Official 25th Anniversary Figures Thread

[A little *too* Raph]

Well i didn't know they were out already (I'm guessing its a bootleg?) but here is a 25th mikey

http://cgi.ebay.com/25th-anniversary-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-TMNT-misb_W0QQitemZ330299098925QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item330299098925&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18|301%3A0|293%3A10|294%3A50

Again, I don't think it's the real deal, but i've been wrong before

edit:
sorry if this is the wrong thread, seems like there are 10 threads about new toys...

[IamtheKnight]

Nice find! But the box art looks awful!

[Ninjinister]

Well i didn't know they were out already (I'm guessing its a bootleg?) but here is a 25th mikey

http://cgi.ebay.com/25th-anniversary-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-TMNT-misb_W0QQitemZ330299098925QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item330299098925&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18|301%3A0|293%3A10|294%3A50

Again, I don't think it's the real deal, but i've been wrong before

edit:
sorry if this is the wrong thread, seems like there are 10 threads about new toys...

I want to kill myself.

[A little *too* Raph]

because of the post or because of the toy? I WILL NOT HAVE YOUR BLOOD ON MY HANDS!!!

[Kendamu]

Well i didn't know they were out already (I'm guessing its a bootleg?) but here is a 25th mikey

http://cgi.ebay.com/25th-anniversary-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-TMNT-misb_W0QQitemZ330299098925QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item330299098925&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18|301%3A0|293%3A10|294%3A50

Again, I don't think it's the real deal, but i've been wrong before

edit:
sorry if this is the wrong thread, seems like there are 10 threads about new toys...
If it's a bootleg, they really paid attention to detail!

[Sarah]

http://cgi.ebay.com/25th-anniversary-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-TMNT-misb_W0QQitemZ330299098925QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item330299098925&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18|301%3A0|293%3A10|294%3A50



if this is the final product, and Im guessing that it is, then it's pretty obvious that Playmates hasnt put any effort into this so called *anniversary*. it's a disappointment to say the least.

[IamtheKnight]

Sure is. Sad isn't it.

[Kendamu]

if this is the final product, and Im guessing that it is, then it's pretty obvious that Playmates hasnt put any effort into this so called *anniversary*. it's a disappointment to say the least.
I suppose it is if you were expecting a real live mutant turtle to call your own from Playmates and hadn't heard the news of re-issuing the original figures, but it's not like that the final product is a shocking development that's sending fans into tears or anything.

We've known about this for awhile.

[dripgutz24]

I think the box art is just fine, its not like G.I. Joe did anything spectacular for there 25th, this is pretty much what I expected to look like what the originals did and they did that plus adding a original dvd which is cool, Thats if this is the real re-issue packaging.

[NoPressApril]

How cool. That packaging is sharp and a helluva tribute to the old line. I wish that Playmates had went with the tent hook instead of the J-peg but that's really minor. The inclusion of classic episodes on DVD is pretty sweet too. Now, I wonder which online retailers are going to be selling cases? :)

[Candy Kappa]

nice I want those

[Sarah]

I suppose it is if you were expecting a real live mutant turtle to call your own from Playmates and hadn't heard the news of re-issuing the original figures, but it's not like that the final product is a shocking development that's sending fans into tears or anything.

We've known about this for awhile.

oooooooooh sarcasm... :lol:

I meant the lack of effort that they put into their packaging. every other toy line that has done commemorative figs has made a effort to present their reissues in a package that has usually complimented the original product. but its clear that playmates doesn't feel that the TMNT reissues are worthy of being presented to the fans like the Star Wars or MOTU reissues. and besides, this is just messy, 2 really large and unattractive stickers on the bubble, the card art doesn't match the originals, and I just love the way they tucked April in the corner on the bottom of the card like she doesn't matter. and why the hell is Mikey slanted in the bubble? I sure as hell don't remember that from the original line. yeah great job Playmates, you cant even display your figs in their package upright.

[Candy Kappa]

as long as the figure is fine I don't mind. I can't keep them in the box anyway I'd go CRAZY!:D

[DonsAssistant]

found pics another forum. I didn't find at the store or anything cool like that.

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r87/celebrity22005/Billys%20Toys/GreenRanger227.jpg?t=1231279170
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r87/celebrity22005/Billys%20Toys/GreenRanger228.jpg?t=1231279197

[A little *too* Raph]

nice find. I guess that confirms my post in this thread (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=25893&page=11)

[Jester]

Wow, pant-less Shredder even made the box art, way to go Playmates. I wonder if we have 1 episode for all 12 figures or if we get 12 distinct episodes.

[A little *too* Raph]

maybe its a build-an-episode promotion

[DonsAssistant]

the krang on the back is strange...is it an accessory included with shredder???

I didn't expect casey. I thought it was the first 10 plus krang and slash. Interesting changes from what I expected

[Roseangelo]

If pantsless Shredder made it to inside the package, I am so buying that.

[Archon_Turtle]

It's an evil black diaper

[King Kahn]

how much were these?

[IamtheKnight]

8.99 each. Pant less shredder FTW!

[Leonardo19]

Looks like one has made it to Ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/25th-anniversary-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-TMNT-misb_W0QQitemZ330299098925QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item330299098925&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

[MrPliggins]

must we complain about everything?

[Kendamu]

Yes. True fans whine about everything and buy it anyway.

[Kendamu]

For the most part, I'm glad these are out and can totally promote the OT universe and whatnot. However, only one thing minorly disappoints me: no character bios cards.

Nice to see Casey made the line, though. Casey is my favorite!

Oh, and pantsless Shredder rocks! It's like a masked anorexic Sumo wrestler.

EDIT: Oh, hey. Where can I pick these up?

[Jester]

Darn right....Foot Bot army for the win!

[Leonardo19]

Yes. True fans whine about everything and buy it anyway.

LOL! so true!

[BigApple3AM]

It's a bit of a shame they're not keeping the individualized cards since they're already done anyway, but it'll definitely kick ass to see the old school stuff on the pegs again.

[VaughnMichael]

oooooooooh sarcasm... :lol:

I meant the lack of effort that they put into their packaging. every other toy line that has done commemorative figs has made a effort to present their reissues in a package that has usually complimented the original product. but its clear that playmates doesn't feel that the TMNT reissues are worthy of being presented to the fans like the Star Wars or MOTU reissues. and besides, this is just messy, 2 really large and unattractive stickers on the bubble, the card art doesn't match the originals, and I just love the way they tucked April in the corner on the bottom of the card like she doesn't matter. and why the hell is Mikey slanted in the bubble? I sure as hell don't remember that from the original line. yeah great job Playmates, you cant even display your figs in their package upright.
Thank you for covering everything I thought, I'm just going to have Sarah speak for me from this point forward :)
Yes. True fans whine about everything and buy it anyway.
I've said from the start that I will not be buying a single one of these, and the disappointment continues.
There is one thing to whine and then there is constructive criticism which Sarah is doing and she is completely correct about the things she listed.
That is some of the worst layout and design work I've ever seen, it's sloppy as all hell.
I can't wait to see how aesthetically displeasing the back is now.
Each character should have their own had brand new art that was close to the old box's but different enough that people knew, they should have also used some sort of gold anniversary sticker or something.
I made it one of my goals not to complain in this new year, but it's hard to not be disappointed when untalented hacks are out there doing bad design jobs.

[VaughnMichael]

These are just so horrible in a graphic designers eyes it makes them want to bleed purple goo.
Geez the back is even worse I seriously cannot believe those images ended up on it!
And I am dumbfounded that they would release that horrible little Krang that came with the 1994 Android Body without the body.
It looks as if Krang will be some sort of pack-in for pantless Shredder.
They should have just release this again.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2368/2495727021_68b6f5ffd1.jpg?v=0
EDIT: oh and I told you guys Slash was being re-released didn't I, maybe people will start listening to what I say around here.

[Jester]

Ok, Vaughn, I consider you a bud and that's kinda tired...:P

[thegame24]

Found these today at a Target in Indiana. The DCPI is 087 06 2080

[sdp]

Wow, they're very expensive for what they are. I expected them to be 5-6 dollars. Not having Krang was a stupid stupid move, as much as I like Slash.


LMAO if Shredder is actually Pants-less.



Anyway the DVD looks like its using the same type of LionsGate artwork, could they actually be the volumes packed in? That would make it a great deal, at least those who don't own them. Though its more likely they all have different random episodes that don't even feature the character you just bought. Who knows maybe they include the skipped episodes from the volume sets:lol:

[Roseangelo]

Who knows maybe they include the skipped episodes from the volume sets:lol:

I dropped that suggestion with Murphy awhile back; no clue what came of it, though. Guess we'll soon find out.

[thegame24]

The package says there are five different DVDs and each one has one episode.

[Jester]

Anyway the DVD looks like its using the same type of LionsGate artwork, could they actually be the volumes packed in? That would make it a great deal, at least those who don't own them. Though its more likely they all have different random episodes that don't even feature the character you just bought. Who knows maybe they include the skipped episodes from the volume sets:lol:

Looking closer, it looks like the old Playmates box art actually.

[VaughnMichael]

Ok, Vaughn, I consider you a bud and that's kinda tired...:P
What part Jester? The part where people keep being a-holes into the new year even though the things I've said a millions times keep being proven or the part where I really don't give a flying fu$# anymore?

[NoPressApril]

ummm, anyway back on track. Thanks for the DCPI # thegame24 it looks like i'm going to have to stalk Target to get the new April as I can't find any online retailers that are offering these by the case. I really thought that Entertainment Earth would be selling these but I would have thought that they would have had these up for preorder by now. If anyone comes across any sites selling these by the case please post and let me know, I would be most appreciative. :)

[VaughnMichael]

ummm, anyway back on track. Thanks for the DPCI # thegame24 it looks like i'm going to have to stalk Target to get the new April as I can't find any online retailers that are offering these by the case. I really thought that Entertainment Earth would be selling these but I would have thought that they would have had these up for preorder by now. If anyone comes across any sites selling these by the case please post and let me know, I would be most appreciative. :)
These will only be sold in retail Nopress.

[Jester]

What part Jester? The part where people keep being a-holes into the new year even though the things I've said a millions times keep being proven or the part where I really don't give a flying fu$# anymore?
The "See I told ya so!" rap.

Some of us are skeptical...can't blame us for wanting to hold out some hope, right?
(EDIT: And I know I'm not one of the afore mentioned a-holes, I hope...:P)

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

These will only be sold in retail Nopress.

That's a bummer. So much for the Internet making things easier.

I didn't know these were going to be out already.

[tOkKa]

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r87/celebrity22005/Billys%20Toys/GreenRanger228.jpg?t=1231279197

-->> .. o peanuts .. it looks like i designed the package !! :sick:







..o wait a'sec ' .. http://www.terrible2z.com/coleco-wh0rehouse/sewer/mikeystmnt-smilies/tokk-jiggawha.gif

[Candy Kappa]

oh shredder you perv:roll:

[Kendamu]

*lots of serious issues with toys*

Grr. Take it so seriously, why don't you? It isn't as if I was saying that every fan buys everything regardless of quality. I'm probably one of the most easy-to-please fans of the TMNT and I still don't buy everything. Even if I had the money I wouldn't buy everything. Certain things cater to my interest. These toys don't exactly do that because I'm more into the comics and DVDs. I'm tempted to pick them up but I'm contemplating if it's worth it compared to some other things I want to pick up.

Chill out. You don't need to get so angry that you double-post.

In the words of Michelangelo: "It w's... it w's a joke!"

[Krang]

You don't need to get so angry that you double-post.
That was the result of a thread merge, so it's not truly a double post.

[VaughnMichael]

The "See I told ya so!" rap.

Some of us are skeptical...can't blame us for wanting to hold out some hope, right?
(EDIT: And I know I'm not one of the afore mentioned a-holes, I hope...:P)
It wasn't so much a see I told you so as look there is the proof now stop giving me such a hard time.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r87/celebrity22005/Billys%20Toys/GreenRanger228.jpg?t=1231279197

-->> .. o peanuts .. it looks like i designed the package !! :sick:

..o wait a'sec ' .. http://www.terrible2z.com/coleco-wh0rehouse/sewer/mikeystmnt-smilies/tokk-jiggawha.gif
Indeed it does look like something you'd do Dave!:o
You lucky devil how'd you get that job?
Grr. Take it so seriously, why don't you? It isn't as if I was saying that every fan buys everything regardless of quality. I'm probably one of the most easy-to-please fans of the TMNT and I still don't buy everything. Even if I had the money I wouldn't buy everything. Certain things cater to my interest. These toys don't exactly do that because I'm more into the comics and DVDs. I'm tempted to pick them up but I'm contemplating if it's worth it compared to some other things I want to pick up.

Chill out. You don't need to get so angry that you double-post.

In the words of Michelangelo: "It w's... it w's a joke!"
If I knew what I said that you replied to I could reply back to you but since you didn't I won't.
I'm fine with them re-releasing them honestly I don't give 2 sh1ts more money in my pocket to buy Dc Universe and Marvel Legends figures.
But when the box art is just that down right bad I as a design who busts his butt to get jobs is offended by such bad art by someone who shouldn't even be working in the graphic design field if their skills are that bad.
It looks like some fan made desktop wallpaper on ninjaturtles.com
So as you see i'm not about the toys themselves it's the thought or lack there off behind it all that gets my goat.
That was the result of a thread merge, so it's not truly a double post.
I don't double post as I know the rules of this site, so thank you Krang.

[tOkKa]

666

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3453/3176615188_3884c8058a.jpg

-->> o' .. o' .. ..also wanted to take the time personally thank Jester for all the terribly disturbing visuals of my Mother running around 1/2 naked in a cape, with blue blades and a barely visible purple thong..


.. i'm gonna go poke my eyeballs out with a BBQ skewer and boil them in 3 gallons of boric acid.

My god i hope i burn in hell for 110 million eternities ..


i'm not gonna be able to get a decent night's sleep for the rest of my pathetic, menial existance..


oh the HORROR ..



..whatta world.. whatta world ..


..>v<

[Candy Kappa]

and I had with the topless style of shredder...

