L o s t (SPOILERS!)

[Bigfoot]

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Okay, this is a show that I am really into.

With season 5 really getting into the whole time travel thing, and the amount of character storylines makes this a good show to share theories and ideas. To let you know how big a fan I am, I watch them when they air, then online, and then I buy the dvd and watch it probably 2 more times. It seems like I always miss something.

Before I go onto a 5 page report, I would like to see how many people are interested in it, how much of the show you know, and maybe even your favorite characters or moments.

[MrPliggins]

I actually never saw this show before in my life..then around November I borrowed all the seasons from someone and watched them all over the period of about 3 months. It's now one of my favorite shows. Sure, the plot devices are kind of farfetched, and there are plot holes here and there.. but I think they do a pretty good job of tying most of it up..and they never fail to introduce new plot points to keep you watching....those damn cliffhangers!

[CudleyCowlick]

Yeah this show is the diggity dank, yo! :lol:

This is my first season watching it on TV and it's agonizing!

I borrowed Seasons 1 & 2 from a friend, which got the ball rolling. I watched both seasons in under 3 weeks. Then I Netflixed Season 3 and that was done in another 2 weeks. Then I downloaded Season 4 (not out on DVD yet) and actually finished that in under a week.

So... first four seasons in less than 2 months. :o

Then I had to wait like 5 months for Season 5, and it is killing me to have to watch commercials and wait another week in between each one, but this show is worth it.

[Barkworm]

While the show is still enjoyable season 5 is the first one with bad acting and bad dialogue. I have faith in the writers but some of the time travel stuff is also pretty hard to swallow.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Meh, I thought it just finally got interesting again, but I'm a sci-fi fan so....yeah.

[MrPliggins]

Season 1 had some pretty corny dialogue too in parts...I think the time travel thing is a little farfetched too, but I don't take this show as being grounded in reality...maybe a loose version of reality.

The thing that keeps me watching is episodes like the last one, where they introduce like 5 different questions then leave you hanging...

[Barkworm]

Yeah, the last episode must have set a new record in the unanswered question section.

[Peanut]

I loved the first two seasons, then got progressively more cold on the series. I still watch every episode, but I've found myself very disconnected from it since the sh*tty 4th season.

[Barkworm]

I personally think that season 4 was on par with season 1. I don't see anything wrong with it.

[Ninjinister]

Lost's probably my current favourite show on TV. I'm a big fan of shows that exist primarily to f*** with your head.

[Peanut]

I personally think that season 4 was on par with season 1. I don't see anything wrong with it.

I didn't like that there was a ton of off island stuff. I enjoyed the show more when it was about people with conflicting personalities trying to survive on an island with an immense amount of mystery surrounding them. The whole "lost on a mystical island" thing pretty much dissipated for me in season 4, and that's what I enjoyed about the show.

It just doesn't feel the same anymore.

[Mecha Cow]

I thought the first couple of episodes of season five were lame but the recent ones have been a lot more interesting. I do hope they'll be really careful with the time travel elements though; I already feel like a lot of the show's mysticism has been explained away by sci-fi babble and I'd hate to see this trend continue.

[Tabularasa]

I didn't like that there was a ton of off island stuff. I enjoyed the show more when it was about people with conflicting personalities trying to survive on an island with an immense amount of mystery surrounding them. The whole "lost on a mystical island" thing pretty much dissipated for me in season 4, and that's what I enjoyed about the show.

It just doesn't feel the same anymore.

What off island stuff? You mean the flash-forewards? You do realize that if they still did flashbacks, they would be off the island, right? I think season 4 was probably the best since season 1. The flash-forewards were a breath of fresh air and seriously, is there a better episode of Lost then The Constant? For me the first 3 episodes of this season were pretty damn good. Then the next two were kind of dragging but this week's episode was amazing. I feel like the story to this season is really getting started and the previous 5 episodes were like one long prolouge. I'm kind of hoping all the time travel is a one season thing. I liked the time travel they did with Desmond, but they went over board with it in the first 5 episodes this season.

