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Sewer Bull
03-17-2009, 09:03 AM
Two TMNT games made it to the list:

11. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (NES)
16. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Tournament Fighters (Genesis)

http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/galleries/top-25-worst-comic-book-video-games/

Ninjinister
03-17-2009, 09:27 AM
I saw this the other day and thought about mentioning it... but my thought process is retarded and I believe I ended up thinking of bunnies.

I contest the presence of TF on there though. Even though it was completely outclassed by the SNES version (any maybe the NES version, given what it did with its limitations), it still wasn't, overall, a bad game. It reminded me a lot of when I first played Fatal Fury.

And how is the 16-bit console version of Batman Forever in the list and not the arcade game? That game should definitely have been in the top 5. That was one of the most horrible games I've played period, let alone comic-based games.

oldmanwinters
03-17-2009, 12:44 PM
You know, I'd say 75% of people who owned an NES played the original TMNT and it's not that bad... just Konami-approved-frustratingly-hard and made questionable use of the rogues gallery. And TF for Genesis isn't so bad either. It's a generic fighter in the vein of SFII with washed out colors. The controls aren't bad, the computer AI is just cheap! I'm sure there are at least two comic book based games out there worse than these two! It is at least notable for making April a playable character for the first time.

X-Men for NES deserves to be in the top 10 though. Once I lost Iceman, Cyclops, and Storm I gave up.
But I wonder why Superman for NES missed out? It's Soooo bad and worse than TMNT in every way! Maybe they felt bad for him since they already put his Superman Returns and Superman 64 games on the list (along with Justice League: Task Force)?

Jester
03-17-2009, 12:54 PM
*looks to see if "Spider-man and the X-men: Arcade's Revenge" made the list*
It didn't!! What the crap, that game is totally blowful. The Game Boy and SNES graphics are almost identiacl, aside from color....SNES and GameBoy games with the same graphics....WTH!?

oldmanwinters
03-17-2009, 01:07 PM
*looks to see if "Spider-man and the X-men: Arcade's Revenge" made the list*
It didn't!! What the crap, that game is totally blowful. The Game Boy and SNES graphics are almost identiacl, aside from color....SNES and GameBoy games with the same graphics....WTH!?

How was the Genesis version? I've been kinda curious to experience it, even though I thought it's graphics looked dated when the game came out!

Spitfire
03-17-2009, 01:12 PM
Hell I agree those games do suck. Luckily Turtles In Time makes most people top SNES, brawler, side scroller, lists.

Zage
03-17-2009, 03:38 PM
I saw this the other day and thought about mentioning it... but my thought process is retarded and I believe I ended up thinking of bunnies.:tlol: best thought process ever.

Mr._Mutant_Man
03-29-2009, 01:02 PM
I don't think TMNT for the NES is that bad. It would be a lot better if it wasn't for the dam level, which is frustratingly hard. I would say that the dam level is the only really bad part of the game.

People complain about the tank thing in the beginning of the game, but what are you doing standing in front of a tank anyway? What do you think is going to happen? :roll:

Roland
03-29-2009, 04:31 PM
I don't think TMNT for the NES is that bad. It would be a lot better if it wasn't for the dam level, which is frustratingly hard. I would say that the dam level is the only really bad part of the game.

People complain about the tank thing in the beginning of the game, but what are you doing standing in front of a tank anyway? What do you think is going to happen? :roll: But the dam level isnt that bad their is a trick to get to higher platform just stand under and near the edge of the platforn jump high while coming down press forward near the edge of the platform do this the whole time you magical get on the platform. Some of the bosses are esay like rock steady and the big mouser because you stand under or above while using don. The technodrome jet pack dudes are tuff now they are irritaiting. But a cheat is near the end of the techodrome level a hall way walk near the jet pack dude duck and wait he will exit the screen and disappear. I personally dig this game!

Ninja Tiptup
06-02-2009, 02:50 AM
I don't think they've played any of the more recent TMNT games because good lord Mutant Melee and TMNT for PSP / DS deserve to be on that list where as Tournament Fighters for Genesis has it's flaws but plays plenty well enough and is a lot of fun.

shuriken
06-05-2009, 09:49 PM
In my humble, humble opinion, I totally disagree with Tmnt Nes being on there due to the fact that it is not a bad game. The controls are very responsive, the music is catchy and the level designs are pretty sweet. It's just super f**king hard. The Dam level is so easy once you know how to pace urself. Now fighting the Technodrome is something that always makes me sweat, as well as getting passed those damn Jetpack guys in the long Hallway before you own Shredder.
To be honest I always hated TF for the Genesis. The computer is super cheap, the desperation moves take an eternity to memorize and the controls are pretty clunky. Many people think TMNT for NES sucks because of it's difficulty, TF for genesis just plain sucks.

