TMNT: Smash-Up

[StealthNinjaScyther]

http://gonintendo.com/?p=65857

This time they actually have people who've worked on fighting games developing it. Sounds promising.

[Tansut]

http://gonintendo.com/?p=65857

Not a whole lot is known right now other than it's a four player fighter with people working on it who worked on Brawl and some folks from Team Ninja. Of course, that's enough for me to want it play it immediately.

Edit: I literally checked a few moments ago when I went to post about this, somehow I missed the other thread. Since mine came second could a mod please delete this? Thanks!

[Lil G]

awesome news! thx for the info i got the wii.:D and the 360... and the psp... and obviously a laptop. so i pretty much stay in tune with the tmnt games.:D

[Ninjinister]

Ha! I KNEW this wasn't canceled! AND it's a versus fighter (my favourite genre) made by people with high pedigree in versus fighters. F*** yeah!

Mad World just bumped to number two on my most wanted games for next year.

[Canadian Turtle]

Damn I was hoping I would never have to buy new systems... now I will have to.... long live old school systems!

[Ninjinister]

More details (from GoNintendo)

-published by Ubisoft
-official development started Jan. 2008
-concept started Oct. 2007
-to be released in Sept. 2009
-2.5D Fighter
-Interactive Stages
-4 player versus
-Story Mode
-Battle Royal
-Tournament
-Winner Stays
-Loser Stays
-Practice
-Unlockable Characters
-Unlockable Stages
-Online aspects said to be better than Brawl implementation
-Each character is color coded with glowing effect to make 4-player battles easy to follow

“While this is a licensed game, it’s not tied to any movie or TV show…for this game to succeed on its own it needs to be a great game.” - Ubisoft producer

http://gonintendo.com/?p=65881

[gobo]

You guys are totally stealing the thunder of the noob who posted this an hour or so ago. That's kinda mean.

[shuriken]

Damn I was hoping I would never have to buy new systems... now I will have to.... long live old school systems!

I whole heartedly agree!
I'll just buy the game for my friend with a wii and constantly go over to his house muahahahaha!

[Ninjinister]

You know Scyther posted it first, right? The "noob", as you put it, even said:

Since mine came second could a mod please delete this? Thanks!

[gobo]

Oh, right. I remember now wondering why he said that because this one wasn't showing up in my new posts search. My evil, yo.

[StealthNinjaScyther]

“While this is a licensed game, it’s not tied to any movie or TV show…for this game to succeed on its own it needs to be a great game.” - Ubisoft producer


I hope this means this game will cover several of the TMNT universes. This is one medium where I welcome crossovers of this kind. It would be a great way to bring back Slash.

[sdp]

This has tons of potential to be awesome,

Ninjister you should have totally taken on the bet I made since you would have won and you'd own my sig for 6 months :lol:

though in this case it was a win-win for me, since even if I lost the bet it meant a new turtles game :lol:

[Ninjinister]

This has tons of potential to be awesome,

Ninjister you should have totally taken on the bet I made since you would have won and you'd own my sig for 6 months :lol:

though in this case it was a win-win for me, since even if I lost the bet it meant a new turtles game :lol:

Ha ha, 'tis all right. I probably wouldn't have thought of anything to do with your sig anyway.

I'm totally freaking stoked for this. I'm checking the rounds on every game news site from here until launch for more info.

[Machias Banshee]

This sounds interesting. Ubisoft doing this makes me happy - I've had my hopes of a Splinter-Cell style tmnt game... I just hope they keep out the annoying catchphrases. :sick:

[Ninjinister]

This sounds interesting. Ubisoft doing this makes me happy - I've had my hopes of a Splinter-Cell style tmnt game... I just hope they keep out the annoying catchphrases. :sick:

I would have actually rather have seen Konami had done a Metal Gear Solid-esque TMNT game than Ubisoft have one like Splinter Cell. Splinter Cell is just a wee bit too dull for my tastes >.<

[Machias Banshee]

I'll admit I've never played MGS... but I'll take your word for it.

[sdp]

I don't understand is this a 2.5d fighter or a smashbros like game?

Even though concept started in oct of 07 and development in jan 08 if it doesn't even have a title or screenshots I really hope it doesnt end up being rushed after waiting all these years for the 25th and just get a inferior product.

Hopefully story mode is something well put together and not half assed and since its not bound by any license i really hope for some really cool stuff out of this or i'll be disappointed.

It'd be cool if it was named tournament fighters and Mikey was in the cover since he was the only one to get jewed in the boxart from the previous game :lol:

In fact even though Tournament fighters was mostly based on the old toon, it had influences of everything from mirage to archie so i'd definitely like it to be somewhat like it in mood. Again I really hope they take advantage of that it isn't based on a movie/show. Even though it'll be rated E i'm also hoping for it to be as dark as it can while having some humor of course referencing the old toon, a mashup of all the universes.

I'm not too picky, as long as it has cool characters/story/mood and a decent engine I'll love the game. It doesn't have to be the next Street Fighter or Smash bros.

I just hope they keep out the annoying catchphrases. :sick:

actually i'd hope Mikey to say cowabunga and turtle power :D

[R-iZZy]

Wow, members of Team Ninja are in on this? Even some folks who developed SSBB are developing this?!

YESSSS!

[Ninjinister]

I don't understand is this a 2.5d fighter or a smashbros like game?


Smash Bros. IS a 2.5 fighter. It's classified under the sub-genre of "action fighter" or "platform fighter" in the standard versus fighter genre.

[Peanut]

It's 2.5 D because it's 3D on a 2D plane. Definitely sounds really cool, especially if they can throw whatever they want in there, in terms of characters. I'd love it if they had alternate costumes. Giving all the characters Mirage-style skins would be amazing.

[Ninjinister]

It's 2.5 D because it's 3D on a 2D plane. Definitely sounds really cool, especially if they can throw whatever they want in there, in terms of characters. I'd love it if they had alternate costumes. Giving all the characters Mirage-style skins would be amazing.

I concur. I'm salivating just thinking about who's all going to be in it, what everything's going to look like, how exactly it will play....

[Jester]

I guess I'll have to buy a Wii...darn it...;)

Is it going to be on any other system?

[Roseangelo]

Where does it say it's exclusive to Wii?

[sdp]

Well but what i mean is if it'd be like Smash bros or what I consider 2.5d fighting games like DoA. In fact I dont' consider smash much of a fighting game.

While a smash like game might be funner I'm not sure it'd fit the turtles unless it was a very wacky game. And before someone responds saying you can't have a 2d like fighting game like street fighter with four players thats not true, its been attempted in the past like Guilty Gear DS and it didn't come out so bad.


Was Mutant Melee as bad as reviews mention? To me it seemed like a watered down Power Stone game which are very fun.

[CyberCubed]

Hopefully this game isn't as bad as "Mutant Melee" which came out on the PS2/Gamecube/Xbox last generation. Check ninjaturtles.com or IGN/Gamespot if you're unfamiliar with the game.

I hope this one turns out good.

[Peanut]

Just Wii, thus far, which is slightly disconcerting. Most Wii only 3rd party software is shovelware of the worst magnitude, especially when it's a franchise game.

Well but what i mean is if it'd be like Smash bros or what I consider 2.5d fighting games like DoA. In fact I dont' consider smash much of a fighting game.

While a smash like game might be funner I'm not sure it'd fit the turtles unless it was a very wacky game. And before someone responds saying you can't have a 2d like fighting game like street fighter with four players thats not true, its been attempted in the past like Guilty Gear DS and it didn't come out so bad.

DoA is a 3D fighter, you can move in all directions, it's not on a single plane.

And just because it's developed by former Smash devs doesn't mean it'll be Smash Bros-esque in any way.

[Roseangelo]

The only source at this point is Nintendo Power, so of course they're not going to mention it being on non-Nintendo platforms.

Murphy said forever ago that this game was going to be on all platforms, so I expect that it will be. There's no logic in it being Wii-only anyways.

[Jester]

Hopefully this game isn't as bad as "Mutant Melee" which came out on the PS2/Gamecube/Xbox last generation. Check ninjaturtles.com or IGN/Gamespot if you're unfamiliar with the game.

I hope this one turns out good.
Man, I obviously don't know from good games, because I had the PC version and loved it, despite the difficulty.

[Peanut]

The only source at this point is Nintendo Power, so of course they're not going to mention it being on non-Nintendo platforms.

Murphy said forever ago that this game was going to be on all platforms, so I expect that it will be. There's no logic in it being Wii-only anyways.

Nintendo Power isn't run by Nintendo, it's licensed to a third party. They mention multi-platform releases all the time. Now, I haven't seen the article in question, but if it's not stated specifically that it's Wii exclusive, then it probably isn't.

There's a ton of logic to it, actually. Wii development is cheap and easy. Developing something for the 360 or PS3 takes significantly more money and time. A lot of "well worn" franchise games come out exclusively to Wii for a reason.

[Kid Icarus]

Not to mention Wii's insane userbase. Isn't that how it works? What ever system has the larger install base gets the random single platform games?

I heard the news of this game and had to come back to post about it.

I haven't been excited for something TMNT since they launched the new Tales comics.

Hopefully with this development team it'll turn out to be more then just playable.

And Peanut... Holy cow, 10,000 posts?

[Peanut]

7 years is a long time, my friend. I just broke it sometime last week. And it's good to see a VG section veteran back.

[tOkKa]

-->> ..you guys make this cranky, sad ol grizzled snapper so happy..

[A little *too* Raph]

More details (from GoNintendo)


“While this is a licensed game, it’s not tied to any movie or TV show…for this game to succeed on its own it needs to be a great game.” - Ubisoft producer

http://gonintendo.com/?p=65881

So I am hoping that they arent going to use 2007 movie-esque models for the turtles. If they do, I will buy a copy and set it on fire in the ubisoft parking lot.

[Ninjinister]

So I am hoping that they arent going to use 2007 movie-esque models for the turtles. If they do, I will buy a copy and set it on fire in the ubisoft parking lot.

Or... you could just play it regardless. What if the game ends up being the most rockin' thing you've ever played?

Man, I obviously don't know from good games, because I had the PC version and loved it, despite the difficulty.

Damn skippy. I've got it on both Gamecube AND PC.

[A little *too* Raph]

Or... you could just play it regardless. What if the game ends up being the most rockin' thing you've ever played?


I never said the copy I burn would be the ONLY copy I buy ;)

And honestly I really am hoping that it will be a great game. If the game is good enough I can overlook the character models

[VaughnMichael]

I honestly hope it has characters from all over the tmnt universe and is a fighting game not some party game like smash bros.
I'm willing to buy a video game system and this game if they finally bring out a tmnt game worth buying again.

[syk_skillz]

Good news indeed :)
To bad we have to wait 9-10 months for it because the wait is going to kill me.
I was about to sell my Wii because it was collecting dust but this just changed my mind.

