bomber" episode. You should check it out.

Also, in Superman The Animated Series, Toy Man was just creepy.

Shred Head

10-25-2008, 09:54 AM

Wow I knew this episode was going to suck but man I never thought it would be this bad. The thing that saved this episode from being the worst Turtles episode ever was probraly Splinter and the Serling running on the rooftops with the guys ending.

CyberCubed

10-25-2008, 10:00 AM

The toy maker reminded me of all those mad scientists from the old toon. Serling had the best humor of the episode, his "NO!" when the Turtles handed him back over to the toymaker was hilarious.

gothangel

10-25-2008, 10:04 AM

Ugg I really did not like this to much. I do not like Serling that much to begin with. I am not a fan of the Turtle Tots either. I just liked the Title because it reminded me of the 90's episode the incredible shrinking Turtles.

AND I HOPE TO GOD THEIR IS NO MORE TURTLE TITAN EPISODES! Just thought I would throw that in their lol.

Blade Raider

10-25-2008, 10:34 AM

Batman The Animated Series. "The Mad Bomber" episode. You should check it out.
Had to google that since my DVD collection is missing that episode. That said, I have no doubt Batman did it right, but good toy villians are in a very small minority.

Also, in Superman The Animated Series, Toy Man was just creepy.
Yeah, creepy, but nothing else. Ever episode he's in is boring.

Drtooth

10-25-2008, 10:38 AM

The toy maker reminded me of all those mad scientists from the old toon.

You too? It really seemed to have a feel of one of those random episodes (I.e. Rebel without a Fin) with a nonrecurring villain that comes out of no where. Plus, of course Back to the Egg...

I think Serling really did carry the episode. it was a pretty weak one, and it probably will be the worst of this season... but Serling was a lot more enjoyable than the kid turtles.

rayfillet101

10-25-2008, 10:49 AM

that episode was terrible. why does time travel always equal dinosaurs??

tOkKa

10-25-2008, 11:01 AM

The toy maker reminded me of all those mad scientists from the old toon. Serling had the best humor of the episode, his "NO!" when the Turtles handed him back over to the toymaker was hilarious.

-->> ..o please, that show made me hungry.

I couldn't believe the guest star was the guy from Cinnamon Toast Crunch !!

http://www.creebs.com/catalog/images/toast_crunch.jpg

Kunoichi_Haruko

10-25-2008, 11:07 AM

-->> ..o please, that show made me hungry.

I couldn't believe the guest star was the guy from Cinnamon Toast Crunch !!

http://www.creebs.com/catalog/images/toast_crunch.jpg

He does bear a striking resemblance... :lol:

Sage Ninja

10-25-2008, 11:26 AM

I think I'm the only one that genuanly enjoyed this episode. I thought it was cute and a nice little break. It was just a episode ment to entertain not to to make you anticipate the next move and wow you. It's nice to have little breaks like this. I will say that I'm a bit tired of every time any one time travels they end up in the dino era. :roll: Geez thats been over done so much already, why do they have to show dinosaurs to show that they've gone to far in the past? Why not an another time period like the 1800's or something? I got a little excited when Serling was dropped onto a street with horse and buggy in the back ground. I thought he was going to stay there for the duration of the episode but he ended up in the sewer with the toddler turtles.

I think I'm also in the minority and saying that I liked seeing the turtles as tots again. Though I wasn't too big on them with their buck teeth like in season five. Actually I was wondering if this took place shortly after they visited the tribunal for the first time since they don't look like "kid" age and more like their two/three year old ages. It appears that Splinter got to business as soon they got back from Japan because it seems the the tot turtles already know some ninjitsu and acrobatic moves.

Serling was funny in this episode, unlike other people here I've come to like Serling and his quirky personality. He provided me and my younger sister with many a chuckle through out. Jolly old chap that Serling is. Spot on, spot on. :lol: I've really come to like his prim and proper demeaner, it creates an irrisistable combination when he interacts with uncultured youngersters or rumbunctious teenagers. His reaction and dialogue was funny in this episde.

And it was great to see Splinter whole again. But I noticed that the screwed up continiuity by giving him a cane to walk with. He's not supposed to have a cane at this point, he gets the came years later when Draco jumpss him at the battle nexxus and injures him. Am I the only one that remembers this?

Jester

10-25-2008, 11:36 AM

It's almost a tradition: Jester's Running Commentary!!

So, no one notices that Serling is being uber-nice..."What do you want, Serling..."

Warping space and time, poor Serling. :P

Poor Soulja boy.

Turtle Tots...:roll: though it's cool to see the old lair.

Splinter!! And playing Daddy, too. :D

O...k... the little boy remembered the robot "toy"...right.

They're like kid turtles in a toy store...

"My...precious...er...cherished!"

Turtles to the rescue. "Hooray the Turtles." :P

They're toys of course...

Toy Mutant Serlings...won't this alter the time line?

It's like Small Soldiers... only with the Ninja Turtles.

Oh geeze...a giant super Serling clone!

Indeed, Raph aren't robot toys supposed to be fun...and for kids and all...

Daddy saves the day... though it seems odd he'd reveal himself to a human. Ahh there it is...

"Crazy in love with it..." Mikey again made an actual funny.

"Here you have it." "WHAT!" :D

Wendall, friend of Mutants everywhere.

Don't they remember him. Ohhhh...right...he was stubby...that's why. Riiight. Where's Simultaneous with all these time disruptions?

Hero

10-25-2008, 11:47 AM

Just seen this ep thanks to tmnt-files.

Mini Mutants Serling was awesome. A pleasant return from the Toddler TMNT and Splinter. Really enjoyed this episode.

===HERO

Aska_Badoura

10-25-2008, 12:18 PM

*pouts, sulks, etc*
I forgot how much they like to rearrange scheduling... I have a Spider-Man ep on my tape, and no Turtles. :(
Hopefully I'll get to see it later... I'm a Serling fan, too. *more pouting*

Mandi-chan

10-25-2008, 12:45 PM

And it was great to see Splinter whole again. But I noticed that the screwed up continiuity by giving him a cane to walk with. He's not supposed to have a cane at this point, he gets the came years later when Draco jumpss him at the battle nexxus and injures him. Am I the only one that remembers this?

