Last week's TMNT ratings are down.

[One Radical Dude]

http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69683

For the last ratings report for the third episode (I think), it was in the 3.X range, I believe. This week (for "Meet Casey Jones"), it only got a 2.5. :tsad:

[Donatelloz]

man comparetivley their sucking!

[The Stryker]

its all this yu-gi-oh crap thats going on now

kids are so afraid that they're gonna miss one second of huge hair that they sit through the now crappy "Static shock"

and thats my take on it!

[One Radical Dude]

its all this yu-gi-oh crap thats going on now

kids are so afraid that they're gonna miss one second of huge hair that they sit through the now crappy "Static shock"

and thats my take on it!

What the heck is "Static Shock"? I've heard very little about that show.

[Apple Cat]

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[Nturtle]

hmmm... well the ratings are bound to vary a bit, who knows they might go back up again this week?

[Mikey the Party Turtle]

its all this yu-gi-oh crap thats going on now

kids are so afraid that they're gonna miss one second of huge hair that they sit through the now crappy "Static shock"

and thats my take on it!

What the heck is "Static Shock"? I've heard very little about that show.

It's a cartoon that's based on a comic where a kid is affected by thie weird purple goop, and gets electrical powers. He surfs around on a manhole cover by using his powers. That's pretty much it. :lol:

[Apple Cat]

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[Eye of Sarnath]

Well, that sounds stupid. Hopefully the ratings will go back up. It might take a while though, cause the show is new. Not completely unexpected.

[Mikey the Party Turtle]

It's a cartoon that's based on a comic where a kid is affected by thie weird purple goop, and gets electrical powers. He surfs around on a manhole cover by using his powers. That's pretty much it. :lol: I don't like "Static Shock"...

Me neither, I'm just recalling the one episode I saw. :lol: (Only show I'll watch on Kids WB is either Jackie Chan or X-Men Evolution.)

[One Radical Dude]

Well, that sounds stupid. Hopefully the ratings will go back up. It might take a while though, cause the show is new. Not completely unexpected.

You're probably right. I wanted to bring it up, though. This kind of news, however, is definitely not encouraging. We'll have to see how the next week's rating report turns out.

[GK Punk]

But when you really look at it, it's ratings arn't that bad. That's a pretty average rating for a saturday morning it seems.

[One Radical Dude]

But when you really look at it, it's ratings arn't that bad. That's a pretty average rating for a saturday morning it seems.

I guess you are right about that.

[Raven]

That sucks because turtles are the best thing out there
DDDAAAMN yu-gi-oh
The turtles could ninja kick is ass any day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CoolWhip]

Even if the ratings drop, will they show the whole season anyway? or would they stop it mid way through? I would hope not.

BTW, I tried to watch Static Shock a few times, but I couldn't get into it. It sucks.

[Caliosidhe]

Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but it looks like TMNT is the best thing The Fox Box has going for it right now?

[One Radical Dude]

Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but it looks like TMNT is the best thing The Fox Box has going for it right now?

I forgot about that, that's true. But that other new show (which I don't watch at all) isn't very far behind. I hope I don't see ratings in the 1.X range for TMNT.

[Machias Banshee]

Well, you also gotta remember...this bit with Casey was Completely broken away from the Mouser bit. I'm sure once they bring that back up, it'll back in the 3s again... :D

[ninjapizza]

I don't think too many kids are watching Static Shock either. I heard it was cancelled. I actually caught some of it during the commercials between TMNT just because the Justice League was making an appearance. It's not a horrible show, but its nothing at all compared to TMNT.

[Aztec General]

I'm very scared by those numbers. Shows with good buzz tend to start out fairly hot. The ones that succeed STAY hot. The one's that do not fizzle quickly. This decrease in numbers means the show has LOST/Failed to capture viewers. This is never a good thing. This show definetely has the fan boy approval but I just hope it gets at least a decent percentage of the child audience.

One good sign is that it is still the best on the Fox Box. Which means that Fox will almost certainly bring it back next season and so on.

Another thing to consider is that NOTHING on the Fox Box has good ratings. So it's not just the TMNT that have to prove something to the kids it's the Fox Box as a whole. Hopefully the kids will come around. What doesn't help is that the rest of the shows on the Fox Box suck!

Well I hope last week was just a fluke and the show returns to the middle 3s, which is respectable and by far the highest on the Fox Box. I want the show to be popular and do well but I don't want a repeat of the first show's popularity.