[Ninjinister]

I'm pretty sure it's going to be more like Smash Bros. (which is a fighting game, for Chrissake), than a more traditional 2.5 fighter like Street Fighter IV. After all, have you tried playing something more traditional with four players simultaneously? It would end up like Guilty Gear Isuka... >.<

[Dr. Doom]

Hopefully it won't be Wii exclusive. Being on other consoles would make it much more likely to not be terrible. And I am going into this under the assumption that it will be terrible, so prove me wrong Ubisoft, please.

[VaughnMichael]

I'm pretty sure it's going to be more like Smash Bros. (which is a fighting game, for Chrissake), than a more traditional 2.5 fighter like Street Fighter IV. After all, have you tried playing something more traditional with four players simultaneously? It would end up like Guilty Gear Isuka... >.<
I've only played the first smash bro's. and it was more like collecting points and hopping around on blocks than your typical fighting game to me, it didn't do anything for me. *shruggs*
It may end up being cool but I'd much rather have some all out battle like tournament fighters made with tuns of characters.
I really don't play video games anymore as I don't have the time for them as most of them are very time consuming.
But if this is cool I'll have put some time aside from it.
Pics and what not will make up my mind for me.

[Dr. Doom]

Chances are that this will far more likely resemble a Smash Bros/Powerstone type of fighter than it will any sort of traditional 2D or 3D fighting game.

[Ninjinister]

Chances are that this will far more likely resemble a Smash Bros/Powerstone type of fighter than it will any sort of traditional 2D or 3D fighting game.

Aye, as I said before, it would be hard to do a traditional fighter with four simultaneous players.

[tOkKa]

-->> .. two words gave me faith in this what i read there..


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http://www.gonein60fps.net/images/ninja-gaiden-2-20070911100225054.jpg

[Ninjinister]

First thing about this game that I'd like confirmed is the title. Second are characters. While I'm 100% certain Donatello, Leonardo, Michelangelo, and Raphael will be in it, and Shredder is almost a given (he hasn't been in every game - compare the Genesis Tournament Fighters and the GBA TMNT for example), everyone else is up in the air. Will it have Bebop and Rocksteady? Hun? Baxter Stockman? Karai? Generic Foot Soldiers? Dragon Lord? Savanti Romero? Slash? Radical? Splinter? Silver Sentry? Nobody? Multiflex? Slashuur? Some all-new, original characters? The possibilities are almost endless!

[ThirdMarioBro]

The fact that the TV show just got canceled and there are no movies planned/announced/waiting in the immediate future makes me excited about this project. They've got the talent to produce something outstanding, but they also have the freedom to take it in any stylistic direction they please because there is nothing to cross-promote at the moment. Consider me jazzed.

Chances are that this will far more likely resemble a Smash Bros/Powerstone type of fighter than it will any sort of traditional 2D or 3D fighting game.

That is exactly what I'm hoping for.

[TerranigmaFreak]

-->> .. two words gave me faith in this what i read there..


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http://www.gonein60fps.net/images/ninja-gaiden-2-20070911100225054.jpg

I got 2 words that doesn't give me faith in this project.

Ubi Soft

[Ninjinister]

I got 2 words that doesn't give me faith in this project.

Ubi Soft

Question: Why?

[Peanut]

Ubisoft is a fantastic publisher. And either way, it has nothing to do with who's publishing, but who's developing, and all signs point to a pretty great team being assembled to work on this game.

[TerranigmaFreak]

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b40/JeninPA/51yFVLACANL__SL500_AA280_.jpg

Does that answer your question? Ubi Soft is the biggest supporter of shovelware, even more than EA.

Ubisoft is a fantastic publisher. And either way, it has nothing to do with who's publishing, but who's developing, and all signs point to a pretty great team being assembled to work on this game.

What are the odds of this team being the ones who came up with all the ideas? I know publishing usually happens with a team showing the publisher their game and concept in hopes of getting funding for their game, but with TMNT, UbiSoft is the one who owns the license right now. You think some Japanese team will suddenly get together and say: "Hey, let's make a game based on a popular American franchise like TMNT!"

It's probably UbiSoft coming up with some garbage like Turtlez Fecez and shopped around for a team to make the game.

I'd love to be wrong, because I want a good TMNT game as much as the next guy. I'm just not a optimistic as you guys.

[Ninjinister]

Does that answer your question? Ubi Soft is the biggest supporter of shovelware, even more than EA.

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2478/13347tj5.jpg

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the awesomeness.

[Peanut]

They publish that sh*t so they can release fantastic next-gen games like Assassin's Creed and Prince of Persia. I'm all for filling the Wii with trash in order to make excellent games for the platforms that matter. That being said, even if a team is placed on a specific project, if they're a good team, they'll get the job done.

I'm not saying I'm enthusiastic at all. This is a third-party Wii fighting game based on a dead franchise. The news of some talented developers working on it is good, but not enough to overwhelm my sense of dread.

[thebrownranger]

I'm not going crazy over this right now, but if they take the tone from Genesis' Tournament Fighters, I'll be pretty damn happy. Some load of blood n' guts would be nice for a Teen or Mature rating. If its only on Wii, well that just sucks for me 'cause I'm a 360 player.



http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2478/13347tj5.jpg

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the awesomeness.

Yeah this game is such a disappointment for me. More like the Prince of Pittsburgh to me.

[TerranigmaFreak]

For every good game, there's about 10-20 bad ones from UbiSoft.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1614/prince20of20persia20theas4.jpg

They publish that sh*t so they can release fantastic next-gen games like Assassin's Creed and Prince of Persia.

What? This is why we get so much trash this generation.

[Ninjinister]

For every good game, there's about 10-20 bad ones from UbiSoft.


You can say that about any company.

[Peanut]

Your argument is a game that hasn't even come out yet, and actually isn't supposed to be terrible in any way?

Either way, you're missing the entire point. This is being developed by a group of developers Ubisoft actively went seeking for and obtained. These are developers from the biggest ninja-based action game, and the biggest party fighting game of all-time. These aren't d-class devs, working on shovelware.

[TerranigmaFreak]

You can say that about any company.

Name 20 bad games from Valve.

[Peanut]

Valve is a small developer/publisher who releases one or two games a year. Your ignorance is beginning to shine through. Typical uninformed masses.

[Ninjinister]

Name 20 bad games from Valve.

Good God, where's your off switch? I don't even think Valve has made 20 games.

[sdp]

It can really go both ways be a great game or be a horrible game. To me as long as it has a cool theme for lack of a better word and decent gameplay, I will love it.

I'm just being positive since it does have the chance for it to be a good game but of course it could be terrible but I'm not going to focus on that. I mean I'm sure most of us here aren't expecting the next smash bros or street fighter but as long as its fun and has the license we like, makes up for it.


Aye, as I said before, it would be hard to do a traditional fighter with four simultaneous players.
It can be and has been done before though. I agree I wouldn't want it to be that way though.

Just Wii, thus far, which is slightly disconcerting. Most Wii only 3rd party software is shovelware of the worst magnitude, especially when it's a franchise game.
Thats a generalization though license games are usually not that great its always been that way since the NES days.

DoA is a 3D fighter, you can move in all directions, it's not on a single plane.
And just because it's developed by former Smash devs doesn't mean it'll be Smash Bros-esque in any way.
bad example, though the mroe I think about it its definitely going to be a smash clone. Its not necessarily a bad thing I just don't think it fits the TMNT universe but could be wrong. a 4 player 2d fighter is very unlikely.




Murphy said forever ago that this game was going to be on all platforms, so I expect that it will be. There's no logic in it being Wii-only anyways.
There is plenty of logic for it being Wii-only like sales of the wii, how much more it costs to make a next-gen title etc.

Not to mention it being Wii only means its less likely to be a crappy game they want to port into as many consoles as possible. Other license exclusively on the Wii include SW Clone Wars and Speed Racer.

[Peanut]

Thats a generalization though license games are usually not that great its always been that way since the NES days.

It's the truth. Even with mediocre third-party licensed games like Spider-Man 3, the Wii version is always a complete disaster.

Not to mention it being Wii only means its less likely to be a crappy game they want to port into as many consoles as possible. Other license exclusively on the Wii include SW Clone Wars and Speed Racer.

This...this doesn't make any sense. It flies in the face of what is undeniable fact. You even gave two perfect examples.

[Ninjinister]

Okay, here's the rundown on how this game is flowing through my head:

We know squat about it so far. We don't know if it will pull characters from one universe, multiple universes, or create its own. We don't know anybody in it except for the four Turtles. We don't know the art direction for the characters and environments. We don't even know, 100% for sure, whether it's going to be an action fighter like Smash Bros., or a more traditional one in the vein of Street Fighter.

We can speculate all we like, but at this point, it would be silly to judge it. We can predict whether we think we will enjoy it or not based on what we know, but there's just too little data on it to be able to say for certain.

Anybody who's been playing video games as long as I have knows that you can't judge a game solely on what console it's being released on, or what companies are involved. Every console has its merits and disadvantages, and companies have several different development teams that work on different kinds of projects. You don't see Ed Boon's crew working on everything Midway puts out (or anything at all, possibly these days, for that matter, ha ha). Kojima Productions doesn't have a hand in everything Konami was made. And in regards to "shovelware", companies churn them out because they're relatively easy to make, and they sell. Wii and DS are popular dumping grounds for these games because they're easier to develop for, and they have high install bases. It doesn't mean that everything released by said company or on said console is going to be crap. Or even every development team. Even if they had their usual "shovelware" team on this, it's not a guarantee that it'll be rubbish.

And as far as we know at this point, this game will only be on the Wii. It doesn't mean that it won't be on other consoles, it's just that it's the only one confirmed for now. Remember, MegaMan 9 was once (twice!) said to be a Wii exclusive.

[sdp]

It's the truth. Even with mediocre third-party licensed games like Spider-Man 3, the Wii version is always a complete disaster.
Thats when they decided to port games to every console and the Wii gets stuck with the PS2 version with random waggle controls. When games are developed as Wii titles they usually come out fairly well, that example is just a crappy PS2 game with waggle controls which is the main problem for the wii. Even the gamecube was a lot more powerful and got better looking games than the ps2..

However there are plenty of exceptions to the "licensed games are crap" rule, like capcom's disney games, chronicles of riddick, etc. Also IMO licensed games only need one thing to be good, be entertaining. People buy a licensed game to play as their favorite character in a universe they like, as long as the game isn't broken or horrible the fan will be happy, they aren't expecting it to be the next Super Mario Galaxy. Which is why sometimes reviews aren't accurate, if you don't like said franchise maybe the game is nothing special for you but if you do like the franchise then fans may like it a lot.





