Any Sonic fans here?

[Extreme_Enigma]

Just wondering.

My favorite is Shadow.

[Deathknight]

I really like the Genesis Sonic games but after that I really didn't care for them. Sonic Adventure just didn't do it for me like the old games. Was always a big Tails fan because he could fly :)

[ThirdMarioBro]

Just wondering.

My favorite is Shadow.

Die in a fire.

[愛]

Is this a troll thread, or...?

[XERO]

Well, it definitely has potential.

[GK Punk]

This thread needs more Mio

[XERO]

Sonic himself needs more Mio.

[Dark 5cythe]

Die in a fire.


I hope your joking because thats kind of a dick thing to say to someone.

Im a casual sonic fan. the old Genesis games were fun even if they were horribly repetitive. I played Sonic Adventure 2 on Gamecube when it came out. I enjoyed it, but that was the extent of my Sonic game experience.

His games were just never as good as the main mario games. and Poor sonics game quality keeps dropping. When will sega learn?

[愛]

I got everyone covered.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/TheFatedBattle/0275d302b87407a856a7ccf4ea1dc90c.jpg

[GK Punk]

Haha I used to use that as my desktop image.

[XERO]

I hope your joking because thats kind of a dick thing to say to someone.

I think he is.

Now feel better about it.:P

Ugh... Just had a horrible thought: A live action Sonic movie.:cry:

[Dark 5cythe]

Live action sonic? It cant be worse than the last sonic game where he makes out with a HUMAN girl.

[poiuytre]

I'd raise my hand with pride, but I'm afraid it would prevent me to run for public office later in life going by how people tend to react to Sonic fandom. What we need is a secret handshake or something.

[Candy Kappa]

I played Sonic Adventure 2 on Gamecube

Sadly it's the only good Sonic 3d game, and my neighbor's kids ruined it:(
I was one freakin' record away to get the old school stage

[Newton Gimmick]

The first two Sonic games are so awesome it's insane.

Sonic & Knuckles is okay, but after that they just lost all kinds of steam and I bailed out.

I do enjoy Sonic Rush though from time to time on the ol' DS.

[Ra]

I... I'm confused. Talking about Sonic and be seen as a furry... or post pictures of cute anime girls and look like a pedo lesbian?

Decisions, decisions...

[Dark 5cythe]

I... I'm confused. Talking about Sonic and be seen as a furry... or post pictures of cute anime girls and look like a pedo lesbian?

Decisions, decisions...

At least a pedo lesbian is a human fetish lol.

Furry.....the bane of the interweb.

[GK Punk]

I like this new guy. He's got spunk.

[Dr. Doom]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/Siith/Random/Picture2.png

[Mecha Cow]

Stop ruining this thread, guys. We need more Sonic fans to post in here and expose themselves so that I can add each and every one of them to my hit ignore list.

[Dark 5cythe]

Stop ruining this thread, guys. We need more Sonic fans to post in here and expose themselves so that I can add each and every one of them to my hit ignore list.

LMAO post of the day man!

[Ninjinister]

Furry.....the bane of the interweb.

lmao, if you think they're bad...

Let's just say my job unfortunately takes me into the darkest cesspools of the internet.

One cannot begin to fathom the kind of sick $#!+ the intarwebs hold.

[Hannah]

Sadly it's the only good Sonic 3d game, and my neighbor's kids ruined it:(
I was one freakin' record away to get the old school stage
Are you kidding? Sonic Adventure 2 is the "only good Sonic 3D game"? Did you ever play the first one?


HORRIBLE PICTURE
I hate you. :cry:

[Voltron]

I loved sonic on the Genesis. Fast paced and challenging. Then they started having a story beyond "The world is in danger, go right really fast."

[XERO]

I loved sonic on the Genesis. Fast paced and challenging. Then they started having a story beyond "The world is in danger, go right really fast."

Yeah, then it became 'The world is in danger, pick up crap, MAYBE go right really fast.'

[Peanut]

I don't even know where to begin, so I won't.

[Madmangamer364]

I don't even know where to begin, so I won't.
Well, if you don't mind, I think I will. :P

I remember such a time where a question such as the theme of this thread would have probably never existed. That's just how high the level of popularity was for Sonic. Man, it's hard to believe the 16-bit era was THAT long ago, though. As for myself, I want to be a Sonic fan still, but I'm not that willing to accept the majority of what the series is about right now. With the exception of a game here or there (lately, the Sonic Rush series), it's hard for to have much to be happen about concerning Sonic.

While it doesn't seem to be all that popular these days, I thought with Sonic Heroes, Sega was finally heading in the right direction with its 3D games. Then, enter Shadow The Hedgehog. I can't say I've looked forward to a 3D game since. I wish Sega would take a cue from Capcom and give Sonic the throwback game that Mega Man 9 was able to do for its blue clad hero. If nothing else, maybe Sonic Team can still prove that it actually knows how to put a great Sonic game together, and I think that may also help with the 3D games.

But yeah... longer rant short, I really do wish that I could trust Sonic games these days, but Sega insists on making me cringe with almost every new Sonic game instead. :| Oh well, I still have Sonic Mega Collection whenever I need a retro fix. :P

[ThirdMarioBro]

Does it matter that Shadow the Hedgehog was the first "Sonic" game released after Sega was bought by Sammy? Yeah. Its called Focus Group Video Games. Sega died in 2005.

[XERO]

Shadow uses guns and rides motorcycles.

...

Wheel of Morality, turn, turn turn
Tell us the lesson that we should learn!

[Mecha Cow]

Let's not pretend the series went to sh*t with Shadow. It went to sh*t long before that, when it started taking itself seriously and added obnoxious stories and layers of baditude. Shadow was just the inevitable culmination of that. Now we just wait for Were-Shadow.

[Prowler]

Let's not pretend the series went to sh*t with Shadow. It went to sh*t long before that, when it started taking itself seriously and added obnoxious stories and layers of baditude. Shadow was just the inevitable culmination of that. Now we just wait for Were-Shadow.
Yeah, the series deteriorated after Sonic 3D was released.

Sonic 1, 2 and 3 were great(never played Sonic CD or Sonic Adventure), the rest... meh.

[Cropsy]

Big fan of Sonic since i was 11 in 1992 when i got the Genesis and loved the cartoon since i was 12.

[Leo656]

Big Sonic fan, but more the shows and comics these days. Haven't played any of his new games since Sonic Heroes; I heard the Advance games were ok, but I'unno.

[GK Punk]

I heard the Advance games were ok.

They were so-so. I think I liked them more than the 3D games just because they felt a bit more old school.

[Leo656]

I've heard a lotta that, yeah.

I liked SA and Heroes for trying some new ideas, but execution coulda been better by far.

[Brodie]

the Sonic levels in Unleashed are fantastic.....the Werehog stuff is....uh...well....yeah.

[Leo656]

It looked pretty weird. Definitely seems like they're just throwing stuff out there.

Sonic needs a strong caretaker the way Mario and Zelda have had Miyamoto, MGS had Kojima, etc. Nobody cares enough by now for that to happen, but if it'd always been that way we might've been spared some of the lesser games.

[XERO]

I still gotta give Sonic a chance to get back on track. They just need the proper motivation to make a awesome game.

BTW... did anybody ever play Sonic and the Black Knight? Nobody ever talks about that game, and I can probably guess why not.

[Candy Kappa]

Are you kidding? Sonic Adventure 2 is the "only good Sonic 3D game"? Did you ever play the first one?

okay you win, that one too:P

[Leo656]

I still gotta give Sonic a chance to get back on track. They just need the proper motivation to make a awesome game.

BTW... did anybody ever play Sonic and the Black Knight? Nobody ever talks about that game, and I can probably guess why not.

Yeah, I remember reading about it, and then... hm.

Probably a sign about its quality that it's never mentioned, eh?

[XERO]

Yeah, I remember reading about it, and then... hm.

Probably a sign about its quality that it's never mentioned, eh?

Could be, or they're just in denial. :P

[Brodie]

I heard it was one of the worst Sonic games thus far. Where other sonic games give you some semblence of speed, this one requires you to stop......a lot....and fight....a lot....