If I remember correctly, Splinter is caneless through the first half of "Fathers & Sons"...and then suddenly he was using the cane to walk.

I don't remember if the show established when Splinter defeated Draco at the Battle Nexus...how old the turtles were at that time.

I haven't seen this week's ep yet (waiting for it to come online), but am curious to know...do the VAs do a better job sounding like little kids? While they did an okay job in past episodes sounding like children, they were horrible in "Fathers and Sons" (most of the time they sounded like their present day selves...hardly any effort to sound little...that made the episode somewhat irritating to me along with the stupid looking buck-teeth look.)

cowabunga14

10-25-2008, 01:33 PM

This episode seemed pretty fun. It was different for this season and I'm gald it was. I dunno about you guys, but I like light stuff once in a while. The toddler Turtles and the fact that Serling was small was a nice attempt at a kid friendly aspect. I didn't think that would work all that well, but it actually did.

I think the humor was well-represented and it didn't feel overused. Serling just did some funny, unexpected things and I wouldn't mind seeing more of that.

All in all, a fun episode. Not exactly what I expected, but I'm glad it focused more on the aspects of Splinter's wisdom and the Turtles' concern for one another as toddlers. Can't wait till next week's.

Cipher

10-25-2008, 02:16 PM

It was definately a throw-away episode, but shoot me, I really didn't mind it. I've always liked Serling, so it was nice to see him star in an episode, and it's about time his separation from Cody be brought up. Turtle tots were alot less annoying here than they were in "Fathers and Sons," but I still hate them.

Still, this was much better than any of the Turtle Titan/Justice Force episodes they seem so fond of.

Two things I really loved were: a) The confirmation of a predistination time theory. Meaning the timeline already accounts for instances of time travel. Apparently the Turtles remembered having their "toy" before they even met Serling, and were suprised to learn that it was their own time travel escapades that landed him in the past. b) The Turtles finally did something nice for Serling. It wasn't doing their characters any good when they were being dicks to him.

Raph's Girl

10-25-2008, 03:24 PM

Well it may have been called "The Incredible Shrinking Serling" but he only shrunk down to action figure size. I totally didn't expect a Chibi Turtle ep!! I love how Splinter even looked younger.

The toy shop owner reminded me ALOT of the DC villian Toy Man. But at least he realized it was stupid to pine for a toy for 80 years.

Still it was kinda nice that Serling gave the turtles things to do. I would have LOVED to have gone with Leo to see that museum exhibit on the Kamakura period.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamakura_period

I for one loved this ep. Course I love all the Chibi Turtle eps. Plus this one was educational for the kids in that there were several lessons learned about sharing and being greedy.

Next week: Klunk returneth!!! :D

Jester

10-25-2008, 03:49 PM

I haven't seen this week's ep yet (waiting for it to come online), but am curious to know...do the VAs do a better job sounding like little kids? While they did an okay job in past episodes sounding like children, they were horrible in "Fathers and Sons" (most of the time they sounded like their present day selves...hardly any effort to sound little...that made the episode somewhat irritating to me along with the stupid looking buck-teeth look.)

I think so, but I also think they may have been pitched up a skoosh to achieve the desired result.

Scandia

10-25-2008, 03:51 PM

The Toddler Turtles were kawaii!!!

Otherwise, the episode was okay.

Cipher

10-25-2008, 04:00 PM

The Toddler Turtles were kawaii.I see. 残念、日本語が話せる?

blue_angel99

10-25-2008, 05:40 PM

Nice episode. I love seeing turtle tots!!! I never realized how many dudes can't stand them. :o

The only thing I don't like is that besides Don, everyone is acting so nonchalant about getting Splinter back. Leo going to a museum, Raph going to a grudge match and Mike seeing a horror movie instead of trying to recover Splinter....it just seems so out-of character :ohwell:

That toy guy really creeped me out. "My cherished?!" Ex-squeeze me??? Even little Mike noticed his crazed behavior-"He's like in love with it." :lol:

I was kind of disappointed in Serling too. I thought he was so desperate to return home cause he missed Cody but really he just can't stand the turtles and living in the sewer. I guess all the robots in 2105 are just stuck up. :roll:

Machias Banshee

10-25-2008, 07:31 PM

Okay, I must admit that I kinda thought the ep was cute (the drawings on the blog don't give the lil turtles justice), but the whole matter of Splinter being JUST a Don project is getting ridiculous. I would think that Don will eventually turn to the others and say something about it. "He's not just MY dad, you know... you Could help somehow." If I was left in that kind of situation where I had to take care of my parents alone, while my brothers were f*cking off somewhere else, I'd be furious...

I'd say 3 out of 5 stars. Cute at some points, but definitely a sidestory.

Turtleman100

10-25-2008, 07:33 PM

This episode was good. I know the kid we saw playing with his toys was a big part of this episodes and he was. He made toys for a living. I was also thinking this guy is a future Turtle villan. Well I was wrong. Serling was so worrie about messing up the furture. Well he was wrong, he mess up the future and this is how. So first he's a robot from the future yeah so a robot from the future is not that bad right wrong because he has parts in him that weren't made yet. Ok so the turtles toddler, later in the episode fine him and took him home fighting to see who will keep him. That whole time I was thinking ok so the Turtles will remember him when they shouldn't because they meet him in the future. Words that comes from Mikey ( please tell me if I'm wrong) Oh yeah I remeber fight over you as a kid but I forgot about that. Will they forgot about it. I get it now. You know guys there wasn't alot of action this episode and that good. I mean I like action but I also like a story. With a little action.

Tomoshibi Amatsu

10-25-2008, 07:51 PM

Man I can't believe I missed it... :(

Machias Banshee

10-25-2008, 08:05 PM

They Will have it on the 4Kids site soon... ;)

Drtooth

10-25-2008, 08:10 PM

that episode was terrible. why does time travel always equal dinosaurs??