This...this doesn't make any sense. It flies in the face of what is undeniable fact. You even gave two perfect examples.
Have you played either game?
Clone Wars and Speed Racer were pretty good games, look them up on metacritic, they got mixed reviews but they weren't slammed like most licensed games.

[Peanut]

Yes, I've played them. Yes, they are both junk. You don't have to attempt to lecture me on the ins and outs of the videogame industry. I think I have myself covered.

Saying there are exceptions to the licensed based games being sh*t argument is just that. It's an exception, and a very rare one at that. The facts and evidence are right in front of you. Third-party licensed Wii games are usually a complete load of junk. Most Wii games are absolute throwaway trash as it is, adding a license to it is only going to make it worse, in most cases.

This really just sounds like a huge case of denial to me.

Anybody who's been playing video games as long as I have knows that you can't judge a game solely on what console it's being released on, or what companies are involved.

Then you need to play games longer, or take a bigger and more in-depth look at the industry. People can try and give games the benefit of the doubt all they like, but the fact is, more often than not, you can get a pretty good reading on how a game will turn out simply by looking at who's involved in it.

Certainly, you can't outright say "this game will be complete sh*t," far from it, but what you can do is make an educated guess, and set your expectations accordingly. Just take a look at the TMNT games released last-gen. They were mediocre at best. And everyone here can b*tch and moan about it, but they were. Now, we transport the license to the Wii, a console infamous with it's amount of absolutely sh*tty third-party games, exclusive or not. Look at the track record here, how is it possible be positive about this possible outcome? The only reason this game hasn't already fallen off my charts is because of the caliber of developers working on it.

The best news I can hope for is a multi-platform release. At least that way, we'll be guaranteed the ability to play the game without the inevitably horrific waggle controls.

[Ninjinister]

Then you need to play games longer, or take a bigger and more in-depth look at the industry. People can try and give games the benefit of the doubt all they like, but the fact is, more often than not, you can get a pretty good reading on how a game will turn out simply by looking at who's involved in it.



I think 20+ years of playing them and following the industry is enough to offer my own valid opinion. I try not to pigeonhole things just because of the history that's gathered behind it. What I wrote out was merely thinking out loud; it wasn't directed towards anyone at all. And besides, weren't you in the "Just because Ubisoft develops some crap and is publishing this game doesn't mean this will be useless" camp a page ago? That was the driving force behind what I was saying; it's not going to innately fail because of the name printed in the bottom-right of the game's case. I also was defending the Wii a bit because of the almost 20 consoles I own (including the 360 that is technically mine but not yet in my possession), it's number three of my favourites list - but that was just a little bit.

The bizarre thing about this, is between this and other places I've seen, I haven't seen this much arguing about something nobody involved knows anything about since the "Nintendo showed squat on the DS - it's going to rock!" vs. "Sony showed quite a bit of what the PSP is capable of - it's going to suck!" While I can't comment on either, having not ever owned either, and having playing each one very little - both have had massive surges of popularity. But that's besides the point. Way too much drama on something this arcane, even for the internet. All I know is I've successfully got half of my office pre-ordering this motha.

[Peanut]

And besides, weren't you in the "Just because Ubisoft develops some crap and is publishing this game doesn't mean this will be useless" camp a page ago?

I was speaking about the developers, not the company making it. And of course this topic is going to be bigger here than other places, it's a Ninja Turtles message board.

I also was defending the Wii a bit because of the almost 20 consoles I own (including the 360 that is technically mine but not yet in my possession), it's number three of my favourites list - but that was just a little bit.

SIGH. So, the amount of consoles you own = knowledge of the industry. I'll keep that in mind.

All I know is I've successfully got half of my office pre-ordering this motha.

SIGH again.

[ThirdMarioBro]

The best news I can hope for is a multi-platform release. At least that way, we'll be guaranteed the ability to play the game without the inevitably horrific waggle controls.

I hope so as well. Technically, it is possible the title could wind up multi-platform seeing as I doubt Nintendo Power would actively go out of their way to promote PS3/360 versions actually existing since they know anybody with the ability would sh*t-can the Wii version as fast as they could for twin analog sticks.

[Ninjinister]

SIGH. So, the amount of consoles you own = knowledge of the industry. I'll keep that in mind.


When did I even say that? Odds bodkins, do you just skim other poster's paragraphs and pick out things that you can argue about? I had said that within my post where I was thinking out loud, I backed up the Wii a little bit because I like it. I like the Wii. Period. That had nothing to do with knowing the industry. NOTHING! You defend what you like in the Video Games section all the time. How is this any different?

And of course this topic is going to be bigger here than other places, it's a Ninja Turtles message board.


What in Sam Hill did this have to do with anything I said?

[Peanut]

When did I even say that? Odds bodkins, do you just skim other poster's paragraphs and pick out things that you can argue about? I had said that within my post where I was thinking out loud, I backed up the Wii a little bit because I like it. I like the Wii. Period. That had nothing to do with knowing the industry. NOTHING! You defend what you like in the Video Games section all the time. How is this any different?

What in Sam Hill did this have to do with anything I said?

Throwing in the number of consoles you own just seemed unnecessary and looked like an e-peen move. Amount of consoles backs up your knowledge type of thing. Sorry about that, old chap. Didn't mean to get you angry.

And that other part got f*cked up as I was writing it. It was supposed to reference something you said in your second paragraph. I thought you had said that you haven't seen so much arguing over something no one knew anything about etc. etc.. I meant to take it out, but I guess I left it up there.

[Ninjinister]

Throwing in the number of consoles you own just seemed unnecessary and looked like an e-peen move. Amount of consoles backs up your knowledge type of thing. Sorry about that, old chap. Didn't mean to get you angry.

And that other part got f*cked up as I was writing it. It was supposed to reference something you said in your second paragraph. I thought you had said that you haven't seen so much arguing over something no one knew anything about etc. etc.. I meant to take it out, but I guess I left it up there.

All right, all right... I'm chilling out... I'm just so used to people just throwing stuff in my face with the "my opinion is right and yours is wrong" chant.... Maybe I just need to go to bed... this has been a long week :p

The console number was basically to give an idea of where it stands in my favourites. If I only owned three or four consoles and indicated that the Wii was my third favorite... well that would look a little silly, no?

And I do admit, yes, my knowledge of the industry is a little rusty these days... I don't have the time or motivation to follow it as closely as I did in the days of yore. But every once in a while I'll still shake a tree and some Nintendo, Microsoft, Valve, Sucker Punch, or something programmers will fall out, or a close friend of the Penny Arcade dudes, and I'll interrogate them for the latest information.

But yeah... the post I did at the top of this page... if anyone else is wondering, I was thinking out loud. Running commentary if you will. Maybe I should have finally logged into one of my old blogs and stuck it there, I don't know. What's there is there.

EDIT: Justification for convincing my co-workers to pre-order this game:

To bind the company as a whole - there are many insanely stupid rivalries between some of the employees, some of us been trying to find a game that most of us would be able to play and enjoy together - you know, like a team building exercise. Five or six guys play World of Warcraft, but most of us hate it. About four or five have been playing Left 4 Dead on PC, but most of us either don't care for that sort of game or don't have powerful enough PCs. One guy has a 360, one guy has a PS3, and everyone else that games has a Wii or something from a previous generation. Since the Wii has a higher install base with the office's employees, we tried looking for a Wii game. Brawl's online makes Baby Jesus cry, and not everyone's into Mario Kart or Animal Crossing. When I mentioned a new TMNT versus fighter for 4 players that supposedly has better online support than Brawl, you could almost see exclamation points popping up above people's heads, ala Metal Gear Solid. Finally, there was something that, even sight unseen, enticed a majority of the game playing staff.

[Archon_Turtle]

e-peen

This is my word of the week. XD

[trustno1]

i remember murphy saying on his blog that it was being made for the wii

[IamtheKnight]

I wish that it was made for the 360 -_-

[Ninjinister]

I wish that it was made for the 360 -_-

That's the thing, dude, we don't know for a fact if it will or won't be on 360. There's been no announcement yet.

[VaughnMichael]

I love the holiday season, such happy folks.:D

[Archon_Turtle]

That's the thing, dude, we don't know for a fact if it will or won't be on 360. There's been no announcement yet.

I can pretty much promise you it will get ports to just about everything. You can't properly milk a license without porting the game after all! :-P

[Ninjinister]

I can pretty much promise you it will get ports to just about everything. You can't properly milk a license without porting the game after all! :-P

That may be, but we don't have an official announcement from anybody yet.

[Kid Icarus]

I wish that it was made for the 360 -_-
Welcome to my life, N64-GCN era.

Something people need to keep in mind is the reason the 3rd party Wii games are usually total ****. It's the developers the publisher puts behind it. They've gotten into this mindset that "oh, hey, we'll go ahead and put our crappiest team behind this game!"

It pry also helps when you have both Reggie and Shiggy slamming publishers for doing that ****, but it's not going to be fixed over night.

Anyway, lets wait and see what this game's all about before we rip it apart. We don't even know what the play style is... I'll be more then happy to slam the developers and Ubisoft if they screw this one up.

[shuriken]

Anyway, lets wait and see what this game's all about before we rip it apart. We don't even know what the play style is... I'll be more then happy to slam the developers and Ubisoft if they screw this one up.

That was beautiful. :cry: I totally agree.

[Ninjinister]

I'm still trying to ponder (and am hotly anticipating) any hint of the game's cast. Konami's efforts were rather... *ahem* unusual, to say the least, in scope (April cosplaying as Blaze Fielding, Aska, Sisyphus, Sleeg, Monster). Will this game repeat the trend? Or will it have more well-known characters and variations thereof?

[trustno1]

i am half hoping that it will be based in the comics as the cast in that particular universe seems to best suit a fighting game especially if they do not want it tied to a movie or anything like that. you could have triceratons radical complete carnage metalhead shredder karai foot soldiers foot elite marlin rat king robobaxter renet savanti romero gameraph minidon in his robot body utroms leatherhead. the list could go on for ages

[bmxbandit]

really hope this comes out on the PS3 as well. then they could have a virtual sewer to hang out in while setting up games playing Home.

[Kid Icarus]

i am half hoping that it will be based in the comics as the cast in that particular universe seems to best suit a fighting game especially if they do not want it tied to a movie or anything like that. you could have triceratons, radical, complete carnage, metalhead, shredder, karai, foot soldiers, foot elite, marlin, rat king, robobaxter, renet, savanti romero, gameraph, minidon in his robot body, utroms, and leatherhead. the list could go on for ages

Commas buddy. Commas.

I'd love to see some Triceratons and Metalhead.

[Kendamu]

Hopefully it won't be Wii exclusive. Being on other consoles would make it much more likely to not be terrible. And I am going into this under the assumption that it will be terrible, so prove me wrong Ubisoft, please.
Actually, making it a Wii exclusive will make it much less likely to be terrible. I really don't want "a PS2 game with bad waggle." I'd rather have a Wii game.