[NoPressApril]

That's a bummer. So much for the Internet making things easier.

Agreed. Personally I despise buying figures retail. I wonder why these haven't been made available to online companies, Playmates has no problem selling them the new Star Trek figures. I think that I will just buy these from Ebay. Even at inflated prices it still beats the stress of having to deal with the idiots that work at my local Target and TRU. I guess i'm just really spoiled from being able to order sealed cases of Star Wars and DST's TNG figures without hassle. :-?

[Leonardo19]

Here are some pics someone posted on another forum. It shows the bottom view of the packs.

http://www.thefwoosh.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=49229&start=975

[Candy Kappa]

seems like they've smashed box art from all the new released on one card, a bit cheap looking:lol:

[Canadian Turtle]

Hahaha! this is sweet! I like the fact that its old school packaging. But why the hell hasn't anyone seen these ?? You'd think someone here would have found one in a store!!

So which other forum did you find that pic in?... EDIT!! never mind I should learn to read... its all cool everyone I just woke up and missed the second and third page of this thread. Have a nice day!!

[Sarah]

so this is what I miss when I leave the computer to go have sex. :lol:

The part where people keep being a-holes into the new year even though the things I've said a millions times keep being proven

one thing that Ive learned in the short time that Ive been here is that Vaughn is always correct with the information that he posts. unlike most of us, Vaughn is one of the few people on the Drome that has inside sources and he knows what he's talking about. give it time... you'll see that he's right.

It's a bit of a shame they're not keeping the individualized cards since they're already done anyway, but it'll definitely kick ass to see the old school stuff on the pegs again.

welcome to CANADA!!! they have been using that method here since I was a kid. it's cheaper for them to produce one single generic cardback and put a sticker on the bubble to identify the character than it is to create individual cards for each character. it's done here for the purpose of having multi-language cards without any creativity. (and for some reason some Americans collect Canadian variants.) and I don't have any complaints about the figs themselves...yet. but for all I know they could be made with inferior plastic and they'll break right after you open them. it wouldnt shock me if Playmates cheaped out on the quality of the figs as well. but don't get me wrong, Im glad that they're reissuing the original TMNT figs, I just wish it was handled in a more respectful way.

[Ninjinister]

So... nobody's seen anything but Turtles thus far, right?

God I hope Playmates didn't pull their usual crap and release only Turtles.... >.<

[Kendamu]

If I knew what I said that you replied to I could reply back to you but since you didn't I won't.

I joked that fans whine about everything then buy it anyway. Then you jumped down my throat over it. That's what we were talking about.

I don't double post as I know the rules of this site, so thank you Krang.

Turn your nose up just a little higher. Us un-edumucated commoners can't quite quite see what's in there yet.

[Ninjinister]

Darwin was wrong. The human race is doing nothing but devolving....

[Candy Kappa]

its proved that evolution loops sometimes

oh wait... is that scales on my arm?

[Jester]

Darwin was wrong. The human race is doing nothing but devolving....
Have you seen this movie?
Idiocracy! (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/)

[Ninjinister]

Have you seen this movie?
Idiocracy! (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/)

I haven't, but I'm familiar with the plot (and the hilarious Brawndo 'commercials', done by the same dude that does the PowerThirst ones).

My point was, we're supposed to be here discussing the figures, not whining about who's right, who's wrong, who's rubbing their nose in things, who's making "I told you so's" like Toxic Crusaders' Psycho... There is way too much arguing and drama on these forums, and we need to be more civilized.

[Samhain]

ill be picking these up for sure. we are lucky we are getting anything for the 25th. transformers and gi joe didnt get hardly squat.

[VaughnMichael]

I joked that fans whine about everything then buy it anyway. Then you jumped down my throat over it. That's what we were talking about.
Turn your nose up just a little higher. Us un-edumucated commoners can't quite quite see what's in there yet.
Seriously dude you got all p1ssy at me for something Krang did, I'm not jumping down anyones throught except Playmates sh1t design team.
Darwin was wrong. The human race is doing nothing but devolving....
Well that was easy to figure the fuc$ out just look around you.
I believe we are splitting into 2 parts stupids and nonstupids.
Simple minded stimpys and angry rens because we have to deal with stimpys.:P
its proved that evolution loops sometimes
oh wait... is that scales on my arm?
That's just skin flakes nothin' an old fashion cheese shredder to the skin wont cure.;)
ill be picking these up for sure. we are lucky we are getting anything for the 25th. transformers and gi joe didnt get hardly squat.
Really, the stuff I've seen for both of those properties seem to have allot more care put into them thus far.

[Ninjinister]

Well that was easy to figure the fuc$ out just look around you.
I believe we are splitting into 2 parts stupids and nonstupids.
Simple minded stimpys and angry rens because we have to deal with stimpys.:P

Doesn't matter to me who's stupid and who's not. We all still need to get along together.

[Candy Kappa]

a little debating is always health as long as it won't get personal or drag in others mother in the argument:D

[Newton Gimmick]

Love the retro cards and card backs. Wish they'd kept bio cards though.

[VaughnMichael]

Doesn't matter to me who's stupid and who's not. We all still need to get along together.
You know as well as I do that it's not going to go down like that as long as someone always has a differnce of opinion.
Anyway I just got back from Target they had nothing new.

[FLAduranie]

I like them all! I'm just excited to see some new stuff out.

[NoPressApril]

You know as well as I do that it's not going to go down like that as long as someone always has a differnce of opinion.
Anyway I just got back from Target they had nothing new.

Yeah I did the DPCI thing at 2 Target stores (one was a Super) and nothing. Another auction has popped up on the bay with the set of 4 turtles. thegame24 said that all he saw were the turtles too. I wonder if the secondary characters are even in these cases.

[IamtheKnight]

Will these be available at Toys R us too?

[VaughnMichael]

Yeah I did the DPCI thing at 2 Target stores (one was a Super) and nothing. Another auction has popped up on the bay with the set of 4 turtles. thegame24 said that all he saw were the turtles too. I wonder if the secondary characters are even in these cases.
That's why I was out looking, I want to see how the other figures are packed and if the paint is any differnt from the other re-releases over the past years.
Will these be available at Toys R us too?
They should be yes, but Toys R Us is a bit slow with getting new merch out some times.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Agreed. Personally I despise buying figures retail. I wonder why these haven't been made available to online companies, Playmates has no problem selling them the new Star Trek figures. I think that I will just buy these from Ebay. Even at inflated prices it still beats the stress of having to deal with the idiots that work at my local Target and TRU. I guess i'm just really spoiled from being able to order sealed cases of Star Wars and DST's TNG figures without hassle. :-?

I have to admit I kind of don't want to look like a weirdo buying these things. Still buying action figures is accepted at places like comic stores, because they know the whole collectible idea, not so much at normal retail stores probably.

[Zachatello00]

which version of april is that? it kinda looks like a hybrid of the 1st april and the remake

[GK Punk]

Have you seen this movie?
Idiocracy! (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/)

One of my favorite movies.

ill be picking these up for sure. we are lucky we are getting anything for the 25th. transformers and gi joe didnt get hardly squat.

Huh? The GI Joe 25th Anniversary was great. It completely revamped and rejuvinated the line, and got GI Joe back in to stores like Target and Wal-Mart after being absent since 2005. and there was a large Number of figures released for it.

[Jester]

Wasn't the 25th what lead to the 2 box sets with the bases with the speakers in them...the one that had the theme and the clip from the movie..."Cobra...COOOBRA! Cobra...COOOBRA!!"

[GK Punk]

They released 3 Box sets that had figures and Speakers like that. the third one is the one you are refering to. They also released like 50 single carded figures, probably 20 Comic/Figure 2 packs, 4 Vehicles and a bunch of Store Exclusives.

To say Hasbro didn't do anything for the GI Joe 25th anniversary is a huge understatement.

[VaughnMichael]

Oh just so everyone knows there will be box sets of the old TMNT figures as well.
Or well that is what I've been told.

[GK Punk]

Any idea of when on that? I may just wait on getting the single carded ones if I can just get them in one set.

[NoPressApril]

I have to admit I kind of don't want to look like a weirdo buying these things. Still buying action figures is accepted at places like comic stores, because they know the whole collectible idea, not so much at normal retail stores probably.

Right. July 26th I was at Wal-Mart for "midnight madness" waiting to buy the new ROTJ figures and the employees were walking by snickering and giving each other looks at the expense of myself and the others that were there waiting. It's like that everywhere here. "Toys be fer chirren! Adults that buys them is gunna sales um or lives in momma's basement" so online shopping makes my toy habit less stressful. One guy on the Rebelscum forums admitted to buying a kid's birthday card when he buys new figures for himself just to keep the cashier from giving him "the look". I thought that was funny.

[GK Punk]

You know that's funny, I've only one time had some one give me a hard time for buying action figures, and that was a Winx Club doll. But never for Star Wars, TMNT, GI Joe, etc.

[Roseangelo]

Oh noes, the minimum wage cashier at Walmart might not approve of my buying habits for the 30 seconds of my life I'm in contact with him. Boohoo.

[Sarah]

actually I find that being female has it's advantages in that department. no one has ever given me weird looks when I go to buy new toys, specially when I bring my niece's and nephew's with me. they just assume that the toys are for the kids. :lol:

[VaughnMichael]

Any idea of when on that? I may just wait on getting the single carded ones if I can just get them in one set.
Well i was told the box set wuld be coming first and I think it was going to be at Toys R Us so everyone keep an eye out for that.
But as we can see the single carded turtles are out at Target first.
You know that's funny, I've only one time had some one give me a hard time for buying action figures, and that was a Winx Club doll. But never for Star Wars, TMNT, GI Joe, etc.
I've never had a hard time either, must be just certain people in certain areas.
As I work at Wal-mart and have people of all ages coming into the store I never give them a hard time since I collect myself.
Hell I'm right there with them when they complain that they can't ever find anything, my wal-mart hardly ever gets anything good in.
We have yet to even get the wal-mart exclusive marvel legends figures!
Oh noes, the minimum wage cashier at Walmart might not approve of my buying habits for the 30 seconds of my life I'm in contact with him. Boohoo.
Watch it woman lol!:lol:
but yeah who cares what others think of you, if you enjoy it do it I say.

[GK Punk]

Awesome, I'll keep an eye on my local TRU then.

[Candy Kappa]

I hope my "special needs" store will get a hold of the old tmnt. I hardly bet I can count on the Toys 'R us back here they suck a monkey through a fire hose

[Ninjinister]

My TRU is hit or miss. They had Fast Forward wave 1 way before anyone else I knew, even online, but it took them forever to get the Dark Turtles and wave 2 of the movie figures. I don't even think they have Sub-Sewer there to this day.

[Jester]

Oh noes, the minimum wage cashier at Walmart might not approve of my buying habits for the 30 seconds of my life I'm in contact with him. Boohoo.
Dang Rose...save that venom for Laird. :P

[Kendamu]

actually I find that being female has it's advantages in that department. no one has ever given me weird looks when I go to buy new toys, specially when I bring my niece's and nephew's with me. they just assume that the toys are for the kids. :lol:
I generally get weird looks when buying things such as several TPBs at once or whatever when I'm at a normal bookstore. What really weirds them out, though, is that I'm dressed, groomed, and acting completely normal and if anyone comments on my buying habits I generally respond in a very friendly way as if they were making small talk and I'm completely oblivious to the fact that whatever I'm buying might be strange to a lot of people.

It just messes with people so much when I start clashing stereotypes together like that and act like it's no big deal. They just don't know what to do so they just go back to minding their own business.

[NoPressApril]

Oh noes, the minimum wage cashier at Walmart might not approve of my buying habits for the 30 seconds of my life I'm in contact with him. Boohoo.

Feel better now?:P


I've never had a hard time either, must be just certain people in certain areas.

I think it's the area too. There must be a heckuva lot of scalpers around here. A few years ago I even had the manager at one local Wal-Mart tell me that I am a scalper because I am an adult who buys figures and not to come back because they wouldn't help me anymore after asking him about the Wal-Mart exclusive wave of WWE figures that had a Lita figure in it that I wanted. They seem to see scalpers everywhere and treat people accordingly. I guess that's why I hate scalpers so much.

[Krueger]

I don't buy the whole "found these at Target" deal. I'm sure they'll be in there within the month, but what makes his Target so special and ours nothing but chopped liver?! Nonetheless, I told myself I would only buy Shredder and Slash but I think I'm caving now that I see the packages. Maybe there will be 100 different Slash variants I can spend my money on again.

[METALHEAD]

ah--hah...ah oh my GAWD! dudes! i love the packaginfg! DVD?? dudes! kids could learn of the orginal tmnt and have the orginal toys as well im freaking out dudes! I'M GETTING FLASH BACKS FROM MY CHILDHOOD LOOKING AT THE ORIGINAL BOX ART!!

[Ninjinister]

At least somebody's excited.

[Candy Kappa]

there have been dvd release of the old cartoon before so the dvds is no biggie

[METALHEAD]

At least somebody's excited.

yes i am. very much excited. its a chance to rebuy all those old toys of my childhood. dunno why so many fans bitch. i for one am happy

[DonsAssistant]

I don't buy the whole "found these at Target" deal. I'm sure they'll be in there within the month, but what makes his Target so special and ours nothing but chopped liver?!

I was all excited and showed a friend this thread yesterday so he could see the pics and his reply was "yeah I saw those today". I was like "pictures?" and he said, "no, at target". He's in Ohio. He said it was just the four turtles. They don't have them out where I am but I guess they're around somewhere.

[NoPressApril]

yes i am. very much excited. its a chance to rebuy all those old toys of my childhood. dunno why so many fans bitch. i for one am happy

Well i'm as excited as you are about these but on the other hand I can understand why alot of fans are pissed. To me these are awesome because i'm a MOMC collector and this is brand new packaging, another variation and another chapter in the vintage line that I love so much. However, if I opened my toys these would just be figures that I already own and don't need again so I would feel pretty shafted having stuck with this line for 21 years with nothing but Hot Topic t-shirts to celebrate the anniversary with. Oh, and the possibility of a pantless Shredder variation that looks like an 80's Masters of the Universe reject. Couple that with the fact that $8.99 a piece beats the hell outta what people have had to pay on Ebay to get these same figures for years now and i'd say i'm surprised that people aren't bitching more.