Spread the word my friends. Tell all of your comic/sci-fi/fantasy/action loving friends to watch.

[XERO]

Don't worry guys. The show will NOT get cancelled!

I mean, it's the NINJA TURTLES for cryin' out loud! 8)

[ravenx]

Ha!, :lol: you guy are funny Static Shock is the best show on Sat am the ratings don't lie.. Number 1 again for sixth weeks in a row. Its no fluke Static Shock has a very strong following and heres the suprising part it don't even have a toyline to help sell the show!!!! :lol: Like other hype shows* cough * TMNT* cough .. Face it!! Fan boys turtles best years were in the late 80s-90s... Let the flaming began!!! :lol:

[Sparvid]

Err, how do you read those ratings? :-?

[One Radical Dude]

Ha!, :lol: you guy are funny Static Shock is the best show on Sat am the ratings don't lie.. Number 1 again for sixth weeks in a row. Its no fluke Static Shock has a very strong following and heres the suprising part it don't even have a toyline to help sell the show!!!! :lol: Like other hype shows* cough * TMNT* cough .. Face it!! Fan boys turtles best years were in the late 80s-90s... Let the flaming began!!! :lol:

Good grief....not this kind of post.

Sparvid: The 2.5 represents the number of households (I think that's in the millions). I don't know what the 9 next to it means, though.

[GK Punk]

Good grief....not this kind of post.

Sparvid: The 2.5 represents the number of households (I think that's in the millions). I don't know what the 9 next to it means, though.

Just remember, the more you ignore trolls the less they talk

[ravenx]

Geez, can't guy have a opinion around here with out being called a name :goofygri: Hey, i Like tmnt but it just not cool as they use to be or maybe i just out grow them... anyway "Static Shock" isn't the only show that kicking the turtles shells if i read the report correctly it getting beat by re-run of "The Proud Family". :-? and this is not a good thing :o please no more name calling!!! thanks..

[Eye of Sarnath]

If you've outgrown the TMNT, then why are you here?

[Reznorite420]

I find it very amusing when people say they've "outgrown" the TMNT when in fact it didn't start out as that stupid kid's show of the 90s.

All I can say about them is that they remind me too much of the "popular" type who aren't into anything underground or good. Yeah, you heard me right; if it's mainstream, it sucks. It's only there to satisfy the dupes of the world who wouldn't know good stuff if it bit them on the rear!

[Karpo_007]

I disageree, TMNT has worked on mainstream too. First movie was great, and so is the new show. I consider them mainstream. Also the first seasons of the old cartoon were good.

[The Stryker]

and remember....bad ratings doesn't mean the show will be cancelled!

four words:Power Rangers and Pokemon :lol:

[Karpo_007]

Are they really that bad? How much does popular cartoons get?

[Reznorite420]

How DARE you say TMNT is mainstream! 99% of the people I know are the mainstream type, and they hate TMNT. The music they listen to is "manufactured", meaning the person who sings it didn't write any of it at all yet gets more attention and money than those who are truly artisitic and come up with their own stuff that sounds 4000000000 times better than this pop stuff. The TV shows they watch are just as brainless, nothing but sitcoms full of one-liners that frankly make no sense and are full of laugh tracks to let the idiots know when to laugh....

Stopping there.

[Karpo_007]

To me Mainstream means something that is advertaised alot and is something everyone knows. Like TMNT was back in the 90's. And the movie was very popular too. I guess you ment something diffrent by it...

[Mikey the Party Turtle]

and remember....bad ratings doesn't mean the show will be cancelled!

four words:Power Rangers and Pokemon :lol:

Actually, the funny things is, Pokemon is entering like it's fourth or fifth year as a show. :| It must be doing good to be on for that long.

On the whole ratings thing:
Everyone I know is watching it! 2.5 million households IMO is pretty damn good.

[Karpo_007]

Well I don't know other cartoon ratings, So I don't know what to compare to. But It can't be that bad.

[Apple Cat]

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[PWDESAI]

How DARE you say TMNT is mainstream! 99% of the people I know are the mainstream type, and they hate TMNT. The music they listen to is "manufactured", meaning the person who sings it didn't write any of it at all yet gets more attention and money than those who are truly artisitic and come up with their own stuff that sounds 4000000000 times better than this pop stuff. The TV shows they watch are just as brainless, nothing but sitcoms full of one-liners that frankly make no sense and are full of laugh tracks to let the idiots know when to laugh....

