CRT/tanaka...Riiight.

[Jester]

So, the official site (http://www.ninjaturtles.com) has a update on the main page that brings you to this:
http://www.ninjaturtles.com/html/crt.html
which has information on the 25th anniversary Shell-ebration.

Watching the promotional video, I am scared....very scared. I hate to sound like a naysayer, but come on. A few of my buddies and I could have probably have made an equally good promo.

Am I alone in my fears?

[CyberCubed]

The clips on the site never work, can someone youtube it?

[Jester]

It's a quick time video, and not on 4kids.

[CyberCubed]

Ok it worked, and when the girl with Leo's bandana turned around and smiled at the camera it scared the **** out of me. What the hell...

Creepy. The whole thing was hilariously bad, any average person could have made something like this and actually done it better.

Now I understand why people are worried about the 25th anniversary.

[VaughnMichael]

o Jester your not, that was f3cking retarded and emberassing to watch.
When Raphael says get a grip in the old toon theme song, I thought to myself yeah some one *cough* Gary*cough*Peter* needs to get a grip with friggin reality.:roll:
Oh not to mention that plug of those wonderful toys used in the video that Playmates will be re-releasing for like the 30th time now.

[Ninjinister]

I didn't see the video yet, but exactly what service are these ass monkeys providing? It looks to me as if they're just hired on to expand the Anniversary website... why did we need to know about that, exactly?

[Jester]

*shrugs* But someone needs to expand the 25th anniversary page, it's ONE PAGE! Seriously, all it has is the count down and the contest.

[VaughnMichael]

I didn't see the video yet, but exactly what service are these ass monkeys providing? It looks to me as if they're just hired on to expand the Anniversary website... why did we need to know about that, exactly?
to p1ss the fans off more at what blind out of touch idiots these people behind the turtles are?
“Our decision to bring CRT/tanaka’ on board for the Shell-ebration was motivated by their expertise and clear knowledge of and enthusiasm for the Turtles,” said Gary Richardson, CEO, Mirage Studios. “CRT/tanaka made a powerful impression with their comic-book inspired proposal and Turtles-inspired video (see below). They brought a great vision, a strong team and a love for all things Turtles to the table.”
Seriously if there wasn't ever more of a reason to kick Gary to the curb before.
“Taking the Turtles on the road in 2009 is a key element of our campaign and something our fans have been clamoring for,” added Richardson.
Seriously, wtf no just no not a single one of us has asked for that, what we want is better quality products! I don't know what fans this guy is listening to but I could give less about some turtlevan driving around the country. I seriously want to punch this man right in the crotch!
“To execute the mobile tour in true Turtles fashion, we knew we needed a partner that would bring energy, creativity, and a spirit that embodied TMNT, and we found that partner in a Cow. From a buzz building, fan engagement perspective, Kicking Cow has a proven track record of successful tour execution. We look forward to their next big ‘road show,” this one starring the Turtles.”
Oh, and the fanboard idea wouldn't have done this, you know I'm seriously starting to get p1ssed off just like Rose and I've had enough of the Middle finger being tossed in the faces of the fans who want to help make this thing right.
Why is it the people at the top are always the ones the screw sh1t up and never understand their own product, it really makes me angry.

[Jester]

Ok, I've gotta:
The 25th year of TMNT will provide fans with radical, new multi-experiential opportunities to experience and celebrate this iconic brand.
Multi-experiential...experience... Who wrote this!? :roll:

[Ninjinister]

Ok, I've gotta:

Multi-experiential...experience... Who wrote this!? :roll:

Sarah Palin!?

[VaughnMichael]

Sarah Palin!?
*kicks you*

[Archon_Turtle]

LOL!

Look at their client list.

AeroGrow International

All-Clad Metalcrafters

Amadeus North America

American Physical Therapy Association

AMERIGROUP Corporation

Atkins Nutritionals

Better Business Bureau

Bon Secours Health Systems

Capital One

CB Fleet

Charles Schwab & Co.

Chick-fil-A Kyle Petty Charity Ride

Council for Responsible Nutrition

De’Longhi

Discovery Channel Stores
Girl Scouts of the USA

HoMedics

ITT Night Vision

Longwood University

MAGIC International

Owens & Minor, Inc.