[TheMasterTurtle]

I was all excited and showed a friend this thread yesterday so he could see the pics and his reply was "yeah I saw those today". I was like "pictures?" and he said, "no, at target". He's in Ohio. He said it was just the four turtles. They don't have them out where I am but I guess they're around somewhere.


I live in Ohio.. I was at a target last night and only saw one figure. I plan to keep my eyes peeled so I'll keep you guys informed if I see them..

[BigApple3AM]

I was going to try and wait until they hit other stores to see if the $9 was the actual price but I saw them at Target and bought a set. It was just two sets of the four turtles, which is what I imagine is the case they're shipping right now. They were $8.99 and said classic turtles. It's possible that's the price for the mirage inspired figures, target has messed up prices before (Target Marvel Legends being $15 because of the Foom wave, they later dropped them to $10 and I got burned on that one).

I noticed the paint looks a little more flat on the plastron. Of the 8 figures at least 4 or 5 had lousy paint apps, especially on the knee/arm pads and teeth. Good luck guys!

Edit: Oh by the way, it was ****ing incredible to see these in stores again, especially Target since that's where I got a lot of my original figures back in the day.

Double Edit: Sorry I'm kind of surprised how excited I am about these but I just realized that since the original turtle toys were made in 1988, the same figures have been rereleased in both decades since. The figures were still being released into the 90's but they were all rereleased in 1998/99. Now they're being reissued in 2009. Will they continue in 2019? 2029? ;)

[IamtheKnight]

Was this a super target? And where was it? Can you take pics? Which figures did you see?

[BigApple3AM]

Normal Target, IL, just the four turtles as I said, and any picture I take would be the same as the one on page 1 of this thread.

Also, the four turtles all come with different episodes. They're all from season 1. Leo - Episode 1 Turtle Tracks
Don - Episode 2 Enter the Shredder
Raph - Episode 3 A thing about Rats
Mike - Episode 4 Hot Rodding Teenagers from Dimension X

They're all labeled right on the DVD. Pretty cool. I'm not sure if the episodes they come with are random but I imagine it's specific.

[IamtheKnight]

Thanks! I might try this weekend.

[LeoNerdo]

i'm pretty excited for these now that i've seen pictures. when i was a kid i only had a few of the turtles and splinter and those are lost somewhere in the recesses of my parent's attic. haha. if they do indeed release a box with all 4 ill wait and look for that. otherwise i really wanna get slash, rockstead & bebop. my turtles never had anybody to fight but themselves lol.

[A little *too* Raph]

I just got back from target and all they had were empty pegs. At least I know they are available.

[GK Punk]

My Target is the same way. That just means they'll probably get them in stock before too long.

[dripgutz24]

WOW! they are all over ebay.

[Canadian Turtle]

I was down in the US today and grabbed two of them at Target but thats all they had left.

has anyone seen any at TRU? Because we don't have Target and Wal-Mart sucks.

[Krueger]

WOW! they are all over ebay.

Yeah, seriously. And I'm already sick of seeing the prices jacked up on 'em. Ughhh.

[Archon_Turtle]

This actually kind of puts a smile on my face...

So I went to target tonight looking for the anniversary turtles, and they were sold out. I asked a target employee about them and he checked his cool little Target palm pilot thing (that is connected to target's network) and we saw that every single target in the Los Angeles area is currently reporting being sold out of the figures. As much as it sucks that I couldn't pick some up for myself...I'm ****ing thrilled that they appear to be selling that well! :-)

[turkishproverb]

As a guy who's worked at Target alot I gotta tell you, that could aslo mean Playmates simply didn't ship many.

[Archon_Turtle]

As a guy who's worked at Target alot I gotta tell you, that could aslo mean Playmates simply didn't ship many.

Stop shattering my happy place!

[jimmyjams]

Stop shattering my happy place!

haha!!

Where in Cali are you Archon?? I am in Orange County, ive been to acouple of targets, walmars, and toys r us and no one has them.

Is playmates still located in Costa Mesa??

[Raphael_]

Uhm, can anyone explain the photos at this link?

http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=20&itemid=13789

Sounds like the toon fans got the sh*t end of the stick.

[GK Punk]

Different toyline. Those are playmates Highly Articulated line.

[Raphael_]

Does that mean we're going to be seeing toon versions of these also?

[turkishproverb]

Why not, half the parts look like they came from the movie figures anyway.

[VaughnMichael]

yes i am. very much excited. its a chance to rebuy all those old toys of my childhood. dunno why so many fans bitch. i for one am happy
Because these toys havn't been hard to find at all, the box designs are horrible, and Shredder is pantless, and that Mini Krang is from the 1994 android body which they could have easily added to the lineup.
Many of these figures go on sale on ebay and at much less than stores are charging for these umpteenth re-releases.
The only one I could honestly see myself getting is Slash as he has never been re-released.
Also, the four turtles all come with different episodes. They're all from season 1. Leo - Episode 1 Turtle Tracks
Don - Episode 2 Enter the Shredder
Raph - Episode 3 A thing about Rats
Mike - Episode 4 Hot Rodding Teenagers from Dimension X

They're all labeled right on the DVD. Pretty cool. I'm not sure if the episodes they come with are random but I imagine it's specific.
Now that's a pretty cool incentive.
WOW! they are all over ebay.
And this is why no one can find them in stores lol
Does that mean we're going to be seeing toon versions of these also?
If you mean figures that look exactly as they did in the old toon, then no Peter Laird stated in his blog that he feels there is no such reason for figures to be made of those designs and that the old Playmates toys are good enough.
The man doesn't know toys very well do he?
I don't know about anyone else but I'd kill for a Rocksteady with his potbelly. lol

[Blade Raider]

Normal Target, IL, just the four turtles as I said, and any picture I take would be the same as the one on page 1 of this thread.

Also, the four turtles all come with different episodes. They're all from season 1. Leo - Episode 1 Turtle Tracks
Don - Episode 2 Enter the Shredder
Raph - Episode 3 A thing about Rats
Mike - Episode 4 Hot Rodding Teenagers from Dimension X

They're all labeled right on the DVD. Pretty cool. I'm not sure if the episodes they come with are random but I imagine it's specific.
So, who wants to guess what episodes the rest come with?

My guesses if the missing episodes aren't included:
Shredder/Krang: Shredder & Splintered
Splinter: Splinter No More
April: April's Fool
Casey Jones: Casey Jones: Outlaw Hero
Slash: Slash - The Evil Turtle from Dimension X
Rocksteady: The Adventures of Rhino-Man
Bebop: Bebop and Rocksteady Conquer the Universe
Foot Soldier: The Foot Soldiers Are Revolting

Notice that aside from Rocksteady everyone's name is in the title (and even then, Rhino-Man is Rocksteady). I really hope I'm wrong and the missing episodes are with the figures, especially since I've NEVER SEEN THEM

*Rolls off cursing Liongate...*

[IamtheKnight]

I just got all four turtles! This brings back childhood memories. Now here is one question I would like to ask: Should I open them or keep them in the box?

[beechhead]

Keep 'em boxed up - once you open them, the thrill is gone (for me, at least) - the packaging is a gigantic part of the appeal/nostalgia...

[Krueger]

Found them at Target but only bought Michelangelo and Leonardo for now. The sticker was bubbled up on the one Raph they had and the card was bent on the Donatello. Needless to say, I'm an anal box collector.

The first Target I went to was sold out. Then I went to the "Scan and Service" center they have and it told me that every other Target in my area had them! Good system, bad luck.

[sdp]

Are the episodes in better quality than the Lionsgate Season 1 dvd?

[Canadian Turtle]

I was going to ask something similar as I wanted to know what the DVD menu was like.

ALSO HAS ANYONE found any official info on this? I SERIOUSLY want to know when or if they will be coming out in other stores. OR in Canada. We don't have Targets so I am a little pissed that A. they don't seem to be anywhere else other than Target and B. we have heard nothing about release dates.

[TheMasterTurtle]

I just had a look at the artwork for these figures. Now I've read through this read and heard mention about the old packaging which I remembered and loved and what good reason playmates had for not choosing those old ones again.

I personally love the box art as it's the vintage artwork compiling all the characters being released in this anniversary set. I for one thing they did a great job with the box art. Any thoughts?

I'm going to dig up my old card backings. When I opened all the figures back in the day I had a nasty habit of keeping the card backing of every guy :). I'd like to check and see if this new card has been sampled from the old ones or not, though im sure it has been.

[BigApple3AM]

I saved all my cards too. The cardback is reminiscent of the original 88 cardback with slash and casey jones thrown in. It is disappointing they didn't keep the bio cards, but I'm glad they kept the comic strip at the top (which coincidentally shows Shredder WITH pants).

I wouldn't mind having one generic card, but the layout is just weird. April's just a torso in the bottom right corner. Everything just looks so smashed and drag and dropped. I think the same effect could have been done better.

[VaughnMichael]

I personally love the box art as it's the vintage artwork compiling all the characters being released in this anniversary set. I for one thing they did a great job with the box art. Any thoughts?
Yes, it's not the old art I have a problem with it's the fact that the layout is so poorly designed and crammed together, not to mention how bad the perspective is with some of the characters in conjunction of other characters on the box.
Everything just looks randomly slapped together as if it was done in a rush without a care in the world.
Quality controll hasn't been one of Playmates strong points since their return to the scene in 2002, but seriously this is just a mess.
I wouldn't say it was bad if it wasn't, because I've given them plently of praise over the years.
I think they should have had some new Box art created for each character like Peter Laird was working on but then was rejected by Playmates.
I know the toy market is odd right now and box art has been generic since the late 90's but hell even the G.I. Joe and Transformers figure all had their own box art for the anniversary figures.
As bitter as I am about them not making toon acurate figures instead of these, I would have gladly plopped down money for the umpteenth re-release of these figures had they actually put a bit of work into the package designs.

All and all a nice thought but the execution is poor.

[Blade Raider]

I just had a look at the artwork for these figures. Now I've read through this read and heard mention about the old packaging which I remembered and loved and what good reason playmates had for not choosing those old ones again.
Because they all have had the same cards for each wave ever since the movie line started. They can't afford different card for each, so they tried to put everyone on the front and cut the file cards (though they should have included them in the bubble like the ones from the mid 90's).

Hope that's what you ment. By the way you said it, I couldn't tell if you wanted them to reprint the originals (which are some of the only card art that makes me want any MISB) or so pointing out that it looks fine.

[Snailman]

I don't buy the whole "found these at Target" deal. I'm sure they'll be in there within the month, but what makes his Target so special and ours nothing but chopped liver?! Nonetheless, I told myself I would only buy Shredder and Slash but I think I'm caving now that I see the packages. Maybe there will be 100 different Slash variants I can spend my money on again.

I saw these at Target today & nearly freaked out. Not so much 'cause of the turtles (as I have them already), but because I thought there would be Foot Soldiers there- which there wasn't. :ohwell:

Here's a picture I took with my cell phone whilst I was in Target:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/TheBoglin/Pics%20of%20toys/011009_1654.jpg

I have the majority of these figures already, but I DO know my little Snailman-self will be buying lots of Foot Soldiers soon as I see them on the shelf. I've been trying to build up my Foot Soldiers since I was a kid & to this day I only have like, 6 or so. This 25th Ann. toyline is gonna be a HUGE help in me getting my army built up nicely. :D

I agree with people's opinion of the tiny Krang being with Shredder. Seems like it'd be cooler just to release him IN that android body of his, but maybe they figured it'd just be easier to kill 2 birds with 1 stone & have him as a pack-in.

Still don't know why Shredder has no pants though...

-Snailman

[Blade Raider]

I have the majority of these figures already, but I DO know my little Snailman-self will be buying lots of Foot Soldiers soon as I see them on the shelf. I've been trying to build up my Foot Soldiers since I was a kid & to this day I only have like, 6 or so. This 25th Ann. toyline is gonna be a HUGE help in me getting my army built up nicely. :D
I too dream of a Foot army. Don't know why, but I love that mold. My problem is the price tag. $9-11 is what I'm hearing. It will be almost cheaper to make my custom Foot army using Marvel Universe Ronin paint included. Still, it's nice to see more of it made.

EDIT: Off topic, but has anyone seen the Marvel Universe figures yet? I'm not sure if their out yet or not.

[Snailman]

I too dream of a Foot army. Don't know why, but I love that mold. My problem is the price tag. $9-11 is what I'm hearing. It will be almost cheaper to make my custom Foot army using Marvel Universe Ronin paint included. Still, it's nice to see more of it made.

These figures were $8.99 at Target, which is still a bit of a hike compared to their original price tag of $3.99 back when they first came out. My whole way to "deal" with the price increase is, if I were to go out & try to buy a MOC original Foot Soldier it's gonna cost me at least 10 bucks anyways, if not a little more (or less if I find a good deal). Plus, I first have to find the original MOC Foot Soldier, then pay for shipping, so in the long run (at least, as far as I see it), it just pays to slap down the $9 dollars & save myself some time. Plus, with Foot Soldiers, if you already have 1 with the Bio Card/Cardback, do you really need one for every other Foot Soldier we'd buy?

Also, I wonder if the price is due to the DVD being included, OR simply Playmates trying to milk more money out of the collector community? AND, will only the turtles be coming with DVD's, or will all of the toys be?

EDIT: Off topic, but has anyone seen the Marvel Universe figures yet? I'm not sure if their out yet or not.

Not me, & I traveled ALL over the place today; went to one store reeeeally far from my house & hit a lot of places on the way back (4 Stop & Shops & 2 Target's). Only real "new" toys I saw were the 25th TMNT figures. The Target that picture was taken in only have 1 Dons & 2 Mikeys, the 2nd Target had all 4 but nothing else.

-Snailman

[dripgutz24]

The target I went to today had two of each 25th anniversary figs, so I bought a set of all 4 turtles, when I seen them in the toy section I felt like a kid again it was awesome, but anyways I watched 2 of the dvd's and the quality is the same as the old toon dvd quality so they did'nt upgrade it.

