Turtles Really Does have staying Power..

[Vegita-San]

You know what's real amazing when you think about it?

The original series was produced (animated, written, etc) in 1986 and aired in 1987. They've out lasted 8 Tracks, Records, Tapes, and into the CD and DVD Erra with the original series. The Show ended in 1996.

The new show has gone through it's seasons a tad quicker...starting in 2003, and ending probably in 2009 as things are looking now.

But you know what? Despite some bad episodes in both series, The ORIGINAL one could have gone on for a few more years if it kept on taking more chances like they did in the final season. The new show can continue going on, as it just plain keeps on staying fun. It still seems new even though it's been on for barely 6 years now.

It just amazes me that companies like 4Kids don't realize that just yet. Does anyone there think Chaotic can accomplish that just because they own it? :)

[CyberCubed]

Theoretically there are enough ideas in the Turtle universe that the series could last forever.

However it doesn't because TV doesn't work that way, although there is a sense of immortality in the comics, even if those take a "break" for awhile too.

TMNT will probably always exist in some form, I bet years from now we'll have a third TMNT cartoon re-boot on some new kids channel. Who knows.

[Cipher]

So that was juat a long winded way of saying "Please don't cancel the show"?

We know Turtles has staying power. It's an evergreen property, but that doesn't mean every TV adaptation needs to be milked to kingdom come. Let it rest, and keep faith in the fact that there will be another version eventually. Or hell, read the comics in the meantime. They're better anyway.

Look at Batman, for instace. He's been around for over 60 years, and no Batman show has lasted more than five seasons. It's not a big deal.

[Vegita-San]

Perhaps :). but It was more a plea to let it surpass the original series 194 episodes :D ...So damn close :).

[Coola Yagami]

True, but Batman hasn't had time to fade away yet. Batman appeared in Batman the Animated Series that lasted like 2 or 3 seasons before they renamed it Gotham Nights or whatever and started redrawing it. Batman was then with the Justice League, and even when his own show was over, he was still in JL and JLU. Hell, even while he was on JLU, they made a new show, The Batman. So even when JLU was over and done, Batman had another new show that lasted like 3 seasons. Now, no sooner does The Batman end... we already have Batman-Brave and Bold on TV. Batman hasn't had a real hiatus expect the years between Superfriends and BAS. He's still going strong. It would suck for the TMNT to fade away so soon. It woulda been cool if some other company made an all-new TMNT show not too long after Back to the Sewers ends.



Now Spiderman has had the year breaks. He had the Spiderman Animated series and Spiderman Unlimited real close behind it. Then after a few years it came back with the MTV Spiderman, and then a year or so later we have Spectacular Spiderman.

[cMac44111]

For some reason, I see the next coming of the TMNT to start with a movie. It may go against the rhythm that it has now, but if it comes off as being in the same wavelength as the first movie (not too dark as in the comic, but not as lighthearted as the OT), then maybe that will attract new viewers. I'm not sure, but how did Batman TAS do, did it gain more attention to the franchise?

[Coola Yagami]

Batman TAS was basically following the heels of the 2 Burton Batman movies, which brought out the fact to the general public that Batman wasn't all about camp and Adam West, but actually a dark kick-ass vigilantee. So yeah, Batman TAS really brought attention to the franchise and helped pulled the character out of the Adam West/Superfriends pit.

Sadly, I'm not quite sure the 2K3 version of the TMNT successfully pulled the Turtles out of their own pizza/cowabunga pit. While it did show the public that the turtles can kick some ass and be dark, it still had lots of fans complaining about lack of Krang, Bebop, Rocksteady, whatever. For some reason.. noone ever complained about Batman never doing the Batusi on TAS or any other garbage.

[Cipher]

For some reason.. noone ever complained about Batman never doing the Batusi on TAS or any other garbage.Probably because it came out over twenty years after the live-action show ended, wheras the gap between TMNT shows was less than ten.

When Batman came back they could sell a dark version to a generation of adults only peripherally familiar with the campy era. The adults that a dark TMNT would be marketed to now would be the same ones who grew up on the old toon; ones who would complain about the lack of Krang, etc.

I'd like to believe that this was a major part of the latest movie's non-acceptance. The other two parts were not being sure what its target audience was and not being a good movie.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I think the original show should more chances earlier, maybe in 1992-1993 or something.

[Coola Yagami]

I think another factor was that at the time other shows like He Man and Transformers were getting re-boots as well as part of a '80's revival' thing. And many fans felt cheated that shows like He Man were updates of the older shows, while TMNT was so dramatically different. Instead of an update of the whole Krang/Technodrome thing, they get stuff unfamiliar to them cause they never even heard of the Mirage comics before.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I think another factor was that at the time other shows like He Man and Transformers were getting re-boots as well as part of a '80's revival' thing. And many fans felt cheated that shows like He Man were updates of the older shows, while TMNT was so dramatically different. Instead of an update of the whole Krang/Technodrome thing, they get stuff unfamiliar to them cause they never even heard of the Mirage comics before.

Isn't that good? I searched on Wikipeda about He-Man and it had the original 1981 comics. It was not the same as that 1983 cartoon, since it only had He-Man, not prince Adam. 2003 TMNT was a bigger success than 2002 He-Man, that was cancelled in 2004.