They're uh... still pushing Paleo Patrol toys or something? :thyper:

I really hope that Serling has a new appreciation for the turtles and vice versa. I like Serling (and as the dude said, I too am glad I got the Serling figure), but I really think that Mikey treating him like crap all the time is wearing thinner than tissue paper.

gobo

10-25-2008, 08:16 PM

I decided to sleep in today, and my DVR decided not to record this episode. WTF am I paying for a recorder that refuses to record what I set it for? :x

Coola Yagami

10-25-2008, 08:20 PM

Unfortunately that's the problem of being such serious dark issues in a kids' show. I guess finding Splinter is a Don project cause they can't have all 4 turtles moping and sobbing all season... especially since this was meant to be the season to make up for Fast Forward and maybe.. the last season? Now wants Teenage Mutant Emo Turtles, so let's make em.... not care! yay!

Ninjinister

10-25-2008, 08:58 PM

Two things I noticed, that were truly bizarre:

-Why was the chest where Serling was stashed in the Turtles' room? If Splinter were trying to keep the toy from them, he should have kept the chest in his room.

-After the Turtle Tots retrieved Serling from the chest, Raphael tackled Leonardo and Donatello out of the lair, but a couple of seconds, later, Michelangelo was kneeling in the sewer water, dripping wet, as if he had been knocked in as well, when in reality, he was further back and not even in the scene where Raphael attacked.

Sage Ninja

10-25-2008, 09:50 PM

it sort of bothered me too that the turtles didn't jump at the chance to go gather more of Splinter's bits, and even more so that Serling didn't present it to all the turtles as his decoy to get them out of the lair instead of coming up with petty past times to occupy them. :x Splinter should be top priority over these meaningless things. And actually I was a little dissapointed that Serling was going to quantom leap back home with out even telling them goodbye. :cry: Does he feel such distance from them emotionally that he didn't care what they thought? Or that they would be worried that something terriable happened to him if he suddenly turned up missing? I mean I know the turtles where kind of dicks to him but it was sort of a two way disrespect between them, it wasn't completely one sided on the turtles part.

All that put aside I did enjoy the way Serling went about getting them out of the lair, it was funny.

I did like seeing Splinter again and I agree he looked a bit younger here. But He still had that regal look he has from his new BTTS design. I really missed seeing Splinter and all his wise monalogues, he's always so right when he gives advice. ANd it was just cool to see him being a father to the boys. And I don't care I liked seeing the boys as tots and acting that way, running around fighting over a toy was just so in character for small children. I noticed they all acted more alike when they where younger. I got a real kick out of Mikey running down the halls with a shopping cart with a mountain of toys halloring his heart out. It's exactly what I would have done at his age if I saw an entire store full of toys. Little kid heaven!

Was I the only one supriced thay Mr. Wendell was actually going to hurt those turtles? There where practically babies still and he was going to harm them. I was pretty shocked also that Splinter didn't go ape sh*t on the man for attacking his defenceless little children, actually he seemed pretty forgiving about it. :ohwell:

but I really think that Mikey treating him like crap all the time is wearing thinner than tissue paper.

when did Mikey treat him like crap in this episode?

FlawedCoil82

10-25-2008, 11:32 PM

It wasn't the worst episode out of the series. I believe all the Turtle Titan/Justice Force episodes are worse (along with many of the FF episodes). However it is definitely my least favorite of the BTTS episodes. I am also puzzled why it is only Don breaking his neck to get Splinter. Don and Leo especially should be equally as concerned and obsessed with getting Splinter back. Ever since FF, Leo has just seemed to be less of a leader to them and doesn't seem like the strong authority figure that he used to be, and I miss that. Even in Ninja Tribunal, he was put more in the background, and without much explanation as to why.

Serling is funny in some episodes of FF, but so far I haven't cracked a smile once during these new episodes. In fact, none of these new episodes have impressed me beyond being as good as maybe the best FF episodes. None of them (FF included) have even come close to touching the best episodes of the first 4 seasons. I will even say that the very last episode of TMNT that I was truly impressed with was "Ninja Tribunal" (where they fight the wooden guys on the rooftop before getting captured). Every fight since that episode has done very little for me and I yearn for more scenes like that where battles are well choreagraphed and every turtle gets some highlight moments. Just watching my "Season 2 Part 2" dvds today made me realize how much I miss those episodes.
Jack

Nexxorcist

10-26-2008, 01:01 AM

They're uh... still pushing Paleo Patrol toys or something? :thyper:

Man, you don't know the half of it. lol

Wildcat

10-26-2008, 01:06 AM

I am also puzzled why it is only Don breaking his neck to get Splinter...Ever since FF, Leo has just seemed to be less of a leader to them and doesn't seem like the strong authority figure that he used to be, and I miss that.

I agree 100% on this. The rest of the turtles dont seem too emotionally hurt by the fact that Splinter is gone, regaurdless of the fact that thier trying to save the city from the Purple Dragons and whatnot youd think they would show more emotion over it, especially Leo.

Like you said Leo doesnt seem like the tough leader he used to be which I miss to but its also very out-of-character for him. He was more of a leader in the old toon than he has been recently in FF and BTTS :lol:

As far as the episode goes I actually enjoyed it more than I thought I would. I never liked the fact that Serling came back with them but it was a pretty fun episode, course it was nothing compared to the previous episode with Shredder and Baxter...oh man that was the closest thing to 2k3 awesomeness weve had in a long time.

Only thing that bothered me, and has since it was anounced that they would pick up after FF, is that at the end the turtles had the childhood memory of Serling and the toys, which would have never happend had Serling didnt come back with them...which would have never happend had they never met up with Viral...which would have never happend had they never time-traveled to the future.