[XERO]

What the hell...?

When did Sonic start a MMA career? Last I checked, that's why they made Knuckles.

[Samhain]

Loved the game when it first came out. 2 is the best. The music is awesome too.

[saiyan_monkey]

The original Sonic was the only one I ever really got into. I never really played the others until I got my son the Sonic Mega Collection for PS2.

[strawberryfields]

I hope your joking because thats kind of a dick thing to say to someone.

Im a casual sonic fan. the old Genesis games were fun even if they were horribly repetitive. I played Sonic Adventure 2 on Gamecube when it came out. I enjoyed it, but that was the extent of my Sonic game experience.

His games were just never as good as the main mario games. and Poor sonics game quality keeps dropping. When will sega learn?

your really lame.




I loved everything before 2003 but my favorite sonic game of all time was sonic blast for the game gear.

[ThirdMarioBro]

your really lame.




I loved everything before 2003 but my favorite sonic game of all time was sonic blast for the game gear.

You were doing well until you said Sonic Blast. Henceforth, nothing else you say can possibly qualify as relevant. Cheerio sir.

[GK Punk]

Oh yeah, I was going to mention...

The other day me and a friend of mine were checking out the Sonic Genesis Collection on 360, and he mentioned to me that he had never been able to beat, or ever seen anyone complete Sonic 1.

For the first time since I was a kid, I tore through that game, and got every last chaos emerald and finished the game with out using a single continue. I was pretty proud of myself. I don't think even as a kid I was able to not use at least one continue.

[XERO]

Oh yeah, I was going to mention...

The other day me and a friend of mine were checking out the Sonic Genesis Collection on 360, and he mentioned to me that he had never been able to beat, or ever seen anyone complete Sonic 1.

For the first time since I was a kid, I tore through that game, and got every last chaos emerald and finished the game with out using a single continue. I was pretty proud of myself. I don't think even as a kid I was able to not use at least one continue.

Kickass, GK.

I remember how b*tchy that game could be, especially the final part in Labyrinth Zone Act 3. I always had trouble trying to keep up with Robotnik. But when I learned much later that you didn't have to kill him, I slapped myself and finally got through it.

[Peanut]

Am I the only one who just got way too bored to beat a Sonic game? I play until I hit a level where you have to slow down and start trying to judge Sonic's sh*tty jumps, then I usually quit.

[XERO]

Am I the only one who just got way too bored to beat a Sonic game? I play until I hit a level where you have to slow down and start trying to judge Sonic's sh*tty jumps, then I usually quit.

Heh, you pretty much described the Labyrinth Zone, because that's exactly what I did.

You think Sonic's jumps can be sh*tty, try playing Sonic 2 with Knuckles.

[ThirdMarioBro]

They all had their flaws, but Sonic 3 & Knuckles was pretty much perfection.

In other news, Yoshihisa Hashimoto (director of Sonic Unleashed) ditched and went to Square-Enix. That was pretty much the only semi-talented man left in Sonic Team. Now maybe Sega will do the right thing and farm Sonic out to third parties.

......yeah right. lol Glad I don't care anymore. Should be funnier to see how much worse they can get.

[XERO]

Alas, poor Sonic.

They should just have him in the next game going berserk and killing everyone in sight, call it Sonic FU.

At least he'd go out in style.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Meh. Honestly, after Shadow the Hedgehog, that doesn't seem so far fetched. I miss Sega.

[XERO]

Yeah, I know. Me, too.

*hums the Sonic 3 Competition Menu theme*

[Prowler]

It's really sad to see Sonic becoming more of a joke every year. His "death" is one of the sadest things in video games history.

[ThirdMarioBro]

True, but I had to let it go. It just bothered me too much. Things will never get better as long as SegaSammy keeps making money, and their little tween furry fanbase will make sure of that.

[Leo656]

Actually in the middle of Sonic The Hedgehog for 360 (aka Sonic Adventure 3, from what I've played of it). It's ok... about the same as the last few but with a worse camera. I'unno who they expect to play these, though... kids, ostensibly, since all the old-school fans except me seem to have moved on, but the aggravating repetition and ridiculous load times would send any child I know into fits. It's weird... a lotta the same annoying stuff from the original games is in there (spike balls outta nowhere, enemies that "hit" you when you're not quite touching them, blind superspeed jumps that toss you into oblivion), but back in the Genesis days it was forgiveable. Makes me wonder if it's someone's idea of a sick joke of an homage, keep everything about Sonic that ever pissed anyone off but add a camera you can barely control. I like that they're still trying new things, though... Silver's kinda fun, haven't played as Shadow yet. Just wish you could aim Silver's TK throw a LOT better....

Picked up Sonic Unleashed, too, since they were cheap. No idea when I'll get around to it.

[Ninjinister]

Unleashed is actually the one considered SA3, but I get your point.

[Spike Spiegel]

I like Sonic as a character, and I think the supposed atmosphere of the universe he inhabits is pretty damn cool (even though I thought "Sonic X" was a rather childish series). I don't go for the games, but he will always be one of the most interesting characters/ideas I've ever come across.

Even so, most of the recent games I've played starring him don't really do him justice. I prefer the ones I played in my childhood on the Genesis, etc. The last decent one I remember was on the Dreamcast...

And I actually thought Sonic Riders was going to be great, but it really sucked.:cry::cry::cry:

[ThirdMarioBro]

Sonic Riders was such a waste in so many ways -- worst, because Sega used the F-Zero GX engine on that abortion. Tragic. The textures were PS1 quality.

[Samhain]

Sonic on the 360 blows! I was so excited about it, spent $60 and got home only to find the controls were horrible. Game is very pretty tho.

[Peanut]

Which Sonic game? Just Sonic the Hedgehog or Sonic Unleashed? Where do you live that either game is still $60? Sonic Next-Gen is $10 everywhere, and it's even going to be up on the 360 for download in about a week for $19.99.

[愛]

I thought Sonic was over and done with. Like, forever.

[Brodie]

But you're a retard who only pays attention to your asian girlfriend, Jackie Chan.

Of course you wouldn't know anything.

[愛]

Sounds like jealousy, my good friend. <3

[Brodie]

You win this round, buddy.

[oldmanwinters]

I've never stopped playing that old 16-bit goodness! Oh, and the Sonic Adventure games for Dreamcast continue to keep me happy.

I also collected Sonic Archie comics without fail up until about issue 52. I have noticed that series is notoriously hard to track down in comic stores. Anyone else have that experience?

[XERO]

As I sit here typing this, watching my neices and nephews play through the 2-player mode of Sonic Adventure 2 Battle, I can't help but smile.

Even if they do fall off the cliffs every time.

[Cipher]

So...does anyone else hold the opinion that Sonic Heroes would've been a good game (and the last good 3D Sonic game) if they had just removed the damn robot fights?

[XERO]

Yeah, they dragged on a bit too much, especially the Egg Albatross.

[Cipher]

Yeah, they dragged on a bit too much, especially the Egg Albatross.I'm not even talking about the bosses. Just the normal enemies. Here you have huge levels filled with speed and genuinely good platforming ruined by a cluster of robots with huge life-bars. What the hell?

[XERO]

Oh, my bad.

You're right on that, though. I miss the one hit jumps, too.

[ThirdMarioBro]

So...does anyone else hold the opinion that Sonic Heroes would've been a good game (and the last good 3D Sonic game) if they had just removed the damn robot fights?

Yeah, I can agree with that. It was flawed, but at least they actually tried. It was just good to see Sonic/Tails/Knuckles together bouncing around a giant pinball table.

People forget, Sonic's original design wasn't based on speed. It was based on the concept of a living pinball. The new Sega doesn't understand this, and probably never will get past the stereotype of "SONIC GOES REALLY FAST!".

[Peanut]

So...does anyone else hold the opinion that Sonic Heroes would've been a good game (and the last good 3D Sonic game) if they had just removed the damn robot fights?

No. Everything about that game was completely f*cking mediocre, and if it wasn't mediocre it was downright awful. It's nothing but a test in tedium and boredom in every single way.