Performance Food Group

Philip Morris USA

Schering-Plough

Sprint

SunTrust Mortgage

Target Stores

VHA Inc.

Wachovia Securities

Wines from Rioja

They've never done anything anywhere close to an animated property or dealing with kids...except for the Girl Scouts...and Philip Morris ;-)

[Mindy]

Okay. Uh. Yeah.

Spit, you so need to challenge this video. ;)

[Roseangelo]

Oh, and the fanboard idea wouldn't have done this, you know I'm seriously starting to get p1ssed off just like Rose and I've had enough of the Middle finger being tossed in the faces of the fans who want to help make this thing right.
Why is it the people at the top are always the ones the screw sh1t up and never understand their own product, it really makes me angry.

I really don't understand what's even keeping you (or anyone else, really) from crossing the line and "joining" me.

Rob at Peppercom emailed the press release to me this morning and I had to use every ounce of willpower to not send a rude email in reply.

[Raphael_]

This is a bunch of people acting like idiots.

This embarasses me as a fan of this franchise.

[Archon_Turtle]

I really don't understand what's even keeping you (or anyone else, really) from crossing the line and "joining" me.


Because your dark powers are intimidating.

[Vegita-San]

So, the official site (http://www.ninjaturtles.com) has a update on the main page that brings you to this:
http://www.ninjaturtles.com/html/crt.html
which has information on the 25th anniversary Shell-ebration.

Watching the promotional video, I am scared....very scared. I hate to sound like a naysayer, but come on. A few of my buddies and I could have probably have made an equally good promo.

Am I alone in my fears?

Is the BBB even considered a client?

I have yet to see this video, but it all just confirms from the reviews that Peter may still have the creative talent to bring about good animated properties.... But as far as business goes, he and gary need to not only get with the times, but also hire someone who actually gives a shoot...

Turtles has to be one of the top ten worst mis managed properties in history...

[Lil G]

yo the page is up! go to http://tmnt25.crtti.com/ and then u see the page! look at those donatello nike sneakers!

[Buslady]

I'm downloading QT right now to see this but do I want to see this mess?

I'm becoming pretty tired of alla this crap they're putting out, it's not what the fans are clamoring for.

Road trip? no. get real.

I may drop out of the fandom but I will never ever ever stop being a Raph fan. I don't have to like the crap they put out but nothing's to stop me from being the fan.

I'm starting to agree with Rose. This is ridiculous.

[Raphael_]

lol @ publishing unfinished pages. This is so amateurish.

[Raphael_]

Ok, I've gotta:

Multi-experiential...experience... Who wrote this!? :roll:

I'm starting to think this was done in the 2000-era buzzword frenzy.

[Cipher]

I have yet to see this video, but it all just confirms from the reviews that Peter may still have the creative talent to bring about good animated properties.... But as far as business goes, he and gary need to not only get with the times, but also hire someone who actually gives a shoot... I agree. I'm not harboring as much Teenage Mutant Ninja Anger as say, Rose seems to be, because I've really enjoyed the creative offerings while Laird's been in charge. What's absolutely infuriating however, is how terrible at promotion and management Laird and Richardson seem to be.

Since the Turtles came back in 2002:
Creative direction - Good
Management - Abysmal, and the proof is in the pudding.

Sarah Palin!?That was awesome.

[gobo]

Sarah Palin!?
Why do I keep seeing that name everywhere? Who is that? I don't care enough to look it up.
I really don't understand what's even keeping you (or anyone else, really) from crossing the line and "joining" me.
Joining you in what?

[Roseangelo]

I agree. I'm not harboring as much Teenage Mutant Ninja Anger as say, Rose seems to be, because I've really enjoyed the creative offerings while Laird's been in charge.

While I have my miffs with certain creative directions, the main focus of my frustration is...

What's absolutely infuriating however, is how terrible at promotion and management Laird and Richardson seem to be.

Exactly that (well, that would be the short version). And as I don't believe there can be any hope creatively as long as management remains unchanged, I really can't support any part of it.

Joining you in what?

Seeing the truth about where the TMNT are headed and why they're headed down the toilet instead of blindly supporting everyone/everything because of some sort of loyalty that Mirage certainly hasn't earned.