WHY DID FAST FORWARD HAVE TO HAPPEN! :cry:

Sage Ninja

10-26-2008, 02:51 AM

it did happen lets try to get past that alright. You know what I just noticed upon rewatching this episode. Mikey actually challenging Raph to a fight over the toy and actually attacking him. O.O When did Mikey become skittish around Raph where he quakes in fear and runs from him? tot Mikey wasn't afraid of him at all!

Buffy

10-26-2008, 03:56 AM

Finally saw it, it was an ok filler episode. Can't wait for next week: Klunk!

Guitar_Raph

10-26-2008, 04:13 AM

Cute episode I agree. Gotta like TMNT as tots.

I was surprised their personalities didn't change much. Toddler Raph was still angst for his age.

Funny part, Toddlet Mikey pushing a shopping cart, loaded with toys. He would make a great contestant on Supermarket Sweep (LOL).

Drtooth

10-26-2008, 07:30 AM

when did Mikey treat him like crap in this episode?

Calling him ugly for one thing. I forget which turtle decided to toss him. Though, in all fairness, most of the turtles treat him like crap from time to time. I really wish that he and Donatello would have formed more of a bond this season.

Anyone notice that the Preteenage Mutant Ninja Turtles had Bunk beds, just like in the 80's cartoon? I forgot all about that until last night.

Jester

10-26-2008, 08:19 AM

Is it sad that I'm only now going to respond to something on the last page? :P

Cypher, you say that this episode show the "predestination view of time travel," and trust me I see it, but it also ret-cons the fact that there is a group of people who take care of anomalies in the time stream, Lord Simultaneous and Renet. If those people and the time scepter exist to fix time incursions, then why haven't they showed up for this. Unless this is all supposed to happen...which is odd since it is totally polluting the time stream.

And now my brain hurts. As much as I love time travel, these paradoxes give me a migraine.

Coola Yagami

10-26-2008, 08:48 AM

True... all this time travel is pretty hokey if you already have characters like Simultaneous and Renet in the show. Hell, where was Savanti in Fast Forward?

Drtooth

10-26-2008, 10:18 AM

Hell, where was Savanti in Fast Forward?

Probably the same place Space Usagi was.... but I'm not going into it.

Cipher

10-26-2008, 11:38 AM

Cypher, you say that this episode show the "predestination view of time travel," and trust me I see it, but it also ret-cons the fact that there is a group of people who take care of anomalies in the time stream, Lord Simultaneous and Renet. If those people and the time scepter exist to fix time incursions, then why haven't they showed up for this. Unless this is all supposed to happen...which is odd since it is totally polluting the time stream.I guess we just have to assume that it's "supposed to happen." O'Neil Tech would never even exist if Don hadn't traveled to the future. Some sort of infinite paradox.

The only explanation as far as Renet and Simultaneous are concerned is that they're a ditz and an asshole respectively (really, those are their character traits), and time will run based on whatever arbitrary whims they have.

Also, it's cool that you spell my username with a "y." Makes it more classy.

Hell, where was Savanti in Fast Forward? Chillin' with Triceraton Shredder in the Land of Missed Opportunities.

Casual Matt

10-26-2008, 12:00 PM

Chillin' with Triceraton Shredder in the Land of Missed Opportunities.

That or dead.

Probably dead.

Jester

10-26-2008, 12:07 PM

Also, it's cool that you spell my username with a "y." Makes it more classy.

Oopps...:D I guess I assumed it was a Y 'cause you're such a classy guy. ;)

Hey, that rhymed. Poet and didn't know it.

Leonardo15

10-26-2008, 12:27 PM

So I'm not the only one seeing stuff 'burrowed' from 1986-1996 TMNT cartoon? I also noticed the evil toys. Oh yeah, the battery joke was used too, shut off the evil toy. I forgot which episode that was from, but it was about the alien kid dangerous toy that was overheating that could destroy the earth, and April solved the problem by taking out the battery.

The Turtle tots never bothered me, I like seeing episodes with them in it.

Did someone say Klunk will be shown in the next episode? Really? What does he look like in color?

Cure

10-26-2008, 12:43 PM

Did someone say Klunk will be shown in the next episode? Really? What does he look like in color?

Uh...orange.

Raph's Girl

10-26-2008, 12:44 PM

True... all this time travel is pretty hokey if you already have characters like Simultaneous and Renet in the show. Hell, where was Savanti in Fast Forward?

Which Savanti?? In the comics after the whole dinosaur incident he was frozen in time till he woke up in feudal Japan (they could have used the Kakamura period exhibit for Leo to find out about Savanti), the turtles defeated him of course and he was sent BACK to the Cretacious, somehow tho he returned and was defeated by his own ego along with the turtles and C.O.Wboys of Moo Mesa (who we actually saw in Fast Forward).

Now, Im still waiting for Romero's wife to show up!! Where's Savanti Juliet darnit?! I wanna see Leo get his arse handed to him by Da Vinci! :P "You I would have discected first..." :lol:

Aneras713

10-26-2008, 12:47 PM

Anyone notice that the Preteenage Mutant Ninja Turtles had Bunk beds, just like in the 80's cartoon? I forgot all about that until last night.

They had those back in the original lair, I saw them in episode 1, and when they have flashbacks from their childhood.

Raph's Girl

10-26-2008, 12:55 PM

What does he look like in color?

This is Klunk from season 4 (the last time he was seen):

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/Dierna/Klunk/ScionKlunk3.jpg

maryshine

10-26-2008, 01:12 PM

Uh...orange.

Kluck is back and no Karia? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad the cat was back, I just wish Karia was back too. I think we won't see her again. :(

Jester

10-26-2008, 01:21 PM

Did someone say Klunk will be shown in the next episode? Really? What does he look like in color?

Like this:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/Klunk.jpg

Thank you 4kids.tv and print screen. :P

Ninjinister

10-26-2008, 01:27 PM

Thanks Jest! I still am unable to see the preview, so I appreciate the screencap.

Jester

10-26-2008, 01:40 PM

Yeah, I was trying to remedy that too, but it's still a no go. :(

BAXTER STOCKMAN 19

10-26-2008, 02:00 PM

i didnt see the episode.. Why it is not on youtube yet???

