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cqb101
04-01-2009, 09:20 AM
I'm sure everybody knows this by now, but a work print of the new Wolverine film has leaked online - a full month before its release. I'm in the process of downloading it now (don't ask me for any links). I need to see how badly they ****ed up Deadpool.

Ninjinister
04-01-2009, 09:35 AM
Ah, you got tricked into downloading a RickRoll, didn't you? April Fool's!

(Seriously, let us know how it went)

Sarah
04-01-2009, 11:16 AM
yeah, I just saw it and I must admit that it was better than I thought it would be. as mentioned above, the film was a work print so most of the CG effects werent finished yet. Deadpool was a major disappointment but the rest of the movie was good. the story was pretty interesting and Patrick Stewart makes a cameo near the end. and as usual theres a extra scene after the credits finish, it's nothing special, but if you're one of those people that doesn't watch the end credits then you'll miss it. Id post a link but I don't think that Im allowed to post movie links even if it's a flash link.

Mr. Snackpants
04-01-2009, 12:43 PM
I don't get why anyone would download this. If you go through the trouble of downloading it you're obviously anticipating it. Why ruin the movie by downloading a non polished copy and then watch it on your 21" screen?

Raph's Girl
04-01-2009, 06:52 PM
and Patrick Stewart makes a cameo near the end.

The workprint doesn't have the re-shoots that were done in Vancouver a couple weeks back. Im not gonna DL it. There's no point when it's an unfinished product. But knowing Patrick Stewart is in it now makes me wanna see the movie even more! :evilgrin:

Ninjinister
04-04-2009, 02:45 AM
Is Wade at least, y'know, Wade, in this? Funny, fourth wall breaking, and the like?

Jester
04-04-2009, 12:30 PM
Is Wade at least, y'know, Wade, in this? Funny, fourth wall breaking, and the like?
Funny, yes. Fourth wall breaking *Burne Thompson voice* Nononono!

Ninjinister
04-04-2009, 03:00 PM
Argh. That's disappointing. I expected him to say something like "Y'know I might be getting spinoff" or make some reference to the other three movies, or somesuch.

Brodie
04-04-2009, 04:42 PM
Someone had downloaded it at school, and I watched it on a pretty big tv. The quality was decent. But no amount of CGI will save this movie.

Its not The Spirit-bad, but it isnt very good.

Jester
04-04-2009, 04:51 PM
I think it trumps X-men 3.

Brodie
04-04-2009, 05:01 PM
I feel like even though there was a TON of characters and cameos in X3, I feel like they gave more characters more time in that film than they did for characters they're touting in this movie. Like they essentially glaze over everyone BUT Wolverine.

Jester
04-04-2009, 05:05 PM
Oddly, I felt the exact opposite way, I felt that with fewer characters there was a bit more given to this cast...but to each their own.

Lil G
04-20-2009, 02:24 AM
i personally loved it. but i am the biggest fanatic of wolverine so ima be pretty biased lol. i liked it though. im not at all happy at what they did with deadpool but it fits into the story.:ohwell:

cqb101
04-20-2009, 09:54 AM
i personally loved it. but i am the biggest fanatic of wolverine so ima be pretty biased lol. i liked it though. im not at all happy at what they did with deadpool but it fits into the story.:ohwell:

I can't see how a Wolverine fanatic could have loved this movie.

Brodie
04-20-2009, 11:48 AM
i personally loved it. but i am the biggest fanatic of wolverine so ima be pretty biased lol. i liked it though. im not at all happy at what they did with deadpool but it fits into the story.:ohwell:

Are you ****ing kidding me?

Spitfire
04-21-2009, 12:48 AM
I can't see how a Wolverine fanatic could have loved this movie.

When your 12 years old any PG-13 action film is the "coolest movie" you've ever seen. If it's rated R then it's the "coolest movie in the entire universe", especially if boobs are present.

Jester
04-21-2009, 01:06 AM
When your 12 years old any PG-13 action film is the "coolest movie" you've ever seen. If it's rated R then it's the "coolest movie in the entire universe", especially if boobs are present.
You sir have illicited the slow clap.
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Cipher
04-22-2009, 03:32 PM
This film lost my ticket when the "bad-ass" one liner they picked to end the trailer was "I'll try cutting your head off and see if that works."

I know you're writing an action movie, but c'mon. Have a little bit of self-respect.

Raph's Girl
05-01-2009, 03:32 PM
Welp. I've seen the Wolverine movie and I actually like it! There's a couple WTF moments where Emma Frost and "Deadpool" are concerned. They actually kinda gave Emma a background....What With Logan boinking her sister Kayla... :P...Im guessing that Emma's now of Native American descent.... I haven't laughed while watching a movie so much in a while. It's got alot of funny liners like:


"Pa.. I think there's a naked man in the barn..."
"Stryker finally got you to shut up..."
"Koo Koo Ca Choo got screwed..."
"Ok. They're dead now..."


