View Full Version : Majora's Mask Out On Virtual Console
Cipher
05-18-2009, 10:04 PM
After years of vaguely interested waiting, it's here.
Get it. Play it. Drop acid to it. Discuss the greatest Zelda game ever.
Brodie
05-18-2009, 10:10 PM
Greatest ever?
You mean sequel to the greatest Zelda game?
Cipher
05-18-2009, 10:22 PM
Greatest ever?
You mean sequel to the greatest Zelda game?Maybe if you really hate side-quests or art or something.
Sequel to the most influential Zelda game? Sure, I'll give you that.
But there's a fair contingent of fans who place Wind Waker and Majora's Mask above it. I'm with them.
MrPliggins
05-18-2009, 10:33 PM
I just downloaded it tonight. It's the first time I've ever played it. I really enjoyed it, but I ran out of time pretty quickly. So far, it's a little bit different than most Zelda games I'm used to..but I can tell it's gonna be good.
Cipher
05-18-2009, 10:36 PM
I just downloaded it tonight. It's the first time I've ever played it. I really enjoyed it, but I ran out of time pretty quickly. So far, it's a little bit different than most Zelda games I'm used to..but I can tell it's gonna be good.Play the Song of Inverted Time (the Song of Time backwards) at the beginning of each session and I garuntee you'll never need to worry about the time system again.
This game is kinda garbage, but it's cool that they put it on VC, I guess.
The moon looks teh scary.
ThirdMarioBro
05-19-2009, 02:53 AM
Majora is awesome. It's different, but awesome. Glad I've still got my cart.
Mecha Cow
05-19-2009, 09:48 AM
This game is kinda garbage
Explain yourself, sir!
Leo656
05-19-2009, 10:28 AM
I loved it back in the day. I think I only finished it once, but I love all the Zelda games. I'm always interested in seeing what they do different each time, and I think this one really stands out. It's probably the most unique of the series.
Explain yourself, sir!
Time constraint, not enough dungeons, stupid masks, annoying side-quests...
The only thing sweet about that game was the moon. Sh*t be scary, dude.
There, I've explained!
Cipher
05-19-2009, 11:41 AM
There, I've explained!...Why your opinion on entertainment should never be trusted?
But seriously(!), I respect your stance!
Well, it is an opinion for a reason. It did receive good reviews when it came out, though, so...I dunno. Guess it just wasn't for me.
Voltron
05-19-2009, 01:14 PM
I've had it with your politically safe, tension de-escalating rhetoric, Ai! The game was ass and you know it! Everyone knows it! Everyone!
We need some decent **** on the VC! Like Superman 64.
We need some Quest 64 on that so I can feel like my entire life has been wasted.
Ninjinister
05-19-2009, 01:26 PM
Y'know what? I hate all of the 3D Zelda games. Loathe them with a passion (well, except for Twilight Princess, since I haven't played it). So Ai not liking one of them isn't so bad.
Voltron
05-19-2009, 01:28 PM
We need some Quest 64 on that so I can feel like my entire life has been wasted.
That game was like eating a pile of fiery ****. Not only was it bad, it was damn near impossible to beat some of those bosses.
Y'know what? I hate all of the 3D Zelda games. Loathe them with a passion (well, except for Twilight Princess, since I haven't played it). So Ai not liking one of them isn't so bad.
You know what? I don't like Streets Of Rage anymore.
How DARE you?! :P
Peanut
05-19-2009, 06:35 PM
Majora is alright. What it did was fill the world with a lot of little details. Sure, the time constraints and lack of dungeons were a bit weird, but OoT did the series by the books, so a little variation never hurt.
I like The Wind Waker better, though...by...like infinity, but I'll take MM over the sh*t that is Twilight Princess any day.
So, what's your beef with the Twilight, may I ask?
I thought everything about Twilight was good except for the wolf parts. That made the gameplay come to a SCREECHING halt for me.
Yeah. It's just that I've played that game so many times that I've gotten accustomed to it.
But I agree that Wind Waker was much more fun. That and the music was ten times better.
Peanut
05-19-2009, 07:09 PM
So, what's your beef with the Twilight, may I ask?
Pretty much everything. It should be noted that I played it on the Wii, so the sh*t sword swinging controls were a huge factor. Other than that, everything you do with the wolf is terrible. Collecting the stupid tears or whatever the hell they were was awful. The overworld was also completely devoid of life. Once I got the different warps, I rarely rode Epona anywhere at all. There was seriously nothing to do ANYWHERE. I just didn't enjoy myself for the majority of the game, especially considering how much I loved tWW.