Cipher
06-06-2009, 01:01 AM
[COLOR="black"]In my humble, humble opinion, I totally disagree with Tmnt Nes being on there due to the fact that it is not a bad game. The controls are very responsive, the music is catchy and the level designs are pretty sweet. It's just super f**king hard. The Dam level is so easy once you know how to pace urself. Now fighting the Technodrome is something that always makes me sweat, as well as getting passed those damn Jetpack guys in the long Hallway before you own Shredder.No. There's intentional challenge, and then there's being hard purely by virtue of sh*tty level design. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is the latter. For evidence, I give you a building in level three in which you often climb a ladder only to be instantly, and unavoidably, charbroiled by a robot enemie's flames, knocking you back down to the lower floor. There is absolutely nothing you can do about this except leave and hope it loads a different set of enemies. That just makes me want to cry.

Then there are the flying enemies that come out of nowhere to make you fall to your death mid-jump. Yes, you can destroy them if you've memorized their appearence, but when the only way to avoid an obstacle is by remembering where it killed you the first time, the game isn't doing its job. That's not skill. That's f*cking trial and error.

Or the spot in in level two, where you slog through a room of enemies and are forced to make a precision jump (good luck) to a ladder, and failure to do so sends you back through the entire room of re-spawning enemies. To this day, for every one time I make that jump, I fail five more. It's not difficult, it's just irritating to have to kill those enemies over and over and over...

And defusing the dam bombs... Granted, it's not as hard as people say. There are later levels that put it to shame. And it's actually difficult by design rather than developer carelessness. However, I defy anyone to smoothly and accurately move through the pink seaweed on a regular basis.

Ninjinister
06-06-2009, 01:33 AM
I'm gonna have to go with Cipher on this one. The level design and enemy respawning of the first TMNT game is terrible.

Kendamu
06-06-2009, 09:17 AM
No. There's intentional challenge, and then there's being hard purely by virtue of sh*tty level design. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is the latter. For evidence, I give you a building in level three in which you often climb a ladder only to be instantly, and unavoidably, charbroiled by a robot enemie's flames, knocking you back down to the lower floor. There is absolutely nothing you can do about this except leave and hope it loads a different set of enemies. That just makes me want to cry.

Then take advantage of the respawning. When "how does i respawn pizza?" is answered, the game suddenly stops being as difficult as everyone whines that it is.

Then there are the flying enemies that come out of nowhere to make you fall to your death mid-jump. Yes, you can destroy them if you've memorized their appearence, but when the only way to avoid an obstacle is by remembering where it killed you the first time, the game isn't doing its job. That's not skill. That's f*cking trial and error.

That stuff is one of the biggest staples of the original Ninja Gaiden trilogy and it's put on a pedestal as a great series. Why is TMNT horrible for doing the same?

Or the spot in in level two, where you slog through a room of enemies and are forced to make a precision jump (good luck) to a ladder, and failure to do so sends you back through the entire room of re-spawning enemies. To this day, for every one time I make that jump, I fail five more. It's not difficult, it's just irritating to have to kill those enemies over and over and over...

Try the platforming stages in Double Dragon 2. While considered a great game, it's platforming has a lot more precision jumps in the latter portion that have much more dire consequences for messing up.

And defusing the dam bombs... Granted, it's not as hard as people say. There are later levels that put it to shame. And it's actually difficult by design rather than developer carelessness. However, I defy anyone to smoothly and accurately move through the pink seaweed on a regular basis.

Can't do that. I just make sure everyone's healthy before I jump into the river and leave either Leonardo or Donatello still healthy by the end of the level so I can grab some pizza in the building with the missiles in the next stage.

TMNT is a game that requires a strategic thought process. While not as fun as the arcade beat-em-up games, it's not the horrible piece of crap everyone decided it was as soon as the AVGN did satire on the things we all complain about from time to time.

oldmanwinters
06-06-2009, 11:00 AM
TMNT is a game that requires a strategic thought process. While not as fun as the arcade beat-em-up games, it's not the horrible piece of crap everyone decided it was as soon as the AVGN did satire on the things we all complain about from time to time.

Amen! Everyone seems to believe that a game must be bad just because the AVGN gets mad! :lol: I know he is just a character but he really did a poor job of playing it in that video.

Cure
06-06-2009, 12:57 PM
AVGN has nothing to do with it. The first TMNT IS an awful game.