[Peanut]

What off island stuff? You mean the flash-forewards? You do realize that if they still did flashbacks, they would be off the island, right? I think season 4 was probably the best since season 1. The flash-forewards were a breath of fresh air and seriously, is there a better episode of Lost then The Constant? For me the first 3 episodes of this season were pretty damn good. Then the next two were kind of dragging but this week's episode was amazing. I feel like the story to this season is really getting started and the previous 5 episodes were like one long prolouge. I'm kind of hoping all the time travel is a one season thing. I liked the time travel they did with Desmond, but they went over board with it in the first 5 episodes this season.

I don't mean physically off island, because obviously the first 3 seasons had flashbacks. I mean that there was so much influence on the island by off island forces. It made it seem less secluded to me, which is one of the things I loved about Lost. I should note that I didn't like the fact the Others had means of contacting the outside world, either. The fact that there was any connection to the normal world available on the island has always been a source of annoyance.

[Barkworm]

I didn't like that there was a ton of off island stuff. I enjoyed the show more when it was about people with conflicting personalities trying to survive on an island with an immense amount of mystery surrounding them. The whole "lost on a mystical island" thing pretty much dissipated for me in season 4, and that's what I enjoyed about the show.
Okay, that makes sense. This particular issue is getting worse in the new season, too.

[ThirdMarioBro]

My problem with the show is that I could never understand their motivation. Locke was right. Why in the hell do they want to leave so badly? They all came from their own variable hells in the real world, and now they're dropped on a magical tropical island with all the modern amenities (Cable TV) and endless beauty, yet all they want to do is leave. Makes for a good plot, but sure beats the hell out of me. I always feel like Ricardo Montalbán is just about to jump out from behind a tree in the white pimp suit and slap them upside the head.

Maybe that's one of the reasons I'm enjoying this season more than season four, because their line of thought is now in alignment with mine. They want to go back.

[Vivi]

I usually have no idea what's going on in this show or what is going to happen, ever. It is appropriately titled, yet I just love it :) The stranger it gets, the more it sucks me in. I've got the DVDs for the same reason-you miss so much stuff (do you ever visit the Lost Ninja (http://au.tv.yahoo.com/b/lostninja/)?)

[Ninjinister]

Not going to spoil anything in case someone hasn't seen it yet, but tonight's episode TOTALLY cemented why Benjamin Linus is the craziest, meanest, most unpredictable SOB in television history....

[ThirdMarioBro]

Not going to spoil anything in case someone hasn't seen it yet, but tonight's episode TOTALLY cemented why Benjamin Linus is the craziest, meanest, most unpredictable SOB in television history....

Yeah, I'll have to agree with that. That was one of the great mindfu*ks of 21st Century television.

[Peanut]

I've never both hated and loved a character as much as Ben Linus. Enjoyed the episode a lot tonight, but as usual, lots of questions springing up and very few being answered.

Yeah, I'll have to agree with that. That was one of the great mindfu*ks of 21st Century television.

Dude, you gotta tell me where you went to school for hyperbole. I've never seen it done better, and on such a regular basis. You should work for Fox News.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Dude, you gotta tell me where you went to school for hyperbole. I've never seen it done better, and on such a regular basis. You should work for Fox News.

You take that back. :cry:

[Vivi]

this show is getting fantastically convoluted, in true Lost form the only answers we got have just lead to a dozen more questions!

[Peanut]

You take that back. :cry:

ROFL! I was just jokin', brotha.

[Ninjinister]

I like the fact that the big OMFG moment last night wasn't reliant on something mystical or scientific or anything like that, but a genuine human moment. The sci-fi/mystical stuff is interesting and provides its own entertainment and waves of mindscrews, but the show's heart is in the people's lives and their interactions.

Also: Counted three Jackfaces (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Jackface) in that episode :lol:

[Vivi]

Also: Counted three Jackfaces (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Jackface) in that episode :lol:

I can't believe I've never heard of that before! :lol:

[CudleyCowlick]

Nothing so far this season has topped when FLAMING ARROWS RAINED DOWN FROM THE SKY IN A BLOODY CACOPHONY OF DEATH.

I'd still like some follow up on that, please.

MORE BURNING.

[Hannah]

Why are their clothes so clean in that picture?

[Vivi]

The most recent episode-

the passing of three years from the viewpoint of those on the island, including Sawyer's & Juliette's new relationship made it one of the best eps so far this season...

