Spectacular Spider-Man?

[Leonardo19]

Does anyone know if there will be anymore episodes of Spectacular Spiderman? All I ever see them show is Season 1 stuff? Also has there been a Season 1 DVD announced?

Thanks for any help.

[The Terror of Death]

There will be a season 2 in 09 but it wont be on the CW 4kids. It will probably air around March on a new network most likely NickToons since they have Ironman and Wolverine and the X-Men.

[Peanut]

I think they're only releasing those lame ass volumes for the show, thus far. Hopefully a season set isn't far off.

[GK Punk]

...How hard is it to remember the - In Spider-Man? I mean really. :(

[Cure]

...How hard is it to remember the - In Spider-Man? I mean really. :(

Then fix it, Mr. Mod!

[GK Punk]

I had to. My head would have exploded if I didn't. :(

[VaughnMichael]

I really love this show infact it's made me more of a Spider-Man fan.
I hope they bring out a season box set and more episodes, I just hope it's not on some odd chanel or time so I can watch it.

[DrSpengler]

The NickToons thing is just a rumor, so far as I've heard.

The fact that the series has been canned after season 2, though, is not. :(

Weisman has stated that over half the staff for the series have been laid off and renewal past season 2 is highly unlikely, and even if the show DOES get picked up for a 3rd season, they'd have to hire a completely new staff since all the folks they fired have moved on to new projects.

A shame when such a good show is canned as soon as it gets off the ground.

[oldmanwinters]

The NickToons thing is just a rumor, so far as I've heard.

The fact that the series has been canned after season 2, though, is not. :(

Weisman has stated that over half the staff for the series have been laid off and renewal past season 2 is highly unlikely, and even if the show DOES get picked up for a 3rd season, they'd have to hire a completely new staff since all the folks they fired have moved on to new projects.

A shame when such a good show is canned as soon as it gets off the ground.

Makes you realize how incredible the TMNT's run has been (both times!).

[Peanut]

I still don't know how the f*ck can something that's so quality gets canned that quickly. When I look at the sh*t out there going on for season after season, it just baffles me.

[AquaParade]

I still don't know how the f*ck can something that's so quality gets canned that quickly. When I look at the sh*t out there going on for season after season, it just baffles me.

Too true. I know it sounds a little dramatic, but it's really one of the saddest things to happen in animated television in a long time...besides the resurrection and embarrassing breakdown of Family guy.

[VaughnMichael]

I still don't know how the f*ck can something that's so quality gets canned that quickly. When I look at the sh*t out there going on for season after season, it just baffles me.
Yeah seriously, everything about this show is rad from the theme song to the animation to the stories, etc.
I have to wonder what the real reason is for it getting the axe so quickly is.

[Drtooth]

The NickToons thing is just a rumor, so far as I've heard.

The fact that the series has been canned after season 2, though, is not. :(

Weisman has stated that over half the staff for the series have been laid off and renewal past season 2 is highly unlikely, and even if the show DOES get picked up for a 3rd season, they'd have to hire a completely new staff since all the folks they fired have moved on to new projects.

A shame when such a good show is canned as soon as it gets off the ground.


Yup... the American Children's TV industry at its finest. As long as one kid doesn't hurt himself doing something stupid, then the parents can turn a nice blind eye. "Oh, there is no children's TV anymore... I guess that's good. Now I'm going to have to blame the kids my kid hangs out with while I have another appletini with the other privileged soccer moms."

Season 2 didn't even START and they've canceled it. Even if the ratings are spectacular there's no hope. You know, if I were Marvel, I'd sue Sony for this. This has to be a breach of contract.

And yes, the DVD set will come out either by the time Season 2 airs or as soon as it does. That's usually how it works.

[ZariusTwo]

Wiesman had the whole 65 episode structure set up. It's a real shame. We were going to have one full year told over five "seasons" (legit seasons, as in winter/spring/summer/autum) over five years, then the movies were going to dip into the more mature layers of the series.

[Peanut]

Wiesman had the whole 65 episode structure set up. It's a real shame. We were going to have one full year told over five "seasons" (legit seasons, as in winter/spring/summer/autum) over five years, then the movies were going to dip into the more mature layers of the series.