[Machias Banshee]

Hm... I couldn't play the video on the site (even though I KNOW my Quicktime works), so I went onto youtube and found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Frw0tFVWI

If this is that exact video... I TOTALLY like it - as a fan film.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d172/Machias_Banshee/CreepyPitch.jpg

If this is an official pitch... I'd fire the people. Hell, my senior film about a frog running for president looked better than this....

[Archon_Turtle]

Hm... I couldn't play the video on the site (even though I KNOW my Quicktime works), so I went onto youtube and found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Frw0tFVWI

If this is that exact video... I TOTALLY like it - as a fan film.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d172/Machias_Banshee/CreepyPitch.jpg

If this is an official pitch... I'd fire the people. Hell, my senior film about a frog running for president looked better than this....

Gee Whiz...someone has posted a rather snarky comment on that youtube page...I wonder who it was :tangel:

[gobo]

Seeing the truth about where the TMNT are headed and why they're headed down the toilet instead of blindly supporting everyone/everything because of some sort of loyalty that Mirage certainly hasn't earned.
So, you just want company in being crabby? Sorry, but life's too short to hold onto bitterness. If you were suggesting something more proactive, I might be game. But, keep in mind that I don't believe in violence. ;)

[Buslady]

OMG this is insulting!

if it were a fan film it's cute but THIS PIECE OF CRAP IS A PITCH!?

It's the most unprofessional piece of garbage ever. And yes I could probably make a better one using my laptop's camera!

Hye Archon...go reload the youtube page :P

[Roseangelo]

So, you just want company in being crabby?

No, but the persistent butt kissing is more hurtful than helpful in the big picture.

If you were suggesting something more proactive, I might be game. But, keep in mind that I don't believe in violence. ;)

That's just the thing. There's nothing proactive that can be suggested. I've questioned many minds on this topic, and they're all unanimous in saying any effort is futile.

And for the record, I hold no bitterness. I am at the point where I find this all just extremely humorous and amusing.

[Ninjinister]

Um... everyone's bitching about a Road Trip? I expected one. In fact, I would have been surprised if there wasn't one. Sure, it's nothing I'm interested in, but it just seems like the thing to do.

[Anarky]

That is totally visionary. This is the only logical step forward in the history of the TMNT! It must be! It is phenomenal!

[Jester]

I really hate to be doom and gloom, it is contrary to the title "Jester" but man, we are getting hosed!!!

In fact as I was typing this response a clip came to mind....so I'll make it and be right back.

Ok here it is:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/th_TMNTsMismanagement.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/?action=view&current=TMNTsMismanagement.flv)
Enjoy!

[Ninjinister]

That is totally visionary. This is the only logical step forward in the history of the TMNT! It must be! It is phenomenal!

I ought to poke you with a sharp stick.

[Archon_Turtle]

Why do I keep seeing that name everywhere? Who is that? I don't care enough to look it up.


I really hope this is one of your infamous difficult to tell when you're being sarcastic moments...but just in case...she is the republican candidate for the Vice President of the United States of America...you DO live here right? :-P

[gobo]

I really hope this is one of your infamous difficult to tell when you're being sarcastic moments...but just in case...she is the republican candidate for the Vice President of the United States of America...you DO live here right? :-P
Oh... Yeah, I live in America. I just don't pay attention to politics (and especially politicians).
zyG8DkCFLlc
Spot on, Jester...

[Buslady]

well done jester.
:D

[Jester]

Spot on, Jester...
well done jester. :D

Thanks Gobo and Buslady. :D

Youtube Version...it's the same, only I can actually post the video and not just a picture link to it...:P
zyG8DkCFLlc

EDIT: Ok, it's up now. :D

[VaughnMichael]

Um... everyone's bitching about a Road Trip? I expected one. In fact, I would have been surprised if there wasn't one. Sure, it's nothing I'm interested in, but it just seems like the thing to do.
Yes a road trip of comicons, out there supporting the comic, and whatever else they have left.
And maybe Peter could go out with the rest of the Mirage guys and go to shows, or do interviews. But see Peter keeps going oh well not me, oh well not the turtles they're not good enough gosh golly.
You know he sure gets p1ssy with fans when they give him an opinion.
But you know seriously he needs to stop being so down and nonchalant
about this property, this is seriously one of the greatest things to come along in a very long time and the longevity of the property alone has proven that.
I could crap out a better plan for this thing.
I'm seriously disgusted by their attitudes, and lack of any real creative ideas and media.
Thanks Gobo and Buslady. :D

Youtube Version...it's the same, only I can actually post the video and not just a picture link to it...:P
zyG8DkCFLlc

EDIT: Ok, it's up now. :D
hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahah totally perfect!:lol:

[Jester]

zyG8DkCFLlc

hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahah totally perfect!:lol:
Should I make it a video comment to "The Pitch"?