Stopping there.

I believe we're talking about a kids cartoon show, not music. :roll:

[PWDESAI]

BTW Nickolodeon and Disney shows will get higher ratings because they are on 5 days a week or more. Tmnt is only on saturdays, and is fairly new as well.

[Blades]

I must admit, I'm disappointed with the lower rating, but to be honest, it doesn't surprise me either. One of the main reasons some shows become popular is if they are on before and/or after an already popular show. (It's worked for many successful shows in the past, I believe Seinfeld and Friends are good examples). People are more willing to sit through a show before so they can see the one they really like.

The problem is that the Fox Box is not supplying shows for all kinds of tastes. The shows are all rather bland, or just, well.....stupid. *thinks about Ultimate Muscle, Kirby, and Fighting Foodons* :sweatdro: TMNT is ALL I watch on FoxBox now, while in the past I spent much of my morning sitting in my PJ's so I wouldn't miss any of the shows.

TMNT alone can't save the FoxBox, and if the Box goes out, so do the Turtles.... :(

[Raphael-sama]

*hides Kirby plushie, sticks strangling hands in pockets, whistles to himself*

[Aztec General]

TMNT alone can't save the FoxBox, and if the Box goes out, so do the Turtles.... :(

That's what I'm afraid of. If you compare the TMNT to the other shows on the FoxBox it is THE best, both content and rating wise. The problem is that very few people are watching the FoxBox in general. The WB's lineup is very strong right now.

[Karpo_007]

Can you give some "popular" cartoon's ratings for comparison?

[One Radical Dude]

Low ratings, I believe, is what caused the Fox Kids lineup to die. I certain hope this doesn't happen to FoxBox. The WB network and ABC Kids dominated the ratings last week. Of course, so did Nickelodeon. Jimmy Neutron got a 5.6 (I believe that's the number of household in the millions that watched the show.) The other number (the 19), I'm not sure what that is. So, last week at the 10:30 am slot, this is how it stacks up.

Static Shock (5.9/20) - WB
Jimmy Neutron (5.6/19) - Nickelodeon
The Proud Family (3.8/13) - ABC Network
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2.5/9) - Fox Box
House of Mouse (2.1/7) - Disney
Spider-man (0.5/2) - ABC Family

There may have been a few other shows that were an hour or more long, but they got lower ratings in the 1.X or lower.

[Karpo_007]

Considering that TMNT has been on the air for 5 weeks, thats not too bad. And it is the most popular on Fox box. And I doubt they will be shutting it down. And If they won't, the future of the cartoon looks good.

[tekcop]

You do know what the turtle's biggest problem is right now don't you?

It's on at the same time as Static Shock.

[Aztec General]

You do know what the turtle's biggest problem is right now don't you?

It's on at the same time as Static Shock.

I have to agree. Although I think Static Shock is terribly stupid, it is quite popular right now. I think it would be best for FoxBox to have the TMNT on at 10 or 11 for a while to build up an audience, then have it go head to head with SS. TMNT is the "flagship" of the FoxBox but it doesn't have enough steam to take on SS head to head yet. Although that's not to say that Static Shock is a better show, because it surely is not. In fact I think TMNT is one of the, if not THE best, action cartoon(s) on tv in a long time.

[One Radical Dude]

You do know what the turtle's biggest problem is right now don't you?

It's on at the same time as Static Shock.

I have to agree. Although I think Static Shock is terribly stupid, it is quite popular right now. I think it would be best for FoxBox to have the TMNT on at 10 or 11 for a while to build up an audience, then have it go head to head with SS. TMNT is the "flagship" of the FoxBox but it doesn't have enough steam to take on SS head to head yet. Although that's not to say that Static Shock is a better show, because it surely is not. In fact I think TMNT is one of the, if not THE best, action cartoon(s) on tv in a long time.

Unfortunately, I don't think going to 10:00 or 11:00 is going to help TMNT at all. Do it at 10, and the show will have to deal with Pokémon (from the WB) with a 5.1 rating last week, Lizzie McGuire (ABC) had a 4.5, and Family Oddparents (from Nickelodeon) with a 6.0. Going to 11 may make very little difference. Yu-Gi-Oh! (WB) had a 5.1, Kim Possible (ABC) had a 3.3, and Rocket Power (Nick) had a 5.0.