However, the final battle with Ganondorf was fantastic. Even better than the battle in tWW. Also, the credits music was great.
Pretty much everything. It should be noted that I played it on the Wii, so the sh*t sword swinging controls were a huge factor. Other than that, everything you do with the wolf is terrible. Collecting the stupid tears or whatever the hell they were was awful. The overworld was also completely devoid of life. Once I got the different warps, I rarely rode Epona anywhere at all. There was seriously nothing to do ANYWHERE. I just didn't enjoy myself for the majority of the game, especially considering how much I loved tWW.
However, the final battle with Ganondorf was fantastic. Even better than the battle in tWW. Also, the credits music was great.
Sorry your experience with it was abysmal.
It's funny how the game is so devoid of life, given the amount of VAST TEXT in the friggin' game. :P
But yeah, the Ganondorf battle definitely was awesome. And the way he died was GANGSTA.:lol:
However, the final battle with Ganondorf was fantastic. Even better than the battle in tWW. Also, the credits music was great.
I think all the boss battles were the best part of Twilight Princess.
But yeah, Majora's Mask was weird and I hated the lack of dungeons, but I still really liked it. I should pick it up.
Although Wind Waker had like one more dungeon and it was, like Peanut said, infinitely better.
My personal top 2 favorite boss battles in Twilight Princess were against Stallord and Argorok.
Cipher
05-19-2009, 08:23 PM
So, what's your beef with the Twilight, may I ask?I'll answer for him.
No character depth. Bland scenery. A vast but empty overworld (as opposed to the ocean in Wind Waker, which houses tons and tons of secrets). Largely useless items. Absurdly easy combat. Ridiculously, mind-blowingly easy bosses. Time-padding. Those doggy-tear-fetch-quests. Forgetable music. No side-quests. As a symptom of its problems, you can never tell when a chest will contain an orange Rupee or a Heart Piece, and that's something which should never happen in a Zelda game.
The last half-hour of that game was alright, and Malo was cool, but ugh. Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask and The Wind Waker are games I have beaten multiple times and continue to replay. I struggled to force myself to finish Twilight Princess once, and I can't see myself coming back to it in the near future.
--EDIT
Didn't see the second page here. Well, he actually did answer with a nearly idential response. Yeah, TP was a decent video-game, but a crap Zelda game and about eight steps backward from WW.
I also think I might have enjoyed it more without the Wii controls though.
I think all the boss battles were the best part of Twilight Princess.Why? I'm not trying to be snide, it's an honest question.
I just can't get into boss battles where I have no chance of dying. Even by the end of the game, I don't think Ganon was taking off full hearts, and every single fight revolved around "dodge attack, use new item." That's typical of Zelda, but it was at its worst here.
Majora's Mask really put the final word on Zelda bosses for me. The battle/race against Goht is one of the most fun boss-fights I've ever done. At the same time, bosses like Gyorg and Majora's Mask (without the Fierce Diety Mask) can rip you apart in seconds.
Peanut
05-19-2009, 08:30 PM
^^ I like you.
Cipher
05-19-2009, 08:36 PM
^^ I like you.Word. It's always nice to find someone who doesn't buy the whole "Twilight Princess is gud cuz it loooks like real (??) lifez!" bit.
Well, the farthest I ever got in MM was to Goht, so I wouldn't know the later boss experiences.
Definitely agree about the Boss Battles in Twilight being easy as hell. But when you like to show off to other people (like myself), the last thing you wanna do is get your ass beat. :P
At this rate, I'd probably wouldn't even make it to Majora's Mask, though.
EDIT: Just saw Cipher's quote.
Word. It's always nice to find someone who doesn't buy the whole "Twilight Princess is gud cuz it loooks like real (??) lifez!" bit.
Not everybody thinks that. I just happen to like it more than you guys do. Maybe I was blinded by the hype, but I still think it's a awesome Zelda game. Of course, Wind Waker pwned the crap out of it when it comes to the gameplay. That, we can all agree on.
Why? I'm not trying to be snide, it's an honest question.
I don't really care if they were easy, they were just really fun. Even the sub bosses were fun.