Ninjinister

10-26-2008, 09:55 PM

Or... you could have patience and watch it LEGALLY when 4Kids uploads it.

Spitfire

10-26-2008, 10:49 PM

I didn't like it but I didn't hate it. Some parts were bad but at least the turtles weren't half as annoying as they were in "Fathers and Sons".

I felt Serling needed his own episode I just wish they didn't use it to give people more of a reason to hate his character. The only reason sitting through wasn't unbearable was because of Serling. I see the purpose for episodes like this the little tykes need episodes to like too.

Blade Raider

10-26-2008, 11:04 PM

Or... you could have patience and watch it LEGALLY when 4Kids uploads it.

Best defense againist that statement is "their player sucks". I'm sure most will agree with me when I say that it's hard to enjoy any of their videoes when it starts buffering every 5 seconds. That is assuming it plays at all.

Tomoshibi Amatsu

10-26-2008, 11:23 PM

I just saw the episode finally, and there's one thing I kept thinking throughout it. Why did Serling even bother? He could have just found an isolated place to power down for a hundred years. You know like that episode of futurama where Bender got stuck back in the 1940s?? I mean it's not like Serling couldn't have done that. It would have been far easier than what he went through.

and am I the only one who really doesn't mind the turtle tots and somewhat even likes them?

Mandi-chan

10-27-2008, 04:04 AM

Or... you could have patience and watch it LEGALLY when 4Kids uploads it.

Why does it matter where you watch it, either way it's online and it's free!

I hate going to the 4Kids website to be honest. It's full of so much annoying crap, and half the time the videos don't work so I have no choice but to look them up on youtube.

As long as the eps are on the 4kids site for free viewings...then I don't see the problem watching them on a different site for free too.

Kendamu

10-27-2008, 04:25 AM

I'm not a fan of Serling, but if it means seeing Splinter again I'll sit through it.

BubblyShell22

10-27-2008, 07:48 AM

I really enjoyed this episode. While I'm not a fan of Serling, I did enjoy the lesson he learned about the Turtles not being so bad after all. I also enjoyed seeing the Turtle Tots and Splinter again. It was nice seeing Splinter kick some butt. The toy guy was nuts, and I hope he doesn't reveal their identity. Overall, it was a great episode. I also don't mind the Turtles with buck teeth, because I had buck teeth for the longest time. At least the Turtles grew out of theirs quickly. I had mine until about sophomore year of high school after I got braces in sixth grade. Man, did that suck.

Next week: Klunk is back! Whoo Hoo! However, I do have a problem with that picture, because he doesn't have white in him like he used to. That's going to take some time to adjust to. Still, I can't wait to see him.

Drtooth

10-27-2008, 07:56 AM

So I'm not the only one seeing stuff 'burrowed' from 1986-1996 TMNT cartoon? I also noticed the evil toys. Oh yeah, the battery joke was used too, shut off the evil toy. I forgot which episode that was from, but it was about the alien kid dangerous toy that was overheating that could destroy the earth, and April solved the problem by taking out the battery.

Invasion of the Turtle Snatchers... specifically referring to the alien kid's toy that was left on Earth....

odupianist

10-27-2008, 08:05 AM

This episode wasn't too bad. Glad to see Splinter get in the action, although not as much as I would have liked. A few good laughs. Not my favorite, but it wasn't horrible.

Ninjinister

10-27-2008, 09:09 AM

Why does it matter where you watch it, either way it's online and it's free!

I hate going to the 4Kids website to be honest. It's full of so much annoying crap, and half the time the videos don't work so I have no choice but to look them up on youtube.

As long as the eps are on the 4kids site for free viewings...then I don't see the problem watching them on a different site for free too.

Because it's the law.

Shred Head

10-27-2008, 09:32 AM

and am I the only one who really doesn't mind the turtle tots and somewhat even likes them?

Yeah I like them I prefer the non bucktoothed versions myself though. My Favorite episode with them is when they try to teach little Casey how to fight.

Cipher

10-27-2008, 09:33 AM

Because it's the law.Well, more specifically, it's because the 4Kids website version includes some commercials. Advertisements are what fund television shows. When they put shows up on their site, the idea is that they'll still make some money for their sponsors because people will see the ads. When you watch on Youtube, there is zero chance of their sponsors making money because the viewers aren't seeing the ads. Therein, it's an incredibly round about way of stealing.

That's the logic, anyway.

Anarky

10-27-2008, 10:17 AM

Four pages later, this appears! (http://independentcomicssite.net/200810271106/Review/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-76-the-incredible-shrinking-serling.html) Be shocked, be amazed and most of all, read one of the best reviews of the TMNT-fanscape. :D

Ninjinister

10-27-2008, 10:39 AM

Drtooth

10-27-2008, 11:36 AM

Well, more specifically, it's because the 4Kids website version includes some commercials. Advertisements are what fund television shows. When they put shows up on their site, the idea is that they'll still make some money for their sponsors because people will see the ads. When you watch on Youtube, there is zero chance of their sponsors making money because the viewers aren't seeing the ads. Therein, it's an incredibly round about way of stealing.

That's the logic, anyway.

Well more logically speaking, the 4Kids video play IS legally sanctioned by all companies. I mean, even if you watch it on TV or something you can easilly ignore the commercials (and chances are you may not buy most of those products anyway). The YT version is something someone copied from a DVR...

Though, i really wanna see more company legal video sites do sort of an advertisement ticker at the bottom of the screen, separate from the video itself.

Scrabblemouse

10-27-2008, 12:04 PM

I didn't so much hate the episode, as much as I just felt like it really didn't do much.

I agree. The thing that really struck me was that I thought Serling was the best thing in this episode. I feel that his dry sarcasm is filling the void that Raph and Mikey have vacated lately. I like the banter between these two and it's been seriously lacking this season.

Don's back to normal. Not sure if that deserves a 'hurrah' or not due to the fact that when he's not being depressed/mutated/tormented/kidnapped etc, he has a tendency to get phased into the background.