Things I liked:

Scott and Emma team up
Gambit
Prof. Xavier!
Wade's one liners


Total WTF moments:

WTF? Prof. Xavier was walking?!
WTF?! Logan's from the Northwest Territories?! I thought he was from Alberta?!

They should have kept the Chibi Storm cameo. Course they had another potential cameo if they thought about it. I was half expecting Black Panther to show up! They used Vibranium to make Adamantium! They never named it but come on... a sacred rock from the sky in Africa?? Pft. :P

ZariusTwo
05-01-2009, 03:52 PM
God what a peice of s*it. I'm glad the general consensus is pretty much against this movie.

Marvel are well known for not taking their time with some movies...they definatly rushed this nonsense out. Jackman completly forgot this was a prequel and acted more half-heartedly in the role than he did in X-Men 3. As such, I didnt care at all for what he was doing. The character inaccuracies, appauling acting, ludicrous plot contrivences, the wasting of a good character like Deadpool, and the unnecersary cameos all but make one ask why they didnt just botheh having Logan assemble a new team for himself and progress his story rather than lazily go through the motions.

This is no masterpeice folks. This is "X-Men for Dummies", it's for noone with any real respect for the character or the franchise.

R-iZZy
05-01-2009, 04:47 PM
Okay, I'm going to keep this post extremely short. I've made my point known on other boards, but they happen to be very lenient with the things you can say.

All I can is what they did to Deadpool was inexcusable. What a horrible f***ing joke of a movie this is.

In my rants on other forums, I had a long list of complaints not only from a comic fanboy side, but from a movie critic side as well, but like I said, I'm keeping this post short.

Movie sucked, I should've seen the workprint so I could've at least saved my money; garbage retelling to an already great story. Butchered characters and histories. The movie took a complete piss on the source material and the readers of that material. If you don't care about it depicting the source material accurately and are just in it for the action, go for it. You'll enjoy it. If you came to see your beloved characters that you've grown up on come to life, look elsewhere cuz you won't find it here.

Brodie
05-01-2009, 05:12 PM
Total WTF moments:

WTF? Prof. Xavier was walking?!




Are you dumb? He wasn't always crippled. This just goes to show you don't know dick about anything you pretend to.

Raph's Girl
05-01-2009, 07:00 PM
Are you dumb? He wasn't always crippled. This just goes to show you don't know dick about anything you pretend to.

I know he wasn't always crippled!! He was crippled by an alien and was in a wheelchair when he first met Scott in the comics!! In the movie tho he's walking when he meets Scott, Emma, and the others! Yeesh!

cqb101
05-01-2009, 07:48 PM
I know he wasn't always crippled!! He was crippled by an alien and was in a wheelchair when he first met Scott in the comics!! In the movie tho he's walking when he meets Scott, Emma, and the others! Yeesh!

Of all the changes between the comics and movies, that's what you dwell on? Yeesh is right.

FlawedCoil82
05-01-2009, 09:12 PM
I haven't seen this movie yet. I am not setting my hopes too high. So far, the best thing to come out of this movie was encouraging the long overdue release of the X-Men animated series. I will admit, I am not too knowledgeable about Deadpool, nor do I know his history, other than him being badly disfigured and being a smartass assassin. Although I doubt they can do as much damage to his character as X-Men 3 did to Cyclops, Professor X and Jean Grey. But I can't say for certain until I see it.
Jack

Raph's Girl
05-01-2009, 09:16 PM
Although I doubt they can do as much damage to his character as X-Men 3 did to Cyclops, Professor X and Jean Grey. But I can't say for certain until I see it.
Jack

Just wait till you see the movie. You'll change your mind rather quickly.

FlawedCoil82
05-01-2009, 09:21 PM
Did they give him the mutant ability to turn into a butterfly in the movie or what? :| I don't know Deadpool's backstory from the comics so if they made any major changes, I don't think that I would notice them (unless it's something really screwed up.....like them trying to say he is really the father of Wolverine or something). I have the 4 issue Deadpool comic mini-series somewhere....perhaps I should re-read them? It has been MANY years and I barely remember them.
Jack

Jester
05-01-2009, 09:52 PM
I just wanna know where Scott got the ruby-quartz sunglasses, before meeting Professor X. I know...minor nit pick. To be honest, I also know next to nothing about Wade. And were any of the other other members of the Weapon Squad supposed to be anyone from actual comic continuity? (Well, aside from Logan, Victor, and Blob...)

One big question I have is if the memory sector of Logan's brain was physically damaged and not psychically shielded, how can Professor Xavier pull the old memories to the surface. It's not like the were washed away through technology or mutant abilities, but physically blown away by a freakin' bullet.

Watching it again, it doesn't hold up...the "Stryker is pulling the strings" angle is very obvious...

Ginny
05-01-2009, 10:14 PM
Well, I went this afternoon and I liked it. Although, and please excuse me for my "girly" moment, I think that is mainly due to Hugh Jackman being so freakin' hot and not the actual movie. But as much as that man makes me drool, I still can't say I loved it. There were some great scenes and funny lines though.