[StealthNinjaScyther]

http://gonintendo.com/?p=66255

- Sept. 09 is the planned release date, but that may not happen
- ‘dark and edgy’ visuals
- ‘We were guaranteed that our ears wouldn’t have to suffer through endless loops of Turtles quips like ‘Slice and dice!’
- no specific generation of TMNT being referenced
- more details about fighting that we don’t know yet
- swing off ledges to do jump-kicks and more
- multiple control schemes (Wiimote, Wiimote and Nunchuk)
- motion controls, but not many
- taunts
- items
- change match settings
- story mode iss ‘not a sidescroller like Subspace Emissary’
- “4 player online is also planned, and the developers are working hard to deliver a smooth experience free of the issues that hindered Brawl. They also want to add something unique to the mix, so expect a new twist or two.”

I like how the game is sounding so far.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Saw the pics. It's essentially Smash Bros from what I can tell, but with Turtles. Win. The lack of a "specific" TMNT license makes this appealing.

[sdp]

New details:

Peter Laird worked on the story but its not like the Sub story mode of SSBB.

Some other details:
* The CG TMNT movie has the most individual influence on the game, but the comics and cartoon influenced the game, as well.
* The Team Ninja folks had worked on all of the DOA games (except XBV1/2) and Ninja Gaiden series (not DS game).
* Started planning in October 2007 and actual work in January 2008.
* Nothing from previous games is really being added just because it was in the previous games. i.e. Not trying to recreate Tournament Fighters or TMNT IV.
* Game being designed for Wiimote+Nunchuk but multiple control schemes being considered. Wiimote-only? Yes. GameCube? Unknown.

[AquaParade]

Saw the pics. It's essentially Smash Bros from what I can tell, but with Turtles. Win. The lack of a "specific" TMNT license makes this appealing.

Can I ask where you saw them?....If so, where?;)

[Ecto Jedi]

What pics? WHAT PICS!?

[gobo]

I think he meant the pics of the article. Though, I'd be happy to be wrong about that.

[Kendamu]

So, who wants to provide some pics?

[Ninjinister]

This is the only time since I've canceled my subscription that I wish I still received Nintendo Power >.<

[Mutated Turtle]

uh? whats nintendo power?

[Kendamu]

uh? whats nintendo power?

Nintendo's official magazine for the USA.

[sdp]

no, this is Nintendo Power:

http://nzgamer.com/oldimages/features-349-image1.jpg


Now you're playing with power.

[Quiet_Guy]

Where are the pics someone mentioned??

[Peanut]

God damn it, Lucas! You can't do that kind of stuff here! These kids will loose their marbles.

[Kendamu]

I was at Books-A-Million today but it seems that the only gaming magazine that they don't carry is Nintendo Power. Maybe if I hit up Wal-Mart sometime soon I'll see if the article has any pics.

Until then, I'll keep creeping around online in hopes that I find some pics.

[Peanut]

Nintendo Power took a hit when it went third-party. It has some pretty bad distribution now. Either way, wait a week and it'll start turning up everywhere.

[Kendamu]

Nintendo Power took a hit when it went third-party. It has some pretty bad distribution now. Either way, wait a week and it'll start turning up everywhere.
Yeah, I get'cha. However, I'd like to make it a little shorter than a week if I can help it.

EDIT:

Well, this is the first thing I got.

http://i34.tinypic.com/2nup2xg.jpg

Comes from http://infinitehollywood.blogspot.com/

I found that on http://www.mikeystmnt.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4421

So, at least I know what cover I'm looking for now. Hopefully there are pics in the magazine worth putting on here.

[VaughnMichael]

Am I the only one sick and tired of those lizard @ss lookin' movie tmnt?:|

[A little *too* Raph]

Am I the only one sick and tired of those lizard @ss lookin' movie tmnt?:|


no. at least the pupils are gone.

[VaughnMichael]

no. at least the pupils are gone.
Guess thats a small good thing, and oh thanks for sharing Goongasnootch.

[Ninjinister]

Am I the only one sick and tired of those lizard @ss lookin' movie tmnt?:|

I don't have any problem with the movie designed TMNT. It's just seeing their sculpts being used a godzillion times in the figures that makes me ill.

[VaughnMichael]

I don't have any problem with the movie designed TMNT. It's just seeing their sculpts being used a godzillion times in the figures that makes me ill.
Perhaps that's why I dislike them so much. ;):lol:

[Cipher]

Am I the only one sick and tired of those lizard @ss lookin' movie tmnt?:|I don't mind them. If I'd been buying their likeness in the form of dozens of recent toys, I suppose I might, but since I stay away from the toyline they still seem fresh to me.

To me, the most exciting news about this game is the lack of a specific universe. No matter how good or bad the gameplay turns out, the idea that we could have something like Complete Carnage fighting movie Michelangelo is enough to geek out over.

[AquaParade]

I know I have to be cautious, but I am really excited over this game. The reason: "TMNT Tournament Fighters"
I fell in love with this game when I was younger, so I gotta be excited when I hear about any new tmnt fighting game, and the few details we have gotten so far are actually pretty positive in my eyes. If these are some of the core developers of games like Ninja Gaiden( one of my favorite series of all time ), and Smash Bro's, can't we afford to trust, at least a little bit, that they will put out the best tmnt game in a while? I hope so...

[Kendamu]

I wonder if it'll let you choose between a colored mask or red ones like the comics (obviously barring Raph, of course)?

[gobo]

(obviously barring Raph, of course)?
Not obviously. The Mirage comics depicted their masks as near maroon often enough that if they are all just Raphael with a different weapon, it will look like we're getting short-changed yet again. That wouldn't be cool.

[Newton Gimmick]

Hey all, I see that I've been getting a lot of traffic from the site... So I decided I'd do you guys a solid.

I have a bunch of new pictures over at http://infinitehollywood.blogspot.com/

I'd appreciate it if when you stopped by, you commented on the blog! Adding me to your list of reading would be appreciated too!

I posted some news from the magazine in there as well.

Some other notes, All four TMNT, Splinter and Shredder are confirmed to be in the game.

As of now it's Wii exclusive. Which means it's being developed for the Wii. No need to worry about it being poorly made.

Interactive levels include one where in ancient Japan if you knock over some lamps the entire level catches fire.

Check out more at my website:
http://infinitehollywood.blogspot.com/

[Spitfire]

It's movie style but we knew that already. They said it would be when they mentioned doing a game in the movie style after the first one came out.

Looks promising as long as it's not crap like Mutant Melee.

[Ninjinister]

Freakin' HOT! Thank you!

http://i43.tinypic.com/2ia3gk7.jpg
(Drools at character art on the left)

[Kendamu]

Not obviously. The Mirage comics depicted their masks as near maroon often enough that if they are all just Raphael with a different weapon, it will look like we're getting short-changed yet again. That wouldn't be cool.

Having the option. The option, gobo. I'm not saying, "Hey, put them all in red and give us no way of telling them apart beyond their weapons." I'm saying, "It would be cool if I could pick Leo or something and one of his alternate colors would be him with a red mask. Same goes for any other Turtle other than Raph, who always wore red."

Also, thanks, Newton Gimmick!

[Peanut]

As of now it's Wii exclusive. Which means it's being developed for the Wii. No need to worry about it being poorly made.

lawl

But seriously, I'm pissed at the character designs already.

[Cipher]

I'm not naive enough to assume that the red-masked Turtles to the left of the article are indicative of their inclusion in the game, but damn, I really hope they are.

[VaughnMichael]

lawl

But seriously, I'm pissed at the character designs already.
you and me both bucko, this game doesn't look fresh or exciting at all.

[gobo]

Having the option. The option, gobo.
I think you missed my point, but it wasn't a very important point to make in the first place.

[Quiet_Guy]

Is this issue out now?

[trustno1]

you and me both bucko, this game doesn't look fresh or exciting at all.

it does say the version they are showing is far from complete. i wold say that these screens are all they got to play. i remember seeing screen shots for castlevania on the nintendo 64 a year before it came out and they looked nothing like the final game. if it still looks like this in a years time then i think it will be fair to say it is not fresh or exciting looking ;)

[Ninjinister]

We've known from the beginning that the characters would have been more or less based on their 2007 film counterparts. Nobody should be surprised or really all that disappointed.

[Newton Gimmick]

There's nothing to lawl about. No idea if the game will be good or not, but it's being designed with the Wii in mind. It's being designed under the Smash Brothers Brawl formula and team. A lot of the same concepts as well. Smash Brothers was one of the best fighting games of all time and certainly of recent memory.

So I'm not sure how you can knock it.

The designs I can understand that maybe you don't like. But the graphics look quite impressive, as do the stage designs. Clearly some time has been put into this game. Which makes it much more likely to be a decent game.

[Dr. Doom]

Of all the titles made for the Wii, only very few of them that have been made by 3rd parties are even with taking a **** on. 3rd parties don't generally know how to make games for the Wii and just end up tacking on ******, waggle-centric controls that make playing a chore instead of more fun. Sure, Brawl in an outstanding game. My favorite on the system. But there's now way that the amount of care put into that title is going to be put into this.

I want this game to be great just as much as any of you, if not more, but I remember when the descriptions of the 2007 game made it sound awesome, and look at what a piece of crap that turned out to be.

[Peanut]

Exactly. For once, I don't have anything to add.

[Ninjinister]

There are very few versus fighters that I actually hate enough to refuse to play, so I have no worries on this.

Also: in my book, there has never been a terrible TMNT game. There have been ones that were not as good as the others, but none that plain sucked. And that's not just because "OMG TMNT FAN L0RZ", but because I find them fun still. If it was just because of the license, I would love crap like the Dragon Ball Ultimate Battle 22, Final Bout, and Buto-Retsuden.

[Dragon Turtle]

Freakin' HOT! Thank you!


(Drools at character art on the left)

The art for the article was done by Sean "Cheeks" Galloway (Spectacular Spider-Man, Hellboy Animated).

Is this issue out now?

Yes.


While waiting for the snow truck that never came, I decided to pick up the latest edition of Nintendo Power, so here is the article on the new TMNT Wii game (excuse any typos):

SHELL-SHOCKER!

To kick off our big 2009 preview special, we've got an exclusive sneak peek at a game that's so early it hasn't even been named yet! For now we'll just call it TMNT. A new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle game is always worth at least a raised eyebrow (despite the mixed results of the foursome's last several titles), but when it's a four-player fighting game made by some of the folks who worked on Super Smash Bros. Brawl and former members of Tecmo's famed Team Ninja (who worked on the Ninja Gaiden and Dead or Alive series), then were looking at one of the most exciting stories of the new year.