People forget, Sonic's original design wasn't based on speed. It was based on the concept of a living pinball. The new Sega doesn't understand this, and probably never will get past the stereotype of "SONIC GOES REALLY FAST!".

Because Sonic does go really fast, it's the only thing he's good at. The appeal of Sonic has nothing to do with bouncing around out of control. If Sonic was all about being a "living pinball" then why the f*ck does everyone seem to hate Spinball?

I don't know why anyone even attempts to making arguments for Sonic anymore. The 2D games were simple. They involved light platforming with floaty jumps, and a ridiculous sense of speed that made you feel like you were reacting to things in the environment really fast, when you had almost no input at all, in general, you had very little control over Sonic in a lot of cases. When you try and transition that simplified gameplay to 3D, it utterly shatters, because Sonic simply doesn't work when you have so much control over him. That's why the Sonic levels in Unleashed worked, and that's why the 2D games have continued to work.

And I hate when people try and make excuses like "Sonic is about more than going fast." when that simply isn't true. The worst parts in all Sonic games are the parts where you have to stop and attempt a jump with the sh*tty jumping mechanics, or you have to keep messing around underwater where you can't even run. And at this point, Sonic hasn't aged well. I can sit kids down in front a Super Nintendo and let them play Super Mario World and they'll still have a blast. You give them Sonic and you'll get two levels in before the boredom sinks in and they start crying to play something else. I always think it's telling when you can't get a person who never grew up with something to sit down and watch/play it.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Well, yeah. There's no arguing that Super Mario World is the greatest thing since BBQ Baked Pizza. Sonic is really only worth a laugh now, so on that note...

Here's a series of five flash movies from Newgrounds. Its essentially a ripoff of Robot Chicken done Sonic style. Bear in mind, you're only going to get some of the jokes if you're a Sonic fan, but most of them don't go beyond the realm of casual knowledge. I lol'd until it hurt.

Volume 1:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/427405

Volume 2:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/436074

Volume 3:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/441881

Volume 4:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/452173

Volume 5:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/484130

[XERO]

Sadly, TMB, I'm still trying to get the joke in your sig. :P

[GK Punk]

Yeah I've been wondering that too

[Ninjinister]

The only thing I can figure is that Sally was made by Americans and the others had their origins in Japan. If that isn't it... I've got nothing.

[ThirdMarioBro]

True, but they know because of the boobs. :P

Actually, I took it from those flash movies.

[XERO]

Yeah, that was what I was thinking, too. I just didn't want to flat out say it. :P

Can you say Sonic XXX?

[jalexbrown]

I remember the old Sonic games being awesome, but I also seem to remember the quality of the games deteriorating at a pretty quick pace. Sometime after Sonic 3, the slope got steeper. I think they might have hit rock bottom, and from what I understand Sonic Unleashed might have been a slight step up. Of course, when you hit the bottom, there's only one direction to go: up.

[XERO]

Of course, when you hit the bottom, there's only one direction to go: up.

There's also left or right, but I digress.

[TurtleGuy]

If anyone cares:

http://kotaku.com/5355153/sonic-returns-in-new-2d-hd-game

And a little teaser trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jUNYBBFv8A

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://www.needlemouse.com/

Teaser site.

[Turo602]

It's been weird lately for me because I had a thing for Zelda a couple of months ago, then I was all about Resident Evil, and now it's Sonic and I've stuck with it.

Well the main reason I'm making a thread of our beloved Blue Blur is because of Project NeedleMouse that is set to come out this year. And not just that, you could talk about your favorite Sonic Title, Theme, Character, the Sonic games you own, and much more.

And for more Needlemouse news if you don't know about it already click on the link below

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/106/1061465p1.html

And if any of you don't like that the new game will only feature Sonic feel free to speak.

[Cure]

Search function. (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=27517)

[Turo602]

Fu*k did not see that. It's like my threads are always doomed.

[XERO]

Ah, don't worry about it.

Sonic's been doomed since 2004. :P

[Leo656]

I'm actually probably one of the biggest Sonic fans on here, I'm just not very vocal about it. I still like Sonic... but I agree that what I've played of his games since Sonic Adventure hasn't been great.

If it were up to me, if they HAVE to have extraneous characters in any Sonic games they could at least use ones from the comics who are established, rather than making up more and more pointless and unmemorable ones to bog things down with.

Still, it's more the gameplay than the cast that's been the problem. I'm more generous than some when it comes to 3D Sonic games, but the damn camera is just unforgiveable sometimes. I had fun with Sonic Heroes, but Sonic Adventure was the last one I really enjoyed with few complaints.

[Turo602]

Same here, except for one thing the only characters that should stay are Knuckles, Shadow, Tails, Silver, and Amy. Everyone else can go to hell.

And I actually own all of Sonic's main games and have seen every cartoon.

[Brodie]

Same here, except for one thing the only other characters that should stay are Knuckles, & Tails. Everyone else can go to hell.


Fixed, pal.


This game could be interesting.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Still, it's more the gameplay than the cast that's been the problem. I'm more generous than some when it comes to 3D Sonic games, but the damn camera is just unforgiveable sometimes. I had fun with Sonic Heroes, but Sonic Adventure was the last one I really enjoyed with few complaints.

Same here. Technically, I know Sonic Adventure was also a royal mess, but it at least felt, played, and behaved like a Sonic game. It felt amazing at the time. Even though SA2 was technically polished and far more refined than its predecessor, the game lacked Sonic stages and was also drowning in emo overtones (Shadow: burn in hell). Heroes I think was the last time we saw an actual attempt at a real Sonic game. It was a mess, but at least it tried.

Nothing since has even tried. I'll hold out a prayer for Needlemouse, but at this point Sega is going to have to show something concrete before I care. This coming from a guy who once worshiped and adored the character of Sonic.

[Turo602]

I never lost hope in Sonic and I think Needlemouse won't fail. After all the game is only going to focus on Sonic and that is it and a old badguy Crabmeat is back and it will be 2D.

But for some reason I see Sega screwing this up just like Unleashed with the Werehog.

[Koi]

I don't remember what game it was but.. it is pretty old. It yelled out SEEEEEGGGGAAAA! in the beginning had a catchy tune that went something like "Got to keep it going' Sonic Boom, Sonic Boom" whatever Sonic game that one was, is my favorite. Had loads of fun levels, you could basically just run forward and jump threw out the entire game. Quite fun and entertaining.

[Ninjinister]

old badguy Crabmeat is back and it will be 2D.



That's Shellcracker, from Sonic 2 and Sonic Pocket Adventure.

[oldmanwinters]

That's Shellcracker, from Sonic 2 and Sonic Pocket Adventure.

Hey, that's right! For some reason my brain just assumed "Crabmeat," but it is indeed the dreaded Sonic 2 nemesis from the Metropolis Zone! Grr....:tgrumble: [hated that guy, knocking my rings away]

[Renae De Liz]

I LOVE Sonic!!! :D I've been a huge fan since Sonic 2, though Sonic CD is still my favorite. I am not sure what to think about the newer games, they play so awkward. I'd love to see a new and really well done 2-D game.

I'm still a big fan of the old cartoons and comics, so hopefully some of those characters will come into the games too. :)

[Koi]

I'm still a big fan of the old cartoons and comics, so hopefully some of those characters will come into the games too. :)

Didn't you draw for the comics?

[Turo602]

That's Shellcracker, from Sonic 2 and Sonic Pocket Adventure.

Wait that's true because Crabmeat has no Spikes in his claws.

[Renae De Liz]

Didn't you draw for the comics?

Yeah, I did one full issue and a short story so far. I was a HUGE fan when I was a kid, so it was so neat getting a chance to be apart of something I loved so much. But man, Sonic is TOUGH to draw!! :o Definitely one of the toughest characters to illustrate out there.

[Koi]

Yeah, I did one full issue and a short story so far. I was a HUGE fan when I was a kid, so it was amazing getting to be apart of something I loved so much as an adult. But man, Sonic is TOUGH to draw!! :o Not to mention he's changed so much over the years!