MasterShredder
05-01-2009, 11:39 PM
Did they give him the mutant ability to turn into a butterfly in the movie or what? :| I don't know Deadpool's backstory from the comics so if they made any major changes, I don't think that I would notice them (unless it's something really screwed up.....like them trying to say he is really the father of Wolverine or something). I have the 4 issue Deadpool comic mini-series somewhere....perhaps I should re-read them? It has been MANY years and I barely remember them.
Jack

Well....the blades coming out of his hands....BIG NO NO! Laser eyes, transportation, healing factor, and the absence of a mouth are not characteristics of our beloved Deadpool.

He is pretty much and highly skilled human-being. But as the story goes, he gets cancer, goes insane and becomes his usual wise-cracking, breaking the fourth wall, mercenary, self.

Ninjinister
05-01-2009, 11:57 PM
Uh... Deadpool does have a healing factor. And teleportation (though that's because of a device and not a power).

Jade Green
05-02-2009, 12:53 AM
I haven't read the comics in a while, so maybe someone can double check this for me: Dead Pool never had the power to teleport, it was thanks to a belt he wore.

...And I just reread Ninjinister's post, so yeah... the belt.

Voltron
05-02-2009, 12:55 AM
I liked it. It was fun to watch. Story wasn't anything to write home about, but it was a nice way to pace two hours. Then again, I was never terribly familiar with some of the characters, so I could understand why some might be pissed.

R-iZZy
05-02-2009, 03:20 AM
Since we're going on things to complain about:

- Wolverine and Sabretooth are brothers? REALLY?
- When did Blob ever work for the Weapon X program?
- Deadpool after the experimentation; every-f***ing-thing about him screamed "I'm not Deadpool" with the Deadpool moniker to his name.
- To get more into Deadpool: optic blasts and the ability to teleport without a device? Having Wi-Fi in his brain and catching command prompts from Stryker?
- Emma Frost and Silver Fox being sisters? We're talking about a Native American and a straight-up Caucasian.
- Wolverine lost his memory to... wait for it... an adamantium bullet shot to the head. LMFAOOOOOOOOO!!!
- You borrowed elements from the Wolverine Origin story as it was, did you seriously need to go 3/4ths the way into the origin and then decide to put your own spin on it for the last quarter of the way? It was goddamn retarded.
- Deadpool once again. That was so f***ing horrible that it needed another mentioning. Seriously, they welded his mouth so he couldn't even be the Merc with the Mouth. What the fick fuggity f***?!
- Silver Fox had the ability to control minds? Wow. A lot different from the power she had in the comics... and I mean completely different.

These are just complaints from a comic fanboy perspective. I haven't even gone in on this movie from a film critic's perspective yet.

Candy Kappa
05-02-2009, 03:51 AM
this one's awesome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1R5PhReY5k

what they done to deadpool in the movie sucks (of what eve heard and read)
but I'm gonna see this movie.

I hardly think they can screw deadpool like they did with nightcrawler

Ninjinister
05-02-2009, 03:57 AM
this one's awesome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1R5PhReY5k


Saw that earlier today (love Marvel/DC)... I actually thought about posting it to tell people it was to make up for his treatment in the movie :lol:

Candy Kappa
05-02-2009, 04:12 AM
at least deadpool looks awesome in the wolverine vs hullk movie

Ninjinister
05-02-2009, 05:24 AM
at least deadpool looks awesome in the wolverine vs hullk movie

Oh, he totally is! Nolan North FTW.

Raven
05-02-2009, 12:15 PM
I saw the movie last night, and Im probably one of the few who isnt going to bitch about deadpool. I kind of like what they did with him, but he ended up being a plot bitch in more ways then one.

It was a fun movie, with some heart to it. Not much mind you, but the tension between Logan and Victor defiently was fun to watch through the film. Some of there fights were the best of the whole film, compared to the anticlimatic end fight scene. Which really felt cheap.

The Blob scene was funny as hell, probably my favorite scene of the film. I guess this movie gets a 3/5 from me. Kept me interested all the way through, but some glaring mistakes really kept me from really getting into it like I would have like to.

Raph's Girl
05-02-2009, 05:30 PM
Ok in the comics the team featured somewhat in the movie was Team X...only instead of Blob there was a fellow named Mastadon and instead of Silver Fox being on the team she was replaced by Wade Wilson and Chris Bradley.