This is a complete f*cking tragedy. What was the reasoning behind this show getting axed, anyways?

[Drtooth]

Mostly because there's no place to put it. Let's run them down:

Fox is dead....

I don't think 4Kids has the money to negotiate with Sony for the second season.

CBS, ABC, NBC- FCC obligatory TV EI- not to mention ABC and NBC just use reruns from other networks they own anyway

Cartoon Network is basically turning into the Crappy family films from 5-10 years ago network

Nickelodeon, outside of Spongebob, only cares about Teennick and Nick Jr. (apparently there is no Nick 5-10 year olds anymore, go figure)

Disney still has bad blood with Marvel over that whole fiasco about who owns the 1990's Marvel cartoons

So, basically Nicktoons is all that's left. And if they don't get it, where's it gonna end up?

I have to admit, it's pretty naive to think that a cartoon series will even last one full season, let alone 5. Too bad they're too blind to realize that even the reruns are doing great in the ratings... and they've just started airing the Lizard episode for the 10th time.

[AquaParade]

On the bright side, we get 26 great episodes on disc when it's all said and done. Maybe Weisman will still be able to do some of the direct to dvd's he was talking about.

[The Terror of Death]

Spectacular is heading to Disney XD.

http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=27545

[gobo]

Well, ****... Is XD the thing they're replacing ToonDisney with? If so, at least I have that.

[MrPliggins]

No, XD is a smiley face. It took me about ten years to realize that. I didn't even know this show was cancelled...what a shame, I enjoyed the episodes I've seen.

[Raph's Girl]

No, XD is a smiley face. It took me about ten years to realize that. I didn't even know this show was cancelled...what a shame, I enjoyed the episodes I've seen.

In this case XD is the Channel. Disney XD.

It's apperantly the replacement for Toon Disney. So yay me....One of my fave shows is on a channel I don't have... :P

[MrPliggins]

Hmm never heard of this Disney XD...thanks for clearing that up.

[VaughnMichael]

Awesome to know this great shows going to be on a chanel hardly anyone has. argh!:x
I hope they show it some place else so fans can watch this.

[Jester]

Well there's always
The Internet...:o

Thought seriously it sucks that Spidey's on some obscure cable channel. It and Wolvie and the X-men are great,. and relegated to god knows where networks.

[Jon]

Awesome to know this great shows going to be on a chanel hardly anyone has. argh!:x
I hope they show it some place else so fans can watch this.


A channel hardly anyone has?! Sorry, but no. Toon Disney has a good amount of broadcasting range. On the other hand, Boomerang would be one that doesn't (at the least, not the kind of amount TD does anyway).

[VaughnMichael]

A channel hardly anyone has?! Sorry, but no. Toon Disney has a good amount of broadcasting range. On the other hand, Boomerang would be one that doesn't (at the least, not the kind of amount TD does anyway).
I'm talking about XD, I'm sorry but I'm not paying out the @ss for extra chanels that I don't watch, I don't even watch that much tv to start with so why pay more to watch one cartoon.
I'll do things the Jester way and use the internet!:o

[Jon]

I'm talking about XD, I'm sorry but I'm not paying out the @ss for extra chanels that I don't watch, I don't even watch that much tv to start with so why pay more to watch one cartoon.
I'll do things the Jester way and use the internet!:o


Well, what I meant by that is (far as I've read) XD is just going to be the new name for what currently is Toon Disney.

[Drtooth]

Awesome to know this great shows going to be on a chanel hardly anyone has. argh!:x
I hope they show it some place else so fans can watch this.

Hey.... it was going to go to Nicktoons. Even less people have Nicktoons than Toon Disney. Too bad CN thinks that it's more important to run movies from 1998-2003 that everyone has seen in some way shape or form by now. It probably would have gone to a GOOD channel, but no one's interested in anything but infomercials now. No one watches them, no one likes them, but they're an easy way to get money they don't deserve.

[Raph's Girl]

Well for those who don't wanna wait till March it seems that season 2 will be premiering in Canada on teletoon on Sunday January 11th at 10:30am. Here's the plot descriptions for all 13 eps:

http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=155

14 – Blueprints
It’s early December, and the first snow is falling. PETER PARKER has a long “To Do” list – leading off with talking to GWEN STACY about their surprise first kiss. But before he gets the chance, SPIDER-MAN has a run in with the sorcerer MYSTERIO.