[Mandi-chan]

I love this show, been a die-hard fan since the epic first episode!

Honestly, I've never EVER been bored or disappointed with this show...not once. For me, it's always been pretty epic. It's my favorite show on tv.

[CudleyCowlick]

Okay, so we saw the statue again. I still want to know WHO SHOT THE FLAMING ARROWS?

Prehistoric "Others?"

Did they build the four-toed statue?

Is Richard prehistoric, or one of those "Island" Dead folks like Christian?

I love that in the 5th season out of 6 we are still asking more questions than are getting answered.

[Barkworm]

With the latest episode the show has reinvented itself once again and I guess it's safe to assume that we're finally going to learn more about the Dharma initiative.
Also, it's good that the time flashes are over for now, that stuff was getting old pretty fast.

[愛]

I wasn't home on Wednesday, so I just got around to watching the latest episode, and...

I don't think I've ever seen a kid get shot on TV before. That was kinda surprising to me. I mean, I've seen Battle Royale, but I expect something like that from Japan. Not from the US, though.

Either way, I have no idea where this show is even going anymore. I hope something gets explained soon, or I'm going to lose interest and have to catch up later on when the show gets good again.

[ThirdMarioBro]

It was Ben. I think the PTA can make an exception.

[Ninjinister]

I don't think I've ever seen a kid get shot on TV before. That was kinda surprising to me. I mean, I've seen Battle Royale, but I expect something like that from Japan. Not from the US, though.
My co-workers and I were discussing this yesterday. It really was something groundbreaking for US TV, at least on basic cable.


Either way, I have no idea where this show is even going anymore. I hope something gets explained soon, or I'm going to lose interest and have to catch up later on when the show gets good again.

I actually think it's the best it's been since season 1.

[Barkworm]

Sayid is totally f*cking awesome. I want his baby.

[Ninjinister]

Sayid is totally f*cking awesome. I want his baby.

...Just one?

[Mr. Snackpants]

I'm so glad they killed a kid on screen. That was probably the most shocking LOST moment for me...never expected that.

The first half of this season really sucked but now that they're all back on the island in the past I'm really digging it. It's a cool way of answering questions about Dharma and the Others. The time travel bit really redeemed it's self in the end, I think.

[Peanut]

The time travel thing still irks me a little, because I keep feeling like every difference made in the past would effect some portion of the future. But it doesn't seem like this "past" is part of the same "future" as we know it. It just really complicates things more than it needs to. I've felt like this ever since it was introduced in Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban. I'll never forgive that sh*t, either.

Still enjoying the show more now than the past two seasons, though. I'd agree with saying it's probably as good now as it's been since the first season. And yes, Sayid has always been totally awesome.

Anyone else kinda tired of Sawyer, though? I feel like his character has worn out his welcome, and since he made the turn from asshole to ultimate good guy, he's been really really boring to me.

Edit: Also, considering the fact we don't seem to use spoiler warnings in this thread, maybe someone should mark the thread title as such?

[愛]

It has been done.

Jin is still my favorite character, man. Love that guy.

[Ninjinister]

It has been done.

Jin is still my favorite character, man. Love that guy.

I love that they just kind of transitioned to the fact that he speaks English much, much more fluently after living with Dharma for three years, and didn't make a huge point regarding it. It felt more natural.

[Vivi]

I love this season since the transport back to the seventies. I'm also a Sayid fan at the moment, and I didn't even mark that a kid was shot until it was mentioned in this thread...but what will this do to the space/time continuum...brain warp. Obviously, he couldn't be dead, right? Besides, the island is a big sack of magic antibiotics. Wouldn't it be ironic if being shot what makes Ben jaded, calculating and evil. It could be the best thing that happens to him, really.

[ZariusTwo]

Josh Holloway has admitted that he is looking forward to the end of Lost because he has no idea what is going on in the show.

The actor, who plays Sawyer in the ongoing series, told Loaded that he has only correctly predicted one part of the ever-changing plot.

Holloway said: "Oh my God! I'm looking forward to knowing what the f**k is going on, first of all.