Kendamu
06-06-2009, 01:40 PM
AVGN has nothing to do with it. The first TMNT IS an awful game.
Bull. The amount of hate for that game skyrocketed as soon as AVGN said something about it.

Yeesh. It's like being conservative only because Stephen Colbert acts conservative on TV.

VaughnMichael
06-06-2009, 02:11 PM
I've always hated the first TMNT game and I don't even know what avgn is.
Is it that hard to believe that people can have their own opinions?

Peanut
06-06-2009, 03:17 PM
Bull. The amount of hate for that game skyrocketed as soon as AVGN said something about it.

Agreed. Every time the AVGN rants on something, you'll immediately have a couple thousand little kids (and probably the same amount of adults) who've never played the game in question automatically trashing it. Not to say his stuff isn't thoroughly entertaining for those of us who've actually played the games, but it's an unfortunate side-effect that whatever he reviews is automatically thought to be one of the worst games of all-time.

I'm not going to disagree with the fact that the NES TMNT game has some serious serious problems, most of them stemming for poor level design and cheap enemy placement, and while I'd never call it a "good" or even a "decent" game, I'm also not going to say it was "WHOMG TERRIBLE!" either, certainly not to the extent people make it out to be at this point.

As was already stated, it shares a few similarities with Ninja Gaiden, but I think people take those similarities a little too far. The controls are nowhere near as responsive in TMNT as they are in NG, and the enemy placement is seemingly random in TMNT. The last few levels of Ninja Gaiden also get a lot of sh*t from knowledgeable players, too. So saying it gets away with stuff TMNT doesn't is a bit short-sighted.

Cipher
06-06-2009, 07:08 PM
Agreed. Every time the AVGN rants on something, you'll immediately have a couple thousand little kids (and probably the same amount of adults) who've never played the game in question automatically trashing it.Equally unfortunately, those who have played the game and legitimately think it's of poor quality (it is) are no longer free to criticise it without immediately having "You just hate it because of AVGN!" thrown at them. That is just as irritating, if not more.

I'm not going to disagree with the fact that the NES TMNT game has some serious serious problems, most of them stemming for poor level design and cheap enemy placement, and while I'd never call it a "good" or even a "decent" game, I'm also not going to say it was "WHOMG TERRIBLE!" either, certainly not to the extent people make it out to be at this point.I haven't seen anyone, in this thread at least, call it the worst game ever or anything. Most people simply say it's bad, for all the reasons you just listed.

As was already stated, it shares a few similarities with Ninja Gaiden, but I think people take those similarities a little too far.The key difference being that while Ninja Gaiden is balls-to-the-wall hard, it's competently designed. When you get killed in that game, you say, "Jeeze, didn't see that coming. That was a really sneaky enemy to put there."

When you get killed in TMNT you say, "Why the hell did a fire-breathing robot randomly have to spawn right at the top of the freaking ladder and make things impossible?"

Peanut
06-06-2009, 07:33 PM
Agreed with all of your points.

XERO
06-06-2009, 10:16 PM
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles for the NES.

A game that will live in infamy.

Meh, I still like it. Probably because I actually beat it. :P

Sanjuro
06-07-2009, 12:16 AM
I've played most of those games and most of it is spot on. The worst one in my opinion will forever be Batman: Dark Tomorrow being a huge Batman fan and attempting for eight hours or so to play the damn game.

I enjoyed the first turtles game. It was more the wrong game than an abomination. Tournament Fighters I have no problem being there, I always hated that version of the game.

Best superhero games that stick out in my mind that I have ever played are Batman (NES), X-Men (Arcade), and Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction (XBOX/PS2/GC).

Patraw
06-08-2009, 10:40 AM
I own both games, and while I don't know that I would personally put them on a worst comic games ever list, I can certainly see why someone would.

TMNT 1 for NES had a good concept, but, like a lot of NES games, it's just way too hard to be any fun. Having to constantly backtrack to find respawning pizzas to heal your turtles after a series of disastrous enemy/hazard encounters is a major buzzkill.

I own dozens of fighting games across numerous systems, and I have to say TMNT TF for Genesis is mediocre at best, and that's being generous--it's hard to believe the same company released the exceptional SNES version. It did give the world Sisyphus . . .

shuriken
06-14-2009, 11:58 PM
I own dozens of fighting games across numerous systems, and I have to say TMNT TF for Genesis is mediocre at best, and that's being generous--it's hard to believe the same company released the exceptional SNES version. It did give the world Sisyphus . . .