15 - Destructive Testing
Both GWEN STACY and LIZ ALLAN like PETER PARKER. So whom should Pete pursue? Meanwhile, KRAVEN THE HUNTER has come to New York to make SPIDER-MAN his prey!

16 - Reinforcement
As Christmas approaches, the SINISTER SIX reconstitutes with SANDMAN, RHINO, VULTURE, ELECTRO and new members MYSTERIO and KRAVEN. All they want for Christmas is SPIDER-MAN – dead. Meanwhile, PETER PARKER finds his wandering eye prevents him from being with GWEN STACY. He’ll have to learn to focus if he wants to get the girl… and if he wants to stay alive.

17 - Shear Strength
It’s New Year’s Eve, and all is not right with world. The MASTER PLANNER and his henchmen are literally planning to take over the world! A highly motivated SPIDER-MAN takes the fight to the Planner’s secret lair. But once he gets there, can he survive?

18 - First Steps
School’s back in session, and things have changed. PETER PARKER’s actually invited to FLASH THOMPSON’s birthday bash. Meanwhile, SPIDER-MAN has to party with SANDMAN, who’s once again looking to make his Big Score. And is that VENOM disappearing into the night?

19 - Growing Pains
VENOM is back and framing SPIDER-MAN. Meanwhile, alien spores infect JOHN JAMESON, increasing his size, strength and mass. J. JONAH JAMESON convinces his son to become a super-hero to capture Spidey…

20 - Identity Crisis
PETER PARKER’s secret identity as SPIDER-MAN has been outted by VENOM, leaving Pete and his loved ones vulnerable to all of Spidey’s enemies.

21 - Accomplices
A gang war looms as SILVER SABLE, HAMMERHEAD and DOCTOR OCTOPUS vie for a prize that could change the balance of power in the New York Underworld…

22 - Probable Cause
Some days, PETER PARKER just can’t win… especially when he winds up on a MIDTOWN HIGH police car ride-along with SALLY AVRIL. As SPIDER-MAN, his luck isn’t any better, facing off against SHOCKER, RICOCHET and OX, i.e. the NEW ENFORCERS.

23 - Gangland
On Valentine’s Day, PETER PARKER jeopardizes his relationship with girlfriend LIZ ALLAN, when TOMBSTONE , DOCTOR OCTOPUS and SILVERMANE call a Valentine’s Day Summit . But when HAMMERHEAD betrays them all in an attempt to become the new Big Man, the summit erupts into a gang war – one only SPIDER-MAN can stop!

24 - Subtext
Determined to be a better boyfriend to LIZ ALLAN, PETER PARKER wishes he could help her brother MARK ALLAN. But when GREEN GOBLIN blackmails Mark into doing his bidding, neither Liz, MARY JANE WATSON nor SPIDER-MAN may be able to save him!

25 - Opening Night
To test security at the VAULT, SPIDER-MAN volunteers to try to escape. But the GREEN GOBLIN has other ideas, trapping Spidey inside RYKER’S amid a sea of felons he put away.

26 - Final Curtain
When PETER PARKER breaks up with LIZ ALLAN to finally be with GWEN STACY, nothing goes as planned. Likewise for SPIDER-MAN, who finally unmasks the GREEN GOBLIN, revealing him to be--No, wait! Stop! I promise I won’t tell a soul! :lol:

Edit: Dangit... sorry... hrm... :ohwell:

[Peanut]

F*cking spoiler tags you stupid twat!

[Cure]

I wish forgetting to use spoiler tags was ban worthy.

[Spike Spiegel]

Wiesman had the whole 65 episode structure set up. It's a real shame. We were going to have one full year told over five "seasons" (legit seasons, as in winter/spring/summer/autum) over five years, then the movies were going to dip into the more mature layers of the series.

Dammit, that would have been great!

Seriously, I find this to be one of the most consistently well written animated shows since TMNT 2k3 and Batman: TAS. It has so much potential--I would have loved to se it last at least as long as the 1990s Christopher Daniel Barnes/John Semper version.