Seeing is believing

We wouldn't have believed it if we hadn't seen it, but there we were in late November at Ubisofts San Francisco offices, watching turtle-versus-turtle combat. Ubisoft- who will publish the game- had been looking for an opportunity to work with Games Arts, part of the all-star team that developed Brawl under the direction of Super Smash Bros. creator Masahiro Sakurai. The studio became available just as it was time for Ubi to start a new Turtles project to be release in 2009 - the 25th anniversary of TMNT. And then former members of Team Ninja joined the production to officially make this the craziest story we ever heard.

The version of the game that we got to see is very early - it's been in development for just over a year - but it already looks impressive (Ubisoft is aiming for a September '09 release). In fact, the visuals may even surpass the bar set by Brawl; for example, a rooftopd level features a city skyline that is much more detailed then most brawl stages. And we were instantly relieved to see that this isn't meant to be ajust a kids' game. The visuals are dark and edgy for a TMNT title, and we were guaranteed that our ears wouldn't have to suffer through endless loops of Turtles quips like "slice and dice!" during the action. Further, the team wisely avoided tying the game in with any particular iteration of TMNT- it doesn't look exactly like any of the comics, cartoons, or toys.

(It does look exactly like the 2007 movie -DT)


Getting into the Action

As you can probably gather from these screens, the game is quite similar to Brawl in look and feel. There are some differences in the gameplay that we'll get into in qa moment - and some other features that will set TMNT apart that Ubisoft isn't ready to reveal yet - but the action should feel instantly familiar to anyone who's put time into a Super Smash Bros.-style fighting game.

Up to four players can fight at once, and since competing turtles can be tough to distinguish between when the camera is far away, each character is color-coded with a glowing effect. The fighting is what you'd expect: regular moves, special moves, throws and combos. There are also attacks that use the evironment, such as flying kicks off of walls, or attacks while hanging from ledges. In true ninja style, you can run short distances up walls, and some stages have poles that you can grab and swing on for higher jumps and more-punishing jump-kicks.

There will be multiple control schemes to choose from; we can confirm both Wii-remote and -nunchuck and remote only options. No word yet on whether a Gamecube controller will work, but a new control scheme is said to be in development for advanced players. otion controls will be used, but not extensively- don't expect to be swinging your remote constantly for common attacks. We can also report that taunts are in the game (we saw Leonardo mock his opponents by spinning his swords in the air) and that items will play a role in the fighting (although the only one we were able to catch a glimps of was a health restoring pizza).

Players each have a life meter that depletes when they take damage, and it's possible to be KO'ed instantly by falling off the screen (plus match rules can be customized). the game will have agenerous roster of characters pulled from the turtles' long history (we've been told Mirage Studios, which owns the TMNT brand, has been involved with the character-selection process), but so far we've been able to peek at only the turtles themselves and Splinter, their rat sensei.

Among the game's various modes and matche types (most of which are still a closely guarded secret) is a story mode. All we could get out of Ubi is that it won't be a side-scoller like Brawl's Subspace Emmisarry, and that Peter Laird- cocreator of TMNT- worked on the story. Fou-player online battles are also planned, and the developers are working hard to deliver a smooth experience free of the issues that hindered brawl. They also want to add something unique to the mix, so expect a new twist or two.

Beautiful Battlegrounds.

Finally, we were really impressed by the games stages. We got to check out two of them, and they both looked as though they could hang with the best Brawl had to offer, thanks to lots of environmental interaction and plenty of visual detail. The first stage we saw was a gorgeous rooftop battle against a detailed city skyline, featuring a water tower that could be busted open to send water gushing out at opponents, an electric sign that zapped whoever got knocked into it, lots of long falls between the buildings, and poles to swing on for sky-high acrobatics. The next battle took place in the sewers and started in a small, confined area with water flowing along the ground. But when someone beat on a giant hatch on the left side of the room, it broke open and unleashed a tidal wave that pushed everyone into the stage's second area, a vertical chamber with slippery platforms and a crocodile that popped out at random to chomp on unsuspecting victims.

We haven't been this excited about the turtles in years. If the developers can deliver on the promise of what we've seen so far, fighting fans will have something pretty special to look forward to in the back half of '09. Ubisoft tells us the development team is determined to set a new standard for the genre, and that the fighting may end up being even deeper then Brawl's. If they can pull that off, the whoa- cowabunga, dude.

[Ninjinister]

The fact that Mirage is reaching back into the TMNT's history to choose characters is a bit comforting. Hopefully it's not just Peter, but also guys like Murph, Ryan, Dan, et cetera, that will choose ones from outside of the Mirage, 2003, and 2007's canons.

[Jester]

I small Armagon and Verminator X...if the ask Murph. Them and some of the Mutanimals.

[Blade Raider]

This is the best TMNT news I've seen in ages! Only thing I'm disliking is the seemly reuse of the movie game models. Plus, this is the first thing for the 25th anniversary that actually looks...GOOD!

Here's hoping Ubi Soft makes this good:thyper:

[AquaParade]

Some of this looks really cool to me so far, but am I the only one who think the pics look kinda lackluster so far?

[VaughnMichael]

Some of this looks really cool to me so far, but am I the only one who think the pics look kinda lackluster so far?
Nope...you're not alone. It doesn't even look like a new video game.
What's with tmnt getting sh1t games since 2k3.
I'll go back and play the old video games any day but once I done with the modern tmnt games I handed them to another person like my little sister.

[tOkKa]

http://www.youbuynow.com/img/items/121390086641155600.jpg

[Blade Raider]

That is ironic:lol:

...in a sad way, I guess...

[tOkKa]

That is ironic:lol:

...in a sad way, I guess...

-->> ..little bit in a bad way , maybe in a good way in some regards.

..

:ohwell:

[Newton Gimmick]

The pics don't do it justice. It looks really good. Yes, they're using a lot of the same samples for the characters from the last game, but they've been very nicely polished.

Again, check out the Aligator. It's very impressive. They repeatedly said the graphics are better than Brawl's.

I'd also add that they said several control schemes were being added, which means it may end up like Brawl as well. I doubt we'll see lots of "waggle" tossed in.

[Samhain]

this games gonna be awesome!!

[AquaParade]

NintendoPower commented that they can't....comment:lol:...on this being ported to any other system just yet...but I have a little feeling that us 360 and PS3 owners just may be getting our own tmnt games:D.

[Mecha Cow]

Let's get one thing out of the way first: this isn't going to be 'better than Brawl'. That said, it looks surprisingly decent. Cautiously optimistic for now.

[Dragon Turtle]

What's with tmnt getting sh1t games since 2k3.
I'll go back and play the old video games any day but once I done with the modern tmnt games I handed them to another person like my little sister.

Like many Japanese developers, Konami has had a lackluster track record when it comes to producing 3D action titles, it's not something unique to the turtle titles, and Ubisoft's last TMNT offerings were typical movie tie in games, produced in a rush to get out onto the store shelves at the same time as the movie hit theaters. At least as far as this title is concerned, it would have been in development for over a year and a half when it is finally released next year, a pretty good amount of time for game development.

I will agree that they should have come up with a new art style, not because I don't like the style of the 2007 movie (I do), but because it would have been better to have it's own distinctive style since it's not supposed to be related to the movie.

The pics don't do it justice. It looks really good. Yes, they're using a lot of the same samples for the characters from the last game, but they've been very nicely polished.

Again, check out the Aligator. It's very impressive. They repeatedly said the graphics are better than Brawl's.



Indeed, the article stated that many of the effects, including anti-aliasing, were not included in this preview copy.

NintendoPower commented that they can't....comment:lol:...on this being ported to any other system just yet...but I have a little feeling that us 360 and PS3 owners just may be getting our own tmnt games:D.

That would be a dream come true, if Ubisoft were designing each turtle game to take advantage of the strengths of each system, even though I would have preferred a traditional 2D/3D fighter, or a side-scrolling brawler, it makes perfect sense to produce a multi-player fighting title in the same vein as Smash Bros. for the Wii.

[The Shelf]

So, I realize that we know next to nothing about this game, but I can't resist getting just a little excited about this game. So... what characters do you guys think should be in it? Here's my top 20:

(For characters that appeared in multiple universes, I give preference to the Mirage comic/2k3 versions; e.g. Leatherhead)
1. Leo
2. Don
3. Raph
4. Mike
5. Splinter
6. Shredder
7. Casey Jones
8. Baxter Stockman
9. Leatherhead
10. Rat King
11. Foot Elite
12. Triceraton
13. Karai
14. Hun
15. Nobody
16. Krang
17. Bebop
18. Rocksteady
19. Armaggon
20. April (mostly because we need a little more female presence than just Karai)

EDIT: Woops, forgot about...
21. Fugitoid
22. Yoshi

[Blade Raider]

So, I realize that we know next to nothing about this game, but I can't resist getting just a little excited about this game. So... what characters do you guys think should be in it? Here's my top 20:

(For characters that appeared in multiple universes, I give preference to the Mirage comic/2k3 versions; e.g. Leatherhead)
1. Leo
2. Don
3. Raph
4. Mike
5. Splinter
6. Shredder
7. Casey Jones
8. Baxter Stockman
9. Leatherhead
10. Rat King
11. Foot Elite
12. Triceraton
13. Karai
14. Hun
15. Nobody
16. Krang
17. Bebop
18. Rocksteady
19. Armaggon
20. April (mostly because we need a little more female presence than just Karai)

EDIT: Woops, forgot about...
21. Fugitoid
22. Yoshi
I agree mostly (Don't think Fugitoid would be much of a fighter though. Maybe just a NPC.), but let's add Tokka, Rahzar, and Slash (Slash would be an easy Tokka clone)

[The Shelf]

I agree mostly (Don't think Fugitoid would be much of a fighter though. Maybe just a NPC.), but let's add Tokka, Rahzar, and Slash (Slash would be an easy Tokka clone)

Clearly you've never read Volume 4. ;)

I forgot about those 3 too. They would definitely be good additions.

[Dragon Turtle]

Metalhead, Ninjara, Mondo Gecko, and Savanti Romero would make good additions as well.

Usagi Yojimbo and Marshal Moo Montana can be hidden characeters.

[Blade Raider]

Metalhead, Ninjara, Mondo Gecko, and Savanti Romero would make good additions as well.

Usagi Yojimbo and Marshal Moo Montana can be hidden characeters.
Metalhead would be great! Or at the very lest Turtle-Bot from 2k3. I wouldn't the others either.

I'm not sure if Usagi will be in it since he ain't a TMNT charater, but I think he's been in TMNT games before, so maybe.

EDIT: I'd also like to see Hothead, Chrome Dome, and Wingnut, but I'd doubt any other than Wingnut. And if this is really using characters from everywhere, NM characters anyone? Venus, Bonesteel, or at least alt costumes for the Turtles with the NM designs.