Just noticed Splinter has a goatee. Obviously being in the future for a year has levelled up his cool-rating :D

P.S - First episode where the eyes didn't bug me! I think this is because it looks correct on Turtle Tots. Still wish the adult versions would go back to the pupil-less style...

Ninjafromanotherseries

10-27-2008, 01:39 PM

Funny episode. These humor episodes are good to have, the first five episodes of the season were action packed so it was time for a humor episode but too bad it is shorth season so these too wacky episode take time from better stories and it is disturbing espesially if this is the last season.

Turtle tots are annoying but it is good see that they have had some adventures before episode 1. I have always hated the idea that they live peaceful life first fifteen years of their life and then BAM suddenly mousers attack to their lair and starting from that point they go every other week into another dimension or into the space fight against all sort of freaks so it is good see that they had some weird events before episode 1 events.

Buslady

10-27-2008, 02:13 PM

Guitar_Raph

10-27-2008, 02:44 PM

Like this:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/Klunk.jpg

Cute kitten Mikey had for a pet. Wonder why he named it Klunk?

There are two other television shows that used the term, Klunk.

DASTARDLY & MUTTLEY IN THEIR FLYING MACHINES: The inventor who talks funny using sound effects is named Klunk (voiced by Don Messick).

THE (NEW) TREASURE HUNT: Game show where if the women picked the wrong box & made the wrong choice, she would end up with a Klunk! A gag prize of sorts.

gobo

10-27-2008, 03:19 PM

I got tired of waiting for 4kids to up this ep, so I went to YouTube. You snooze, you lose, 4kids. :P I thought this episode was much better than I feared. It might not have been the awesomest or anything, but it was enjoyable none-the-less. I, personally, would have preferred they had titled this one "The Incredible Shrunken Serling" though. That would have been just as good a kick-back to the classic 'toon as the way they worded it, which was very misleading.

Casual Matt

10-27-2008, 03:20 PM

BTTS is insulting to everything TMNT.

Are you basing your opinion of the entire series on one episode, or have you not seen the other episodes?

gobo

10-27-2008, 03:31 PM

More likely basing her opinion on the fact that BttS is still a pale comparison to the first four seasons of 2K3... Seriously, so what if April talked about Casey coming home with someone else's blood on him or Hun threatened to cut off April's finger. Shock value is a poor substitute for the finesse the show used to have. But, it's the best we'll get with an economy in the crapper and a show getting up in years, so she'll just have to learn to count her blessings.

Tomoshibi Amatsu

10-27-2008, 03:43 PM

Yeah I like them I prefer the non bucktoothed versions myself though. My Favorite episode with them is when they try to teach little Casey how to fight.

I like that episode too. Though I also liked the one from season 5 as well. I just liked that sense of a backstory.

VaughnMichael

10-27-2008, 04:30 PM

I dont know why I bothered, this is a pretty crappy episode.
The young turtles look stupid, anime eyes and those stupid teeth!
Totally disenchanted with the cartoon. My son agrees.
What are they thinking? It's never been so juvenile, what happened to the smart writing?
I can deal with the looks as long as they have good stories, this was crap.
Screw this, TMNT is dying as long as this garbage is aired.

Taking this junk off the TIVO, ain't worth the space on the hdd.

BTTS is insulting to everything TMNT.
I agree with the the baby turtle comment, but people wonder why the shows been cancled.:roll:
They've also stopped making episodes based on comics so it seems to me that's where most of the complaints are coming from, as you know most of the seasons people seem to enjoy have a majority of episodes that have stories that had been written years ago and had plenty of time to age and be changed for tv.

ZariusTwo

10-27-2008, 05:57 PM

What are they thinking? It's never been so juvenile, what happened to the smart writing?

You act like the show's never been like this in the past. It has. There was so much filler in seasons two and three, you could fit them in your teeth, all of 'em likewise had the same kind of dry, dull humour that, frankly, the show always SUCKED at.

MrPliggins

10-27-2008, 06:50 PM

I dunno, I really enjoyed the first half of the episode, and it went downhill when Toyman showed up. I didn't mind the episode as a whole, though, but I think it was utterly pointless as far as moving the story along.

Ninjinister

10-27-2008, 08:06 PM

Y'know... some of us DID like the episode. The only part I didn't like is they brought back the unnecessary buckteeth on the Turtle Tots. Everything else, I thought was fun filler.

VaughnMichael

10-27-2008, 08:49 PM

Y'know... some of us DID like the episode. The only part I didn't like is they brought back the unnecessary buckteeth on the Turtle Tots. Everything else, I thought was fun filler.
That's what makes me dislike the Tots even more is those damn teeth, not to mention all they do is whine and bicker. I thought out of all the turtle tots episodes this was one of the better ones, Fathers & sons is by far the worst in my book.

Buslady

10-27-2008, 09:34 PM

Are you basing your opinion of the entire series on one episode, or have you not seen the other episodes?

I've seen everything aired so far. Not impressed.

that's fine others enjoyed it, good for them. this is just my opinion of btts so far.
I'd rather read V4!

the "filler" eps in the 2k3 series were even fun to watch. this was just really bad writing. the toy guy is a rip off of Al in Toy Story 2 being a collector.

Leonardo Mystic

10-27-2008, 09:57 PM

I've seen everything aired so far. Not impressed.

This is seriously getting so old really fast....

Look, if some of you people know how to make this cartoon and think you can do a better job than 4Kids, by all means, go right ahead. Find/build your own studio, hire writers, artists, and animators Dong Woo and let's see what you come up with. I wish you good luck on the endeavor as well.

I actually liked this episode for what its intentions were; cute and entertaining. It was pure brain candy; sugar side-affects may occur. This was a nice little break from all the action.

I like this season so far as well. It's better than Fast Forward, but I think anything would have been better. Just think what we could have ended up with instead. There are far worst possibilities and we all read about those ideas.