You kinda remind me of my brother, he was a fan of Marvel for a long time and then drew for them.

Sonic has changed over the years a lot. Kinda badly. I have always like that short chubby Sonic to todays long pizza shaped one.

[Renae De Liz]

You kinda remind me of my brother, he was a fan of Marvel for a long time and then drew for them.

Sonic has changed over the years a lot. Kinda badly. I have always like that short chubby Sonic to todays long pizza shaped one.

I know!! I really dislike the long legs, huge hands and long spines ( they're called spines right??) He feels all googly and not 'fast' at all. It looks like they might be slowly going back to a more original look though.

And so awesome your brother got to work for Marvel!! That is almost all comic artists' dream. What is his name is I can ask? I'd love to see his work! :)

[Koi]

I know!! I really dislike the long legs, huge hands and long spines ( they're called spines right??) He feels all googly and not 'fast' at all. It looks like they might be slowly going back to a more original look though.

And so awesome your brother got to work for Marvel!! That is almost all comic artists' dream. What is his name is I can ask? I'd love to see his work! :)

http://zsoulless.deviantart.com/ thats his DA, he hasn't touched the thing in years but it has some of his decent artwork in it. He is now doing mega corporation sculpturing though. So he he can be a at home guy. Heres a sculpt I was watching him make one day, http://www.the-waaagh.com/forums/?showtopic=43878

I hope they get back to the original look with Sonic.

[Ninjinister]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/segaamerica/4309916425/sizes/o/

Motobug confirmed in Needlemouse.

Last time we revealed a Badnik that was originally in Sonic 2; this time, we’re going back even further – say hello to an old enemy you should recognize from the original Green Hill Zone!

http://blogs.sega.com/usa/2010/01/27/project-needlemouse-community-challenge-2-new-concept-art-and-a-very-special-reward/

[Anarchistguy]

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/sonicthehedgehog4episode1/news.html?sid=6249445&tag=topslot;img;1&mode=previews

[ThirdMarioBro]

Feelings are mixed so far. That snippet was too short to gauge gameplay. I guess I'll have to wait until GDC or something to see a full stage. The level design needs to reflect the branching paths and white knuckle platforming of the original games. Speed is the reward for skill, not the cop-out to make for a sweet trailer. No problem with the homing attack though. It feels like a natural progression of abilities from the original games (Super Peel Out, Spin dash, auto shield, homing attack). Makes sense. I just hope they don't get lazy and dependent on it and cripple the level design.

So there's a Wii version. Again, mixed feelings. I'm glad the Wii base will get to play it, but I'm saddened that the visuals will have to take a hit for the sake of cross-platform consistantcy. Then again, its supposed to be Sonic 4. The less "realistic" the better. I'll need to hear the music before judging as well. This is Sonic, and the original trilogy has a rich musical legacy to uphold. No Crush 40 metal sh1t.

The visual world (what little I saw) looks like the beautiful and lush checker patterned abstract Sonic of the past I've been missing for generations now, yet I am disappointed that the character models remain unchanged. I hate the modern designs, but then again I say the same thing about Mario's stale bubbly character models. Eventually I just had to accept the fact that these characters have been "Mickey Mouse-ed" into static forms that will never again alter. Guess I was expecting too much from the industry ramifications of Epic Mickey's oh-so-welcome character reboot. It was GREAT to see the return of the original logo though.

I guess I'm just too cynical at this point. Regardless of the things to come though; one thing is for certain. They called it Sonic 4. That's HUGE both for me, and the befuddled 16-bit generation at large. More importantly, it also puts Sega's ass on the burner. Knowing this, I've only got three words for Sega...

Don't. Fu*k. Up.

*edit*


BTW, if you couldn't tell by my rampant skepticism....for the first time in a long time, I'm VERY ****ING HAPPY!

Mega Man went back, Mario went back, and now finally that poor battered bastard Sonic looks to be going back. Good feelings all around.

[The Deadman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSocVXNffIM

The announcement of a new Sonic the Hedgehog game is always news, but with the upcoming Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode 1, the folks at Sega are taking a novel approach by marrying old-school Sonic gameplay and new-school delivery. Sonic 4 will be a 2D game with 3D visuals for the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and Wii and will be distributed as a downloadable game upon its release this summer. To learn more about what to expect from the game, we spoke with Sega associate brand manager Ken Balough.

GameSpot: Why did you choose to go with a title like Sonic 4? Does this mean this is a direct sequel to the Genesis games?

Ken Balough: I think one aspect to keep in mind is this game is truly a labor of love. A lot of us grew up on the Sega Genesis console; in fact, I remember vividly the first day I got mine with Revenge of Shinobi and Moonwalker. Ever since Sonic & Knuckles, Sonic the Hedgehog 4 has been a game classic Sega fans have always wanted to see. It was the right people, at the right time, getting together and finally making this game we've all wanted to see.
While the game is a brand-new adventure, it will definitely pick up after Sonic & Knuckles. However, what you are looking at is the beginning of a new story arc.

GS: The subtitle is Episode 1. Does this mean it's episodic content?

KB: As mentioned, I think the best way to view it is as a first part in a much larger adventure. When Sega released Sonic 3, ultimately it was the part 1 of a story that saw its conclusion in Sonic & Knuckles. In that same spirit, Sonic the Hedgehog 4 is a bigger story, and this is that first chapter. I think it's also safe to say that by the end of the episode one, fans will be very excited to see what's in store for episode two!

GS: Why did you decide to make this a downloadable title?

KB: In recent years, we've seen a huge surge of classic game properties making a return in this arena. [Downloadable] games offer players a chance to play terrific games without breaking the bank. It's also a promise to Sonic fans. We're going to deliver a Genesis-era Sonic game as if it were created today that goes to the core of what classic Sonic fans desire. This means [the fan] gets to judge us on our work each step of the way, and we plan on delivering that goal in a big way.

GS: In terms of graphics, the game appears to use 3D graphics. Why take that route instead of an HD makeover or a more traditional approach like Capcom's recent Mega Man games?

KB: One of our goals was to make a gorgeous-looking 2D Sonic game. This approach allows fans new and old to see what a 2D Genesis-style game would look like today with modern graphics.

GS: As far as gameplay goes, should we expect classic old-school Sonic 2D mechanics or something new added into the mix?

KB: All the Sonic favorites [are] here for sure! Spin dash, power sneakers, etc. But you will also see the homing attack added, and in true Sonic fashion, you can compete with your friends for the fastest level times through leaderboards.

GS: What can we expect from the music? Will it sound like the old Sonic games?

KB: It will sound like an evolution from the original series. Expect to hear very familiar tempos and styles of music that resonates with 16-bit games but also has a modern appeal.

GS: Will there be any differences between the different versions? That is, will the Wii have motion control, or will the PS3 and 360 run at 1080p?

KB: For all intents and purposes, the games are designed to be identical. There are a few differences per what each console can output visually: Wii will be at 480p, while the XBLA and PSN versions will run at 1080p. However, for certain areas of the game, the Wii will be able to use motion control, and the PS3 will be able to use the Sixaxis.

GS: Is this where the Sonic franchise is moving, or can we still expect to see console and portable titles?

KB: Sonic as a brand is definitely not moving away from our packaged console versions. Making Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode I for download is just a new way to offer a great Sonic experience through a different medium.

GS: Thanks for your time, Ken.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/projectneedlemouse/news.html?sid=6249445&tag=topslot;title;1&mode=previews

[Ninjinister]

So it's a proper entry to the original series, albeit in episodic content. That's reason enough to pique my interest. Strangely, this seems to be the first in the series proper to my knowledge where specific Badniks return. I haven't memorized the placement of every foe in every game, but I believe repeated use of any enemies in a traditional Sonic platformer only occurred in spinoffs like Pocket Adventure. I'm not complaining though... just noticing a potential deviation from the norm. Sega must be doing it for "t3h nostalgia".

This is Sonic, and the original trilogy has a rich musical legacy to uphold. No Crush 40 metal sh1t.