And I would have loved a DTV or straight to DVD Batman: Mask of the Phantasm or ROTJ equivalent in this Spidey universe...

[ZariusTwo]

Season two of the series has begun airing in Canada, and the official premiere in the States isnt until March on Disney XD.

Sony and Marvel will only commision a third season if the second is a success. Greg and his crew have all been officially laid off, but Sony are keeping them on standby.

[The Terror of Death]

Toon Disney reran the other Spidey cartoons into the ground so I will be surprised if season 2 doesn't do well.

[Raph's Girl]

If there are any Bulgarians around here Season 2 of Spectacular Spider-man is currently airing twice a week on Nova TV. 2 eps every weekend. Check your local listings for the times.

http://www.ntv.bg/program/

So now Bulgaria is ahead of everyone in Spider-Man eps.

[Hero]

I think I'll check the TV listings here in Blighty.

===HERO

[Drtooth]

Sony and Marvel will only commision a third season if the second is a success. Greg and his crew have all been officially laid off, but Sony are keeping them on standby.

God, I hope XD is a smash success only if Spidey gets another well deserved season.

That said:

Weren't these supposed to be "movies?" (http://tvshowsondvd.com/news/Spectacular-Spider-Man-Volumes-2-and-3/11232) and not kiddy friendly volumes of 3 episodes for 14 bucks?

[ZariusTwo]

They didnt work out as well as they hoped

[Hero]

Could'nt find Spiderman listed on TV here.

I managed to acquire the first three episodes of Season 2 though. I like the amount that has been crammed into just those 3 so far.

===HERO

[Raph's Girl]

Aaand just to piss everyone off Spectactular Spider-man Season 2 won't even be airing till the Summer now.... gee thanks Disney. :roll:

When the series premiers on Disney XD on March 23rd it'll be the first season only. Aint that fun? :P

Thank the gods for Canada....

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0902/28/index.htm

[Cure]

Aaand just to piss everyone off Spectactular Spider-man Season 2 won't even be airing till the Summer now.... gee thanks Disney. :roll:

At least it's coming, you ingrate.

[Drtooth]

Aaand just to piss everyone off Spectactular Spider-man Season 2 won't even be airing till the Summer now.... gee thanks Disney. :roll:

Guess it's a smack in the face that McDonalds just started a Spectacular Spider-Man promotion then. But at least it's starting with the first season... that everyone's seen a hundred times by now... but I agree... be thankful it's airing somewhere...

I just hope it's a big enough world wide hit so we can at least get the third season produced. It's like they're treating this as a stop gap in between movies to keep the franchise going.

[AquaParade]

I can wait forever for these episodes to be released, as I am just waiting to pick them all up on dvd when there are a lot of them down the road, and enjoy them by the bundle that way....

What really matters to me is a confirmation of third season. I hope that the first season airing well will be good enough for Disney to go ahead with a third....Greg's plan for Spectacular Spider-man could turn into one of the greatest animated tv series dvd sets ever:)

[Raph's Girl]

The Season 1 DVD Box set will be this Summer according to Graig Weisman at Wonder Con. More info here:

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0903/01/spectacularspiderman.htm

[Drtooth]

Finally. I love how they wanted to release them as "movies" and then they "changed their minds" (i.e. got lazy) and released these "kiddy friendly" 3 episode disks (spending more for the same amount of episodes is ALWAYS friendly... yeah right). Too bad it's gonna take so long, though.

[Peanut]

Great about the box set. I'll definitely pick that up.

And season 2 has been great, thus far. The last two episodes in particular have been amazing. The 2nd of which was pretty much 15 minutes worth of fight scenes. Such fantastic animation.

[Buffy]

Last weeks epsisode was sweet!

Venom is back! :D

[Hero]

I've seen 6 of the 7 episodes that have surfaced so far. I've not seen 4 yet because I can't get it anywhere.

===HERO

[Spike Spiegel]

Venom is back! :D

But seriously, there's no way that wouldn't happen...:roll::roll::roll:

I'm getting cable today, so maybe I'll see it soon!!:P:P:P

[Raph's Girl]

Just a heads up that the series is currently airing on Nickelodeon in Australia. New ep aired Today with eps also airing on Sun, Mon, and Tuesday to finish out the season. They air at 7am.