[Archon_Turtle]

Should I make it a video comment to "The Pitch"?

Why havent you already? GO MAN GO!

[Vegita-San]

lol @ publishing unfinished pages. This is so amateurish.

Agreed on that. Although did we find it yourself, or was it on the main page? I can't remember... If it's the former, I can forgive them for that. If they published it and released it unfinished, how unprofessional can you get?

[oldmanwinters]

If this were just a few jokers messing around on YouTube, I'd say it was alright. As an official representation of the franchise? Eh. Dorky. But isn't it true that this was merely the company's "pitch" video to Mirage before they came to contract? Maybe an official version will be *cough* better *cough*.

I say drop that middle age fellow who hands the "turtle" the box and gives him directions to take it to NY. The less speaking parts, the better chance this promotion can be *cough* tolerable *cough*. Sorry, I must have something in my throat.:fshifty::tshifty::fshifty:

[VaughnMichael]

Should I make it a video comment to "The Pitch"?
duuuuhhhh:P

[Jester]

Ok, done. :D

[Archon_Turtle]

If this were just a few jokers messing around on YouTube, I'd say it was alright. As an official representation of the franchise? Eh. Dorky. But isn't it true that this was merely the company's "pitch" video to Mirage before they came to contract? Maybe an official version will be *cough* better *cough*.

I say drop that middle age fellow who hands the "turtle" the box and gives him directions to take it to NY. The less speaking parts, the better chance this promotion can be *cough* tolerable *cough*. Sorry, I must have something in my throat.:fshifty::tshifty::fshifty:

My favorite part is when the founder of the company refers to the other turtles as "friends" and then grossly mispronounces Cowabunga. Yeah...way to show your "knowledge of the brand" gang.

[Raphael_]

My favorite part is when the founder of the company refers to the other turtles as "friends" and then grossly mispronounces Cowabunga. Yeah...way to show your "knowledge of the brand" gang.

I wonder if we'll see some kind of tongue-in-cheek lynching of these folks by the turtles from the old movies as a follow up. This could be some kind of viral joke.

[VaughnMichael]

I wonder if we'll see some kind of tongue-in-cheek lynching of these folks by the turtles from the old movies as a follow up. This could be some kind of viral joke.
I wish Viral would make a joke of their lame @sses.:lol:

[The Shelf]

Well, I just watched it.
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Yep, I watched it. That's about all I have to say.

I dunno. As embarrassing as it was to watch, I think I'd have to say that it's pretty in tune with the cheesiness of the old cartoon and all its commercials/promotions. To me, the worst part was that terrible, terrible dialog. I'm curious to see how things pan out next year.

[Ninjinister]

Yes a road trip of comicons, out there supporting the comic, and whatever else they have left.
And maybe Peter could go out with the rest of the Mirage guys and go to shows, or do interviews. But see Peter keeps going oh well not me, oh well not the turtles they're not good enough gosh golly.
You know he sure gets p1ssy with fans when they give him an opinion.
But you know seriously he needs to stop being so down and nonchalant
about this property, this is seriously one of the greatest things to come along in a very long time and the longevity of the property alone has proven that.
I could crap out a better plan for this thing.
I'm seriously disgusted by their attitudes, and lack of any real creative ideas and media.


Hey, I never said it was the right thing to do. I just guess I'm significantly less disappointed in the road trip because I saw it coming.

[Roseangelo]

Hey, I never said it was the right thing to do. I just guess I'm significantly less disappointed in the road trip because I saw it coming.

I think the road trip idea, in theory, is a very good one. It's the execution of the road trip that should give everyone concern.