Although I so agree as a sequel to the classic series, the music needs to return to roots, I love Crush 40 and they have their place. The only song of theirs I hate is the Sonic Heroes theme.

Regardless, there's not enough evidence yet for me to go into giddy fanboy mode. I'll wait until something much more solid comes across the table before I start anticipating this any more than I do now.

[The Deadman]

im looking forward to it, i mean it cant be worse than Sonic and the Secret Rings....can it?

[poiuytre]

Excited, tho a little underwhelmed by how it moves. Ever since I've played Smash Brothers Brawl recently, the bar of how Sonic should be animated has been raised significantly. :ohwell: Still... TWO DIMENSIONAL CONSOLE SONIC SQUEEEE!

[ThirdMarioBro]

There's no guarantee that this won't suck, but I'm at least thankful and excited that Sega is actually trying to make the effort.

[Turo602]

yyyyyyyyyeeeeeeesssssssssssss!!!!!

[The Stryker]

Sigh.

http://pics.fort90.com/forum/sonic_cycle.jpg

[Leo656]

I'm gonna get it.

[Turo602]

I'm sssooooooo going to get this too.

[The Deadman]

Sigh.

http://pics.fort90.com/forum/sonic_cycle.jpg

i saw the same pic when they released Sonic and the Black Knight

[Brodie]

Because it was true then, too.

[The Deadman]

it had the same gameplay as Secret Rings, i didnt get it

[Brodie]

No. In Secret rings, Sonic ran (albiet on rails)...In Black knight, there was no sense of speed, because the ****er would stop constantly for Sonic to fight. He spent more time fighting than moving his legs.

So: BAD.

[Shredder]

I agree that this is a step in the right direction if Sega is going continue making Sonic games. I haven't played any of the newer Sonic games since the Adventure games and Heroes, but nothing I've heard about any of the newer games has made me want to play them.

I'm looking forward to getting more info on the new game, but hope the gameplay is more like the original Sonic games (1-3 and S&K) than any of those GameBoy and DS games. For some reason, those handheld 2-D Sonic games were definitely missing the "feel" of the originals. I hope this is the game that finally breaks the Sonic Cycle, but right now my hope is still tentative...

[ThirdMarioBro]

That "feel" you speak of is the stage design. All of those TERRIBLE Game Boy/DS titles were built like race tracks where you just held down right, save for jumping over the occasional bottomless pit you had to jump over. There was little "platforming". Just a lot of running to the right, hitting auto spring boards and zipping through endless loops. It looks cool, but its boring as hell to play.

The original Sonic titles were always platformers first. Speed was the reward to learning the fastest line through the stage. As you got better at the game, you could run Sonic through the stage is shorter, faster times. You felt good about yourself. Nowadays, Sega is more obsessed with just holding that pace throughout the entire game, which makes for the most boring experience imaginable.

And that right there is exactly what could kill this for me. It bothers me that they didn't really let us see any stage design. If this is a platformer in the design stamp of the old classics (which to be fair is what they're touting here), then great. If its Sonic Rush Retro, then I'm out.

Until then, I'm VERY cautiously optimistic.

[Shredder]

Good info- agreed on all points. Any word on whether any of the original creators are involved in the new project?

That "feel" you speak of is the stage design. All of those TERRIBLE Game Boy/DS titles were built like race tracks where you just held down right, save for jumping over the occasional bottomless pit you had to jump over. There was little "platforming". Just a lot of running to the right, hitting auto spring boards and zipping through endless loops. It looks cool, but its boring as hell to play.

The original Sonic titles were always platformers first. Speed was the reward to learning the fastest line through the stage. As you got better at the game, you could run Sonic through the stage is shorter, faster times. You felt good about yourself. Nowadays, Sega is more obsessed with just holding that pace throughout the entire game, which makes for the most boring experience imaginable.

And that right there is exactly what could kill this for me. It bothers me that they didn't really let us see any stage design. If this is a platformer in the design stamp of the old classics (which to be fair is what they're touting here), then great. If its Sonic Rush Retro, then I'm out.

Until then, I'm VERY cautiously optimistic.

[Ninjinister]

Time to cry emo fanboy tears

http://kotaku.com/5473427/sega-not-developing-sonic-4

[Brodie]

Why would they cry? The pedigree on that company is way better than Sonic Team's resume for the last few years.

[Cure]

Awesome, I loved Sonic Rush.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Figured as much. Looks terrible. The jumping physics are clearly recycled Sonic Rush being shoehorned into a mock old-school environment, and it also looks glitchy. He's standing on a ramp incline in that video, and can't even make it though a basic loop. The music sounds completely unoriginal, and the level design seems to be based on speed ramps (again, ala Sonic Rush).

The only saving grace here is that Dimps (Sonic Advance, and half of Street Fighter IV) is the developer. They've got some cred, but their Sonic games are mostly based on roller coaster design. It should be decent, but its not going to be Sonic the Hedgehog 4. Its going to be Sonic Rush 2 with a casino and checkered hills.

[Cure]

No, I'm pretty sure the name of the game is Sonic the Hedgehog 4, dipsh*t..

[Brodie]

TMB being dissatisfied just sold a copy of the game to me. I'm in.

[Anarchistguy]

I'm in, too. I REALLY don't see what's wrong with this. So Dimps is the developper in this... BOO HOO!!! I actually enjoyed the Sonic Rush games and they made STREET FIGHTER IV. why not Sonic 4 as well?

As for my thoughts, I'll quote this post:

"I don't understand the collective dismissal of Dimps. Ignoring the fact that their developmental capabilities extend beyond speed, what with Advance 1 and all, I'm sure they're still contractually obligated to do whatever Sega says at the end of the day; Thus, Rush probably would've been Rush regardless of who developed it. Now, if Sega's given them the permissions and assets to develop a game in the classic vein, I don't see any reason why we can't trust them to deliver something good, if not great.

I feel as if people are too quick to associate the developer's name with Rush and subsequently speed, and thus are shooting the messenger before he can even step foot in town."

[Brodie]

Dimps' Sonic games are way better than Sega and Sonic teams hedgehog games since Sonic Adventure 2.

TMB is just a drama queen.

[Ninjinister]

Why would they cry? The pedigree on that company is way better than Sonic Team's resume for the last few years.

Hey, I agree. I enjoyed the limited time I spent with Sonic Rush, and I really loved the Advance series.

I just figured that TMB wasn't the only one who would be disappointed by the news.

[Turo602]

What the F**K!!! Sonic is Sega! I still enjoyed the Rush and Advance series but Come on!!!

[The Stryker]

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Such anger, like they didn't expect something weird to be revealed.

[Brodie]

What the F**K!!! Sega is Sonic!

I think....that should be reversed. Sonic is...Sega, I guess. Because they own the property...Sonic does not own Sega...the company.

[Turo602]

I think....that should be reversed. Sonic is...Sega, I guess. Because they own the property...Sonic does not own Sega...the company.

:lol: My mistake knew there was something wrong with that :lol:

[Krang]

Considering what they did with SFIV, Dimps has the potential to (co-)develop great games, so I'm not disappointed by the news at all. I personally found the Sonic Advance and Sonic Rush series to be mediocre and lacking in replay value, but like Brodie said, they were still better than what Sonic Team has had to offer lately. If they can design the levels more like the Genesis games and put some more badniks in there (unlike the mostly empty levels in the Advance and Rush games), I think the game has a decent chance of turning out good.

[XERO]

I'm gonna play it regardless. It's been a while since I played Sonic material anyway.

BTW, Tony Atlas's laugh should be the death jingle in the new game. :P

[ThirdMarioBro]

Dimps is a fine developer, and I'm sure that this game will be decent, but I can't see it being worthy of the title Sonic 4. Sonic Advance 1 was a good game. I enjoyed it, but it wasn't Genesis-era worthy. Sonic Advance 2 was a pile of sh*t. The game was one giant race track. Sonic Advance 3 was better, but still under par. Rush was a frigging roller coaster with the occasional jump and bottomless pit and literally no branching paths, and Rush Adventure was just the same sh*t with a strung out kiddie story.