[Venom]

As I work at Wal-mart and...We have yet to even get the wal-mart exclusive marvel legends figures!



OT, I know, but are you referring to the figures like Kang and Heroes Reborn Iron Man? If so I live in North Alabama and my Wal-Mart has had those figures in stock since before Christmas...right over where the Turtles used to be.

[Brodie]

I went to two Targets, and they hadn't even changed for the new peg tags yet, let alone actually stock any new (old) Turtle toys.

Horse ****!

[turkishproverb]

Targets do things alot more individually than some places. It could take a while. Did you bring the numbers with you to the place?

[VaughnMichael]

EDIT: Off topic, but has anyone seen the Marvel Universe figures yet? I'm not sure if their out yet or not.
Which ones?
OR simply Playmates trying to milk more money out of the collector community?
Not so much collectors as most of us have these things and are over it.
It's obvious what they are aiming for and that is nostalgia, just look around this thread alone and you can see that this is the majority of peoples reasoning for wanting these, even though I see all of these figures pretty cheap on my weekly ebay searches till this day, but hey who am I to tell people what to spend or save money on.
OT, I know, but are you referring to the figures like Kang and Heroes Reborn Iron Man? If so I live in North Alabama and my Wal-Mart has had those figures in stock since before Christmas...right over where the Turtles used to be.
Every Wal-Mart is oddyl differnt with the way it's set up and stocks it's toys or what they get in even.
For whatever reason the Wal-Mart I work at hardly ever gets any good action figures in.
There's pretty much only one in the area that stocks a good amount of action figures, and sadly by the time I get there the scalpers have taken all of the harder to find figures like Crossbones.
But yes Those are the figures I'm talking about I finally found a Kang.
All of my side money has been going to Marvel Legends characters I like as well as Dc Universe ones, Playmates would seriously be smart to finally get on the boat and do a line like those.

[IamtheKnight]

Maybe the four turtles are wave one and the other characters are wave 2?

[CyberCubed]

Are the MOC versions of these toys on ebay honestly cheaper than the ones in stores?

I see them going for almost the same price on ebay.

[prophecy718]

I saw these at Target today & nearly freaked out. Not so much 'cause of the turtles (as I have them already), but because I thought there would be Foot Soldiers there- which there wasn't. :ohwell:

Here's a picture I took with my cell phone whilst I was in Target:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/TheBoglin/Pics%20of%20toys/011009_1654.jpg

I have the majority of these figures already, but I DO know my little Snailman-self will be buying lots of Foot Soldiers soon as I see them on the shelf. I've been trying to build up my Foot Soldiers since I was a kid & to this day I only have like, 6 or so. This 25th Ann. toyline is gonna be a HUGE help in me getting my army built up nicely. :D

I agree with people's opinion of the tiny Krang being with Shredder. Seems like it'd be cooler just to release him IN that android body of his, but maybe they figured it'd just be easier to kill 2 birds with 1 stone & have him as a pack-in.

Still don't know why Shredder has no pants though...

-Snailman

hey what targets did you go to? I'm assuming you're in the NY area which is why i'm asking ?

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

I for one am very excited about these, even though I would have liked to have seen more characters and more cartoon accurate color schemes. I think it is possible that the small Krang may very well be pictured without his Android Body but still be more than a Shredder accessory, they might have done that to save space on the back of the card. We'll have to wait and see...are the turtles the only figures out so far? Really looking forward to these.

[Candy Kappa]

seeing these brings back painful memories how all my first turtles got broken:( (exept for donnie still got him)

I soo want these guys back

[Snailman]

hey what targets did you go to? I'm assuming you're in the NY area which is why i'm asking ?

They had them at the South Setakuet Target & some other one near Commack I think. It was my first time to that store out in that area, so I don't know "technically" were it is located, but both had the figures. The Sout Setakuet Target actually had more, were as the othr store just have 2 Mikey's & a Donny on the pegs.

-Snailman

[Spitfire]

I live in Cali and went to three Targets, nothing. This is common though we never get jack **** over here. All those Marvel Legends toys and collectible stuff we never get, ever. Unless the basement jockeys hawk the toy aisles and buy them all before I ever see them. From what I've noticed they never stock the action figure aisle at all. Almost every Target, or toy store, I go into has the same figures they had before and almost all the pegs are empty. What they do have left is usually a bunch of the same character, like some fat guy from Star Wars.

I know they're doing resets right now but if the Targets on the east coast are already done there's no reason they shouldn't have done it already over here, lazy bastards. It takes like four days to do a reset and they let you wear street clothes when you do it so customers don't bother you.

[NoPressApril]

What they do have left is usually a bunch of the same character, like some fat guy from Star Wars.

Poor Yarna D'al Gargan, even with six breasts she still can't get no love. :cry:

[Raphael_]

Poor Yarna D'al Gargan, even with six breasts she still can't get no love. :cry:

Yep, still warmin the pegs, they're milking her for all she's got.

[BigApple3AM]

Yep, still warmin the pegs, they're milking her for all she's got.

Oh sweet jesus, the mental pictures...

[Candy Kappa]

^heres some gasoline it helps :D

does anyone know if they come to toy's r us?

[VaughnMichael]

^heres some gasoline it helps :D

does anyone know if they come to toy's r us?
They will be sold at Toys R Us if that's what you're asking.

[Drtooth]

I'm just gonna say, I saw these yesterday, and I have to admit, I like what they're trying to do. By which I mean, I don't like how they've done it, I don't like how they've gone about it... but I like what they intended.

Looking at them, I think the box art is Meh... at least we didn't get saddled with rererererererereused stock art. And I think including a pack in DVD was pretty brilliant. Sure, it's an episode we probably all have by now in our completest box sets/volumes... but I think that these weren't designed for the hard core fan base that has every figure five times over, and has collected them even during the dry spell 1996-2001 era, and the reissued repacks that sold at KB for 3 bucks each (Kicking myself for not buying many of them). These are clearly for the kids who grew out of them, lost or destroyed them, and didn't care to check E-bay because they would see these in a store and say "Dude, used to have these. And since they have a 25th sticker on them, I automatically care about these again."

There are a couple things I do find fault with myself... first of all, the price. 8.99? These things should clearly retail for 7 bucks or less. The one thing I always liked about Playmates and the 2k3 line was that when other companies were stocking hard sell 10 dollar and up figures, they still managed to sell TMNT at 5 to 6 to 7 at the highest. Secondly, these things are begging for figure bases. Nothing fancy... just a black (or green) circle of plastic with a peg in it, maybe stamped to say "25th" on it. And Third, I always hated the plastic card with the weopons on it. But I see what they're getting at.

And you gotta admit, they put fan favorite Slash in the line up. That completely shocked me. It's almost sort of kind of listening to fans, I guess.

I kinda wanna get Bebop, Rocksteady and Casey, though.


Oh just so everyone knows there will be box sets of the old TMNT figures as well.
Or well that is what I've been told.

I think that is a more brilliant idea. I would really be willing to get a box set of the figures if the Box is well designed enough, and comes with some sort of bonus. And not just a DVD. Just don't make it as extravagant as the 25th Optimus Prime... that really bumped the price up to an incredibly high 60+ bucks.

[Candy Kappa]

They will be sold at Toys R Us if that's what you're asking.

hopefully they'll manage at my place to get them, in the movie line 2/3 if the figures the imported was splinters, few turtles and even fewer other chars. I never saw shredder, karai or the golden warrior guy.

EDIT: look look http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=PLM10838&mode=retail

[Splinter]

EDIT: Off topic, but has anyone seen the Marvel Universe figures yet? I'm not sure if their out yet or not.
Release date is March 1st.

[Canadian Turtle]

Release date is March 1st.

Ok why the F do people know the release dates for other figures but no one knows them for these figures??

[turkishproverb]

Because playmates is the worst toy company on the market.

[Splinter]

And because Hasbro has an 'On Shelf Date' for Marvel Universe and Wolverine.

[Buslady]

it's real cos i jsut picked up my retro-Raphie at Target.
What's wrong with the package, it's just about the same as it was back in the day.

im laughing at that ebay ad, "VHTF"???? yeah right go to target, they're right there on the pegs. $8.99

[Tinuvielsdreams]

Grrr I hope we have better luck at a Cali Target this weekend. I just want to see one for myself! Spit was right, it was so sad when we went. There was lots of empty space but no new Turtles anywhere

[VaughnMichael]

What's wrong with the package, it's just about the same as it was back in the day.
Really?
http://www.ezauctionet.com/ebay_photos/3345a.jpghttp://www.ezauctionet.com/ebay_photos/3345c.jpg
A well constructed design that isn't graphically hard on the eyes and laid out perfectly.
http://i9.ebayimg.com/03/i/001/29/84/f2c6_1.JPG
A Slopped together mess of a design, infact it looks as if no care was put into the box design at all.
As I've said before the sizing on the background and foreground characters are just horrible and really off, and don't even get my started on the crop job and that giant sticker.
The Art isn't the problem, the way it's used is.

[Blade Raider]

Thanks Splinter :D

Ok why the F do people know the release dates for other figures but no one knows them for these figures??
It's traditional for toy companies not to give an exact release date. However, in recent years some companies started listening to fan demand for a release date. Hasbro's one such company. I'm not sure, but I think it started with Star Wars and went so well they started to do so for their other big lines.

Anyways...Oh boy, it's analogy time!

WARNING: Bad puns ahead...
I see the toy aisles as a chess board monarchy. There's the most important company, the King, which if captured it's pretty much all over. Hasbro is the King with Transformers, GI Joe, Star Wars, and Marvel the toy aisles wouldn't be the same without them. Mattel is the queen. Powerful, but not the most important (Also, they don't make many good action figures, but they still command a lot of power). Marvel Toys/ToyBiz is the Bishop. Ever since they lost Marvel, they just kind of zigzag trying to find another great one like Marvel Legends. The Rook would be Bandai. Power Rangers has been the power house since it started, but Bandai doesn't offer much else. They just keep going straight with the formula that has worked for 16-17 years. Playmates is the Knight. They want to be good, but they can only seem to make left turns. Then all the other small and off-brand companies are the pawns.

...Yes, this what I do with my extra time...and no, I don't know how I got on that subject...

[Buslady]

I c what u mean :P

Grrr I hope we have better luck at a Cali Target this weekend. I just want to see one for myself! Spit was right, it was so sad when we went. There was lots of empty space but no new Turtles anywhere


Well, in SoCal, they're out.

[Blade Raider]

:lol: I love how Raph is posed the same in both boxes.

Maybe I just need to see it in person, but I think the new boxes look fine. Better than that porta potty brown they've been using since the movie line started :dead:

[Ninjinister]

Anyways...Oh boy, it's analogy time!

WARNING: Bad puns ahead...
I see the toy aisles as a chess board monarchy. There's the most important company, the King, which if captured it's pretty much all over. Hasbro is the King with Transformers, GI Joe, Star Wars, and Marvel the toy aisles wouldn't be the same without them. Mattel is the queen. Powerful, but not the most important (Also, they don't make many good action figures, but they still command a lot of power). Marvel Toys/ToyBiz is the Bishop. Ever since they lost Marvel, they just kind of zigzag trying to find another great one like Marvel Legends. The Rook would be Bandai. Power Rangers has been the power house since it started, but Bandai doesn't offer much else. They just keep going straight with the formula that has worked for 16-17 years. Playmates is the Knight. They want to be good, but they can only seem to make left turns. Then all the other small and off-brand companies are the pawns.

...Yes, this what I do with my extra time...and no, I don't know how I got on that subject...

Well said, and better than my "Playmates-is-a-tobacco-company" analogy. Though if you worked at my office, I'd likely shout "nerd!" at you at this point :lol:

[Wes]

Yes, that was brilliant! But is Marvel Toys zigzagging to another line? I thought it was dead.

I also don't think Playmates is seriously trying to compete with the big boys. If the company were, it would do exceedingly well to steal a better articulation mode for its figuresl! It's not like those things are copyrighted.

Not that that suggestion applies to the 25th anniversary rereleases, but still. :)

[Splinter]

Marvel Toys/ToyBiz is the Bishop.
Not anymore. Marvel Toys/ToyBiz is officially dead.

The company was dissolved entirely a little while ago.

[Blade Raider]

Not anymore. Marvel Toys/ToyBiz is officially dead.

The company was dissolved entirely a little while ago.

Really, I thought they've been doing that wrestling line (and thus I've ignored them). Guess I'll have to rewrite my analogy now. What other toy companies are there that aren't tiny or comic shop companies?

[Wes]

Jakks Pacific? They're the ones doing the wrestling figures, and I believe they picked up the American Gladiators license as well.

I am totally looking forward to getting Crush and Phoenix figures. :D

[DonsAssistant]

Jakks Pacific? They're the ones doing the wrestling figures
Thats WWE that has been with Jakks. Toybiz has/had the TNA license. Jakks is losing WWE. WWE will be made by mattel. TNA is moving to Jakks.

Jakks was wrapped up (along with THQ) in a lawsuit over the licensing agreements with WWE because of some sort of palm greasing involving a brand licensing agent who used to be with WWE. Now that the contract is ending, WWE and Jakks are parting ways. So its already been announced that Toybiz isn't going to be doing the TNA they have been doing.

[Wes]

Thats WWE that has been with Jakks. Toybiz has/had the TNA license. Jakks is losing WWE. WWE will be made by mattel. TNA is moving to Jakks.
Yeah, I meant that as in current wrestling figures! And I did know that Mattel will be getting WWE. That should prove... interesting.

I wish Mattel were getting American Gladiators as well... then maybe they could have the 4H sculpt my beloved Phoenix and Crush. ;)

[Nick Kell]

I wish Mattel were getting American Gladiators as well... then maybe they could have the 4H sculpt my beloved Phoenix and Crush. ;)
American Gladiators was canceled. No one's making those toys.