Word. It's always nice to find someone who doesn't buy the whole "Twilight Princess is gud cuz it loooks like real (??) lifez!" bit.
I don't feel like that's the reason why people like it. If someone thinks it's fun, then that's really all the reason you need to like it. At least that's how it was for me.
Cipher
05-19-2009, 08:46 PM
I don't feel like that's the reason why people like it. If someone thinks it's fun, then that's really all the reason you need to like it. At least that's how it was for me.That's legit. It's just that enough people do fit that description as to be frustrating.
http://www.zeldawiki.org/images/4/47/Moon.png
"If no one... mentions the awesomeness... that is... Majora's Mask...
I... I shall consume. Consume... Consume everything.
raphael_is_cool
05-20-2009, 03:35 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/ace_on_bass/Random%20Stuff/mightybooshmoon.jpg
When you are the moon, there is a person people say is the sun. I saw the sun once...
and he came past me really fast. And it was an...it was called...the...an eclipse.
And he came fast! But as he came past, I...I licked his back. And he doesn't know I licked his back! All in his yellow suit!
...I'm the moon.
Cipher
05-20-2009, 02:44 PM
"If no one... mentions the awesomeness... that is... Majora's Mask...
I... I shall consume. Consume... Consume everything.Alright. That part is awesomely creepy. After the entire game threatening you with the falling moon, all of a sudden it becomes sentient and starts devouring things. It's also the point at which the game goes from "weird" to "batsh*t insane" for its final act. Brilliant use of soundtrack too. I love the Skull Kid's theme.
The finale on the moon is one of the best final acts in any game I've played. Mask children? Awesome. Mazes? Awesome. Majora's Mask f*cking moon-walking over you while laughing like a baby? Awesomely disturbing.
The only thing about that part that isn't awesome is the Goron maze. The first time I played the game I had to fight Majora without the Fierce Diety Mask (which is nearly impossible). I actually had every mask but couldn't beat that stupid Goron track.
I wonder how the plot would be if they made a sequel.
Majora's Fanny Pack? :P
Voltron
05-20-2009, 10:31 PM
Pretty much everything. It should be noted that I played it on the Wii, so the sh*t sword swinging controls were a huge factor. Other than that, everything you do with the wolf is terrible. Collecting the stupid tears or whatever the hell they were was awful. The overworld was also completely devoid of life. Once I got the different warps, I rarely rode Epona anywhere at all. There was seriously nothing to do ANYWHERE. I just didn't enjoy myself for the majority of the game, especially considering how much I loved tWW.
However, the final battle with Ganondorf was fantastic. Even better than the battle in tWW. Also, the credits music was great.
I agree. Half the reason I play Zelda is because it has that intricate integration of quirky townspeople and what not. It seemed like the entire land was depopulated except for Moblins. ****ing moblins. Wind Waker, once I stopped being a bitch and accepted the cutesy art, was bad ass.
It might be just me, but the Hidden Skills Link learns in Twilight Princess, Link in Wind Waker already can do with the A button counterattacks.
Talk about a bitch slap. :lol:
Lordmylar06
07-08-2009, 07:33 PM
My favorite of the series was the SNES Link to the Past. While I enjoyed TP and Oot, I have to agree with many here and say they looked pretty but left me wanting more in challenge and innovation. I also want more of a sandbox feel to the Zelda series, a free roamer. The current TP feeling is that of a bottleneck map series. I think the technology is there to do better, why stick in the last era of gaming. Let me walk throught the woods instead of making them the invisible boundary.
Peanut
07-08-2009, 07:37 PM
Because it's on the Wii.
Lordmylar06
07-08-2009, 07:45 PM
Because it's on the Wii.
Very good point. Hopefully Nintendo's R&D is working on something on par with the rest for their next operating system. I could enjoy the hell out of something in depth. I mean WW seemed so open ended, you could sail ANYWHERE on the map to all those islands. Surely this can be obtained again.
Cipher
07-08-2009, 08:54 PM
I also want more of a sandbox feel to the Zelda series, a free roamer. The current TP feeling is that of a bottleneck map series. I think the technology is there to do better, why stick in the last era of gaming. Let me walk throught the woods instead of making them the invisible boundary.I think the closest the series has gotten to that is The Wind Waker. It's gigantic, and if you can see it, you can go there. That's one of my favorite aspects of that game.