[Blades]

*sigh* So basically, the shows damned if it moves, and damned if it doesn't. :ohwell: What is the cartoon world coming to, when a guy riding a manhole cover gets an audience....?? :|

[azure turtle]

You do know what the turtle's biggest problem is right now don't you?

It's on at the same time as Static Shock.
Hmm... Are the ratings for Static Shock always that high? I bet that the ratings are especially high for the past two Saturdays, since Static Shock was having a crossover with Cartoon Network's Justice League.

[ZigFB]

Actually, I think that the best route for the show would have been to join the other 80's remakes and went on Toonami. I mean, come on, whou WOULDN'T want to sit through HeMan (with the original voice of Leo as HeMan), TMNT, and then Transformers, even though Transformers Armada is basicly Pokemon. Personally, I'm hoping that Cartoon Network will make the bid to DonWoo/Mirage and get the show the hell off the FoxBox and into a decent time slot where the show will have a chance to grow and thrive. See, the thing is that people are stuck remembering the old show and are of course going to believe anything with the TMNT name on it will be kiddy and crap, which the new show really isn't. Ladies and Gentlemen, let us not kid ourselves any further. This show was made for US. This was to appease the fans growing up who read the comics and was disgruntled with the cartoon because it was NOTHING like the comics. The personalities were even tampered. This show was made for the fans, but put in the 10:30/9:30 timeslot to try to appeal to the younger audience. How many of you began squeeling when it came on with "My name is Leonardo. We took a wrong turn and are now cornered in a trash strewn ally, backs against the wall, by the toughest street gang around"? I mean, I was literally bouncing in my chair. I even got a call from a friend, yelling "MOUSERS!!!" when the little steel contraptions showed up on her tv screen. I believe that the fox box is a test of our loyalty to the Turtles, as was Next Mutation... Oh, and does anyone have a copy of Power Rangers in Space where the TMNT showed up and beat the crap out of them? Anyway, later.

[Karpo_007]

Well it is still number one show on Foxbox, and I doubt they will be closing that any time soon. Thats why the future of TMNT looks good, even if it loses to pokemon in ratings.

[Eye of Sarnath]

As long as I have my Ninja Turtles, I could care less how well it's doing ratings-wise. But unfortunatley, ratings DO matter...

[Karpo_007]

Yes they do, and right now it's number one show on Foxbox. So nothing to worry about.

[Eye of Sarnath]

They wouldn't drop their best show... :thyper:

[Donatello]

people are resistant to change the watch static shock not because they think it's betterr, but thet don't realize tmnt is on.

oh, duz anyone know if x-men evolution is cancelled?

[Karpo_007]

They wouldn't drop their best show... :thyper:

Excatly. Only problem would be if they would shut down FoxBox, but that doesn't seem likely.

[tekcop]

oh, duz anyone know if x-men evolution is cancelled?
Yes, it has been renewed for a fourth season.

Also, X-Men Evolution reruns will be appearing on Cartoon Network.

[Eye of Sarnath]

They won't shut FoxBox down, they'll just try to get new shows to replace the stinkers.

Is it just me, or are these cool? -> :thyper:

[ZigFB]

Actually, some networks are stupid enough to get rid of their best shows and/or shows with large, LARGE fanbases if they feel that, by some strange cosmic twist of fate, it would best serve the network's reputation to no longer have the show in their line up. TMNT, no matter how much they don't want it anymore, have a certain reputation. The cartoon in the later years began a serious downhill decline, getting rid of many fans. In fact, most aren't even aware of the fact that the show ran from 1985-1995, with Next Mutation coming about in 97. All I'm trying to say is don't get your hopes up. But, Peter Laird has confirmed, on several occasions, that the new show will not be canceled until the prearranged 26 episode story arc is complete. So relax, grab a videotape, a slice of choco-puff pizza (cocoa pebbles work better, trust me), and sit back for the ride.

[Aztec General]

Ladies and Gentlemen, let us not kid ourselves any further. This show was made for US. This was to appease the fans growing up who read the comics and was disgruntled with the cartoon because it was NOTHING like the comics. The personalities were even tampered. This show was made for the fans, but put in the 10:30/9:30 timeslot to try to appeal to the younger audience. How many of you began squeeling when it came on with "My name is Leonardo. We took a wrong turn and are now cornered in a trash strewn ally, backs against the wall, by the toughest street gang around"? I mean, I was literally bouncing in my chair. I even got a call from a friend, yelling "MOUSERS!!!" when the little steel contraptions showed up on her tv screen.