"The only thing I ever got right was the island moving, which was pretty good. But that's it. I don't know what the story is or where we will end up."


http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/a151151/lost-star-clueless-on-plot-future.html


:lol:

[ThirdMarioBro]

Okay, this last episode was one of the coolest ever. Still letting some of it soak in, but damn that was awesome. I've been waiting forever for them to explain what happened to Aaron.

[Vivi]

^ absolutely.
At first I thought the writers weren't too sure what had happened to Aaron thus got Kate to tell Jack "Don't you ever ask me what happened to Aaron!" (sic). But it was wrapped up pretty nicely.

And thank the effing stars Lock is back.

[ThirdMarioBro]

That ending was classic.

[Bigfoot]

I thought this weeks ep was particularly awesome. There was a lot of story development and where aaron is was revealed. I was wondering about that kid. Speeking of kids... it was awesome we got to see how kate and sawyer were a part of how Ben became an "other". And Locke at the end, when Ben was waking up was good too...

Good stuff!

[Ninjinister]

So...

Chuck is Danny's pop, Ellie kills her own kid, and the survivors now think they have a chance to make sure they never crashed in the first place.

S***

Three of the Freighter Folk that stuck around for this season have had at least one parent on The Island. Two of them have been established to have at least one parent that we've already known about.

That leaves the following:
-Who is Charlotte's mother, and is she also someone we've seen in a past episode?
-Does Lapidus have a parent on The Island?

[Bigfoot]

lol... yeah, alot happened last night.

Some other ideas...

Penny and Dan are bro and sis?!...
Before Charlotte dies, she says her mommy tells her no chocolate b4 dinner... she said it again as a kid... her mom and dad?... maybe she is Dans sister too... ewww... ha ha... and Lapidus...hmmm... perhaps he was born as a hostile, and we haven't seen his backstory... that was pretty cool when Elouise smacked Widmore... but to send him back to a time she knows she is going to kill him is kinda messed up...I saw behind the scene footage from the upcoming season finale, and some stuff is goin down... I got one word for you... Vincent...

edit: forgot to tag the spoiler

[Ninjinister]

Vincent? F'in hell, man, we haven't seen him in a while. What's he up to?

Heh, one of my early theories of the series was that Vincent was God and that he was testing the Losties.

I honestly think that the survivors attempting to change the future is... well... stupid. Not a stupid idea from a storyline standpoint, mind you, but from an in-universe logic. Especially without Faraday there to guide them through it. But think about it... if they keep the plane from crashing, then they'll never be on The Island in the first place... thus how could they have traveled back in time to stop it? It would be a time paradox the likes of which would vex Naked Snake, even.

[Mecha Cow]

Anyone watch the finale? Just in case anyone missed the thread title: here be spoilers.

I think this is first season finale I didn't really like. The whole bomb/changing the future scenario seemed a bit flimsy to me, but then again you just know it's not going to work anyway (Miles' theory is probably spot on). Nice to finally see Jacob, but we still don't really know a thing about him. But... what's going on with Locke? Him being my favorite character, I really hate the idea of him having been replaced by some impostor... the monster maybe? It's going to be a long wait for the next season.

It was nice to see Rose and Bernard again though, and for some reason I really enjoyed the scene where Sun finds Charlie's ring. Ben also had some particularly strong moments at the end. So when does season six start again?

[Ninjinister]

I liked most of the finale, but there was a lot that tried my patience. Like Locke never came back to life? Is that what they're saying? Was Locke the guy with Jacob in the opening scene to begin with? If so, why would Jacob visit him after being pushed out of the window by Cooper? And why is he visiting Oceanic survivors at crucial points in their lives anyway? Why was Hurley the only one he actually made reference to The Island and such? Did anyone else catch that he actually physically touched each one o them? And what is his relationship with Ilana?

Is Jacob really dead? What is the nature of his being? How long had he been on The Island before the Black Rock incident? Was that really him in the cabin back in The Man Behind the Curtain?

What exactly did the bomb do? When and where are the survivors now? Is it February 2010 yet?

[Mecha Cow]

Like Locke never came back to life? Is that what they're saying? Was Locke the guy with Jacob in the opening scene to begin with?
That's what they seem to be implying. I don't like the idea, and I hope the real Locke at least gets some proper closure.