[Peanut]

I just watched the season 2 finale, and now I'm thoroughly depressed. If the show doesn't come back, it's going to be a complete f*cking shame.

[Hero]

Spoiler tags at the ready then :)

I am up to episode 8 so far, thanks to Buffy. I've really enjoyed this season thus far.

===HERO

[ToTheNines]

DVD time bitchez

http://dvd.ign.com/articles/985/985954p1.html

Season 1. No bull ****, only bonus features!

[Peanut]

Sh*t! I don't know what to do here! I hope there's some mention of Blu-ray coming soon. I don't want to drop the money for the set if a superior BD version is on its way.

[rayfillet101]

I cant wait for the dvd, disney XD's spiderman page even focuses on season 2 characters and the regular cast(liz allen, flash, kong, conners) I really hope we see a season 3 since i cheated and watched season 2 already!

[ToTheNines]

Product: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002A5EBLW/ref=asc_df_B002A5EBLW854764?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Review: http://dvd.ign.com/articles/100/1004514p1.html

[Spike Spiegel]

Well, consider this one bought by me. From the product description, it seems there will some halfway decent special features.

I don't really get the "I'm waiting for the Blu-Ray" thing, though. How much better looking is the animation supposed to be in that format?

[Cure]

I don't really get the "I'm waiting for the Blu-Ray" thing, though. How much better looking is the animation supposed to be in that format?

Uh...have you seen the show in HD? If you did, you'd know the difference.

[The Terror of Death]

http://tv.ign.com/articles/102/1020699p1.html

[Cure]

Marvel would be stupid not to continue the show themselves. That, and I would cry. A LOT. Like, it would be unhealthy. SERIOUSLY.

[GK Punk]

Same, easily the best toon on TV.

[Hordak]

I wish Disney XD would finish showing season 2! But I have watched them on youtube anyway! And I hope they do season 3! I am ready for Scorpion, Carnage, & Hobgoblin!

[Newton Gimmick]

I keep meaning to watch this more regularly. I think thats how you know you're getting old.

[Peanut]

This would be the first step to making the Marvel/Disney thing look good. Get Spectacular rolling again. FOR LOVE OF GOD, DO IT!

[Hordak]

Newton, don't feel bad I probably would to if it wasn't for DVR!

[odupianist]

This is probably the top cartoon out there today. I've seen it pull some great older cartoon elements into it (the battle chereographed with the Nutcracker Suite in the background is very 90's Animaniacs or even older older Looney Tunes). It's very witty and fitting for the Spider-man franchise. I hope Disvel/Marney is smart enough to continue this and give us Season 3. I do like the fact that now they can use non Spider-man characters too. It could really help keep this series alive for a long time.

[Cure]

Man, I just watched the season 2 finale. Just thinking about this show not coming back makes me wanna cry.

[Ninjinister]

Wait... Season 2 STARTED? F***! How did I miss a whole damn season?

[Hordak]

They been showing it weird! They skip weeks then show like 2 new eps! I dvr'd the last 2 & one was missing the dialog! It had the sound effects but no voices! I looked ahead on my guide to find it was re-running soon!

[Hero]

Remind me. Why is there not going to be a season 3? Not continuing this show is pretty silly.

===HERO

[gobo]

Damn straight...

For American audiences, I have a question. I caught two eps on XD two nights ago, and the second had 98% of the spoken dialogue silenced. Being Disney, this is probably a dumb question, but... Do they do stupid **** like this often?

[ZariusTwo]

Remind me. Why is there not going to be a season 3? Not continuing this show is pretty silly.

===HERO

CW4Kids went under and TSSM was caught in the crossfire. Disney picked up the rights, but not before the production team had been let go.

Disney wanted to air the first two seasons and see how well the ratings were on their channels, but you know they won't renew it.