[DonsAssistant]

jakks acquired the license for american gladiators. they figures are/were supposed to be coming out in "spring 2009". Like the last poster said, the show was canceled, so it seems like a bad move to bring out figures at this point, but if it all depends on how far into production they got before the plug was pulled on the tv show. they may still drop (right into the clearance bin) in a couple of months...

for all I know though, the last poster is aware while I am not, of a specific announcement saying the figures were canceled due to the show being dropped. It all depends on how far along they were in production. It was announced that jakks got the license in march 08. It was announced that the show was canceled in december. Thats a lot of time for jakks to have been putting into a product before the show got the axe.

[Wes]

...but if it all depends on how far into production they got before the plug was pulled on the tv show. they may still drop (right into the clearance bin) in a couple of months...
You see these fingers? They are crossed. ;)

[Kendamu]

Really?
*old boxart front image snip*

*old boxart back image snip*

A well constructed design that isn't graphically hard on the eyes and laid out perfectly.

*new boxart front image snip*

A Slopped together mess of a design, infact it looks as if no care was put into the box design at all.
As I've said before the sizing on the background and foreground characters are just horrible and really off, and don't even get my started on the crop job and that giant sticker.
The Art isn't the problem, the way it's used is.
I have an MOC figure with the old boxart already. I don't mind the change here. I do prefer the old design where the cards were dedicated to one figure, but my attention is elsewhere at the moment when it comes to things I might wanna nitpick about.

[VaughnMichael]

I have an MOC figure with the old boxart already. I don't mind the change here. I do prefer the old design where the cards were dedicated to one figure, but my attention is elsewhere at the moment when it comes to things I might wanna nitpick about.
Just my own graphic design junky gripes.

[Kendamu]

Just my own graphic design junky gripes.
It isn't that I don't nitpick. I have other things to nitpick about. :D

[Chrissie Terrapin]

mine is gonna be out of the box anyway^^

[VaughnMichael]

It isn't that I don't nitpick. I have other things to nitpick about. :D
It's just hard not to nitpick about things like this when you do this stuff for a living, and went to school for it for years.
So this is why I'm overly critical at times, that and the turtles have had much better box layouts over the years.
It would have perhaps been better if they split the box into 2 designs Good Guys & Bad Guys so they didn't squeez to many characters onto one box front making for perspectives and bad sizing that make my head want to explode.

[Jester]

Now there in lies the question: I have the 98 re-releases still on the card, I plan on buying these also. Should I buy 2, one to open and one to keep on the card? Should I just open the 10 year old figures and replace them with MOC 25th Anniversary figs? Should I track down Dave Garcia and have him autograph my Panda Kahn? Ok, that one's kinda out there...I'm kinda sleep deprived at the moment.

[Chrissie Terrapin]

buy 2 and open one. and post it on youtube!^_~

[Snailman]

EDIT: look look http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=PLM10838&mode=retail

:o :o :o AWESOME!!! I still actually have my old Party Wagon, but I wonder if that means we'll be seeing some other re-issued vehicles too? I'd like to see the Mutant Module be re-released. Namely as that's one of the Foot vehicles I A) never got as a kid & B) have yet to buy as a collector.

Nice find duder. :D

It's just hard not to nitpick about things like this when you do this stuff for a living, and went to school for it for years.
So this is why I'm overly critical at times, that and the turtles have had much better box layouts over the years.
It would have perhaps been better if they split the box into 2 designs Good Guys & Bad Guys so they didn't squeez to many characters onto one box front making for perspectives and bad sizing that make my head want to explode.

Yeah, totally. Even the one with Raph holding the figure wouldn't have been bad. But I like your idea about splitting the art between good guys & bad guys. What they COULD have done, was have 3 different types of card art:

- All 4 Turtles

- Splinter, April & Casey Jones

- Shredder/Krang, Rocksteady, Bebop, Slash & Foot Soldier

That might not have been TOO bad, & at the very least not as crowded.

Actually, wasn't this new packaging done already when the turtle toys were released over seas?? :-?

-Snailman

[DonsAssistant]

It's just hard not to nitpick about things like this when you do this stuff for a living, and went to school for it for years.

Hey Vaughn, Didn't you say you worked at walmart like over and over again?

When an art director or executive type in a suit tells an art department employee that based on the production numbers and given a specific budget they're required to produce a single cardback using the old card art its not being lazy or bad at their job when they complete the task. Perhaps they all want to do more and can't because of time or budget issues. Its time for you to learn how the BUSINESS of graphic design or other production works and stop talking about how you bust your butt looking for work and actually begin outputting work rather than posting here hundreds of times a day about how you could do it all better and acting as though you're some kind of authority on something you have nothing to do with. You're not aware of how many man hours can paid out for design costs on a project. At a certain point, from a business perspective, the more labor based art efforts result in only marginally better sales, yet increase costs in major ways. How many people that WERE going to buy the figures now WON'T because the card is generic with 'poorly designed art'? Weigh that against the cost of printing up individual cards or, as you suggested one good and one evil. In the end, the actions you suggest lead to more cost, but not to more sales. Its just nitpicking from a fanboy you can't please. A couch quarterback, a backseat driver, a takeout chef. You'll always think you know more and assert your opinion online as though others care what YOU think.

Ok, you don't like something, constructive criticism is fine. Everyone has an opinion. Just don't bitch and moan about how you can do it all better because you're jealous of those people in those jobs. Don't try to convince fans you know how the business works. You aren't a professional graphic designer. Perhaps you dabble in freelance once in a while, but you have said time and again, you stock shelves at WALMART. If I am wrong, link me to your online portfolio and I will eat my words. Oh, hahahaha, before I go any, further slapping sculpy on an "entrigan the demon" figure's head and repainting him doesn't count. I want to see where the work is that you got paid to produce that was released commercially.

You said the new playmates turtles were copies of the movie figures then bitched for two pages on the other thread about playmate's laziness. You have a terrible eye for detail. I can tell you, you are a joke where I work. You even use your real name as your ID while you run your mouth off about how you know it all hahahahhaha. Walmart, man, WALMART!

With your attitude put right out there on a forum like this, always knocking down anything new that's made, especially when you email your contacts, you're not in the process of getting work in that field. They know you as a big fanboy nitpicking critic. They try to be polite to you so you don't continue to drag people's names through the dirt. Everyone who is actually in the business is lazy, stupid, or some other negative quality in your eyes unless you have personal contact with them and they give you "insider" information. In which case, you feel they're victims of the same idiot run machine that is keeping good ideas out.

Dude, you work at walmart. Other guys, the ones who you think are idiots, MAKE ninja turtles cartoons, toys and comics. If you can do it better, get off your butt and do it. There is more to the BUSINESS of doing graphic design than nitpicking other people's work and having a bunch of ideas. If you can do it better, present your non-existent portfolio to playmates and try to get hired. Getting told "you don't have what it takes" a few times might open your eyes in seeing you have nothing under your belt and you're an arrogant, cocky, opinionated fanboy-one who wasted a lot of mommy and daddy's money going to college for nothing. Perhaps being rejected a few times with slap some sense into your head and you'll actually see how much work you have ahead of you if you wish to get into a professional setting.

Dude, you work at walmart. You're not a graphic designer for a living. There is a reason my name was DonsAssistant and I have been very positive on these threads. This is my last post. You sir, are a plight of epic proportions on TMNT fandom and I wish you would grow up and see 1-YOU WORK AT WALMART and 2-calling every move made by people in the business stupid or lazy isn't going to help anyone in any capacity. It doesn't make you a fan. It makes you a wannabe creative talent. If you don't think we'd like to do more but at times are shackled by time and budget restraints you're on a different world. It just points out your ignorance. This isn't the fine art 'I'll get it done when I feel like and I do it because I want to express my feelings'-make believe world. We all know who 'Vaughn Michael' is in my office and if you think this is how you get work, man you definitely have a lot to learn.

[Ninjinister]

Rant.

What the Hell?

[Samhain]

Hey Vaughn, Didn't you say you worked at walmart like over and over again?

When an art director or executive type in a suit tells an art department employee that based on the production numbers and given a specific budget they're required to produce a single cardback using the old card art its not being lazy or bad at their job when they complete the task. Perhaps they all want to do more and can't because of time or budget issues. Its time for you to learn how the BUSINESS of graphic design or other production works and stop talking about how you bust your butt looking for work and actually begin outputting work rather than posting here hundreds of times a day about how you could do it all better and acting as though you're some kind of authority on something you have nothing to do with. You're not aware of how many man hours can paid out for design costs on a project. At a certain point, from a business perspective, the more labor based art efforts result in only marginally better sales, yet increase costs in major ways. How many people that WERE going to buy the figures now WON'T because the card is generic with 'poorly designed art'? Weigh that against the cost of printing up individual cards or, as you suggested one good and one evil. In the end, the actions you suggest lead to more cost, but not to more sales. Its just nitpicking from a fanboy you can't please. A couch quarterback, a backseat driver, a takeout chef. You'll always think you know more and assert your opinion online as though others care what YOU think.

Ok, you don't like something, constructive criticism is fine. Everyone has an opinion. Just don't bitch and moan about how you can do it all better because you're jealous of those people in those jobs. Don't try to convince fans you know how the business works. You aren't a professional graphic designer. Perhaps you dabble in freelance once in a while, but you have said time and again, you stock shelves at WALMART. If I am wrong, link me to your online portfolio and I will eat my words. Oh, hahahaha, before I go any, further slapping sculpy on an "entrigan the demon" figure's head and repainting him doesn't count. I want to see where the work is that you got paid to produce that was released commercially.

You said the new playmates turtles were copies of the movie figures then bitched for two pages on the other thread about playmate's laziness. You have a terrible eye for detail. I can tell you, you are a joke where I work. You even use your real name as your ID while you run your mouth off about how you know it all hahahahhaha. Walmart, man, WALMART!

With your attitude put right out there on a forum like this, always knocking down anything new that's made, especially when you email your contacts, you're not in the process of getting work in that field. They know you as a big fanboy nitpicking critic. They try to be polite to you so you don't continue to drag people's names through the dirt. Everyone who is actually in the business is lazy, stupid, or some other negative quality in your eyes unless you have personal contact with them and they give you "insider" information. In which case, you feel they're victims of the same idiot run machine that is keeping good ideas out.

Dude, you work at walmart. Other guys, the ones who you think are idiots, MAKE ninja turtles cartoons, toys and comics. If you can do it better, get off your butt and do it. There is more to the BUSINESS of doing graphic design than nitpicking other people's work and having a bunch of ideas. If you can do it better, present your non-existent portfolio to playmates and try to get hired. Getting told "you don't have what it takes" a few times might open your eyes in seeing you have nothing under your belt and you're an arrogant, cocky, opinionated fanboy-one who wasted a lot of mommy and daddy's money going to college for nothing. Perhaps being rejected a few times with slap some sense into your head and you'll actually see how much work you have ahead of you if you wish to get into a professional setting.

Dude, you work at walmart. You're not a graphic designer for a living. There is a reason my name was DonsAssistant and I have been very positive on these threads. This is my last post. You sir, are a plight of epic proportions on TMNT fandom and I wish you would grow up and see 1-YOU WORK AT WALMART and 2-calling every move made by people in the business stupid or lazy isn't going to help anyone in any capacity. It doesn't make you a fan. It makes you a wannabe creative talent. If you don't think we'd like to do more but at times are shackled by time and budget restraints you're on a different world. It just points out your ignorance. This isn't the fine art 'I'll get it done when I feel like and I do it because I want to express my feelings'-make believe world. We all know who 'Vaughn Michael' is in my office and if you think this is how you get work, man you definitely have a lot to learn.
dude...chill.

[Spitfire]

Hey Vaughn, Didn't you say you worked at walmart like over and over again?

Who the hell are you and why should anyone care what you have to say? On a side note telling someone off works better when you sound intelligent and don't repeat yourself multiple times.

[Drtooth]

Just my own graphic design junky gripes.

You know what, man... I wonder what (since you're on the MC forum with me) Frogboy would say about something like this. It reminds me of one of his problems about the Muppet stock pictures having random other characters shoved in them, and they have different shadows and stuff all over them that don't match up with the image. And everything in those shots seems so cluttered and ill fitting. You know the image I'm talking about. The group shot with random characters splunched in?

I see what you're getting at after I took a really good look at it. It does seem way too cluttered. in its composition. Plus, wasn't some better art work rejected for this?

[BigApple3AM]

This is my last post.

I guess we found the person who made the card art :-?

Trying to preach about what the real world is like? I don't imagine creative people go on internet forums to bitch back at the fans? Not only did you lower yourself to any fan level, you went lower with all the name calling and "you work at wal-mart?!" ********.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[Ninjinister]

I think it's actually kind of funny how this individual knows a grossly small amount about Vaughn and is publicly calling him out.

Other than that... I stand by my previous statement.

[IamtheKnight]

Hey Vaughn, Didn't you say you worked at walmart like over and over again?

When an art director or executive type in a suit tells an art department employee that based on the production numbers and given a specific budget they're required to produce a single cardback using the old card art its not being lazy or bad at their job when they complete the task. Perhaps they all want to do more and can't because of time or budget issues. Its time for you to learn how the BUSINESS of graphic design or other production works and stop talking about how you bust your butt looking for work and actually begin outputting work rather than posting here hundreds of times a day about how you could do it all better and acting as though you're some kind of authority on something you have nothing to do with. You're not aware of how many man hours can paid out for design costs on a project. At a certain point, from a business perspective, the more labor based art efforts result in only marginally better sales, yet increase costs in major ways. How many people that WERE going to buy the figures now WON'T because the card is generic with 'poorly designed art'? Weigh that against the cost of printing up individual cards or, as you suggested one good and one evil. In the end, the actions you suggest lead to more cost, but not to more sales. Its just nitpicking from a fanboy you can't please. A couch quarterback, a backseat driver, a takeout chef. You'll always think you know more and assert your opinion online as though others care what YOU think.

Ok, you don't like something, constructive criticism is fine. Everyone has an opinion. Just don't bitch and moan about how you can do it all better because you're jealous of those people in those jobs. Don't try to convince fans you know how the business works. You aren't a professional graphic designer. Perhaps you dabble in freelance once in a while, but you have said time and again, you stock shelves at WALMART. If I am wrong, link me to your online portfolio and I will eat my words. Oh, hahahaha, before I go any, further slapping sculpy on an "entrigan the demon" figure's head and repainting him doesn't count. I want to see where the work is that you got paid to produce that was released commercially.