Maybe I've just learned to appreciate what I have instead of always pining for the greener grass on the other side. You'll never be satisfied that way.

gobo

10-27-2008, 10:16 PM

Preach it, brother!

Ninjinister

10-27-2008, 10:17 PM

Well, on one hand, Mystic, people are entitled to their opinions. That's what makes the world great. If we all thought alike, everything would be dull, and we wouldn't have anything enjoyable we have now.

On the other hand, there has never been an episode of TMNT that I've actually hated - just ones I've liked less than others. With the exception of this episode teetering a bit off the path, I feel the episodes have been getting progressively better - balancing everything out a bit better and so forth - and I just keep seeing people indicating that they think the series is getting progressively worse? It's, of course, not up to mid-2K3 level, but I think we were spoiled by all of that. It's still the best damn kid's show on TV right now. It always was. Even Fast Forward, which a lot of people despised (although the later episodes were much better), was better than a majority of the drivel that passes for children's programming these days.

Preach it, brother!

Were you addressing Mystic? 'Cause she's a she.

Sage Ninja

10-27-2008, 10:30 PM

This is seriously getting so old really fast....

Look, if some of you people know how to make this cartoon and think you can do a better job than 4Kids, by all means, go right ahead. Find/build your own studio, hire writers, artists, and animators Dong Woo and let's see what you come up with. I wish you good luck on the endeavor as well.

I actually liked this episode for what its intentions were; cute and entertaining. It was pure brain candy; sugar side-affects may occur. This was a nice little break from all the action.

I like this season so far as well. It's better than Fast Forward, but I think anything would have been better. Just think what we could have ended up with instead. There are far worst possibilities and we all read about those ideas.

Maybe I've just learned to appreciate what I have instead of always pining for the greener grass on the other side. You'll never be satisfied that way.

I completely agree with this thank you, these are my feelings exactly. And I know every one is entitles to their own opinion but it seems like people are making snap judgments before every thing unfolds. :(

Jester

10-27-2008, 10:35 PM

Didn't care for this episode. I know BttS can do better. It was a good showing for Serling, though.

gobo

10-27-2008, 10:58 PM

Were you addressing Mystic? 'Cause she's a she.
Not until you pointed it out! :evil: *kills the messenger*

Aska_Badoura

10-27-2008, 11:27 PM

That was... one of the most bizarre eps I've seen in awhile. :lol: I think I'll leave it at that.

What's worse than the 'shell' comments? Hearing them from a toddler. :ohwell:

I think part of the reason the other guys aren't helping retrieve Splinter, is they feel a bit out of their league. Tech is not their thing, and finding data bits is techy like woah. And it could be that Don moves around faster when he's alone, since he doesn't have to explain to the others what he's doing. I mean... I have family members that would much sooner do something themselves, then have to explain to me how I can help. "By the time you understand, I'd have finished." Heh.

And I think the writing team is being rather too hard on Serling; or maybe he's just programmed to complain even when he's perfectly happy. ;) He's a lot more tolerant than he lets on... he helped raise a baby to young adulthood, after all. :P I find myself unconvinced by his protests, always have... He misses Cody, more than they're driving him nuts, I think.

VaughnMichael

10-28-2008, 12:38 AM

What's worse than the 'shell' comments? Hearing them from a toddler. :ohwell:
You know I forgot about that, that botherd me also.

BubblyShell22

10-28-2008, 07:28 AM

Ninjinister

10-28-2008, 08:13 AM

Yeah, I was weirded out by that, too. I couldn't believe a toddler semi-swore. Then again, it's pretty common in this day and age. My mom's told me stories about the kids she works with in school, and some of them are quite shocking.

No kidding. My mother works at a school, and just the other day she told me a kindergartner told her to f*** off. :roll:

maryshine

10-28-2008, 11:43 AM

I think Sterling just needs some robot company. Hmm...how about Proffessor Honeycutt comes back to earth for a visit! I could just imagine a converstation between those two:

Sterling: I cannot stand hiding down in these bleck surrondings!
HoneyCutt: You think that's bad?? Dude, I've changed to a robot, chased by armies from two worlds, and now I'm trapped in this tiny device with what memory is left!

Okay, so Honeycutt won't say it like that, but you know what I mean

Raph's Girl

10-28-2008, 01:10 PM

Okay, so Honeycutt won't say it like that, but you know what I mean

I'd love for Prof Honeycutt to meet Serling! It would be a laugh riot watching em together. "Oh dear!" "Oh my!"

Mandi-chan

10-28-2008, 05:23 PM

Because it's the law

Well, more specifically, it's because the 4Kids website version includes some commercials. Advertisements are what fund television shows. When they put shows up on their site, the idea is that they'll still make some money for their sponsors because people will see the ads. When you watch on Youtube, there is zero chance of their sponsors making money because the viewers aren't seeing the ads. Therein, it's an incredibly round about way of stealing.

That's the logic, anyway.

Oh, okay.

I didn't take into consideration the fact that the 4Kids site throws ads into the eps too (the same annoying cereal commercials over and over and over and over again...ugh), whereas YT vids don't. Now I understand why it's wrong to watch on youtube, thanks for clearing that up!

Hero

10-28-2008, 07:14 PM

I wonder if Honeycutt is somehow involved with how the Servotrons are invented, and if the Servotrons are somehow as sentient as Honeycutt/Fugitoid is. Serling certainly acts sentient.

===HERO

Dan

10-29-2008, 03:04 AM

Why would Serling hide the time window? It's not like the Turtles don't want him to go home.

Avatar Yuffie

10-29-2008, 09:39 AM

Upon watching the first scene: "Who are you and what have you done to Serling?" sort of reaction. Surprised the Turtles didn't caught on his OOC.

"My cherish"? ROFLOL.

The whole piano keys on the floor in the Toy Store screams "Big". :/

It's interesting seeing the Turtle Tots fighting each other over a "new toy". I find myself smiling with the running gag of them claiming ownership.