Mecha Cow
07-09-2009, 08:30 AM
TP's overworld really suffered from being split up into sections. I'm not sure it was done for technical purposes (seems like the Gamecube should be able to handle that), but in any case it made the world feel even smaller and more constrained than it already was.
ThirdMarioBro
07-09-2009, 02:36 PM
Yeah, I'm hoping the next Zelda will have stream the overworld from the disc rather than load in chunks.
Is it wrong for me to imagine a Zelda game with God of War detailing?
Peanut
07-09-2009, 04:41 PM
Is it wrong for me to imagine a Zelda game with God of War detailing?
Uh...what? In what way? Because honestly, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Well, I just meant in the fact that God of War is one of the most beautiful titles on the PS2.
Not saying that Twilight Princess wasn't, though. It's just after playing those games, I figured the next Zelda game they make would pick up on that kind of detail. I mean, those games blew me away.
Dr. Doom
07-09-2009, 05:46 PM
I recall coming across some ivy-covered ruins with a treasure chest in Fable 2 at some point and thinking to myself how awesome it would be to see a Zelda game with proper current gen graphics.
Brodie
07-09-2009, 06:33 PM
Too bad Fable 2 looks like complete garbage.
Peanut
07-09-2009, 06:50 PM
Well, I just meant in the fact that God of War is one of the most beautiful titles on the PS2.
Not saying that Twilight Princess wasn't, though. It's just after playing those games, I figured the next Zelda game they make would pick up on that kind of detail. I mean, those games blew me away.
I get you. I guess it's just because I've played so many games that visually blow God of War out of the water that I didn't exactly get what you were saying. As good as both of those games still look, they're outdated by today's standards.
Too bad Fable 2 looks like complete garbage.
Seriously. Fable 2 is ugly as hell.
I get you. I guess it's just because I've played so many games that visually blow God of War out of the water that I didn't exactly get what you were saying. As good as both of those games still look, they're outdated by today's standards.
Damn, seriously? What am I missing out on?
Peanut
07-09-2009, 07:11 PM
Damn, seriously? What am I missing out on?
Everything good on the 360 and PS3? rofl
Everything good on the 360 and PS3? rofl
Yeah, pretty much. :lol:
But just wait until GOWIII is released. It's gonna get it's title back.
Peanut
07-09-2009, 08:14 PM
Well...it never really had that title to begin with. God of War has always been really good looking, but I don't think it's ever been the most visual impressive title available at any point.
Well...it never really had that title to begin with. God of War has always been really good looking, but I don't think it's ever been the most visual impressive title available at any point.
Hmm...
Well, out of all the games I played, the God of War series impressed me the most. That's a bold statement saying that it 'never had the title'.
But, I guess I gotta believe you.
Peanut
07-10-2009, 09:05 AM
Well, out of all the games I played, the God of War series impressed me the most. That's a bold statement saying that it 'never had the title'.
It isn't a bold statement, though, because it simply never was. On the PS2, yes. Both God of War games were at the height of technical prowess when they were released on the PS2.
But you have to realize that by the time God of War was released in, I THINK, February or March of 2005, Resident Evil 4 had recently been released on the Gamecube, and mind-blowing games like Shadow of the Colossus would be released later in the year on the PS2, not to mention the 360 itself late in 05', which brought with it Kameo.
When God of War II came out, we were already a couple years into the next-gen, so there was simply no way it could compete with already released titles like Gears of War, or soon to be released titles like BioShock, or even the "Rule 63" of Kratos with Heavenly Sword.
Again, not saying the God of War games aren't impressive, especially the second one, which did a lot of really amazing things with scale on the PS2, but they've never been the big graphical power house.
Yeah, I got you, man. I just haven't had the chances to try out those games yet, which makes me think very highly of the GOW franchise. I thought the graphics could get no better than that.
And I bet when I do get the chances to play them, they'll already be surpassed by the NEXT killer apps.
Awesomely creepy, if ya ask me. :P
Dr. Doom
07-10-2009, 06:35 PM
There are definitely ugly things about Fable 2 (like just about all the people for example) but at the same time the Knothole Island content features one of the most beautiful scenes that I can recall seeing in a video game. I think it was at the end of the ice temple or whatever it was, where you step outside and there's a giant full moon overhead and snowflakes floating around everywhere. I must have stared at that for like 10 minutes, and I think I came back to it later. And the fact that the idea was implanted into my head remains the same; a Zelda game with top end graphics would be such an amazing thing to see.
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