You said the new playmates turtles were copies of the movie figures then bitched for two pages on the other thread about playmate's laziness. You have a terrible eye for detail. I can tell you, you are a joke where I work. You even use your real name as your ID while you run your mouth off about how you know it all hahahahhaha. Walmart, man, WALMART!

With your attitude put right out there on a forum like this, always knocking down anything new that's made, especially when you email your contacts, you're not in the process of getting work in that field. They know you as a big fanboy nitpicking critic. They try to be polite to you so you don't continue to drag people's names through the dirt. Everyone who is actually in the business is lazy, stupid, or some other negative quality in your eyes unless you have personal contact with them and they give you "insider" information. In which case, you feel they're victims of the same idiot run machine that is keeping good ideas out.

Dude, you work at walmart. Other guys, the ones who you think are idiots, MAKE ninja turtles cartoons, toys and comics. If you can do it better, get off your butt and do it. There is more to the BUSINESS of doing graphic design than nitpicking other people's work and having a bunch of ideas. If you can do it better, present your non-existent portfolio to playmates and try to get hired. Getting told "you don't have what it takes" a few times might open your eyes in seeing you have nothing under your belt and you're an arrogant, cocky, opinionated fanboy-one who wasted a lot of mommy and daddy's money going to college for nothing. Perhaps being rejected a few times with slap some sense into your head and you'll actually see how much work you have ahead of you if you wish to get into a professional setting.

Dude, you work at walmart. You're not a graphic designer for a living. There is a reason my name was DonsAssistant and I have been very positive on these threads. This is my last post. You sir, are a plight of epic proportions on TMNT fandom and I wish you would grow up and see 1-YOU WORK AT WALMART and 2-calling every move made by people in the business stupid or lazy isn't going to help anyone in any capacity. It doesn't make you a fan. It makes you a wannabe creative talent. If you don't think we'd like to do more but at times are shackled by time and budget restraints you're on a different world. It just points out your ignorance. This isn't the fine art 'I'll get it done when I feel like and I do it because I want to express my feelings'-make believe world. We all know who 'Vaughn Michael' is in my office and if you think this is how you get work, man you definitely have a lot to learn.


Dude....................................You don't have to be that mad about it

[michaelangelo]

I just got back from target and surprisingly they had all 4 and i got a 2nd mikey. My question is , is april casey and the bad guys released yet? If not when?

[Chrissie Terrapin]

I guess we found the person who made the card art :-?
and he failed
:roll:

[Ninjinister]

I guess we found the person who made the card art

and he failed
:roll:

Ha, nice observation folks.

[Chrissie Terrapin]

must have an eye for detail^^

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

No idea. Murph or Dan would probably know. Or the Playmates representative.

E-mail addresses are:

Murph: [email protected]

Dan: [email protected]

Paula: [email protected]

[Cipher]

So, if I may be so bold, both DonsAssistant and Vaughn have been taking this thing ridiculously hard.

Even as toy collectors, is it so hard to just not give a damn about what the tagboard design is? I can't think of anything more trivial. And when not engaging in a psychotic rant, DonsAssistant made legitimate points about budgets and sales.

[Jester]

Found Raph, Leo, and Mikey at Target today, but only bought my fave Raphie boy.

[BigApple3AM]

Even as toy collectors, is it so hard to just not give a damn about what the tagboard design is? I can't think of anything more trivial.

I completely disagree. These are toys that were released over 20 years ago and were completely flooded back then. Then they released them again 10 years ago and flooded wal-marts, kb toys, targets, k-marts, and toys r us with them again.

The only difference is the packaging. For collectors this makes it the most important part. If it's not very good it's disappointing.

[Archon_Turtle]

not to be a post nazi, but this should probaqbly be merged with the other 25th anniversary rerelease thread we have going...

[Archon_Turtle]

Hey Vaughn, Didn't you say you worked at walmart like over and over again?

When an art director or executive type in a suit tells an art department employee that based on the production numbers and given a specific budget they're required to produce a single cardback using the old card art its not being lazy or bad at their job when they complete the task. Perhaps they all want to do more and can't because of time or budget issues. Its time for you to learn how the BUSINESS of graphic design or other production works and stop talking about how you bust your butt looking for work and actually begin outputting work rather than posting here hundreds of times a day about how you could do it all better and acting as though you're some kind of authority on something you have nothing to do with. You're not aware of how many man hours can paid out for design costs on a project. At a certain point, from a business perspective, the more labor based art efforts result in only marginally better sales, yet increase costs in major ways. How many people that WERE going to buy the figures now WON'T because the card is generic with 'poorly designed art'? Weigh that against the cost of printing up individual cards or, as you suggested one good and one evil. In the end, the actions you suggest lead to more cost, but not to more sales. Its just nitpicking from a fanboy you can't please. A couch quarterback, a backseat driver, a takeout chef. You'll always think you know more and assert your opinion online as though others care what YOU think.

Ok, you don't like something, constructive criticism is fine. Everyone has an opinion. Just don't bitch and moan about how you can do it all better because you're jealous of those people in those jobs. Don't try to convince fans you know how the business works. You aren't a professional graphic designer. Perhaps you dabble in freelance once in a while, but you have said time and again, you stock shelves at WALMART. If I am wrong, link me to your online portfolio and I will eat my words. Oh, hahahaha, before I go any, further slapping sculpy on an "entrigan the demon" figure's head and repainting him doesn't count. I want to see where the work is that you got paid to produce that was released commercially.

You said the new playmates turtles were copies of the movie figures then bitched for two pages on the other thread about playmate's laziness. You have a terrible eye for detail. I can tell you, you are a joke where I work. You even use your real name as your ID while you run your mouth off about how you know it all hahahahhaha. Walmart, man, WALMART!

With your attitude put right out there on a forum like this, always knocking down anything new that's made, especially when you email your contacts, you're not in the process of getting work in that field. They know you as a big fanboy nitpicking critic. They try to be polite to you so you don't continue to drag people's names through the dirt. Everyone who is actually in the business is lazy, stupid, or some other negative quality in your eyes unless you have personal contact with them and they give you "insider" information. In which case, you feel they're victims of the same idiot run machine that is keeping good ideas out.

Dude, you work at walmart. Other guys, the ones who you think are idiots, MAKE ninja turtles cartoons, toys and comics. If you can do it better, get off your butt and do it. There is more to the BUSINESS of doing graphic design than nitpicking other people's work and having a bunch of ideas. If you can do it better, present your non-existent portfolio to playmates and try to get hired. Getting told "you don't have what it takes" a few times might open your eyes in seeing you have nothing under your belt and you're an arrogant, cocky, opinionated fanboy-one who wasted a lot of mommy and daddy's money going to college for nothing. Perhaps being rejected a few times with slap some sense into your head and you'll actually see how much work you have ahead of you if you wish to get into a professional setting.

Dude, you work at walmart. You're not a graphic designer for a living. There is a reason my name was DonsAssistant and I have been very positive on these threads. This is my last post. You sir, are a plight of epic proportions on TMNT fandom and I wish you would grow up and see 1-YOU WORK AT WALMART and 2-calling every move made by people in the business stupid or lazy isn't going to help anyone in any capacity. It doesn't make you a fan. It makes you a wannabe creative talent. If you don't think we'd like to do more but at times are shackled by time and budget restraints you're on a different world. It just points out your ignorance. This isn't the fine art 'I'll get it done when I feel like and I do it because I want to express my feelings'-make believe world. We all know who 'Vaughn Michael' is in my office and if you think this is how you get work, man you definitely have a lot to learn.


Unprofessional FTW.
As an industry professional who also works in the design and production of childrens product... I have to tell you, if my execs caught me blasting like that about my industry and company on a public forum, I would be shot, hung, and THEN fired. DonsAssistant needs to learn some composure. His job may depend on it. I can't begin to tell you how many times I have held my tounge in public spaces about my company's product or intellecual properties not only to be the better person, but simply because I like my job.

Disgression is the better part of valor my friend.

[Jester]

I come bearig pics....:P
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/103_0100.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/103_0101.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/103_0102.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/103_0103.jpg

[Blade Raider]

The only difference is the packaging. For collectors this makes it the most important part. If it's not very good it's disappointing.
Actually, I was just looking at some of tOKKa's pictures and the date stamp is different, not just the box.

[Archon_Turtle]

Actually, I was just looking at some of tOKKa's pictures and the date stamp is different, not just the box.

So the date stamps are different? Thats actually what I was about to ask. Had they kept the original date stamps, and not given people any way to tell the difference, it would have been kind of a dick move. So I am happy to see they gave us that. Thanks Pmates :-)

[notebook]

i actually think the dvd design is pretty neat. awesome, even. i really like it.
i'm waiting until shredder comes out before i go looking.

[Blade Raider]

So the date stamps are different? Thats actually what I was about to ask. Had they kept the original date stamps, and not given people any way to tell the difference, it would have been kind of a dick move. So I am happy to see they gave us that. Thanks Pmates :-)
Yeah, was just looking through a flickr link tokka post in another thread and it compared an 88 Don and an 09 Raph. They updated the date stamp.

[Jester]

According to the box front the only episodes that are gonna be released on DVD are the first 5, but how is that gonna work with 12 figures?.

[Archon_Turtle]

You know, I think they should have reinstituted Pizza Points for the anniversary. That would have been neat :-) I still have a bunch of pizza points somewhere.

[Leonardo19]

You know, I think they should have reinstituted Pizza Points for the anniversary. That would have been neat :-) I still have a bunch of pizza points somewhere.

I agree. That would have rocked!!!

Does anyone know where I can order these online? The Target and TRU nearest me is over an hour away?? I checked both sites a few days ago and nothing.

[Blade Raider]

According to the box front the only episodes that are gonna be released on DVD are the first 5, but how is that gonna work with 12 figures?.
Like a build-a-figure, I guess. At least one or two episodes will be with 2 or 3 figures. Also, that's just plain lazy!

Btw, with Jester's new pics, I'm starting to see what Vaughn's been talking about. Donnie's huge nest top Bebop and Rocksteady.

[Ninjinister]

You know, I think they should have reinstituted Pizza Points for the anniversary. That would have been neat :-) I still have a bunch of pizza points somewhere.

Same here. All of those points I was saving up for something big... now they have no value :(

[Blade Raider]

You know, I think they should have reinstituted Pizza Points for the anniversary. That would have been neat :-) I still have a bunch of pizza points somewhere.
Did they ever even use them the first time around?

[Kendamu]

Wow. I just skimmed over DonsAssistant's post and the replies suggesting that he's from Playmates. Didn't Playmates start a bunch of drama over on Murphy's board awhile back due to nobody there liking Music Don?

If such is the case and DonsAssistant is from Playmates, I think some company policies need to be instituted where employees don't get into flamewars on the internet with franchise fans. They'd be wise to take a note from FUNimation and all the crap they've gotten from Americanizing Dragonball Z.

EDIT: There are good points coming from both sides of the issue, but it doesn't need to get this heated. It's art on a box for a toy.

[BigApple3AM]

Yes there was a pizza point catalog with stuff you could redeem them for.

[Archon_Turtle]

Wow. I just skimmed over DonsAssistant's post and the replies suggesting that he's from Playmates. Didn't Playmates start a bunch of drama over on Murphy's board awhile back due to nobody there liking Music Don?

If such is the case and DonsAssistant is from Playmates, I think some company policies need to be instituted where employees don't get into flamewars on the internet with franchise fans. They'd be wise to take a note from FUNimation and all the crap they've gotten from Americanizing Dragonball Z.

That is exactly why I notified Playmates of the incident. If they would like to take appropriate action, they may.

[BoggleKng]

Oh so not the drama... I will have to get to Target this weekend perhaps... I am waiting for no pants Shredder...

[Kendamu]

Just to bring back up a point rasied on the previous page:

Besides eBay, is there anywhere online selling these?

[Roseangelo]

Wow, I think we can just give DonsAssistant the mega fail of the year award for 2009 now. I mean, really. That was kinda epic.

[A little *too* Raph]

Looks like actiontoys.com has them (Mike is out of stock). For some reason the TMNT page on cornerstorecomics seems to be down but they might have them as well

http://www.actiontoys.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=123&Category_Code=TMNT25

[Splinter]

Hey Vaughn, Didn't you say you worked at walmart like over and over again?

When an art director or executive type in a suit tells an art department employee that based on the production numbers and given a specific budget they're required to produce a single cardback using the old card art its not being lazy or bad at their job when they complete the task. Perhaps they all want to do more and can't because of time or budget issues. Its time for you to learn how the BUSINESS of graphic design or other production works and stop talking about how you bust your butt looking for work and actually begin outputting work rather than posting here hundreds of times a day about how you could do it all better and acting as though you're some kind of authority on something you have nothing to do with. You're not aware of how many man hours can paid out for design costs on a project. At a certain point, from a business perspective, the more labor based art efforts result in only marginally better sales, yet increase costs in major ways. How many people that WERE going to buy the figures now WON'T because the card is generic with 'poorly designed art'? Weigh that against the cost of printing up individual cards or, as you suggested one good and one evil. In the end, the actions you suggest lead to more cost, but not to more sales. Its just nitpicking from a fanboy you can't please. A couch quarterback, a backseat driver, a takeout chef. You'll always think you know more and assert your opinion online as though others care what YOU think.

Ok, you don't like something, constructive criticism is fine. Everyone has an opinion. Just don't bitch and moan about how you can do it all better because you're jealous of those people in those jobs. Don't try to convince fans you know how the business works. You aren't a professional graphic designer. Perhaps you dabble in freelance once in a while, but you have said time and again, you stock shelves at WALMART. If I am wrong, link me to your online portfolio and I will eat my words. Oh, hahahaha, before I go any, further slapping sculpy on an "entrigan the demon" figure's head and repainting him doesn't count. I want to see where the work is that you got paid to produce that was released commercially.