This is Sonic 4: direct sequel to one of the five greatest platformers ever made. My standards are pretty high here. Dimps is great, and I'm sure they could make a terrific purist Sonic title. That's an established fact. But Dimps (like Anarchistguy said) is subservient to Sega's whims. Sega views this as a retro throwback. They want to make a classic Sonic game from the perspective of a modern Sonic fan, and the modern Sonic fan expects speed at any cost. Already from that leaked video I can see the stages are designed based around speed ramps. That's the same old lack of imagination in stage design we've been fed for a decade now. Maybe things will look better as we move along. I really hope so.

I'm hoping that music is placeholder as well. I remember when Rush was shown at E3, the music included was placeholder and completely different from the finished product. I hope the same applies here, because the stuff they've got is terrible in comparison to the legacy they're trying to extend.

[Cure]

Life is too precious to take everything so seriously, right?

[愛]

Life is too precious to take everything so seriously, right?

You've been here long enough to know the drill around these parts.

[Brodie]

He don't like it if it ain't got Cyndi Lauper.

[Shredder]

I'm going to wait until we get more official videos or info before commenting. When is this game expected to be released?

[ThirdMarioBro]

Summer... July, I think.

[Turo602]

Since this game is in episodes I'm going to wait to see if it gets released in stores like GTA Episodes from Liberty City.

[Brodie]

From GoNintendo:

SEGA released another handful of details for Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode 1.

First up is that despite the Sonic 3 level designer working on the title, the level design of Sonic 4 is inspired by the stages found in Sonic 2. In total there will be four zones each comprised of three acts in Episode 1.

Each zone will have a boss battles. The first boss, which is similar to the Green Hills Zone boss, will have new moves including a full 360 degree rotation of the wrecking ball and a ground pound type move.

Also for those who are interested, Jun Senoue will be the composer for Sonic 4. Senoue worked on a variety of Sonic games including Sonic Adventure.

[Zachatello00]

I just got in the newest game informer that has a write up on Sonic 4. I'm suprised they think they can't sell it for 60 when New Super Mario Bros has been selling out since Xmas.

I do prefer the downloadable idea though.

[Turo602]

Ahhhhh, just found the page in my game informer. I am so geeked, I think this one looks promising.

[The Stryker]

I just got in the newest game informer that has a write up on Sonic 4. I'm suprised they think they can't sell it for 60.

Maybe they realized that it's a Sonic game.

[The Deadman]

they need to release a full game...not this episode ****

[Ninjinister]

Official site for Sonic 4 (http://www.sonicthehedgehog4.com/) has the first stage's music. I kind of like it.

[Brodie]

Does anyone have scans of the Game Informer stuff? I haven't gotten mine in the mail.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I haven't worked up the courage to go listen to that yet.

[Ninjinister]

God, you're such a drama queen.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Whatever.

Listened to it. Sounds terribly generic.

[Cure]

God, you're such a drama queen.

Funny, cuz you're not even the first person to say that to him, haha.

[XERO]

I haven't worked up the courage to go listen to that yet.

Don't be scurred.

Well, for the soon-to-come music, anyway... since you already heard the first one.

[Turo602]

Wait, since this game is released in episodes that probably means that this will be a five parter because every arcade game has up to 200 gamerscore. So within five parts that would be a perfect 1000.

[The Stryker]

No. That's not going to happen.

[Turo602]

How do you know this? Do you know the future? That was just an assumption. And it does make sense, If you think about it, it makes sense.

[The Stryker]

But it doesn't make sense at all. Nobody releases a number of episodes to match up with achievement points.

Also, It's not only on Xbox live.

[Peanut]

How do you know this? Do you know the future? That was just an assumption. And it does make sense, If you think about it, it makes sense.

It doesn't make any sense.

[The Deadman]

its gonna be on the Wii too, and the point total will probably be different

[ThirdMarioBro]

Sonic 4's soundtrack leaked. We know Jun Senoue did it because it features an unused boss track reused from the beta Genesis version of Sonic 3D Blast -- which he happened to compose.

Each individual act has its own song. Some are better than others. I have to say though, its not as bad as I was expecting. Reminds me a lot of the stuff he did for Twinkle Park in Sonic Adventure. Its certainly not near the brilliance of its predecessors, but its not terrible.

You can find the files on the RetroSonic.com forums if Sega hasn't C&D'd their asses yet.

[Turo602]

Yup two Sonic games in one year.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/109/1093038p1.html

Looks like Sega is going to be stealing more of my money.

[Peanut]

Dude, because those Sonic games on the Wii were soooooooooooooooo good.

[Turo602]

Dude, because those Sonic games on the Wii were soooooooooooooooo good.

Nope because I'm a Sonic fan. And I get those games for, or under 20 dollars. I'm not all stupid.:lol:

But for real, I just get those games done and over with.

[ssjup81]

Sorry for bumping this thread, but I didn't want to start another one after finding this in a search. I know it's necrobumping, but it's worth asking here.

Has anyone come across the trailer for the Sonic Generations game that's supposed to be released this year? Any comments, concerns, expectations? I'm looking forward to it...and hope that it does get a release on the Wii. I already know that it's supposed to get released on the XBox 360 and PS3.

[Redeemer]

Nope because I'm a Sonic fan. And I get those games for, or under 20 dollars. I'm not all stupid.:lol:

But for real, I just get those games done and over with.

Turo I am sorry but u are very stupid :lol:

How was Sonic Episode 4???I was thinkn about getting but not sure... I loved the original 3 for sege, is like those at all???

[Turo602]

Turo I am sorry but u are very stupid :lol:

How was Sonic Episode 4???I was thinkn about getting but not sure... I loved the original 3 for sege, is like those at all???

The physics aren't the same as the original but that's not really a bad thing. The game is mostly a throwback to the older games mainly in the boss fights. Sonic 4 has a lot of content and I enjoyed it. If you are a Sonic fan of the original games or at all I say its worth getting.

[AquaParade]

I'm a fan of the character, sure. I grew up watching the first two animated cartoons and reading the Archie-published comics. The games? I haven't been a fan since the first Sonic Adventure, which may not even hold up.
Sonic and Knuckles is my personal favorite.

Sonic really got ****ed in the later days. It's actually pretty sad. What other legendary gaming icons have fallen this far from their glory days?

I still hold hope for another great Sonic game. I did hear good things about "Colors".

[Turo602]

I still hold hope for another great Sonic game. I did hear good things about "Colors".

I believe Sonic can return. After playing Colors and 4:Episode 1, I can tell Sega is trying again. Colors still had its problems but nothing too big or major, just some little things here and there. It was a good fun game the whole way through.

What do you think of Generations so far? It looks great as of now IMO. I'm also excited to hear that Shadow and Knuckles are returning, but not sure if they're playable.

[AquaParade]

I believe Sonic can return. After playing Colors and 4:Episode 1, I can tell Sega is trying again. Colors still had its problems but nothing too big or major, just some little things here and there. It was a good fun game the whole way through.

What do you think of Generations so far? It looks great as of now IMO. I'm also excited to hear that Shadow and Knuckles are returning, but not sure if they're playable.

I've only seen the launch trailer so far. I guess I'd have a better idea of what to expect, if I had played either of the games you listed above. I'll definitely try Colors if I get a chance. And if Generations is received well, I just may try it out, since it'll be the third Sonic game in a while to garner some positive reviews. I'm assuming Generations is multi-platform?

[Peanut]

What do you think of Generations so far? It looks great as of now IMO. I'm also excited to hear that Shadow and Knuckles are returning, but not sure if they're playable.

Why the hell is that good? Shadow is among the top things that makes the franchise as awful as it is now.

Generations certainly has the coolest hook of any Sonic game post Adventure, but I still think the Sonic series has two KEY problems -
1) It cannot and will not work in 3D.
2) The core Sonic experience is dated.