No doubt about it. This is a FAN BOY/GIRL show! This is the show for Mirage comic loyalists who were dying for so long to see their favorite comic book characters portrayed accurately (besides the first movie). It is also important to note that this show is not just a TMNT Fanboy show, it is a Fanboy show in general. The show has been on for 5 weeks and they've already made numerous references to other comic books, made fun of the old show, and have inserted numerous "smart" jokes.

Have I mentioned how much I love this show?

[Sparvid]

:-?

I thought it was a kids show (for kids, that is) that simply tried to stay as close as possible to the original characters and concepts..?

[Karpo_007]

No, it's a cartoon for TMNT fans that is suitable for kids. If you want to see a show wich is made simply kids in mind, watch pokemon.

[Donatello]

The cartoon in the later years began a serious downhill decline, getting rid of many fans. In fact, most aren't even aware of the fact that the show ran from 1985-1995, .


1987-1996, but you were close

[Donatello]

No, it's a cartoon for TMNT fans that is suitable for kids. If you want to see a show wich is made simply kids in mind, watch pokemon.


hahaha damned pikachu

karpo's right it is a show which can be enjoyed by every age, it's just denounced as a kids show cuz it's on saturday mornig

[Aztec General]

No, it's a cartoon for TMNT fans that is suitable for kids. If you want to see a show wich is made simply kids in mind, watch pokemon.

karpo's right it is a show which can be enjoyed by every age, it's just denounced as a kids show cuz it's on saturday mornig

Yup, you're both right.

[Donatello]

yeah imagine if fox were to rerun the episode in a prime-time slot, wb did it for batman beyond's pilot. tthe show would be taken so much more seriously and we wouldn't have to hear about yet another fox reality series

[ZigFB]

yeah imagine if fox were to rerun the episode in a prime-time slot, wb did it for batman beyond's pilot. tthe show would be taken so much more seriously and we wouldn't have to hear about yet another fox reality series

Actually, we'd probably get "Who Wants to Marry A Ninja Turtle?" or something like that...

[azure turtle]

Actually, we'd probably get "Who Wants to Marry A Ninja Turtle?" or something like that...
Heh... I know a few rabid fangirls on this forum who'd love to be participants in a show like that. :embarass:

[GK Punk]

Actually, we'd probably get "Who Wants to Marry A Ninja Turtle?" or something like that...
Heh... I know a few rabid fangirls on this forum who'd love to be participants in a show like that. :embarass:

Dude, Kali and Shadow would be all up on Raph's junk :lol:

[Blades]

Actually, we'd probably get "Who Wants to Marry A Ninja Turtle?" or something like that...
Heh... I know a few rabid fangirls on this forum who'd love to be participants in a show like that. :embarass:

Dude, Kali and Shadow would be all up on Raph's junk :lol:

Heh, not if I get there first..... :evilgrin:

[Kali]

LOL! Man, that'd be worse than an episode of Springer!

Bring it on! :evilgrin: :lol:

[ZigFB]

Holy crap... FEMALE Rapheal fans... I must be dreaming... Every girl I know liked Don... Course, they also thought Billy from Power Rangers was a 'sexy hunk of man geek.' but still, I find this rather intrigueing and wish to study this further, but I must get prepare to tape the next ep of TMNT...

[azure turtle]

LOL!! I believe this forum has the biggest group of Raph fangirls. :lol:

[Jephael]

That's actually a refreshing change of pace from the Mike/Don fans on Mikey's forum.

Too bad there aren't more Renet fanboys like me! :tsmile:

[GK Punk]

LOL!! I believe this forum has the biggest group of Raph fangirls. :lol:

*nods, I believe Azure to be the most correct person on this board... RAPH FANGIRLS RUN RAMPANT HERE!!! :lol:

[ZigFB]

::looks around:: Intrigueing.... Where are the Leo fangirls?

[Sparvid]

*points at TMNTGal* ;)

[Stefano]

Im a leo fan. I just love the way his muscular body moves as he pulls his sword from the sheath. I love the way he talks when hes giving out orders. ooo i just melt.

Im sorry about that. Im a guy and i was kind of making fun of the raph fangirls. But i shouldnt talk i have the hotts for april. but at least she's human....

[ZigFB]

*laughing* You should have heard the rants on Don that I've heard... and believe me, the tangents that people could get on about Leo/Raph... *shudder* People scare me...