[Kendamu]

Let's get one thing out of the way first: this isn't going to be 'better than Brawl'. That said, it looks surprisingly decent. Cautiously optimistic for now.
Actually, in my personal opinion, it might be better than Brawl; the same way I believe Jump Superstars to be better than any Smash Bros. game.

[Blade Raider]

Let's get one thing out of the way first: this isn't going to be 'better than Brawl'. That said, it looks surprisingly decent. Cautiously optimistic for now.
I agree. It hasn't been at work for nearly as long, it's a licenced game, and seeing as it's Ubi Soft, it will most likely have a ton of glitches left in there. However, it still looks fun and as long as it's half as good as Brawl, I'll most likely love it.

[thebrownranger]

lawl

But seriously, I'm pissed at the character designs already.

Totally agree with you man. It looks like sh*t. I'd be at least a little happy if they didn't incorporate the annoying 2007 movie designs. Not at all excited anymore.

[Blade Raider]

Clearly you've never read Volume 4. ;)
Nope and I don't plan on reading it. I find Mirage's comics boring, so I don't read them.

[trustno1]

do you read any of the tales comics? they are far better than vlume 4

[Newton Gimmick]

If it counts for anything, I've gotten about a billion hits from across the globe since I posted up the TMNT story. Seems people's interests are peaked about the Heroes in a halfshell's game.

[Dr. Doom]

Actually, in my personal opinion, it might be better than Brawl

With all due respect, your opinion happens to be 100% wrong in this particular situation, I'm afraid.

[Ninjinister]

With all due respect, your opinion happens to be 100% wrong in this particular situation, I'm afraid.

Not true, oh metal-masked overlord. Opinion cannot be wrong, that is why it is opinion and not fact.

[The Shelf]

With all due respect, your opinion happens to be 100% wrong in this particular situation, I'm afraid.

Clearly you're on the wrong message board. Turtles make everything better! :tparty:

[Newton Gimmick]

I hope it plays like Shaq-Fu.

[Dr. Doom]

Not true, oh metal-masked overlord. Opinion cannot be wrong, that is why it is opinion and not fact.

No....no, I'm pretty sure it's just completely wrong in this context.

[Blade Raider]

I hope it plays like Shaq-Fu.
I'm to scared to google that...

[Newton Gimmick]

Shaq-Fu is better than Brawl in any context.

[Ninjinister]

I'm to scared to google that...

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/3276/shaqfu2hu0.gif

[Peanut]

The last 2 pages of this thread hurt my f*cking brain.

Doom! Away to the VG section! At least there's a semblance of intelligence and game knowledge there.

[Dr. Doom]

Yes, AWAY!!

-=Hisses and absconds into the shadows=-

[Kendamu]

With all due respect, your opinion happens to be 100% wrong in this particular situation, I'm afraid.
Y'know how you are about Brawl? That's how I am about Jump. You're not going to convince me otherwise.

[R-iZZy]

I'm starting to think about the direction of this game now. This game would be so much better if it ran on the Soul Calibur IV engine. Or better yet, Team Ninja members are there developing it already. Why not use the Dead or Alive engine?

And I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'...

[Ninjinister]

And I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'...

Of course, because otherwise, you'd be Super Sayin'.

[TerranigmaFreak]

I'm starting to think about the direction of this game now. This game would be so much better if it ran on the Soul Calibur IV engine. Or better yet, Team Ninja members are there developing it already. Why not use the Dead or Alive engine?

You want breast physics on the turtles, huh?

[Kendamu]

You want breast physics on the turtles, huh?
Maybe that might work better for the females...

[The Shelf]

Maybe? Might? The Soul Calibur fighting system is perfect for a TMNT game, though. I'll settle for a Brawl style game instead, though, as long as it's not crappy.

[R-iZZy]

Of course, because otherwise, you'd be Super Sayin'.
Your joke's fail level is OVER 9,000!!! :x

J/k. But come one, it was a Hurricane Helms reference. WHASUP WIT' DAT?!
You want breast physics on the turtles, huh?
S***, busted. Nothing like bouncing bewbs on chiseled plastrons. :)

I mean I'm somewhat satisfied with this. We get a TMNT game online with a style similar to SSBB (a game I'm online with all the time), so I can see the plus side to getting this game. It won't get stale for me (hopefully). But seriously, it's like The Shelf said, the Soul Calibur fighting engine would be perfect for this game. It's one of the very few games that has perfected weapon-wielding in the fighting genre, and that's something that should be right up a TMNT fighter's alley.

[Ninjinister]

Your joke's fail level is OVER 9,000!!! :x


I had something snarky to say in reply, but your sig is too awesome and it won me over.

I've been fishing for some more info on this with a couple of different venues, and still nothing more than what Nintendo Power's article said. 'Tis a bugger. I'm going to run with Hero's idea, and say that they should do a daily update site like Nintendo did with Brawl. I have fond memories of checking the site first thing when getting into work (back then mornings were relatively slow), and even the lame days were better than nothing (because they became a source of jokes around the office, as sometimes we'd suggest the next update would be "This is a video game!" or "You play this on the Wii!")

[tOkKa]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3237/3150806452_1ba65d223d.jpg?v=0


-->> Went ahead and scanned in the entire article in as hi- a rez as i could allow for those of you unable to purchase the magazine, non-subscribers, or those who just want a sneek peek or what have you.

**The photo set with the N.P. // TMNT Jan.'09 article scans is here ..** (http://www.flickr.com/photos/terrible2z/sets/72157611894456282/)

..enjoy 'em while they are up (( in case someone makes me take 'em down..


( ..if this has already been done, please forgive me. )
>v<

[Ninjinister]

Beat me to it, tOk'. Then again, my version of the scans probably wouldn't have surfaced for a long time, so maybe it's for the best.

[tOkKa]

Beat me to it, tOk'. Then again, my version of the scans probably wouldn't have surfaced for a long time, so maybe it's for the best.

-->> ..i'm sorry,man .. i am ..


i just wanted to get this crap up right away.

:sick:

[Ninjinister]

-->> ..i'm sorry,man .. i am ..


i just wanted to get this crap up right away.

:sick:

Don't sweat it. Like I said, it would probably take me forever. :lol:

[sdp]

Yes, I've played them. Yes, they are both junk. You don't have to attempt to lecture me on the ins and outs of the videogame industry. I think I have myself covered.
Well thats your opinion, you have a MK avatar which has always been a mediocre franchise.

Saying there are exceptions to the licensed based games being sh*t argument is just that. It's an exception, and a very rare one at that. The facts and evidence are right in front of you. Third-party licensed Wii games are usually a complete load of junk. Most Wii games are absolute throwaway trash as it is, adding a license to it is only going to make it worse, in most cases.
This really just sounds like a huge case of denial to me.

Its not that rare of an exception. And any popular console will have tons of shovelware, look at all the ****** PS2/PS1/SNES/NES titles, the Wii is no different and it'd be the same thing if the PS3 was popular. People just like to hate on Nintendo.

Then you need to play games longer, or take a bigger and more in-depth look at the industry. People can try and give games the benefit of the doubt all they like, but the fact is, more often than not, you can get a pretty good reading on how a game will turn out simply by looking at who's involved in it.
This wasn't directed at me but This is not always the case though. Ask any "core" gamer and they'll all tell you of games that got crappy reviews/previews that they love. Its a matter of taste, just because a certain company is developing doesn't mean it'll be good or bad nor does it mean that if a game is hated its a bad game. Look at games like God Hand, hated by all the press/websites yet loved by people.

Certainly, you can't outright say "this game will be complete sh*t," far from it, but what you can do is make an educated guess, and set your expectations accordingly. Just take a look at the TMNT games released last-gen. They were mediocre at best. And everyone here can b*tch and moan about it, but they were. Now, we transport the license to the Wii, a console infamous with it's amount of absolutely sh*tty third-party games, exclusive or not. Look at the track record here, how is it possible be positive about this possible outcome? The only reason this game hasn't already fallen off my charts is because of the caliber of developers working on it.

First of all they are just different times, releasing the "good" turtle games now and they would also be considered mediocre. Beat-em ups were popular in the 90s but there is no way they'll get a good review now.

The Wii gets a lot of "all they get is ****** third party games" which is not an entirely false statement but the Wii also has good/great third party games. Look at the PS3, it doesn't have as much crap but it also does not have a lot more "good" third party games than the Wii. Also I'm sure you're counting plenty of games YOU don't like as ****. Like say trauma center.

The best news I can hope for is a multi-platform release. At least that way, we'll be guaranteed the ability to play the game without the inevitably horrific waggle controls.

Funny, its multi-platform games that are most likely to be bad since they are trying to make it "universal" instead of taking advantage of the strengths of one console.

[Ninjinister]

Jesus flippin' Christ, can we not do this? Seriously, I'm regretting bringing this thread back into the limelight. All of this arguing and opinion bashing was done pages ago. We're talking about this game, this one game, and that's it. Leave well enough alone.

[Spitfire]

Funny, its multi-platform games that are most likely to be bad since they are trying to make it "universal" instead of taking advantage of the strengths of one console.

Out of curiosity I'd love to know what the Wii's strength is? If being a Gamecube with a motion censor stick that barely works is a strength then I give up.

[Leonardo15]

Hi, I thought I should mention that Ubisoft has mostly been more focused on selling their games to Wii instead of the other game consoles like PS3, and Xbox 360. Although, I did see two games for PS3 not too long ago and one was "Prince of Persian or commonly called PoP" and another game I forgot the title name. If you noticed Ubisoft also makes the Petz games too, but not the original PF Magic Petz series 1-4 for the PC. Although they tried adding their own ideas in Petz 5 but they scrapped the orignal ending it, and came up with more realist Dogs and Cats starting over from scratch adding more animals in the mix. All the Petz games currently have been for Wii only a few have been on PS2. So it's unlikely this new TMNT game will make it to the PS3, or XBox 360 consoles.

So far money has been very tight lately, and I haven't been able to buy a Wii since they still fall in the $200 category and they're always sold out before I can get one at Wal-Mart. What makes things worse is that Wal-Mart no longer accepts lay-aways so, I can't pay off a little and buy it later on.

What exactly is Super Smash Bros? What is it about?

The new game sounds promising, but I have no idea what this game is all about besides the TMNT fighting characters and probably each other in a type of brawl.

[Kendamu]

Out of curiosity I'd love to know what the Wii's strength is? If being a Gamecube with a motion censor stick that barely works is a strength then I give up.
If you're gonna make fun of it, get it right. It's two Gamecubes duct taped together with waggle.

[Peanut]

Well thats your opinion, you have a MK avatar which has always been a mediocre franchise.

Its not that rare of an exception. And any popular console will have tons of shovelware, look at all the ****** PS2/PS1/SNES/NES titles, the Wii is no different and it'd be the same thing if the PS3 was popular. People just like to hate on Nintendo.