[GoldMutant]

(Ignore the fact this is a decade old thread)

I been wanting to write on some nostalgic series, but didn't want to create a new thread just yet. Still a little rusty, but if you been following me in some TMNT reviews, you'll know this. I love this series; Spectacular Spider-Man is one of my all-time favorite shows. (heck, trying to get a gif from it as a new signature)

Obviously, most know why the show was a success. In case not, however, here's a shortlist of things I (and others) enjoyed:


The overarching storylines
Inspiration/tribute to past Spider-Man incarnations
The fight choreography
The balance of Parker drama and Spider-Man thrill
Nearly every character got development


That's the short end. It has arguably some of the wall-crawler's strongest villain interpretations (notably Green Goblin, Venom, and Tombstone). It's just an overall package. Had it not been right problems, the show could've continued. I been reading some concepts that were set for fruition, and it's a damn shame all things considered.

If curious, my five favorite episodes (in no order) were Final Curtain (series finale and overall favorite), Natural Selection (Lizard's only appearance), Nature vs Nurture (season 1 finale with Venom), Subtext (Molten Man debut), and Group Therapy (Sinister Six debut). This list varies though, with the first three listed being my top three of the show.

For least favorites (in no order) are Reaction (debut of Doc Ock), Opening Night (Vault episode), Identity Crisis (final Venom episode), Growing Pains (Colonial Jupiter, eh...) and Intervention (personally, it's mediocre, but not "bad"). Really, there was no overall bad episode personally, but Intervention and Reaction felt the most middling.

Mostly making this post possibly to discuss the series in full, and get back into posting. What better way than one of my favorite series?

[CyberCubed]

I kinda wish the side villains were given more depth. Before I watched this I was assuming DCAU or Young Justice or Gargoyles like characterisation for most characters, but a lot of the characters just turned evil way too fast like Electro or just had little depth like Rhino, Shocker or Sandman (at least till his last ep). Also found Tombstone to be a bore with his Goliath voice.

Still a good series, but it fell short of the best DC cartoons for me. Also Peter breaking up with Liz was heartbreaking and he should of stayed with her over Gwen. Meh.

[GoldMutant]

I kinda wish the side villains were given more depth. A lot of the characters just turned evil way too fast like Electro or just had little depth like Rhino, Shocker or Sandman (at least till his last ep). Also found Tombstone to be a bore with his Goliath voice.

Ironically, the issue with Electro applies to Doc Ock personally. Electro at least had a whole episode before going insane. That, and his other episodes proved he lost it. Ock took only a few minutes. Ock got better in his later episodes, but goodness, Reaction definitely was one of the weakest episodes looking back.

As for the rest, agree to disagree. Not every villain had to be as complex as Venom, Green Goblin, or Tombstone. Honestly, Sandman was one of my favorite villains here. Rhino was just funny too with some of his dialogue.

Personally, the cancellation definitely affected many of the characters. Barring anyone introduced in season 2 (except maybe Molten Man), it definitely was a negative impact. Not much we can do, but certainly frustrating.

[sdp]

I've been meaning to rewatch this show again, i wanted to hate it but feel in love with it after watching it, it's been over ten years since I did. spectacular spiderman had realistic relationships (https://miscrave.com/articles/realistic-cartoon-shipping/) with all the breakbups and love triangles I felt like it was just like high school can be. A shame we never got a third season but weisman and his crazy 10 season story arcs before being Green lit for a second one always fail. A shame we haven't had a good spiderman cartoon in over a decade

[Leo656]

I feel like it should be legal to physically assault people who don't hyphenate "Spider-Man". Especially when they do it over and over again.

[Jephael]

What's your position on that extra A used in Michelangelo from 1984 to 2001?

[Leo656]

Broken pinkie, but nothing serious. It was a different time.

People who type "Ralph" instead of "Raph", though, get f*cked in the goddamn ear.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Yeah, I never understood how anyone can actually call Raph "Ralph." If you know Raphael as a full name, do you call anyone with the name Raphael "Ralph" in real life? I question their TMNT fan badges.

This was a show I always meant to watch but just never got around to it. I plan to since I hear this is arguably the most well made Spider-Man cartoon series. If you look past the simplified designs, it's a very good show according to the consensus. On the opposite end though, Ultimate has better designs but is the weaker show.

[AquaParade]

I don't love this show as much as the average Spider-Man fan. It did a lot right, like serialization, pacing, and animation, so I do think it deserves praise.