Comix Team X: Logan, Sabertooh, Mastadon, Maverick, Kestrel, and SilverFox

Movie: Logan, Sabertooth, Agent Zero (aka Maverick)*Note: In the comics he's German*, Kestrel/John Raith (the teleporter), Wade Wilson, Blob, Chris Bradley (aka Bolt aka Maverick II)

Logan and Sabertooth being brothers has been hinted at since the Wolverine Origin comic.

cqb101
05-02-2009, 07:40 PM
I haven't seen this movie yet. I am not setting my hopes too high. So far, the best thing to come out of this movie was encouraging the long overdue release of the X-Men animated series. I will admit, I am not too knowledgeable about Deadpool, nor do I know his history, other than him being badly disfigured and being a smartass assassin. Although I doubt they can do as much damage to his character as X-Men 3 did to Cyclops, Professor X and Jean Grey. But I can't say for certain until I see it.
Jack

As a huge fan of Deadpool (He's my favorite comic character and I have all of his appearances), I'd say the ****ed him up just as bad as the ones you mentioned, if not more. Which is really too bad because Reynolds was born to play the part and at the very beginning he totally nailed the character.

Well....the blades coming out of his hands....BIG NO NO! Laser eyes, transportation, healing factor, and the absence of a mouth are not characteristics of our beloved Deadpool.


Deadpool has always has healing powers (that are stronger than Wolverine's, as well).

FlawedCoil82
05-06-2009, 09:17 PM
Well I finally saw X-Men Origins: Wolverine today. I liked it (probably a little bit more than X-Men 3). Definitely not without it's flaws though.

However I can understand why the Deadpool fans were upset. Had Weapon XI been another random mutant and NOT Deadpool, then I would have enjoyed it far better. It's just the fact that they did that to Deadpool is what angers me. Perhaps they will eventually say that Weapon XI was a clone of Deadpool instead? I also would have much more liked to see Gambit fighting Weapon XI with Wolverine instead of Sabretooth.

Zachatello00
05-09-2009, 09:33 PM
best Xmen movie yet!

TheCanadiandrome
05-09-2009, 09:34 PM
i thought it was alright. yeah it wasn't without it's flaws, but good movies do occassionally have flaws. i like how it sets up for the first X-Men movie. btw, did anyone stay for the stuff during and after the credits?

cqb101
05-09-2009, 10:05 PM
best Xmen movie yet!

...It's good to know I can never trust your opinion on movies.

Ra
05-09-2009, 10:33 PM
Everyone sing it with me now!

"He's a lumberjack and he's okay!
He works all night and he works all day!"

Okay, now that I've got that out of my system for the second time after seeing the movie, I can continue.

It was alright. A good way to spend two hours as well; watching everyone beat the crap out of everyone. Everyone has mentioned the faults of the movie before me, but I think the most jarring things was Sabertooth and Wolverine's relationship.

Okay, so I was laughing all the way through the movie as Sabertooth kept calling Wolverine "Jimmy", but... seriously, some of the parts between the two seemed to be a bit forced. Kinda sets up a bit of a plot hole from the first X-Men movie as well with the two (unless Sabertooth also lost his memory but thinking about it too much makes my head hurt).

Then there was Dudepeel.

Goddamn ****in' Dudepeel.

He was fine at the start of the movie, but once he was all powered up and mouth sewn shut and all that... UGH.

Okay I'm done ranting now.

TheCanadiandrome
05-10-2009, 12:19 AM
Everyone sing it with me now!

"He's a lumberjack and he's okay!
He works all night and he works all day!"

Okay, now that I've got that out of my system for the second time after seeing the movie, I can continue.

Okay, so I was laughing all the way through the movie as Sabertooth kept calling Wolverine "Jimmy", but... seriously, some of the parts between the two seemed to be a bit forced. Kinda sets up a bit of a plot hole from the first X-Men movie as well with the two (unless Sabertooth also lost his memory but thinking about it too much makes my head hurt).

Then there was Dudepeel.

Goddamn ****in' Dudepeel.

He was fine at the start of the movie, but once he was all powered up and mouth sewn shut and all that... UGH.

Okay I'm done ranting now.

see, i completely agree with you about Deadpool. i was kind of expecting something better than what they gave us. and what was up with the "Jimmy" thing? is is name like Jimmy Logan or what? and i did kinda know from the cartoon that they're brothers. also, lol at Patrick Stewart's cameo. i said to my buddy, that on the DVD commentary it'll be like "this scene cost us $1,000,000 and that was on Stewart's face alone! :lol: but it was cool they tried to put him in. Cyclops was a pussy, but i guess, he was still young "did i get them?" :roll: also, Gambit was pretty cool

all in all, it was a good movie. not a master piece by any means, but at least better than the last two X-men movies

Raph's Girl
05-10-2009, 02:08 AM
Everyone sing it with me now!

"He's a lumberjack and he's okay!
He works all night and he works all day!"


*lol* During that scene all I could think of was how I always thought the name of the show "Axe Men" sounded like X-Men....and now Logan is both! Also since most X books have the X as the main capitol letter (IE eXcalibur or X-men Xtreme) he could have been an eXtreme logger too since that's the Canadian logging show. :lol:

Oh and as for his name. His birth name is James Howlett. Logan was his biological father's surname. His mother was born Elizabeth Hudson. Thru her Logan is related to everybody with that surname he's ever met...and killed.