Well, slightly better than Father and Sons, I admit... but the old guy's "evil toys with weapons" thing is kind of lame, considering well, what kind of kid (or parent who has the money) would want em? :o

Sage Ninja

10-29-2008, 10:43 AM

I just reawtched this and I noticed something that I missed before. When the turtle tots find Serling in the serwer and they dicide to take him home Leonardo starts leaping like a frog in the water. LOL It was so cute! It's nice to see that old serious Leo was just as playful and rambunctious as the others when he was little.

One question though. With the turtles still being so young, why on earth would Splinter allow them out of his sight to play out side the lair? The turtles where what two or three? My mom never let me outside the house in the backyard when I was that age. O.o

Scrabblemouse

10-29-2008, 11:44 AM

One question though. With the turtles still being so young, why on earth would Splinter allow them out of his sight to play out side the lair? The turtles where what two or three? My mom never let me outside the house in the backyard when I was that age. O.o

Good point...I don't know, maybe All My Sons was on or something and Splinter got distracted...? :D Or maybe he was there...hiding in the shadows all ninja-like and protective? :lol:

(fyi: I totally just guessed the name of a soap opera, was I right? I'm a Brit and all we have is Eastenders and Corrie...and that one about a farm or something...)

gobo

10-29-2008, 11:57 AM

Even better, it's a perfect parody title for a fictitious soap opera in the TMNT universe, as it is one part 'My Three Sons', one part 'Splinter has more than three, so he wouldn't be interested in that', and another part 'All My Children'.

Drtooth

10-29-2008, 12:18 PM

Why would Serling hide the time window? It's not like the Turtles don't want him to go home.

... it took how many pages for someone to think of that?

gobo

10-29-2008, 12:36 PM

Yeah, that was pretty juvenile. I didn't much care for the way the last Serling-esque robot was defeated either. But, at least it wasn't April who unplugged the enemy this time. :roll: But, if you want some more nits to pick, why was Serling able to go through this time window? He only worked on the 'organics-only until Viral modifies it last-second' version. And, why did he get Shrunk just once by a machine that should have nothing to do with 'manipulating space instead of time'? That's awfully convenient, isn't it?

All logic aside, it was still enjoyable (especially since we got to see Splinter in action again).

silverdragon

10-29-2008, 12:51 PM

Why would Serling hide the time window? It's not like the Turtles don't want him to go home.

Maybe he was scared that they would try and 'help'. With Don away in cyberspace, I'm not sure I would want any of the remaining turtles near a highly breakable and delicate device!

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

10-29-2008, 05:17 PM

gobo

10-29-2008, 05:21 PM

'Turtle tots' sounds like some weird kind of snack food... :P

VaughnMichael

10-29-2008, 09:06 PM

'Turtle tots' sounds like some weird kind of snack food... :P
Yes, a shame it isn't.:P

Raphael_

10-29-2008, 09:38 PM

Yes, a shame it isn't.:P

Green tater tots, go get some green food coloring and make them yourself. Hell, you can give them a red ketchup bandana, om nom nom.

Jester

10-29-2008, 09:43 PM

Hey, I'm suprised they aren't part of the 25th Anniversary shell-ebration. :D

VaughnMichael

10-29-2008, 09:54 PM

Green tater tots, go get some green food coloring and make them yourself. Hell, you can give them a red ketchup bandana, om nom nom.
I was talking about a monster or that demon from fathers and sons eating the turtle tots, that would have been the best episode for me.:lol:

raphael88

10-30-2008, 06:34 AM

Jester

10-30-2008, 06:41 AM

Yes, because the actors just come up with the scripts off the top of their heads...

Man, I sound like Zarius....

Sorry, I'm sure you meant "writers".

Casual Matt

10-30-2008, 07:33 AM

shredder doesn't remember the events happened on fast forwards' episode 'Timing Is Everything', because then 'shredder strikes back' episode's couldn't happen.

How do you figure. I don't see any problem.

If anything, maybe seeing the Turtles stronger in the future further motivated him to destroy them.

Cipher

10-30-2008, 10:26 AM

there is one think that bothers me. the turtles remember the events happened in this episode after serling's return, but shredder doesn't remember the events happened on fast forwards' episode 'Timing Is Everything', because then 'shredder strikes back' episode's couldn't happen. I think that's a big mistake by tmnt actors.Just because Shredder didn't burst in and shout "Hey, remember after I fell off the roof and you had those glowing future swords?!" to Lenoard during The Shredder Strikes Back, doesn't mean it didn't happen. In fact, we have to assume it did, since the series has been shown to follow a predistination view of time travel again and again.

As Matt said, perhaps Shredder thought, "Not only did the Turtles drop me off a roof, but they also pulled me into a strange dimension and possess glowing weapons. I should really try to kill them now." Being an Utrom, he'd seen stranger stuff, and at this point, Shredder knew almost nothing about the Turtles anyway.

Scrabblemouse

10-30-2008, 11:35 AM

NameGoesHere1066

10-30-2008, 12:11 PM

it was an alright episode.

raphael88

10-30-2008, 05:19 PM

Yes, because the actors just come up with the scripts off the top of their heads...

Man, I sound like Zarius....

Sorry, I'm sure you meant "writers".

yes of course i meant writers :lol:

raphael88

10-30-2008, 05:27 PM

Just because Shredder didn't burst in and shout "Hey, remember after I fell off the roof and you had those glowing future swords?!" to Lenoard during The Shredder Strikes Back, doesn't mean it didn't happen. In fact, we have to assume it did, since the series has been shown to follow a predistination view of time travel again and again.

As Matt said, perhaps Shredder thought, "Not only did the Turtles drop me off a roof, but they also pulled me into a strange dimension and possess glowing weapons. I should really try to kill them now." Being an Utrom, he'd seen stranger stuff, and at this point, Shredder knew almost nothing about the Turtles anyway.

What are you talking about? At 'shredders time back' the turtles thought the shredder was destroyed, and the shredder knew that. This is the point. If 'timing is everything' happened then the shredder would thought that the turtles know he is not dead. Do you understand what i mean?