And the world is still trying to forget. But ot be honest I think JLA:Task Force is WAAAAY worse than TMNT:TF. Or maybe it's the crappy intro scene? And Spiderman and X-Men Arcade's Revenge is also craptacular compared to TMNT-NES. I dunno but it seems that the general consensus is that both games are pretty bad.

Prowler
06-15-2009, 10:13 AM
From that list I've only played the TMNT games, since I'm not a fan of comics.

TMNT 1 for NES has serious problems no doubt, but it's annoying the amount of hate it gets just because the Angry Video Game Nerd ranted on it, and some people don't know that many games he rants on he doesn't actually hate them (Castlevania II), people take his reviews WAY to seriously.

I've always liked TMNT 1 for NES, it has a great concept and it's the most original TMNT video game, not to mention one of its features is 4 lives = 4 turles (each turtle has a life) which was NEVER implemented in another TMNT game again.

I used to play that game all the time on my older brother NES, in fact it might've been the 1st video game I've ever played, and even though it was impossible when I was 6 years old I had a blast playing it, I can't even count how many times me and my brother died at the Dam level, I remember picking up the game for the 1st time in years last Summer and I felt so proud after beating the Dam level for the 1st time in my life. Now, the furthest I've gotten in the game was the Airport level.

It's one of the hardest games I've ever played and probably would enter in a "100 hardest games of all time list".

Meh, I still like it. Probably because I actually beat it.:P
Congratulations.

I'm serious, whoever was able to beat that game has my respect.

Patraw
06-17-2009, 10:47 AM
I'm afraid you're incorrect that only the NES game uses all four of the turtles as lives. Both 'Fall of The Foot Clan' and 'Back To The Sewers', for Gameboy, utilize the turtles in a similar fashion. Lose all four and it's game over. And, like the NES game, BttS lets you rescue captured turtles, thus regaining 'lives'.

Ninjinister
06-17-2009, 10:56 AM
S***, son, you had me actually thinking I had missed a Back to the Sewer game for a second there.

The GameBoy game was "Back From the Sewers".

Prowler
06-17-2009, 11:25 AM
I'm afraid you're incorrect that only the NES game uses all four of the turtles as lives. Both 'Fall of The Foot Clan' and 'Back To The Sewers', for Gameboy, utilize the turtles in a similar fashion. Lose all four and it's game over. And, like the NES game, BttS lets you rescue captured turtles, thus regaining 'lives'.
I don't think I've ever played that game. But yeah, still future games should consider using all 4 turtles as lives.

Lordmylar06
06-17-2009, 11:20 PM
Man, these guys were harsh on comic based video games. I actually liked the 1st TMNT, but probably because I played the snot out of it, memorized, and beat it. I also liked Wolverine: Adamantium Rage, though I admit to some Game Genie action there. Oh, wait! Superman 64, lol. I DID hate that game.

XERO
06-17-2009, 11:31 PM
Oh, wait! Superman 64, lol. I DID hate that game.

I DARE you to find somebody who didn't.

That'd be more difficult than those cyclone missions in that crapfest.:lol:

Patraw
06-19-2009, 09:14 AM
S***, son, you had me actually thinking I had missed a Back to the Sewer game for a second there.

The GameBoy game was "Back From the Sewers".

Whoops, you got me there. Easy mistake to make, but my apologies anyway. :P

Spike Spiegel
06-20-2009, 12:09 PM
S***, son, you had me actually thinking I had missed a Back to the Sewer game for a second there.

The GameBoy game was "Back From the Sewers".

I loved the first two original Game Boy TMNTs, but the third one, "Radical Rescue" deserves to burn in video game hell. It tries way too hard to be Metroid.

Patraw
06-22-2009, 10:37 AM
I have the exact opposite opinion, it's because the game aspires to be like Metroid, not a cookie-cutter beat-em-up, that I think it's the best of the original Gameboy trilogy. Not that I dislike the first two, I just felt the third was more innovative and the exploration-based gameplay richer. That said, I do give the first two credit for incorporating a fair amount of platforming gameplay, in addition to the redundant Foot Soldier whacking.

Kendamu
07-04-2009, 09:05 PM
People just seem to forget that most NES games were harder than fossilized snot coated in steel.

Dan
07-04-2009, 09:56 PM
Actuality I thought a lot of the games on that list weren't that bad. How did The Death and Return of Superman and the NES Wolverine game not make the list?

strawberryfields
07-09-2009, 12:20 PM
Man, the first TMNT game was O.K.

I played it back in the late nineties and I had no idea it was bad until I played the Arcade game and Manhattan Project.

I think its only bad because we got tons of other sweet TMNT games that far exceeded it. If, however, it was the only TMNT game to ever see a release, I think people would think differently of it.