VaughnMichael
05-10-2009, 06:32 AM
Saw it yesterday eh it was ok wasn't the worst movie I've seen in recent years (30 days of night anyone), it also wasn't the best the best (the last Batman movie).
I can see why people are bitching but I enjoyed it for a movie about mutants some things are quite out of place but eh what movie doesn't change things up from the comics these days.
The one thing I didn't really care for was Gambit oddly enough, guess I expected more.
Over all I'd give the movie like a B- or C+

ZariusTwo
05-10-2009, 10:34 AM
all in all, it was a good movie. not a master piece by any means, but at least better than the last two X-men movies

Christ, you seriously thought this bollo0cks was better than X-Men 2?:lol:

Jester
05-10-2009, 02:01 PM
X-2 is by far the best X-Men movie...Wolverine may have trumped 3, but it also suffers from the same malady, to many mutants with not enough screen time.

Samhain
05-10-2009, 02:19 PM
best Xmen movie yet!

My thoughts exactly. In my opinion, number 1 should have been this movie.

Candy Kappa
05-10-2009, 02:29 PM
I don't like X-2, they made nightcrawler a wuss in that movie

Brodie
05-10-2009, 05:16 PM
I can't believe you people. X2 is bad? Better than X3?

Jesus H. Christ, Chief.

Mecha Cow
05-10-2009, 05:20 PM
I know it's a matter of opinion and all, but I'll never be able to take anyone who honestly thinks X3 and Wolverine are good movies seriously. I mean... wow.

GK Punk
05-10-2009, 05:25 PM
I thought Wolverine was decent. I wouldn't go see it a second time, but it was a lot better than X3.

Ra
05-10-2009, 06:10 PM
X2 is the best damn movie of the whole bunch in my opinion. If anyone thinks that Wolverine is a better movie, they really need to watch the two movies side-by-side. I always loved X2, and I stand by it being the best of the X-Men line.

Still, it's everyone's opinion.

GK Punk
05-10-2009, 06:23 PM
I actually agree completely with you on that. X2 still stands the highest.

cqb101
05-10-2009, 07:05 PM
I know it's a matter of opinion and all, but I'll never be able to take anyone who honestly thinks X3 and Wolverine are good movies seriously. I mean... wow.

This.

I can't believe you people. X2 is bad? Better than X3?

Jesus H. Christ, Chief.

Seriously. Am I in the twilight zone all of a sudden?

Jester
05-10-2009, 07:16 PM
This.



Seriously. Am I in the twilight zone all of a sudden?
Twilight! Now there's a movie that was great. I wish all vampire movies were more like Twilight.




Was the sarcasm obvious? Please say you could tell I was kidding....Oh well I guess it gives me an excuse.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/PDVD_075.jpg

R-iZZy
05-10-2009, 08:39 PM
LOL @ the thought of Wolverine or X3 even being anywhere near the level of quality as X2. Bryan Singer knew how to make good X-Men movies, even if some of the characters weren't portrayed as accurately as a fanboy would like. The plot's pacing, the cinematography and usage of characters were on-point for the most part.

TheCanadiandrome
05-11-2009, 01:02 AM
Twilight! Now there's a movie that was great. I wish all vampire movies were more like Twilight.

Was the sarcasm obvious? Please say you could tell I was kidding....Oh well I guess it gives me an excuse.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/PDVD_075.jpg

ROFL! :lol: :D

Christ, you seriously thought this bollo0cks was better than X-Men 2?:lol:

well, ok X-Men 3 for sure, not so much X-Men two, deffinately X-Men one though. honestly yes X-men 2 was good, but you guys give it way too much credit, it did have some flaws, it wasn't perfect by any means. and i'll add this, Cyclops sucks ass in all X-Men movies imho, and Hugh Jackman/Wolverinr is kickass in all X-Men movies!

Cipher
05-11-2009, 01:28 AM
Saw this tonight with a friend just because we're both off college earlier than everyone else and were looking for something to do.

What can I really say? I love how it tactfully inserted every single action movie cliche.

ThirdMarioBro
05-11-2009, 03:35 AM
Saw it. Worst Marvel movie ever.

Ra
05-11-2009, 06:39 AM
Bonus points for seeing nudie hurdles though, right?

Brodie
05-11-2009, 09:10 AM
Saw it. Worst Marvel movie ever.

Uhm. Elektra.

The Stryker
05-11-2009, 09:49 AM
Ghost Rider, Punisher (Dolph Version)?

cqb101
05-11-2009, 10:36 AM
Ghost Rider, Punisher (Dolph Version)?

Man-Thing.

Brodie
05-11-2009, 10:59 AM
Yeah, all of those are valid on their terrible-ness (except for the Punisher flick mentioned because there was NEVER a bad Punisher movie).

Also, lets not forget the ORIGINAL Fantastic 4 movie, from the 90s.

Cipher
05-11-2009, 11:56 AM
Did anyone actually enjoy The Hulk?