It's been proven over and over that Sonic in 3D is a disaster, so the series can't evolve there. The whole "run super fast through loops" thing was really cool for the first 3 games, but it has only continued to stale over the years. You look at any of the greatest and longest running series in the history of games, the best of them have evolved over time. Sonic tried to evolve, proved that it couldn't and now they've gone back to doing the same thing that was worn out in 1994. Sonic 4: Episode 1 was a decent throwback, but we've played that game time and again for 20 years. They can roll on the feel-good vibes of fuzzy Sonic nostalgia and "Sonic games are decent again!" comments for a little while, but they can't cart that dead horse out multiple times a year and expect everyone to pick up their sticks and start beating it.

[Turo602]

Why the hell is that good? Shadow is among the top things that makes the franchise as awful as it is now.

Generations certainly has the coolest hook of any Sonic game post Adventure, but I still think the Sonic series has two KEY problems -
1) It cannot and will not work in 3D.
2) The core Sonic experience is dated.

It's been proven over and over that Sonic in 3D is a disaster, so the series can't evolve there. The whole "run super fast through loops" thing was really cool for the first 3 games, but it has only continued to stale over the years. You look at any of the greatest and longest running series in the history of games, the best of them have evolved over time. Sonic tried to evolve, proved that it couldn't and now they've gone back to doing the same thing that was worn out in 1994. Sonic 4: Episode 1 was a decent throwback, but we've played that game time and again for 20 years. They can roll on the feel-good vibes of fuzzy Sonic nostalgia and "Sonic games are decent again!" comments for a little while, but they can't cart that dead horse out multiple times a year and expect everyone to pick up their sticks and start beating it.

I agree with you. But I guess I'm just too hopeful because he's a great character and its sad to see him rot. They need to tone Sonic down a bit on the whole speed thing, and keep it more like the Adventure days and improve on that without all the unnecessary playable characters. Sonic games now feel more like he is on rails and just running really fast trough loops and grinding on rails and switching from side to side with the occasional blasting through enemies (Set up like pins at a bowling alley) with homing attacks here and there. What also proves that they can't evolve him is that they keep throwing in those side scrolling elements. It does get pretty stale but I guess I have a soft spot for him. They need to find a way to make him move in a 3D space with good platforming and tone down on the annoying speed thing. Homing attacks could stay but it's time to evolve him and try to make a pure 3D experience that doesn't suck. Sega needs to work on evolving him and not rush like they always do. Get it right then release it instead of sh*tting games out every year.

As for Generations, they yet again prove that he can't evolve by putting in Classic Sonic. But I guess that's what is making me excited for the game. I just don't like how the world looks bigger then Sonic himself. Everything is so massive in the classic world. Oh, and I guess I like Shadow because he's like a dark Sonic, in Adventure 2 he played just like Sonic but he was his opposite and the end of Adventure 2 made me like him more.

[ThirdMarioBro]

It's nice to not care about these things anymore.

[ssjup81]

I can't say much about the games, especially since the last game I played before Sonic Colors and Sonic 4, Episode 1, was Sonic Battle (which I really liked).

The main thing I like about Sonic over the years, despite the games, are the franchise's characters and the darker storylines and tone that the games have gotten over the years. I like the characters of Shadow and Rogue and other "later" characters.

The premises for the later games have always been good to me; I guess it's the games' execution that's not very good, I suppose.

[TheCanadiandrome]

i'd like to try Sonic Colors on Wii and DS, and this Sonic Generations has me intrigued

i'd love for Sega to release a Sonic Dreamcast Collection, featuring all the Sonic Dreamcast games

[AquaParade]

Peanut's assessment was pretty spot on, for me. Although, like Turo, I also love the character, and try and hold out hope that he can fit into another great game someday...But, I don't think buying all the crappy ones along the way, will necessarily get us there. Sonic need's a long break, in my opinion.

I also hate Shadow. Bring back Metal-Sonic!

[deadpoolRKO]

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Looks like Vegata took care of Shadow.

[ssjup81]

i'd like to try Sonic Colors on Wii and DS, and this Sonic Generations has me intrigued

i'd love for Sega to release a Sonic Dreamcast Collection, featuring all the Sonic Dreamcast games

Sonic Colors is really fun, but it still has one thing I do hate about later games of the series. I never liked ratings. I'm the type who likes to just play. I don't want to be rated on it. Sonic Colors has that and seems that most later Sonic games do in general. That's always turned me off from games, because I'm not a competitive person in general. I just like to have fun. That aspect ruins it for me.

As for Sonic Generations, seems it's going to be for the PS3 and 360 only. I don't think it's going to get put out on anything "Nintendo", unless it's on the 3DS (I refuse to buy it) or the upcoming "Wii 2" or whatever the next Nintendo home console will be, but that's all rumor there.

Oh yeah, if I'm not mistaken, in Sonic Generations, they'll have levels from all of the previous Sonic games, which should include the Dreamcast ones.

[Master Splinter]

I never got into the Sonic TV show but I have always enjoyed the original Sonic games on Sega... I still remember the D-Bug code for Sonic 1... Up-C, Down-C, Left-C, Right-C, Hold ABC and press Start... That was always fun... I would turn myself into a coin and just collect myself...

-ms

[ssjup81]

I never got into the Sonic TV show but I have always enjoyed the original Sonic games on Sega... I still remember the D-Bug code for Sonic 1... Up-C, Down-C, Left-C, Right-C, Hold ABC and press Start... That was always fun... I would turn myself into a coin and just collect myself...

-ms

Hm, I always thought it was up down left right A, B, start. Not ABC start.

[XERO]

lolz, Sega and their wannabe Konami Code.

[Jester]

I love Sonic! They make the best drinks and their cheese coneys are the best...


What?

[oldmanwinters]

KV47Il1o-Yo


Looks like Vegata took care of Shadow.

SEGA has been crying foul!
http://blogs.sega.com/usa/2011/05/10/screw-attacks-deathbattle-features-dragonball-z-vs-shadow/

:lol:

[XERO]

I love Sonic! They make the best drinks and their cheese coneys are the best...


What?

Well, Sonic DOES love chili dogs...

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/7200000/Sonic-Chili-Dog-the-old-sonic-7220526-707-563.jpg

[oldmanwinters]

I think the Vegeta Vs. Shadow video was a little too short, considering how long those DBZ battles took, but I think the outcome was fair and realistic. If Shadow had to abide by the rules of the games, I'm pretty sure that's the outcome that would have happened.

But I'm gonna be ticked if Sonic loses to Mario in the next video. Two SEGA losses in a row? I'd attribute that to modern gamer bias in light of Sonic's lame "next-gen" games.

Well, Sonic DOES love chili dogs...


Imma eatin' me a chilli dog right now! I never have tried topping it off with an olive like Sonic does, however.

[The Stryker]

i'd love for Sega to release a Sonic Dreamcast Collection, featuring all the Sonic Dreamcast games

There were only two Sonic games on the dreamcast and one is already on XBLA

Unless you want Sonic Shuffle or some sh*t like that.

[TheCanadiandrome]

As for Sonic Generations, seems it's going to be for the PS3 and 360 only. I don't think it's going to get put out on anything "Nintendo", unless it's on the 3DS (I refuse to buy it) or the upcoming "Wii 2" or whatever the next Nintendo home console will be, but that's all rumor there.



i think i saw something that might have confirmed that Sonic Generations might be on the 3DS

There were only two Sonic games on the dreamcast and one is already on XBLA

Unless you want Sonic Shuffle or some sh*t like that.

oh? well maybe it's the Sega Saturn i'm thinkin of then

[oldmanwinters]

oh? well maybe it's the Sega Saturn i'm thinkin of then

You mean Saturn "classics" like Sonic Blast, Sonic R, and Sonic Jam (the first compilation of the 4 main Genesis games)? I'm pretty sure that nobody but me likes Sonic Blast and Sonic R and Sega resells their Genesis stuff like nobody's will notice.:lol: You should have stuck with your recommendation of Sonic Dreamcast Collection, as it was by far the stronger platform for Sonic.

[ssjup81]

I never knew anyone with a Sega Saturn. Sonic R is one game I've always wanted to play.

[愛]

I'm surprised this thread has made it to 10 pages. What is there to talk about, other than nostalgia? Sonic has been ruined a million times over the last 10 years. I'd actually be embarrassed to buy a Sonic game these days.