This wasn't directed at me but This is not always the case though. Ask any "core" gamer and they'll all tell you of games that got crappy reviews/previews that they love. Its a matter of taste, just because a certain company is developing doesn't mean it'll be good or bad nor does it mean that if a game is hated its a bad game. Look at games like God Hand, hated by all the press/websites yet loved by people.

First of all they are just different times, releasing the "good" turtle games now and they would also be considered mediocre. Beat-em ups were popular in the 90s but there is no way they'll get a good review now.

The Wii gets a lot of "all they get is ****** third party games" which is not an entirely false statement but the Wii also has good/great third party games. Look at the PS3, it doesn't have as much crap but it also does not have a lot more "good" third party games than the Wii. Also I'm sure you're counting plenty of games YOU don't like as ****. Like say trauma center.

Funny, its multi-platform games that are most likely to be bad since they are trying to make it "universal" instead of taking advantage of the strengths of one console.

First, the MK comment. Doesn't hurt me at all, especially coming from someone who has an avatar and sig full of SONIC THE F*CKING HEDGEHOG. Way to fail at an insult.

As for the rest, I don't even know where to start, so I won't. You didn't get a lot of what I was saying, but I don't really care. And I love a lot of badly reviewed games, so that argument isn't going to fly, especially considering I tried to champion God Hand around here when it first came out. And yeah, I liked Trauma Center for the first time, on the DS, the Wii game is the same thing with less precision. Which is true for a lot of sh*tty Wii ports.

You can go ahead and defend the Wii all you damn well please, because that's what people who only own a single console do, but I don't give a sh*t anymore. In my opinion, the game has a bigger chance to suck more d*ck as a Wii exclusive than it does as a multi-platform game. STFU.

[sdp]

It wasn't an insult, I enjoy MK somewhat but for someone being so nit-picky it makes no sense for that person to be MK fan counting all the flaws it has. As for my avatar its just something I put up when I registered and haven't changed it, I don't visit this forum often and its been my av/sig for so long I don't really intend to change it. Not to mention they are from the cartoon/comic and not the games. You don't see me rockin' out a sig/avatar from any of the 3D games.

And you don't know where to start :roll:, I understood your "points" perfectly but sure if it makes you happy. Not to mention Trauma Center on the Wii is thought by many reviewers as an improvement.

And I'm no fanboy haven't been since I first grew out of games when I was 14/15. I play games for enjoyment, I don't care about consoles as I do about the games. Which is why I defend the Wii from "Harcore Gamer" fanboys who think they know better. The Wii is fun, yeah it has a lot of flaws but man the 360/PS3 have just as many flaws. I like the PS3 and 360 but I also like the Wii, they all have their pros and cons. I could care less about a game console having HD graphics or Waggle as long as I am playing a game that entertains me. So go ahead and have an angry fit. oh and you're wrong about me only having a Wii aswell.

[Daniel Orduna]

it sucks i have to wait more than u guys¡¡¡or pay a bigg ass bill for shipping


:(

[Dr. Doom]

Thanks for the scans, Tok'.

[Ninjinister]

I'm wondering what the voice cast will be like. Actors from the recent movie? 4Kids actors? A mixed bag? Completely new actors?

[Kendamu]

In my opinion, the game has a bigger chance to suck more d*ck as a Wii exclusive than it does as a multi-platform game. STFU.

In my experience, it's always the multi-platform games that are made with traditional controls in mind that suck on the Wii while the games that were actually made exclusively for the Wii turn out to be pretty good. Usually this kind of problem (Wii exclusive or otherwise) could be fixed by just including Gamecube or Classic Controller support like Muramasa or Brawl.

[Ninjinister]

Why is it every time I post in this thread more of the pro-/anti- Wii debate continues?

[VaughnMichael]

Why is it every time I post in this thread more of the pro-/anti- Wii debate continues?
wii wii wii all the way home.:P

[Blade Raider]

wii wii wii all the way home.:P
That was a Wii bit of a bad pun:lol:

[gobo]

*cleans up the curious trail of Wii Wii leading to VaughnMichael's house*

[Spitfire]

I read the article. I find it funny they say it's not based off anything and then use all movie designs. They also said almost the whole team hadn't seen anything turtles since the old toon till the new movie. Thank god Mirage gets to pick some of the roaster or we'd be screwed. I still don't see why of all the designs to use they pick the horrid movie designs. I could drew better looking turtles with my ass. I'd almost take Lawson designs over the movie ones, at least those look like turtles.

[AquaParade]

^Ya, It's a shame that the article itself had such cool tmnt artwork, but the actual models will be the same as TMNT.
It's kinda a bummer, because all the artwork from the game covers to the actual sprites always looked great during the ol tmnt game days.

[Kendamu]

I don't dislike the movie designs, so I'll live as long as the gameplay as good.

In fact, I prefer lean Turtles over the super-muscular 2k3 Turtles.

[Ryona]

^Ya, It's a shame that the article itself had such cool tmnt artwork, but the actual models will be the same as TMNT.
It's kinda a bummer, because all the artwork from the game covers to the actual sprites always looked great during the ol tmnt game days.

Wha?...

I personally think the promotion drawings suck ass. I could draw better designs.

And I for one like how the TMNT look in the new movie. For starters, they actually LOOK LIKE teenagers rather then 20-something year olds on steroids.
I like how there faces look. Very Mirage-esque. And I like that their shells are streamlined rather than being a huge f***ing house on their back like how it is in the 2k3 series designs.

Also, I REALLY hope that this game will be on other consoles other than Wii. I mean really... Nintendo's little senser-control gimmick is practical for games like Wii Sports, but it's a pain in the ass.. ..no wait.. Pain in the arm to use for fighter games.
I remember trying to play DBZ Tenkaichi 3 at my friend's place with the Wii remote, and remembering what a peice of **** that was.
But whatever. At least the Game Cube controllers can be used on the Wii.

[Ra]

^^ Agreed with all the above.

The promo art... it's nice, yes, but it could be better. Much better. To be honest, I think the guy who did the designs for "Spectacular Spiderman" drew this one (if not, forgive me, but the style looks very similar to his). Define the limbs a bit more. Lean, not muscular.

'kay. Enough of me being nit-picky. I'm... actually getting excited. *lol* Haven't gotten excited about TMNT in a good while, so that's a good sign. Not too thrilled that the Wii is being the main console of choice to make the game here, but hey, Brawl turned out fine. The game has a lot of promise, so fingers crossed that it will be a game for everyone to remember.

...

For the right reasons, I mean...

[Ninjinister]

I remember trying to play DBZ Tenkaichi 3 at my friend's place with the Wii remote, and remembering what a peice of **** that was.
But whatever. At least the Game Cube controllers can be used on the Wii.

Then again, Budokai Tenkaichi 3, like 2, was developed for optimization on the PS2, then the source code was ported to the Wii. Thus, like most games that this was done for, the motion controls were tacked on as an afterthought.

There are only a handful of Wii exclusive fighters, and from what I hear, the traditional Wii controls aren't bad on more of them than not. I'm not certain myself, though. The only one I have is Brawl, and I use the Gamecube controller, because it seems more practical. I am hoping that this game, too, has decent a Gamecube controller setup.

[Daniel Orduna]

I Hope we have loots of turtle sesings like

the new movie ones
and 84 all red bandanas

new 2003 cartoon

fast foward

91 movie etc

so...any date 4 a trailer?

[Chrissie Terrapin]

I often play brawl with the Wii controller and the Chuck for fun but I prefer the GC controller.

I hope they'll have optional control setup since there a lot of people that dislike having the nunchucks forced at them

[Ninjinister]

so...any date 4 a trailer?


Video games, especially low profile ones like this, very, very rarely have preset dates scheduled for teaser or gameplay trailers.

[Wes]

This game upsets me because it's only for the Wii -- or so that's what I've heard! Now, I'd be all about a PC version... though I'm almost certain my machine wouldn't be able to play it.

Owell, I guess I'll stick to Tournament Fighters and Manhattan Missions. ;)

[Chrissie Terrapin]

I got a Wii so I don't mind^_~

[gobo]

I got a Wii so I don't mind^_~
I think it's obvious at this point that your first choice of console is Nintendo. And, I don't even know ya!

[prescribeddrone]

I got a PS3 but my little sister is getting a Wii, if it doesn't come out on the PS3 i got that as backup:evilgrin:

[Chrissie Terrapin]

I think it's obvious at this point that your first choice of console is Nintendo. And, I don't even know ya!

oh? what revealed me?:lol:

[clockstomper]

Good to know something good is coming for Wii. Been a damn long time.

I do wish we'd get TMNT game on one of the other consoles so we could have a more modern game...the engine on the new Prince of Persia game would make a great Turtles game. That comic-like art style is just perfect and the partner AI expanded to four Turtles moving in sync would be fantastic.

[AquaParade]

Good to know something good is coming for Wii. Been a damn long time.

I do wish we'd get TMNT game on one of the other consoles so we could have a more modern game...the engine on the new Prince of Persia game would make a great Turtles game. That comic-like art style is just perfect and the partner AI expanded to four Turtles moving in sync would be fantastic.

You are right, something modern and polished would be great.
I'm holding out the slightest bit of hope on a further announcement of the 360 and PS3 receiving their own game, because in the nintendo power magazine, the man being interviewed was not allowed to comment on that certain game being ported to other systems. We'll see...

[Daniel Orduna]

I have a wii...and I always think that it sucks but with new tmnt game jajaj I am glad having one...do u think it:)s going to be a great game??:D

[LeoNerdo]

Some new or different information today....

These details come from NGamer magazine…

- official title is TMNT: Smash Up
- dark, gritty graphics
- some real-world inspired locations: Manhattan skyline, unspecified jungle arena, motel roof
- defeat opponents by depleting health meter or via stage knock-out, much like the Smash Bros. series
- some context-sensitive moves
- no motion-controlled attacks, but there will be motion controls for other aspects
- levels change as you fight, start in one location and end up in another
- pizza restores health
- Peter Laird (TMNT co-creator) is writing the single-player story
- Mirage (comic publisher) is filling out the roster
- Splinter and the Turtles are the only confirmed fighters thus far
- 4-player online reconfirmed

source:http://gonintendo.com/?p=70321#comments

Smash-up?? lol okay whatever. ill still buy it but surely they could think of a better name than that, eh?

[Kendamu]

Cool! New info.

Yeah, kind of an unoriginal name, but whatever. They could've called it "TMNT: Pink Pony Palace of Hugging" as long as the gameplay was good.

[Ninjinister]

Glad it finally has a name, even if it sucks.