Brodie
05-11-2009, 12:19 PM
The Hulk is far from the worst Marvel movie. It was really just trying to be too many things at once...like, it's artsy, then its a comic book, then its a love story, then its a scifi thriller, then its horror, then its military drama, then its psychological, and then there are mutant poodles.

Its a decent movie to watch every few years.

Mecha Cow
05-11-2009, 12:40 PM
Hulk (No "the") has some messed up priorities and I can understand it might be somewhat disappointing to fans expecting straight-up action, but it's a nice enough movie that gets way more sh*t than it deserves. I've noticed most people criticize it for what it isn't rather than for what it is. I actually enjoyed it more than last year's The Incredible Hulk.

Worst Marvel movie is probably still X3 (But I haven't seen Elektra or Ghost Rider... and the latter does have Nicolas Cage).

Candy Kappa
05-11-2009, 12:47 PM
... and the latter does have Nicolas Cage.

daredevil got Ben Affleck....

Elektra was just boring

Brodie
05-11-2009, 01:06 PM
Say what you want about Daredevil, but lay off Affleck. He did the creepy blind-guy-looking-at-you-but-not-AT-you-cross-eyed-thing really well.

Cipher
05-11-2009, 01:58 PM
I've noticed most people criticize it for what it isn't rather than for what it is.My problem with it is that it is an incoherent mess. I didn't see it with any expectations. I know almost nothing about the mythology of a character. It's simply not a good movie.

It probably isn't the worst thing Marvel's put out. I still haven't seen (and probably won't see) Ghost Rider or Elektra. I just remember watching Hulk and thinking it was a really, really incompetent film.

Peanut
05-11-2009, 02:26 PM
Ghost Rider isn't as bad as people made it out to be, but Elektra is f*cking awful. Easily the worst Marvel movie I've seen.

My problem with it is that it is an incoherent mess.

Just an example of people blowing it our of proportion. Aside from the fact that the movie was boring as hell and the ending was completely out there, there was nothing terribly wrong with it. At least not in the way everyone seems to think. It wasn't a great movie, but it also wasn't poorly made, which I think mostly stems from hearsay more-so than anyone ever having sat down and watched the movie without looking for flaws. Anyone who saw Hulk after it came out were already convinced it would be awful. Seeing anything under those circumstances automatically makes something 10x worse than it actually is.

Cipher
05-11-2009, 02:46 PM
Anyone who saw Hulk after it came out were already convinced it would be awful. Seeing anything under those circumstances automatically makes something 10x worse than it actually is.I saw it not knowing how bad its reviews were. I was not looking for a terrible movie. I got one anyway. Why can't I think it was a bad movie without jumping on the bandwagon?

It was probably better than Wolverine on a purely objective level (although the latter had some unintentionally hilarious moments). It was also probably better than Michael Bay's Transformers.

raphael_is_cool
05-11-2009, 03:26 PM
Eric Bana is awesome. So Hulk could not have been all bad.

Peanut
05-11-2009, 03:57 PM
I saw it not knowing how bad its reviews were. I was not looking for a terrible movie. I got one anyway. Why can't I think it was a bad movie without jumping on the bandwagon?

You may be missing my point here. You can think it's bad all you want, but making as strong a statement as the movie is "an incoherent mess" is saying more than you disliked it. To me, that's conveying you believe the movie to be some kind of thrown together schlock, which I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with, even if I don't like the movie either. But by all means, my good sir, dislike it until your heart is content, I would be in that boat with you.

Eric Bana is awesome. So Hulk could not have been all bad.

Agreed.

Leo656
05-11-2009, 04:15 PM
I liked parts of Hulk a lot more than some parts of Incredible Hulk. And vice-versa. They both did a lot of stuff really well for the character. I totally agree 100% with what Brodie said about the first one trying to do too much. I thought it was just fine but the CGI was lackluster. The one thing people keep saying to me is that they thought it was boring, so I'm implied to believe Hulk gets a bad rap simply b/c it wasn't two hours of "Shreck on a 'roid rampage". And Bana was awesome.

"Daredevil: The Director's Cut" goes a long way towards redeeming that movie. Minus that lousy playground scene, the rest of the DC is what that movie should've been. I remember reading in Wizard about a bunch of scenes in that flick, then in the theatre I was like, "Wait, what happened to...?" All the cool stuff got stuck on the DC for some reason.

I'm pretty much resigned to the DVD for Wolverine at this point. Started out looking good, but I keep hearing "X-Men 3", which I regret paying twice to see as it is, so I'm just gonna wait.

Dan
05-11-2009, 04:22 PM
Ok in the comics the team featured somewhat in the movie was Team X...only instead of Blob there was a fellow named Mastadon and instead of Silver Fox being on the team she was replaced by Wade Wilson and Chris Bradley.

Comix Team X: Logan, Sabertooh, Mastadon, Maverick, Kestrel, and SilverFox

Movie: Logan, Sabertooth, Agent Zero (aka Maverick)*Note: In the comics he's German*, Kestrel/John Raith (the teleporter), Wade Wilson, Blob, Chris Bradley (aka Bolt aka Maverick II)[/SPOILER] Actually according to Wikipedia Deadpool was part of Team X.