[oldmanwinters]

I never knew anyone with a Sega Saturn. Sonic R is one game I've always wanted to play.

Buy the Sonic Gems Collection for Gamecube... or try hunting down the PC version. The Gamecube compilation uses the PC port rather than the Saturn.

I'm surprised this thread has made it to 10 pages. What is there to talk about, other than nostalgia? Sonic has been ruined a million times over the last 10 years. I'd actually be embarrassed to buy a Sonic game these days.

Sonic Colors sits by my TV with pride. And I still enjoy the Dreamcast Adventure games to this very day.
So... have a raspberry!:P
Luyw5mWV5is

[ssjup81]

I'm surprised this thread has made it to 10 pages. What is there to talk about, other than nostalgia? Sonic has been ruined a million times over the last 10 years. I'd actually be embarrassed to buy a Sonic game these days.I like Sonic Colors and Sonic 4, so that's worth talking about, I feel. That aside, not everyone dislike the later Sonic games.

[Turo602]

I like Sonic Colors and Sonic 4, so that's worth talking about, I feel. That aside, not everyone dislike the later Sonic games.

Sonic sucked for a while, he wasn't awesome or bad on the handhelds but Unleashed paved the way for a better Sonic experience but after that Sega started trying a bit more and now we have Sonic the Hedgehog 4 and Colors which were fairly good games IMO. Generations isn't looking too bad either and I wonder when Sega will announce Episode 2 and this 3DS game I've heard about.

[TheCanadiandrome]

You mean Saturn "classics" like Sonic Blast, Sonic R, and Sonic Jam (the first compilation of the 4 main Genesis games)? I'm pretty sure that nobody but me likes Sonic Blast and Sonic R and Sega resells their Genesis stuff like nobody's will notice.:lol: You should have stuck with your recommendation of Sonic Dreamcast Collection, as it was by far the stronger platform for Sonic.

ah i see :tcool:

[Master Splinter]

Hm, I always thought it was up down left right A, B, start. Not ABC start.

I think that was the level cheat not the d-bug cheat...

-ms

[XERO]

I'm always gonna love Sonic. If the new games don't keep me interested, I always have my Mega Collection.

What's funny? I've had Sonic Colors for 3 months now and haven't even touched it yet. :P

[oldmanwinters]

Hm, I always thought it was up down left right A, B, start. Not ABC start.

Sonic 1 Level Select: up down left right, hold A, start
You can then enter any level just by selecting it and pressing Start (or A); no stupid button holding necessary as is often assumed!:tcool:

Master Splinter is correct that D-Bug is "Up-C, Down-C, Left-C, Right-C, Hold ABC and press Start."

[TheCanadiandrome]

too bad there wasn't ever a Sonic Kart game, lol! :P

[XERO]

Do the Kart games in Sonic Adventure 2 count?

[The Stryker]

too bad there wasn't ever a Sonic Kart game, lol! :P

http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/sonic-and-sega-all-stars-racing-with-banjo-kazooie-box-artwork-xbox-360.jpg

[Peanut]

Easily one of the best kart racers ever made, actually. I'd say it's certainly the best since Double Dash.

[oldmanwinters]

http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/sonic-and-sega-all-stars-racing-with-banjo-kazooie-box-artwork-xbox-360.jpg

I haven't gotten to play this one much, but I really love what I've seen. For hardcore SEGA nerds like myself, there is just so much to appreciate about this game. It controls pretty well on the Wii too.

too bad there wasn't ever a Sonic Kart game, lol! :P

Ugh, unfortunately I also have to add:
OJOg-6dYW_0

And there was actually a sequel....

[TheCanadiandrome]

oh yeah i forgot about Sonic Drift, lol!

[Peanut]

Walkthrough of the "classic" style (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/classic-style-sonic-generations/714050) of Sonic Generations and then the same level in "modern" style (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/modern-style-sonic-generations/714052).

The classic stuff makes me feel soooo nostalgic for Sonic 2. That stuff looks just great. The modern stuff...whatever, but the classic stuff? Man. Especially with the old Sonic design. Looks great.

[Storm Wolf]

It's been a long time since I've even attempted a sonic game (back with the dreamcast) but I am definitely interested in that classic game play for generations. It looks really good and I think I would enjoy picking it up and giving it a go.

As for the more modern version....meh.... I just think Sonic was better the old style. Of coarse my judgement is based on the fact that I have played none of the newer games and only HEARD about how awful they were.

[Brodie]

Sonic Colors is totally awesome. I'm so pleasantly surprised, its not even funny.

[oldmanwinters]

Sonic Colors is totally awesome. I'm so pleasantly surprised, its not even funny.

This.

I'm guessing that Sonic Colors gameplay probably forms the basics of Generations. Colors itself builds off of some concepts present in the daytime levels of Sonic Unleashed, but Colors is substantially better executed than Unleashed.

Too bad I don't have access to a PS3 or X360.:-?

[Turo602]

Sonic Colors is totally awesome. I'm so pleasantly surprised, its not even funny.

Exactly how I felt even though I had some very minor problems with it.

Also, Generations looks very amazing! I like how in the modern level there were instances that he had to stop and do some jumping in 3D space which just brought me back to the Adventure days.

[TheCanadiandrome]

This.

I'm guessing that Sonic Colors gameplay probably forms the basics of Generations. Colors itself builds off of some concepts present in the daytime levels of Sonic Unleashed, but Colors is substantially better executed than Unleashed.

Too bad I don't have access to a PS3 or X360.:-?

it's on the Wii and DS, and i might get it for both

[oldmanwinters]

All I can say to this is... lol:
http://screwattack.com/videos/Game-Theory-Episode-5-SonicZoology

[ghitgo]

Sonic 2, Sonic CD, and Sonic Adventure 2 are my favorite Sonic games...

[Logan]

LOVE the Sonic games from the 90s. Sonic Spinball was the first video game I ever beat.

In general, I'm a huge fan of the character and franchise. I felt that Sonic Adventure (and beyond) ruined my perception of the universe. Everything from the characterizations to the plots just seemed too... cutesy.

I guess it's just something that's always been a part of me from age 4 till today. I like dramatic conflict, regardless of what the characters and locale look like. And I've never liked it when cartoons, comics, etc. insulted my intelligence by dumbing things down. Maybe that's why I went into writing as a career path. It's certainly one of the main reasons I appreciate the Turtle comics.

I felt the same way about Mario. I saw it as an "Alice in Wonderland" version of Zelda. Then I got let down again. :tgrumble:

[XERO]

I felt the same way about Mario. I saw it as an "Alice in Wonderland" version of Zelda.

Right down to that damn MIPS rabbit.

[Logan]

Right down to that damn MIPS rabbit.

I really wish I knew what you were talking about right now, so I could appreciate the joke.

[XERO]

I really wish I knew what you were talking about right now, so I could appreciate the joke.

If you ever played Mario 64, he's the rabbit you gotta catch twice to get 2 more Stars. You can find him in the lower part of the castle.

As for the Wonderland reference, MIPS is also late. That's why he's a pain to catch.

[Logan]

Ahhhh, gotcha. It's been a while since I've played Super Mario 64, hence my lack of any recollection.

Going back to Sonic, the Sonic Drift games for Game Gear (and maybe Master System) in the mid-90s.

[Zany Orange Dude]

I am a fan of both the character and the games. I love the classic games from the 90's and the modern ones of today. Sonic did go through some dark times for a while there, but now he is starting to make his come back! Generations rocked. I bought a PS3 just for this game, and it was worth it!

As much as I love Mario, the blue blur wins out in my opinion. Mario games are great, I just enjoy the Sonic series more. My favorite games would have to be: Sonic Unleashed (except the werehog stages, those got old fast) and Sonic Generations.

My favorite character is none other than Sonic himself. I am drawn to his cocky, laid-back attitude. He doesn't look at saving the world as his job or duty, but as something he does because he feels like it and has a blast doing it.

[Donnie]

I liked Tails better, but yeah I loved the Sonic games for genesis!

[愛]

Stop necroposting, Zany.