The characterization was sort of goofy to me though. I don't think the voice acting helped. One of the characters was shrieking every time she opened her mouth and I remember Harry sounding, just, weird. I don't know, voice acting must be much harder than it looks, because sometimes characters can come across sounding so fake and unnatural.

My biggest issue, and one that is sadly not limited to this show, is Peter's perfect moral compass. I know we are meant to aspire to the character in some ways, and I also want to see proper character growth stemming from the incident with uncle Ben - Peter should learn a lesson that sticks with him. At the same time, I need Peter to make mistakes in order for him to feel real and for the stories to have a sense of pathos or some kind of redemption arc. When all of Peter's problems stem from the fact that he is saving people in his secret life as Spider-Man, I find him harder to relate to. Maybe I'm just an a-hole, you tell me, but when Peter is such a perfect, lovely, nice guy, I find the character loses some of the edge that makes him stand out from other superheroes. I think he should be constantly messing up and paying the price for it, while trying to redeem himself in the process. I suppose I see Peter as a character of redemption more than anything else.

[ZariusTwo]

I need Peter to make mistakes in order for him to feel real and for the stories to have a sense of pathos or some kind of redemption arc. When all of Peter's problems stem from the fact that he is saving people in his secret life as Spider-Man, I find him harder to relate to. Maybe I'm just an a-hole, you tell me, but when Peter is such a perfect, lovely, nice guy, I find the character loses some of the edge that makes him stand out from other superheroes. I think he should be constantly messing up and paying the price for it, while trying to redeem himself in the process. I suppose I see Peter as a character of redemption more than anything else.

You don't get much doozies than saying to Marvel's devil 'take my wife and family please' to ensure your aunt makes you flapjacks

[CyberCubed]

Peter's friends were really annoying in this show. I liked Gwen, Harry and Liz was cool. MJ unfortunately didn't get enough screentime before the show was canceled.

But everyone else was very annoying. Flash (I know that's the point of him but still), the blonde girl with Harley's voice, the black woman who had the same voice as Max from Batman Beyond, the fat guy, the other black guy, the Asian girl...it's like they threw in all these school characters but they were all one-note stereotypes of whatever they were based on. Every time these characters were on screen I got so bored.

Also the laughably bad stereotypes. The jocks hating nerds, the blonde girl who hates that Liz went out with a "geek" like Peter, meh. I mean even back in 2008 I felt most of these stereotypes were really outdated.

[ZariusTwo]

MJ unfortunately didn't get enough screentime before the show was canceled.


I find the MJs with the least screen time make for the more compelling versions of the character, as she's allowed to be more herself and prove to the audience just what she has that justifies her as the end of Peter's story. A similar thing happened in the close of the recent Disney XD Cartoon.

[Coola Yagami]

Also the laughably bad stereotypes. The jocks hating nerds, the blonde girl who hates that Liz went out with a "geek" like Peter, meh. I mean even back in 2008 I felt most of these stereotypes were really outdated.

That's never gonna go away. It might not be a jock vs nerd thing anymore cause nowadays even jocks post memes and watch internet porn or whatever, but there will always be the stronger sport types picking on the weaker bookworm types. Not a stereotype if it's true.

[GoldMutant]

But everyone else was very annoying. Flash (I know that's the point of him but still), the blonde girl with Harley's voice, the black woman who had the same voice as Max from Batman Beyond, the fat guy, the other black guy, the Asian girl...it's like they threw in all these school characters but they were all one-note stereotypes of whatever they were based on. Every time these characters were on screen I got so bored.

Names in order you listed, Cube: Sally (the blonde), Glory Grant (not just Max, but many other characters. It's Cree Summer voicing her), Kenny Kong (Ultimate Comics) Rand Robertson (son of Daily Bugle editor Robbie), and Sha Shan (a girlfriend of Flash, I believe?).

Honestly, the only two I disliked of the bunch were Kong and Sally. Kong just wasn't interesting here, and Sally was easily the worst character of the show. The others had good voices or moments, but were underdeveloped compared to Liz, Mary Jane, and Flash barring the big three (Pete, Harry, and Gwen).

I didn't like Flash's voice, but he was probably the most developed character of the bunch barring my personal favorite: Liz. Though I can see why he can be irritating (his laugh especially) or others (Sally, in particular).