Jester
05-11-2009, 05:42 PM
Saw it. Worst Marvel movie ever.
Have you seen Howard the Duck?
Or Fantastic Four '94?
Or Captain America?
Or the other 2 Fantastic Four films?
Or Electra?

Man, I need to read the pages between my posts...though some of these haven't been mentioned.

cqb101
05-11-2009, 09:24 PM
Have you seen Howard the Duck?
Or Fantastic Four '94?
Or Captain America?
Or the other 2 Fantastic Four films?
Or Electra?

Man, I need to read the pages between my posts...though some of these haven't been mentioned.

I'll take the 2 Fantastic Four films over Wolverine any day of the week.

Jester
05-11-2009, 09:28 PM
What of the others on the list...and those are just Marvel....though to be fair DC taks a little more care with their heroes.

FlawedCoil82
05-11-2009, 10:12 PM
I just went and saw Wolverine (again) with my sister and her roommate. They both loved it.

Did anyone know there were two seperate endings for this movie? The first ending on one print shows Wolverine in Japan having a drink to try and "remember", whereas the version I saw tonight (same theater, different screen) shows Deadpool's arm coming out of the debris and it grabs his head and then he smiles (he has a mouth again). Interesting.
Jack

Mr. Stay Puft
05-11-2009, 10:46 PM
Well I finally saw X-Men Origins: Wolverine today. I liked it (probably a little bit more than X-Men 3). Definitely not without it's flaws though.

However I can understand why the Deadpool fans were upset. Had Weapon XI been another random mutant and NOT Deadpool, then I would have enjoyed it far better. It's just the fact that they did that to Deadpool is what angers me. Perhaps they will eventually say that Weapon XI was a clone of Deadpool instead? I also would have much more liked to see Gambit fighting Weapon XI with Wolverine instead of Sabretooth.

Supposedly, there is a third post-credit scene in which Wade Wilson shows up at the wreckage of the explosion and picks up Weapon XI's head and say "Who the hell are you supposed to be?" This would imply that Deadpool and Weapon XI are two separate characters. This is only from what I've viewed on other message boards and websites, so I'm not certain if it's true or not.

cqb101
05-11-2009, 10:55 PM
Supposedly, there is a third post-credit scene in which Wade Wilson shows up at the wreckage of the explosion and picks up Weapon XI's head and say "Who the hell are you supposed to be?" This would imply that Deadpool and Weapon XI are two separate characters. This is only from what I've viewed on other message boards and websites, so I'm not certain if it's true or not.

Pretty sure that's not true.

TheCanadiandrome
05-11-2009, 11:15 PM
Have you seen Howard the Duck?
Or Fantastic Four '94?
Or Captain America?
Or the other 2 Fantastic Four films?
Or Electra?



also: Spiderman 3, the first Hulk movie, & DareDevil, and there's likely others, just google "Marvel Movies"


I'll take the 2 Fantastic Four films over Wolverine any day of the week.

OMG, really? for shame :lol:

also, i call bs on all those other so-called extra end-credit endings most recently posted. there were no more than two post and during credit endings in the version i saw on Friday. so if there are any more endings they'll likely be included on the DVD release

The Stryker
05-12-2009, 08:05 AM
Daredevil and Fantastic Four 1 and 2 are way better than Wolverine and Spider-man 3 is my favorite of the series. Sue me.

GK Punk
05-12-2009, 08:20 AM
also: Spiderman 3,



Spider-Man.

I'm pretty sure my head will explode one day.

Ra
05-12-2009, 08:38 AM
When that day comes we'll have a bucket and a mop ready for you.

Brodie
05-12-2009, 09:02 AM
Spider-Man.

I'm pretty sure my head will explode one day.

Actually, yeah, I really hated the Spider-Man movies.

raphael_is_cool
05-12-2009, 11:30 AM
Spider-Man.

I'm pretty sure my head will explode one day.

"It's not like Phil Spidermen. He's a spider man. You know, like Goldmen is a last name but there's no gold man."

cqb101
05-12-2009, 11:40 AM
"It's not like Phil Spidermen. He's a spider man. You know, like Goldmen is a last name but there's no gold man."


Hahahahaha! I just watched that episode a few days ago.

Peanut
05-12-2009, 11:46 AM
Spider-Man 3 was entertaining as f*ck. I don't care what anyone says. It may not have been entertaining for the reasons I'd like a Spider-Man movie to be entertaining for, but I got a kick out of anyways.

raphael_is_cool
05-12-2009, 11:56 AM
Spider-Man 3 was entertaining as f*ck. I don't care what anyone says. It may not have been entertaining for the reasons I'd like a Spider-Man movie to be entertaining for, but I got a kick out of anyways.