You said the new playmates turtles were copies of the movie figures then bitched for two pages on the other thread about playmate's laziness. You have a terrible eye for detail. I can tell you, you are a joke where I work. You even use your real name as your ID while you run your mouth off about how you know it all hahahahhaha. Walmart, man, WALMART!

With your attitude put right out there on a forum like this, always knocking down anything new that's made, especially when you email your contacts, you're not in the process of getting work in that field. They know you as a big fanboy nitpicking critic. They try to be polite to you so you don't continue to drag people's names through the dirt. Everyone who is actually in the business is lazy, stupid, or some other negative quality in your eyes unless you have personal contact with them and they give you "insider" information. In which case, you feel they're victims of the same idiot run machine that is keeping good ideas out.

Dude, you work at walmart. Other guys, the ones who you think are idiots, MAKE ninja turtles cartoons, toys and comics. If you can do it better, get off your butt and do it. There is more to the BUSINESS of doing graphic design than nitpicking other people's work and having a bunch of ideas. If you can do it better, present your non-existent portfolio to playmates and try to get hired. Getting told "you don't have what it takes" a few times might open your eyes in seeing you have nothing under your belt and you're an arrogant, cocky, opinionated fanboy-one who wasted a lot of mommy and daddy's money going to college for nothing. Perhaps being rejected a few times with slap some sense into your head and you'll actually see how much work you have ahead of you if you wish to get into a professional setting.

Dude, you work at walmart. You're not a graphic designer for a living. There is a reason my name was DonsAssistant and I have been very positive on these threads. This is my last post. You sir, are a plight of epic proportions on TMNT fandom and I wish you would grow up and see 1-YOU WORK AT WALMART and 2-calling every move made by people in the business stupid or lazy isn't going to help anyone in any capacity. It doesn't make you a fan. It makes you a wannabe creative talent. If you don't think we'd like to do more but at times are shackled by time and budget restraints you're on a different world. It just points out your ignorance. This isn't the fine art 'I'll get it done when I feel like and I do it because I want to express my feelings'-make believe world. We all know who 'Vaughn Michael' is in my office and if you think this is how you get work, man you definitely have a lot to learn.
And people wonder why companies like Hasbro have "Non-Interaction" rules in place for it's employees. Where they're not allowed to post on forums about the products they're involved with producing. Because idiotic behavior like this makes the company they're employed by look bad. I'm sure that this individual will soon be working at Wal-Mart themselves, considering how bad they make Playmates look right now.

[Kendamu]

Looks like actiontoys.com has them (Mike is out of stock). For some reason the TMNT page on cornerstorecomics seems to be down but they might have them as well

http://www.actiontoys.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=123&Category_Code=TMNT25
Damn it. Mike is the one I want!

Thanks for the heads-up.

[Ninjinister]

Wow, I think we can just give DonsAssistant the mega fail of the year award for 2009 now. I mean, really. That was kinda epic.

I think it's pretty safe to say they we can.

[NoPressApril]

Hey Vaughn, Didn't you say you worked at walmart like over and over again?

Perhaps you dabble in freelance once in a while, but you have said time and again, you stock shelves at WALMART.

Walmart, man, WALMART!

Dude, you work at walmart. Other guys, the ones who you think are idiots, MAKE ninja turtles cartoons, toys and comics.

Dude, you work at walmart. You're not a graphic designer for a living.

I wish you would grow up and see 1-YOU WORK AT WALMART

You know something? I think VM might work at Wal-Mart.

[Kendamu]

You know something? I think VM might work at Wal-Mart.
What would make you think that? :P

[turkishproverb]

rant

Hmm, interesting. I think this really does prove that Playmates has sorely degraded as a company though.

Besides that, it shows some people still use the "YOU CAN'T KNOW IF IT'S BAD IF YOU DIDN'T DO IT!" thing.

Dude, you work at walmart. Other guys, the ones who you think are idiots, MAKE ninja turtles cartoons, toys and comics.

Yea, pretty bad if it doesn't even take a pro to see the problems in the work, isn't it?

[BoggleKng]

What would make you think that? :P

Really?!! VM is still the man... who cares if he works at Walmart...

[NoPressApril]

Really?!! VM is still the man... who cares if he works at Walmart...

Well apparently Paula does cause she just snapped all over him. We all knew it was coming tho, the old girl's been hangin' on by a thread for a while now.:D :lol:

[Ninjinister]

Well apparently Paula does cause she just snapped all over him. We all knew it was coming tho, the old girl's been hangin' on by a thread for a while now.:D :lol:

I don't think this is Paula. As inane as those run-on paragraphs were, this individual still had more thoughtful writing than she ever had.

[Roseangelo]

Well apparently Paula does cause she just snapped all over him. We all knew it was coming tho, the old girl's been hangin' on by a thread for a while now.:D :lol:

Nah, it's not Paula. I'd put my money on it being the same guy who wrote this winner (http://the-5th-turtle.blogspot.com/2008/06/playmates-responds-to-p-donnie-post.html).

[CyberCubed]

Heh, that rant was unintentionally funny. :lol:

[spazzy]

I saw the at my target today, I was tempted but resisted and saved $9 a figure. I will stick with the original carded set I have. Maybe if there was an attempt to redo it somehow like G I joe has done I would have got them.

[Slash]

Hey Vaughn, Didn't you say you worked at walmart like over and over again?

The economy is bad, my friend. I work for Apple and I am a computer technician. I have a degree in history and I can do all kinds of history quizzes on the fly with certain success. Just because one 's current job is not their intended profession... does not mean that their opinions are lower.


When an art director or executive type in a suit tells an art department employee that based on the production numbers and given a specific budget they're required to produce a single cardback using the old card art its not being lazy or bad at their job when they complete the task. Perhaps they all want to do more and can't because of time or budget issues. Its time for you to learn how the BUSINESS of graphic design or other production works and stop talking about how you bust your butt looking for work and actually begin outputting work rather than posting here hundreds of times a day about how you could do it all better and acting as though you're some kind of authority on something you have nothing to do with. You're not aware of how many man hours can paid out for design costs on a project. At a certain point, from a business perspective, the more labor based art efforts result in only marginally better sales, yet increase costs in major ways. How many people that WERE going to buy the figures now WON'T because the card is generic with 'poorly designed art'? Weigh that against the cost of printing up individual cards or, as you suggested one good and one evil. In the end, the actions you suggest lead to more cost, but not to more sales. Its just nitpicking from a fanboy you can't please. A couch quarterback, a backseat driver, a takeout chef. You'll always think you know more and assert your opinion online as though others care what YOU think.

My father worked for Will Eisner on The Spirit comic books back in the 70's. Since then, he has worked as a graphic artist for bigger companies - such as Prudential. He agrees that the artwork is poorly made for a mass produced image - and he would know. His work has been printed in many different languages in many different countries. He admits that not all projects are the best. However, he will say that prospect of mass producing a poorly engineered card backing is not the way to entice customers to purchase something - add something to make it unique.

For example, after I got home from Apple, I happened to take my father to the local comic book shop with me to go look for some good old Cable and Deadpool issues. They had a collection of the old Ghostbusters figures and the original TMNT figures. We looked over the packaging and both agreed that it was a great touch that each card was made for the packaged character. An individual design and build customized to make that package become an accessory to the figure. An element that is missing from these packaging. Hasbro - a company where my mother was an art director at for during the 1980's - has done a great build for the Transformers packaging. Each 25th Anniversary figure is package with new and fresh artwork on the front.

Ok, you don't like something, constructive criticism is fine. Everyone has an opinion. Just don't bitch and moan about how you can do it all better because you're jealous of those people in those jobs. Don't try to convince fans you know how the business works. You aren't a professional graphic designer. Perhaps you dabble in freelance once in a while, but you have said time and again, you stock shelves at WALMART. If I am wrong, link me to your online portfolio and I will eat my words. Oh, hahahaha, before I go any, further slapping sculpy on an "entrigan the demon" figure's head and repainting him doesn't count. I want to see where the work is that you got paid to produce that was released commercially.

While you drowned on your soap box drowning in your own saliva, think of the fact that Vaughn's stockboy work is a clear indication of him knowing what sells. Which figures do you think he is going to restock more often: 25th Anniversary TMNT pegwarmers or the 25th Anniversary Transformers?

You said the new playmates turtles were copies of the movie figures then bitched for two pages on the other thread about playmate's laziness. You have a terrible eye for detail. I can tell you, you are a joke where I work. You even use your real name as your ID while you run your mouth off about how you know it all hahahahhaha. Walmart, man, WALMART!

Seeing how this is what you think and act, it is no wonder why almost all the Walmarts have stopped carrying TMNT products.

With your attitude put right out there on a forum like this, always knocking down anything new that's made, especially when you email your contacts, you're not in the process of getting work in that field. They know you as a big fanboy nitpicking critic. They try to be polite to you so you don't continue to drag people's names through the dirt. Everyone who is actually in the business is lazy, stupid, or some other negative quality in your eyes unless you have personal contact with them and they give you "insider" information. In which case, you feel they're victims of the same idiot run machine that is keeping good ideas out.

This just makes no sense. Why are you so... excitable for the guy who is apparently so cool and better than Vaughn Michael that you have to log into a forum and say Walmart every other sentence? Compensation for what the nature didn't give you?

Dude, you work at walmart. Other guys, the ones who you think are idiots, MAKE ninja turtles cartoons, toys and comics. If you can do it better, get off your butt and do it. There is more to the BUSINESS of doing graphic design than nitpicking other people's work and having a bunch of ideas. If you can do it better, present your non-existent portfolio to playmates and try to get hired. Getting told "you don't have what it takes" a few times might open your eyes in seeing you have nothing under your belt and you're an arrogant, cocky, opinionated fanboy-one who wasted a lot of mommy and daddy's money going to college for nothing. Perhaps being rejected a few times with slap some sense into your head and you'll actually see how much work you have ahead of you if you wish to get into a professional setting.

So where is your portfolio?

Dude, you work at walmart.

You keep beating the dead horse. Are you a masochistic necromancer?

You're not a graphic designer for a living. There is a reason my name was DonsAssistant and I have been very positive on these threads. This is my last post. You sir, are a plight of epic proportions on TMNT fandom and I wish you would grow up and see 1-YOU WORK AT WALMART and 2-calling every move made by people in the business stupid or lazy isn't going to help anyone in any capacity. It doesn't make you a fan. It makes you a wannabe creative talent. If you don't think we'd like to do more but at times are shackled by time and budget restraints you're on a different world. It just points out your ignorance. This isn't the fine art 'I'll get it done when I feel like and I do it because I want to express my feelings'-make believe world. We all know who 'Vaughn Michael' is in my office and if you think this is how you get work, man you definitely have a lot to learn.

And kids, this guy is a perfect reason why to practice abstinence.

[BigApple3AM]

Slash, you have the coolest parents EVER.

[Archon_Turtle]

Slash, you have the coolest parents EVER.

Yeah! How did they make YOU? :-P

[sdp]

I think the Box Art is awesome, I could care less what the Walmart employee says ;) :P


So, has it been posted if the episodes look better than the Liionsgate S1 release?


I may have missed it after the lulz DonsAssistants rant caused :lol:

[Ninjinister]

DonsAssistant may have won the Mega Fail of the year, but you, Slash, have achieved the Epic Win.

Okay, we can skip 2009 now. We have our votes locked in!

[Jester]

Man, you really miss a lot when you are averse to reading long posts. Man, Vaughn, your name is brandied about at Playmates offices...you lucky fan-boy you. If I were you I'd almost wear that as a badge of honor...people where they make the TMNT figures know who one fan is...maybe if more of us were as vocal, we'd see a change. If there were more Vaughn Michaels maybe then they'd listen.

BTW, having purchased one of the 25th Turtles and looking at the box art, it does seem a might cut and paste. The Foot Soldier kinda floating in mid air on the card seems the most odd. And were Mikey's chuck chains see through in the old art? Now I can understand that there was probably more that the package designer wanted to do, but was constrained by budgets, but I'm sure there were probably card designs that were rejected. They couldn't have gone with the first one...could they?

[Blade Raider]

I would ask a mod to edit his post as it's a personal attack, but they'd have to edit every other post since people quoting him. Oh well.

Also, I made a little comic of Walmart getting Vaughn to do the dirty work
http://vault.error-403.net/files/3/Walmart.JPG

I'll hate myself for making that in the morning...

EDIT, Btw, this is nothing against Vaughn. The idea just made me laugh.

[Ninjinister]

(Swipes your Supermutant Shredder)

[VaughnMichael]

RAWR RAWR RAWR
Actually, I have and still do allot of work and am being paid to do things for people at mirage at the moment who are a fans of my work because a certain company refuses to make new figures of classic characters.
I'm sorry but I miss the Playmates that used to take chances, you know the company who took a chance on a line of 4 green mutant ninja turtles when no one else would.
I'm glad you folks over at Playmates know me and what I do so well.
And I am and have been a professional graphic designer for years, you do not need to work for the man to be a pro at what you do.
If you want to see my work and you claim to know me as well as you say search for me on myspace and you will see all the work I've done over the years.
I wouldn't want to work for Playmates anyway after what I've been told from the fine folks at Mirage and the past sculptors and designers at how ridiculous they are to work for.
BTW if anyone I talk to meaning Murph, Dan, Tristan, & Ryan have any sort of problem with me that is on them as the majority of them bitch and complain their fare share also, they just won't say anything in public most of the time because they are afraid some person that's in a higher position than them will castrate them, and it shouldn't be like that as all of them do amazing work and bust their asses to make the turtles come out half as decent as it does.
I also see no problem in working a normal job, we are in an economic crisis anyone who talks down any mans job right now needs a reality check.
We are in tough times and I've taken what I can to pay the bills as well as help my family out who can't pay theirs allot of the time.
Much love always the infamous horrible fan boy.
So, if I may be so bold, both DonsAssistant and Vaughn have been taking this thing ridiculously hard.
Even as toy collectors, is it so hard to just not give a damn about what the tagboard design is? I can't think of anything more trivial. And when not engaging in a psychotic rant, DonsAssistant made legitimate points about budgets and sales.
The thing that's funny is, the moment I leave this site I don't even think about these figures or TMNT for the most part.
BTW I saw these in Target today, My opinion still stands on the placement of the art, the the art itself is not the problem as it's fab, saturating the colors a bit would have helped a bit in my honest opinion.
You know what, man... I wonder what (since you're on the MC forum with me) Frogboy would say about something like this. It reminds me of one of his problems about the Muppet stock pictures having random other characters shoved in them, and they have different shadows and stuff all over them that don't match up with the image. And everything in those shots seems so cluttered and ill fitting. You know the image I'm talking about. The group shot with random characters splunched in?