Is it February 2010 yet?
What? Oh hell no. :(

[Duke]

I'm pretty sure Smokey is faux locke. It would explain why he wasn't around when Ben was judged and why Ben couldn't summon the monster when faux locke was right beside him.

Also Jacob touching them is pretty key and I think it has something to do with his "they are coming" comment to the fake Locke. He touched everyone expect Juliet in their flashbacks and we saw what happened to her.

Also, someone else told me that they think Rose and Bernard are the Adam and Eve couple from the first season. I agree with them and really like that theory a lot. They could easily have decomposed from the time they die to 2004. Bernard even said something along the lines of it doesn't matter if we die as long as we do it together. Also if Jacob's touch and the explosion have something to do with bringing all the remaining 815 survivors back together it would make since that Rose and Bernard don't make it back to present day since they weren't touched.

The only other major character in the past that wasn't touched was Miles. So I'm really curious what happens to him compared with the 1977 survivors who were touched (Syiad, Sawyer, Jin, Jack, Kate, and Hurley).

[Mr. Snackpants]

I was disappointed with the finale last night but now that it's sunk in I think it was good. Past finales have definitely gone out with more of a bang...with more of a shocking ending that reveals something. Past season finales left you with a general sense of where the show was heading. But not this one. This finale really left you guessing. They could take this show in any direction and that's what will make the next 6 months unbearable.

Some thoughts...

Jacobs friend, brother, or whoever he is, is the smoke monster. Either he always has been or something happened to him turning him into Smokie. This way you have Jacob who is good, light, almost like an angel with the touching of the 815'ers. Then there's the un-named guy who is evil, dark, the smoke monster.

I think Locke is really dead. Think about all the dead people we've seen come back to haunt people on the island. It's always been Smokie. Locke is no different. I think the eye at the end is Jacks from the very beginning of the series, hinting the explosion will take us back to day 1 with all of the survivors back on the beach. I remember reading an interview somewhere where the producers said all the answers are in the 1st episode.

I have no other guesses but I would assume there will be a lot of Jacob flashbacks next season, which would be great.

[Ninjinister]

I'd also like at least one more Richard-centric episode, one that, y'know, actually revealed something about him.

[Urbanski]

I loved it.

Duke mentioned that Rose and Bernard could end up being the "Adam and Eve" couple, and while that's entirely possible (anything's possible with this show), I've always believed that it will end up being Jack and Kate. Jack took two rocks (one black and one white) from the pocket of one of the corpses, so I would assume he still has them... and will one day take them again from his own dead body (again) to complete the endless circle. But, who knows?

I also thought they hinted at the possible return of Charlie for Season 6. They made a point to show Sun finding Charlie's ring, AND they made a point to have Hurley mention to Jacob that he'd forgot his guitar, to which Jacob replies, "It's not my guitar." My thinking is that it must be Charlie's guitar.

And the final scene where we always see the words LOST in white letters on a black screen changing to LOST in black letters on a white screen seems more significant to me than just "doing it because the show ended in a white flash" kind of thing. I think it signifies that possession of the island has now changed to (the guy I've been calling) Esau and now everything we know is now the opposite of what we thought it was.

[Duke]

That's awesome. I've been calling him Esau too.

[Mandi-chan]

Epic finale, but then again (for me anyway) every single episode's been pretty epic. Have I gushed enough over how much I love this show?

I suspect we'll see Charlie again next season (I hope so, I would be thrilled) since they made a point of bringing him up a few times in the finale (Sun finding his ring, Hurley telling Jacob how his curse caused Libby and Charlie to die, the implication that the guitar Jacob left behind in the cab belonged to Charlie...). I'm hoping we'll see Claire again too, I want to know how she died (assuming she did die...).

I also suspect we'll see Juliette again despite her death...since it was mentioned to her earlier in the show that she "looked" a lot like someone Ben cared about. I'm wondering if that someone is actually her. Probably not, but we'll just have to wait and see how that plays out.

I loved how the episode ended, the white flash followed by the title in black font against the white background. It kind of sent a chill down my spine...the end of the show is coming. I can't wait to see what they throw at us!