I'm actually agreed on that. If you view Spider-Man 3 as a brainless comedy or whatever it's actually pretty entertaining. For a long film I didn't even check my watch.

To be honest, I viewed Wolverine and X-Men 3 in the same way. If it wasn't that good it was still pretty funny when it was bad.

I can't really explain it well but X-Men 1 & 2 and Spider-Man 1 & 2 just had the wrong sort of tone for me. They were halfway between something serious and something comic book-like and it just didn't work.

Peanut
05-12-2009, 12:13 PM
Stryker and I were just talking about it. The first two movies felt very heavy-handed. I think that has a lot to do with it. Spider-Man (and the X-Men) are these really "out there" ideas. I feel like when you try to bring a level of seriousness to something so inherently silly, it sends mixed signals. Spider-Man 3 embraced that comic book absurdity better than the other two, the same way X3 did it with the X-Men movies.

Honestly, I think people take these comic book movies a lot more seriously than they should. Of course, that doesn't excuse movies like Elektra that are truly terrible, but I think if you look at stuff like Spider-Man 3 without that critical eye, you can enjoy it a lot more for what it is, rather than what it isn't.

Voltron
05-12-2009, 12:40 PM
Spidey 1 made sense. It was a fun movie, integrated the comics but translated them into the real world.

Spidey 2 was Spidey 1 with Doc Ock.

Spidey 3 was ****. It was ****. Too much was happening with no sense mingled in it what-so-ever. The only thing that entertained me about 3 is the notion that I could crap on a stack of paper and have it made into a movie.

Mecha Cow
05-12-2009, 12:46 PM
Hey now, Spider-Man 3 may be a clusterf*ck of a movie, but it's entertaining as hell. I actually went to see it a second time because it made me laugh so hard.

Ra
05-12-2009, 05:57 PM
I only saw a few snipets of Spider-Man 3. I'll admit, from what I saw I liked the second movie better, but it was still entertaining.

I really need to sit down and watch it in full one day though...

TheCanadiandrome
05-12-2009, 11:39 PM
Honestly, I think people take these comic book movies a lot more seriously than they should. Of course, that doesn't excuse movies like Elektra that are truly terrible, but I think if you look at stuff like Spider-Man 3 without that critical eye, you can enjoy it a lot more for what it is, rather than what it isn't.

oh i totally agree. i wasn't saying i didin't like Spider-Man (there i used the damn hyphen, piss off! :lol:) hell, i own all three movies, i just pointed out that compared to the first two it wasn't exactly that great, and we were listing not so great Marvel movies

GK Punk
05-12-2009, 11:43 PM
Spider-Man (there i used the damn hyphen, piss off! :lol:)

Someone needs to get used to the in jokes around here before throwing insults around.

Jester
05-12-2009, 11:48 PM
I just say Spidey...no need for tha dang blasted hyphen, you anal retentive old douche! :D

GK Punk
05-12-2009, 11:55 PM
That's it, BANNED

TheCanadiandrome
05-13-2009, 12:06 AM
Someone needs to get used to the in jokes around here before throwing insults around.

i love a good joke, just not at my expense! :lol: :D but hey it's all good up here in the hood dude, it's all love and respect.

Jester
05-13-2009, 12:11 AM
I should have known that word would do it! :D

GK Punk
05-13-2009, 01:06 AM
You're like the Mcoy to my Kirk.

TheCanadiandrome
05-13-2009, 01:27 AM
well, if i may be Spock i say this whole thing is illogical

Peanut
05-13-2009, 06:07 AM
God damn it! Star Trek is penetrating every thread on this forum. NO MORE YOU F*CKING TREKKIES!

TheCanadiandrome
05-13-2009, 01:56 PM
God damn it! Star Trek is penetrating every thread on this forum. NO MORE YOU F*CKING TREKKIES!

ROFL! :lol: :P

Jester
05-13-2009, 01:58 PM
I've got a bad feeling about this?

Better your Star Wars Nerd?

Peanut
05-13-2009, 02:16 PM
I've got a bad feeling about this?

Better your Star Wars Nerd?

"This isn't the thread you're looking for." would have been better.

TheCanadiandrome
05-13-2009, 11:03 PM
man dude, you're just too funny. or too sarcastic, one or the other

Jester
05-13-2009, 11:08 PM
"This isn't the thread you're looking for." would have been better.
Touche'

Um...."Shut off all the trash compactors on the Movie/TV Forum"??

TheCanadiandrome
05-13-2009, 11:47 PM
"we're going to blow up the Technodrome with our planet blower-upper gun"

classic twist on Family Guy Blue Harvest

"we're going to test out our weapon on your home world of Technodrome forums"

Buslady
05-25-2009, 07:26 PM
All it was was entertaining but not great. It was a lot of muscle flexing and bellowing. Not much story.

Hordak
08-19-2009, 01:00 AM
This movie hits DVD in September. I liked it but had some complaints. Hugh Jackman is a great actor & love him as Wolverine. I just wasn't satisfied with some of the other characters looks.