I see what you're getting at after I took a really good look at it. It does seem way too cluttered. in its composition. Plus, wasn't some better art work rejected for this?
Frogboy is a really nice guy and also a graphic designer, I'm sure he would think the same thing about the scrunched layout.
It's honestly not as big a deal as it's being made out, I just sort of wanted people to see that it could be done better.
If I could get ahold of the files and the background I'd mock up something that could look better.
I think the best thing about the card is the use of the old art and the old logo though.
But yes I do know what Muppet image your talking about it's funny when really looking at it because if you study it you can see errors in places that they forgot to finish editing things.
As I was told many ideas where passed around and rejected, as you can see via Ryan Brown & Peter Lairds blog's Playmates have been rejecting killer ideas for years.
Found Raph, Leo, and Mikey at Target today, but only bought my fave Raphie boy.
I can't lie if and when Slash comes out I'll buy em'
So the date stamps are different? That's actually what I was about to ask. Had they kept the original date stamps, and not given people any way to tell the difference, it would have been kind of a dick move. So I am happy to see they gave us that. Thanks Pmates :-)
Yeah, Tokka posted some pics on his flickr acount lastnight, now the date stamp change is a good thing, this I agree with as it's something that should have been done but you never know.
That is exactly why I notified Playmates of the incident. If they would like to take appropriate action, they may.
Thanks Arch, I'm glad I don't have to now, but I still may forward this to Mirage as well.
While I may not like one design, I just praised them in my other thread about the Mini Exoskeletons.
So there really is no need for some one to go ape sh1t over what I have to say, if I'm just some fan boy with no say in anything.
Damn it. Mike is the one I want!
Thanks for the heads-up.
If anyone needs help finding TMNT figures I'm willing to help as long as they pay store price + Tax for the figure plus shipping, and I will not charge an extra finders fee for them.
You know something? I think VM might work at Wal-Mart.
And you know what I don't care nor am I embarrassed by the fact.
It's one of the best jobs I've ever had, they pay me well, they appreciate me because I'm a damn hard worker.
Allot of people put the store down but allot of really great people work there from all walks of life.
And there is nothing wrong with making an honest days work and no one should be ashamed of what they do especially if it makes them feel good.
Really?!! VM is still the man... who cares if he works at Walmart...
Well thanks Boggle, a man should not be judged by his place of employment.
Nah, it's not Paula. I'd put my money on it being the same guy who wrote this winner (http://the-5th-turtle.blogspot.com/2008/06/playmates-responds-to-p-donnie-post.html).
Agreed 100%, I'm pretty sure this is my buddys old buddy.:lol:
Seeing how this is what you think and act, it is no wonder why almost all the Walmarts have stopped carrying TMNT products.
Me thinks this could be the real reason for all the stress on Wal-Mart, They aren't going to sell toys that don't sell.
I'd love to see TMNT in the store I work at, but I sadly have to agree with Wal-Mart on their actions.
Man, you really miss a lot when you are averse to reading long posts. Man, Vaughn, your name is brandied about at Playmates offices...you lucky fan-boy you. If I were you I'd almost wear that as a badge of honor...people where they make the TMNT figures know who one fan is...maybe if more of us were as vocal, we'd see a change. If there were more Vaughn Michaels maybe then they'd listen.
Heh I don't know if they'd listen, but if they spent more time at their great jobs doing their amazing graphics instead of joining a forum with fans who want the best out of their fave brand maybe people like me wouldn't be complaining and Wal-Mart would still be selling their TMNT figures.
You should always want the best out of life no matter what it is, I take pleasure in the simple things even if it seems like displeasure at times.
You know even though this person doesn't want to believe it but I've been through this sort of thing before with projects for companies.
They don't like what you do, don't get discouraged just talk to them and ask what they have in mind in exact detail then work around that, good work comes from a good boss and worker relationship.
And while I can certainly understand time restraints and budgets I've done many many jobs for people where I put my all into it regardless of how much they pay me or how much time I have.
I've spent many a sleepless night doing designs for people like Marilyn Manson simply because he wanted it right away and without warning.
You have to have a passion for what you do, if you do the other things won't matter.
I'd design for Playmates for free if it ment having the creativity placed back in their company.
I don't think outside or even inside the box, think next to it.

[Jester]

Here Vaughn, I figured I'd add fuel to the fire by posting multiple pictures of the card face. I take it there is little about the back that has anyone groaning aside from Pantless Shredder...one wonders if that is why there are onlyu Turtles out now, because the secondary characters were pulled to fix Shredder....but I digress...THE PICTURES!
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/103_0116.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/103_0117.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/103_0118.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/103_0119.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/103_0120.jpg

[VaughnMichael]

I would ask a mod to edit his post as it's a personal attack, but they'd have to edit every other post since people quoting him. Oh well.
Also, I made a little comic of Walmart getting Vaughn to do the dirty work
I'll hate myself for making that in the morning...
EDIT, Btw, this is nothing against Vaughn. The idea just made me laugh.
Trust me I love it, and I'm glad I'm such a badass action figure.:lol:
It's funny this all started out with my noticing the company I work for no longer getting shipments of figures all across the state, then reports started coming in from other states.
Then boom I get the information about us not selling the figures as of this spring.
Honestly, instead of coming here and chewing me out they should be marking what people see as flaws.
The biggest problem I've seen for some time is that they don't have a good relationship with the fans and don't seem to take long time fans into consideration no matter how b1tchy we are, we are still a chunk of where the money comes from and would dish out even more for better products like Marvel Legends and DC Universe quality work.

[Roseangelo]

Maybe Playmates couldn't afford to give Shredder pants, same as they couldn't afford to pay someone for more than an hour's worth of pay to design the cardback.

[NoPressApril]

Okay seriously now, will someone please explain to me why some people think that this donsassistant person is a Playmates employee? I just went back and read all of his big 15 posts and none of them seemed to indicate that he works for Playmates.

I'm just curious. I wish I could discuss the new April or Shredder but since Playmates decided that releasing the 4 turtles by themselves first was the smart thing to do, I can't. :(

[GK Punk]

WOW that really is the most cluttered, awful looking card art I've ever seen. And even though I got a heads up about the post, If it's cool with Vaughn, I'm leaving it. It is the most childish, and humorous rant I've ever read on the internet. And I used to visit /b/ on a regular basis.

(Never forgive.)

[Archon_Turtle]

Okay seriously now, will someone please explain to me why some people think that this donsassistant person is a Playmates employee?

Because he claims to be in his rant. Plus...who the hell else would have said that lol.


I just went back and read all of his big 15 posts and none of them seemed to indicate that he works for Playmates.


Of course not, because he isn't supposed to be posting on public forums. You have no clue how many game industry forums I am a member of that I never post to because i work in the game industry and thats just bad juju.

[VaughnMichael]

WOW that really is the most cluttered, awful looking card art I've ever seen. And even though I got a heads up about the post, If it's cool with Vaughn, I'm leaving it. It is the most childish, and humorous rant I've ever read on the internet. And I used to visit /b/ on a regular basis.

(Never forgive.)
Hey GK, I'm more than cool with it.
If this person is from Playmates, they should have been establishing some sort of fans relations with this site instead of lurking and getting ticked at my comments about one design.
I also find it funny that they cared that I use my real name as my user ID on here, I'm not ashamed of who I am and have nothing to hide so why should I hide behind some fake moniker.

[Candy Kappa]

I would ask a mod to edit his post as it's a personal attack, but they'd have to edit every other post since people quoting him. Oh well.

Also, I made a little comic of Walmart getting Vaughn to do the dirty work
http://vault.error-403.net/files/3/Walmart.JPG

I'll hate myself for making that in the morning...

EDIT, Btw, this is nothing against Vaughn. The idea just made me laugh.

that's awesome, it gave me a good laugh

[NoPressApril]

Because he claims to be in his rant. Plus...who the hell else would have said that lol..

I dunno. He did seem to be very sensitive and unable to take the criticism about the card art but he targeted VM hardcore, really hardcore. Almost in a Fatal Attraction kinda way. How could he have had that much rage from less than a month of posting?

I think it's a member that created another account to target him. Anyone who would post that to start with wouldn't be above lying and saying that they work for Playmates. And what better way to attack someone? "I work at Playmates and you work at Wal-Mart i'm better". Lame I know.

Maybe it's just someone that VM rubbed the wrong way at some point. VM and myself had issues when I first joined too but we got over it and well, I'm slightly crazy but not crazy enough to dedicate a post that long to someone i've never met. Okay maybe Shannen Doherty but that's another story.

I'm gonna start narrowing down my list of suspects and when i'm done I expect a Scooby snack. Holla :D

[Candy Kappa]

and when i'm done I expect a Scooby snack. Holla :D

When the culprit is found you shall have your Scoody snack:lol:

[Roseangelo]

I dunno. He did seem to be very sensitive and unable to take the criticism about the card art but he targeted VM hardcore, really hardcore. Almost in a Fatal Attraction kinda way. How could he have had that much rage from less than a month of posting?

Just 'cause he's only been posting a few weeks doesn't mean he hasn't been reading for longer than that.

Peter Laird reads these forums obsessively. He doesn't post, but he goes similarly crazy on people in other locations based on comments made here.

[NoPressApril]

Well now Peter Laird actually went through my mind first. If anyone needed to vent it would be him but I thought that the image of Crazy old Paula tearing at her white hair, her wrinkles all red and flushed, was way more amusing. Love you crazy Paula. Love you.



Edit: Oh and seriously, you guys have no idea how pissed I am that the turtles got released first and with the estimated release date for the new party wagon in June, it could very well be June before yellow reporter April even gets released.

[Roseangelo]

Well now Peter Laird actually went through my mind first. If anyone needed to vent it would be him but I thought that the image of Crazy old Paula tearing at her white hair, her wrinkles all red and flushed, was way more amusing. Love you crazy Paula. Love you.

There was a brief moment where I thought it might possibly be Gary, but I stand by my guess that it's this guy (http://the-5th-turtle.blogspot.com/2008/06/playmates-responds-to-p-donnie-post.html).

[Candy Kappa]

music turtles... didn't like them back then don't think I'm like 'em now

[Krang]

Hey Vaughn, Didn't you say you worked at walmart like over and over again?

[...]
Even if you haven't looked at the forum rules, common sense should tell you that it is completely inexcusable to attack another member like that. Although you claimed that was your last post, it goes without saying that...

Dude, you work at walmart.
Dude, you got a warning.

[Archon_Turtle]

Even if you haven't looked at the forum rules, common sense should tell you that it is completely inexcusable to attack another member like that. Although you claimed that was your last post, it goes without saying that...


Dude, you got a warning.

Have I mentioned lately how much I love you?

[GK Punk]

I dunno. He did seem to be very sensitive and unable to take the criticism about the card art but he targeted VM hardcore, really hardcore. Almost in a Fatal Attraction kinda way. How could he have had that much rage from less than a month of posting?

I think it's a member that created another account to target him. Anyone who would post that to start with wouldn't be above lying and saying that they work for Playmates. And what better way to attack someone? "I work at Playmates and you work at Wal-Mart i'm better". Lame I know.

Maybe it's just someone that VM rubbed the wrong way at some point. VM and myself had issues when I first joined too but we got over it and well, I'm slightly crazy but not crazy enough to dedicate a post that long to someone i've never met. Okay maybe Shannen Doherty but that's another story.

I'm gonna start narrowing down my list of suspects and when i'm done I expect a Scooby snack. Holla :D

I don't know about all that. One time on the Winx club community, we highly offended one of the doll outfit designers from Mattel, and got a response in a very similar manner. Plus, if it is or was some body else re-reg'd, we have IP records for every post made by a user. Krang has been known to call people out on it when people have done that.

[NoPressApril]

I don't know about all that. One time on the Winx club community, we highly offended one of the doll outfit designers from Mattel, and got a response in a very similar manner. Plus, if it is or was some body else re-reg'd, we have IP records for every post made by a user. Krang has been known to call people out on it when people have done that.


All I want is to pretend that i'm Daphne from Scooby-Doo for a little while. Can I just have this??? I have so little...

Seriously, i'll try to help get this thread back on topic since I helped de-rail it. Maybe the dude did design the card and was really offended. I dunno. Personally I don't really see that there is too much that he could have done differently working with only old art, having to include images of every re-released character, and having to put them all on one single generic card that would work for every figure.

Then again, seeing as the packaging was the only part of these figures that is costing Playmates anything to develop, I understand that most would expect single cards. If Playmates had used single cards though how would they have retained the look of the original packaging while making it different enough to look new and refreshed?

The 25th Anniversary logo certainly wouldn't be enough to do it and brand new art defeats the purpose of paying homage to the original figures. It's a conundrum. Personally I would have preferred that April was bigger but at this point it really doesn't matter as she hasn't even been released. She's just a picture on a card. Yes i'm bitter. I guess it should be extremely nostalgic for me though, in 1988 April was just a picture on a card for a long time before I finally found her.

Don't get me wrong though, i'm in no way making excuses for that person's blunt little rant but I can see how this card must have been hard to design, for both him and Playmates. In the end though i'm just thankful that April can be a useful reporter again instead of selling antiques like a 90 year old woman. This is a new chapter in the vintage line's history and that's good enough for me.

I'm also extremely grateful that Playmates didn't include the Pop-Up Displays with these, that would have been a huge insult to the money that i've spent on them and the years that i've been looking for them online. Hopefully they will always remain one of the few sacred aspects of the original run.

I'm happy with everything about these "new" figures, well except for the moronic idea to only release the 4 turtles first. And the J-Peg hook. In my opinion, this package is still a step-up from the purple generic cards of the 90's.:)