[gobo]

Title sounds dumb. The rest sounds promising. :) I'll still be shocked if this one turns out half as enjoyable as Ghostbusters for me, but it really does seem like it at least won't be a flop this time.

[NiNi]

I'm rather excited about it. ^^ I haven't played anything fighting based for a long time, so this game will probably fill that gap for me. XD

[Spitfire]

It could be call "TMNT: Jock Riders" and I'd still get it if it's good. What does the title matter?

[gobo]

Some people still judge books by their covers.

[Quiet_Guy]

Hmm I wonder if Leatherhead and Yusagi will be playable secret characters. I wonder which version of April they will, old cartoon or movie version.

[Blade Raider]

- Peter Laird (TMNT co-creator) is writing the single-player story
- Mirage (comic publisher) is filling out the roster
Those two points still worry me. I fear that the game will have to much Mirage Universe stuff and not much (if anything) else. With Laird's tendency to igrone what made TMNT good in the first place, I just can't help but worry. Here's to hoping my worries can be put to bed once more playable characters are announced.

Hmm I wonder if Leatherhead and Yusagi will be playable secret characters. I wonder which version of April they will, old cartoon or movie version.
I would think the movie April sense Ubi Soft most likly only seen her in the movie where she kicked butt.

[Spitfire]

Those two points still worry me. I fear that the game will have to much Mirage Universe stuff and not much (if anything) else. With Laird's tendency to igrone what made TMNT good in the first place, I just can't help but worry. Here's to hoping my worries can be put to bed once more playable characters are announced.

I don't see this as a problem I see it as a plus.

[Ninjinister]

I don't see this as a problem I see it as a plus.

Concurred. Whilst it would be great to see old favourites from other versions of the TMNT like Bebop and Rocksteady or the Mutanimals, there is nothing wrong with an all-Mirage character game.

[Candy Kappa]

Laird making the story?
Heaven here I come!

If I ever get the hang of scripting in UT3 I'm gonna make a short game of issue 1

[1984]

http://kotaku.com/5139377/ubisoft-celebrates-25-years-of-turtle-power-with-new-tmnt-game

Not sure if there is any new info, but its another posting on the game and a nice screenshot.

[Ninjinister]

Ha. Leave it to Kotaku to update with something important when I'm NOT watching it :p

[Kendamu]

http://kotaku.com/5139377/ubisoft-celebrates-25-years-of-turtle-power-with-new-tmnt-game

Not sure if there is any new info, but its another posting on the game and a nice screenshot.
Looking at that new screen, you can tell that there's a definite base in the movie-style Turtles and the graphics used to make the movie game, but they look like they've been polished a lot to take advantage of the Wii being stronger than the PS2.

They seem a little thinker in the torso, new movements are obviously there, and the skin looks smoothed over in a way that looks a bit more... reptilian, I guess.

[joe-eyeball]

Yeah the name kinda sucks. It sounds very 80's. I have to admit that I am a bit worried about this game because most kiddie property related video games tend to suck because the developers know they can throw something together quickly in a fancy package and it will sell like hotcakes whether it is good or not.

[Dragon Turtle]

IGN has a few more screens (really just one new one):

http://wii.ign.com/articles/948/948072p1.html

[Ryona]

Those screenshots are very pleasing to see so far. I love the way the TMNT look in the new movie, so that's the best model for the game developers to go with for a TMNT fighter game.

Also, it's awesome that Splinter will finally be playable.

[Mecha Cow]

Those screens actually look pretty nice, and they don't even seem like bullshots either. Consider me cautiously optimistic.

[Spitfire]

I still have this false hope that a Mirage or even cartoon style will be an unlockable extra costume. If it's like Smash each character should have 4 variations. I just hope it isn't just skin tone.

[Peanut]

I'm really excited to see the Turtles getting some positive press on the big game sites. I won't get too positive until we find out that we'll have the ability to play the game sans-waggle.

Like Spit, I also hope for some kind of Mirage-like skin for all the characters, or at least the Turtles. Also, I hope to God they go completely overboard on the inclusion of obscure and classic characters. And if we look at Smash, the likelihood of clone characters is inevitable, but maybe they'll go insane and make them something like Image-style Cyborg Donny, which would be Rawsome!

And as Ray Barnholt said over on 1up, we NEED OT characters like Krang in there. NEED! PLEASE!

[R-iZZy]

Screens look decent, although Peter Laird doing the story makes me a bit skeptical. He hasn't been the same with stories since Kevin Eastman was still tagging with him.

But the fact that Mirage is actually working on the roster is f*cking awesome! Rat King, Leatherhead, maybe a bit of Justice Force, Radical, Carnage; the possibilities are endless.

[Kid Icarus]

I saw the screens on gamasutra at work last night... and then I foud out about the reissue figures. Best night ever? Pretty close!

Excuse me while I go sob in the corner and ponder my pitful existance ;)

[Vegita-San]

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=17612

Dunno if someone posted this yet.

Don't you just love these motivating quotes by gary? :)

[TerranigmaFreak]

I guess you guys still haven't seen these.

http://item.slide.com/r/1/155/i/pLQJlCd2yD_HmOIH0i2b9Su79P8rqT1a/
http://item.slide.com/r/1/94/i/jVcw_OqZ6D8IZZLg7LXdiDAEkQZh3DLW/
http://item.slide.com/r/1/237/i/QOr8a9Y1vz_tKhDvTYBwCLrUwB1xCSq1/
http://item.slide.com/r/1/23/i/z4uE0_P55T_bAOTb_XWMFZxBFnTOBH_x/
http://item.slide.com/r/1/219/i/0HaaDKZf4j8lRXGUmAUq8YUZ8Dtelfb5/

[Ninjinister]

I guess you guys still haven't seen these.


We have, or rather, I have, at least... they're the ones that were in Nintendo Power, and also at IGN.

[VaughnMichael]

Yeah they're not based on the movie style guide or anything.:lol:

[Ninjinister]

Unless I missed something, I'm pretty sure that had already been established.

[TerranigmaFreak]

We have, or rather, I have, at least... they're the ones that were in Nintendo Power, and also at IGN.

Huh? Really? I'm looking at IGN right now and I don't see them. Plus, the pics are listed as March 16, leading me to believe those are images from the movie based game, and not images of the current game. At least 2 of them are from yesterday, but the rest are all wrong.

[Ninjinister]

Huh? Really? I'm looking at IGN right now and I don't see them. Plus, the pics are listed as March 16, leading me to believe those are images from the movie based game, and not images of the current game. At least 2 of them are from yesterday, but the rest are all wrong.

That would make no sense... especially since Splinter only appeared in static cutscenes in the previous game.

EDIT: http://media.wii.ign.com/media/143/14305526/imgs_1.html

[TerranigmaFreak]

Oh, ok, I see. IGN fudged up the screens. They actually posted screens from this game into the movie game section as well, yet I didn't see the large turtles images there.

[Ninjinister]

Bah... IGN's always buggered.

[VaughnMichael]

Unless I missed something, I'm pretty sure that had already been established.
Well they kept saying the characters wouldn't have any set style guide and looking at everything it's all taken from the much over used movie styles.

[Kendamu]

I thought people were saying that, story-wise, it wasn't based in any specific universe.

[Spitfire]

Well they kept saying the characters wouldn't have any set style guide and looking at everything it's all taken from the much over used movie styles.

That's because all the people who are working on the game saw the new CGI movie recently and loved it. They thought the style was "dark" and blah blah. It makes sense why they went with it since they like the style but the rest of us won't agree with them. None of them follow the comics and were all previously viewers of the first cartoon. Only the president of the project said he's a fan of the comics.

I hope like I said earlier that alternate costumes including a cartoon and comic style are selectable. If they are I'll never even play as the movie designs.

[Roseangelo]

Well they kept saying the characters wouldn't have any set style guide and looking at everything it's all taken from the much over used movie styles.

It has always been said that the look of the game would be taken from the last movie game (those models and sets are already built, so it saves a hell of a lot of money). The story is not based on any existing story from any particular universe.

[VaughnMichael]

It has always been said that the look of the game would be taken from the last movie game (those models and sets are already built, so it saves a hell of a lot of money). The story is not based on any existing story from any particular universe.
Ah my bad, I must have read that wrong then.
While I just recently have played that movie game and it is a bit fun, I'm gonna pass on this one I've just had way to much of looking at the movie designs now to last me a life time.
These people need to learn when to much is just to much.

[Peanut]

It's a fighting game, what kind of story could it possibly have?

[Ninjinister]

Shredder could always unbalance the furies...

[gobo]

It's a fighting game, what kind of story could it possibly have?
As much story as Street Fighter, I assume (a backstory that isn't revealed until the end). Maybe even a clearly-defined premise like Tournament Fighters.

[Ninjinister]

As much story as Street Fighter, I assume (a backstory that isn't revealed until the end). Maybe even a clearly-defined premise like Tournament Fighters.

To be quite honest, most high-profile fighting games have very complex backstories. That's why there are even plot guides for this stuff.

[Dr. Doom]

It makes sense why they went with it since they like the style but the rest of us won't agree with them.

I will. **** you.

[Mecha Cow]

It's a fighting game, what kind of story could it possibly have?
Well, see, there's this tournament...

To be quite honest, most high-profile fighting games have very complex backstories. That's why there are even plot guides for this stuff.
Those plot guides exist because it's impossible to make even the slightest bit of sense of those ridiculous non-stories without them.

[gobo]

Those plot guides exist because it's impossible to make even the slightest bit of sense of those ridiculous non-stories without them.
That's what I thought. The plot guides are made to connect the dots.

[Dr. Doom]

Fighting game CAN have good stories, and a lot of them have a great mythology surrounding them, but by the time namco got to Soul Calibur IV, for example, everyone is just kinda like "Well, I guess I should probably go look for Soul Edge. Again." When you use the same characters over and over again like that (not that I'm complaining alltogether), the story is eventually going to stop having any impact whatsoever. I'm sure like King of Fighters is the same way.

[Ninjinister]

KoF is kind of going in circles in some aspects, such as the whole "resurrecting Orochi" thing again... but it does have its twists, such as the fact that the protagonist of the saga, Ash, may or may not actually be the villain.

Street Fighter is in a rut because it keeps bringing back characters that for all intents and purposes should be dead, and with the lamest excuses. Bison was sent to Hell by the Shungokusatsu... now he's back in a new body provided by Seth. Gen was supposed to have died of Leukemia before SF1... and he's still around in 4, supposedly still looking to die in combat rather than of his ailment. Rose's body, for all intents and purposes, should have been destroyed after Bison briefly possessed her between Alpha 3 and SF2.

[Peanut]

Sounds like a great story! :roll: Shall we start going into the nonsense of series like MK or SC now? I'm sure we'll truly find the best in those!

[Candy Kappa]

the story mode could be as simple as a cinematic where you do the fighting between the cinematic scenes