[Jester]

RE: "The Pitch"

Machi and I were talking, as we sometimes do, and this is my (I'd say our, but I don't know if she'd wanna be lumped in with my oddness.)

"Ah crap, the Mirage guys are an hour out....and we've god bud-kiss. Quick come up with an idea and shoot the sucker!"

[VaughnMichael]

I think the road trip idea, in theory, is a very good one. It's the execution of the road trip that should give everyone concern.
Yes, that's what I was trying to say.

[notebook]

I disagree, Roseagelo. I think the road trip is a bad idea through and through.

Maybe I could see the sense in it if it was specifically geared toward younger kids and stuff, but as part of the retro racket...it's stupid.
Most retro fans are well into their 20's, and even though it's the turtles, the concept of a mobile tour is juvenile. This is a comic book/cartoon franchise, not a rock band.

But enough has been said about the mismanagement of the turtles lately. I'm just enjoying the aspects of it I enjoy for now, because I really don't see the franchise as having long legs past the anniversary.:tneutral:

It's ok though, more important things in the world/life/etc.

[drasgow]

holy piss........ that was horrible.

[Kendamu]

The video was silly, just as the title said. With that in mind, I liked it. As for the doom-and-gloom outlook on the franchise itself, have fun. I'm just not feeling it the same way you guys are. While it doesn't seem to look like 1980s/1990s Turtlemania in any way whatsoever, I can live with that.

Sounds weird, but I'm also a Dragonball fanboy. Any American who is or ever was deep into the Japanese version of Dragonball knows how much crap American Dragonball fans have to go through. What the Turtles are going through it nothing but sunshine and pepperoni by comparison.

[thebrownranger]

Man the is so f***ing idiotic. Do these people even know that fans here exist? I might as well stop being a fan :cry:

[KROW]

The video was done with the same quality as the toys. Anyone can slap on a makeshift felt bandana, put on a green shirt, grab a mop handle, and record themselves running around as a Ninja Turtle (in fact, there are at least 100 videos of that crap on YouTube as it is). A little more effort wouldn't have hurt.

[Kendamu]

I disagree, Roseagelo. I think the road trip is a bad idea through and through.

Maybe I could see the sense in it if it was specifically geared toward younger kids and stuff, but as part of the retro racket...it's stupid.
Most retro fans are well into their 20's, and even though it's the turtles, the concept of a mobile tour is juvenile. This is a comic book/cartoon franchise, not a rock band.

But enough has been said about the mismanagement of the turtles lately. I'm just enjoying the aspects of it I enjoy for now, because I really don't see the franchise as having long legs past the anniversary.:tneutral:

It's ok though, more important things in the world/life/etc.
But... Harvey Dent had a mobile tour for The Dark Knight and it didn't seem too juvenile.

[gobo]

But... Harvey Dent had a mobile tour for The Dark Knight and it didn't seem too juvenile.
Seriously?? This is the first I'm hearing of it. But, I still think a mobile tour is a very inefficient marketing tool and advertising dollars better spent elsewhere. Am I alone in thinking this?

[Kendamu]

Seriously?? This is the first I'm hearing of it. But, I still think a mobile tour is a very inefficient marketing tool and advertising dollars better spent elsewhere. Am I alone in thinking this?
Depends on where they go. But, yeah, back before TDK came out in theaters there was a Harvey Dent campaign tour bus trying to get people to voe for him as District Attourney of Gotham as part of the viral marketing. As part of that, I also got calls and texts from Gordon, the mob, and the Harvey Dent campaign.

I even got to phone in my vote, too.

[Roseangelo]

But, I still think a mobile tour is a very inefficient marketing tool and advertising dollars better spent elsewhere. Am I alone in thinking this?

It depends on what the goal of such a mobile tour is. I have yet to see a defined goal for any part of the TMNT 25 Shell-abration, so IMO every single penny they're spending is wasted money that could have been spent actually giving us the things we've been asking for. But that would require that they actually care about us.

Nintendo has occasional mall tours for Pokemon, which are HUGELY successful events that offer continued support for the Pokemon video games and trading card game. Whatever Mirage & Co. put together is just going to be laughable because they don't even have anything (worthwhile) for the tour to support.

To put it another way: It'll be like Harvey Dent going on a campaign tour in the weeks before the opening of the next Spider-man movie.