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Dr. Terminus
07-01-2009, 09:13 PM
And so does this make little Prince Michael
now King Michael?

..Just asking.

Leonardo Mystic
07-01-2009, 11:16 PM
I thought this was cool. It appears he left a plethora of unreleased music in his vaults. Enough they say to last years and years, more than even Elvis.

Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090701/ap_en_mu/us_michael_jackson_unreleased_music

'Endless' unreleased music in Jackson's vaults

NEW YORK – Those familiar with Michael Jackson's vaults say the pop star has left behind a trove of unreleased music.

Executives and lawyers who know the material anticipate the swelling demand of fans should be satisfied with unreleased tracks from studio sessions of some of Jackson's best albums, as well as more recently recorded songs made with Akon (AY'-kahn) and will.i.am (will eye AM').

Tommy Mottola (mah-TOH'-lah) is the former chairman and CEO of Sony Music, which owns the distribution rights to Jackson's music. He described the unreleased material as "endless."

Mottola said new and repackaged releases "could go on for years and year — even more than Elvis."

ThirdMarioBro
07-01-2009, 11:54 PM
Oh, thank God. That's what I was wanting to hear. I still want those thirty tracks that were cut from Bad. I know they slashed Streekwalker for Smooth Criminal (good call), but Streetwalker was freaking amazing when it dropped.

Anybody ever heard the demo for Thriller (Starlight)? Its the same medley, but completely different words. Freaky as hell.

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XERO
07-02-2009, 12:00 AM
I predict many posthumous MJ albums in the future. That is, if they'll allow it.

ThirdMarioBro
07-02-2009, 01:42 AM
Its a money printing machine, and we all know the Jackson family loves money. Besides, Sony BMG still holds the right to his catalog for another five years. They'll be in a mad rush to push as much music as they can out the door in those five years as they humanly can.

XERO
07-02-2009, 02:03 AM
Wanna bet that the other Jackson members are gonna try to release some stuff, too?

I mean, we already had Joe promote his record label at the BET Awards.

ThirdMarioBro
07-02-2009, 04:39 AM
Yeah, I wouldn't doubt it one bit. His entire family was, as Lisa Marie put it, "full of leeches". Then again, now that we've lost him, the more methods there are to get his lost music out there, the better. I've never heard the man write a bad song. Never. I don't think it was possible. Smooth Criminal was almost cut from Bad. Thriller was once a love song (at least the medley), and it still sounded freaking awesome.

I want his unreleased stuff to flood the market for years to come. In fact, I want the world to truly realize what they've lost -- the greatest songwriter of all time. We live in an era where 90% of music is douchebags writing some whiny mess down, then throwing some guitar chords on it and releasing it to sniveling apathetic teenagers. Michael wrote medley first, then once he found a magic medley, and a killer hook, he built a song on it. There was nobody on Earth who wrote more kick-ass bass lines. They'll be sampled and duplicated til' the end of time.

XERO
07-02-2009, 04:51 AM
Yeah, it was his melodies and basses that inspired me to make my own songs.

You have any idea how many times a day I spend humming the 'Billie Jean' and 'Smooth Criminal' intros? Michael said it himself that he went for his songs to be catchy and memorable. Any song that you find yourself humming, you've pretty much accomplished something.

And SMOOTH CRIMINAL was almost CUT? Are you kidding me?!

whitemonkey
07-02-2009, 01:41 PM
...And so we've seen the long-term side affects of hanging out with Macauley Culkin.

http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv111/whitemonkey33/2608941096_a02f6193d5.jpg
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saiyan_monkey
07-02-2009, 04:09 PM
I never knew that about Smooth Criminal but i did know about the church wanting MJ to stop making Thriller as it had supernatural stuff in it. I reckon those unreleased trove of songs would of been his plan in the first place. He always wanted to live forever and knew this was the way to do it. When you look at Jimi Hendrix and Elvis you could understand how someone wouldnt want the same songs released or remixed over and over.

Spike Spiegel
07-02-2009, 05:13 PM
Its a money printing machine, and we all know the Jackson family loves money. Besides, Sony BMG still holds the right to his catalog for another five years. They'll be in a mad rush to push as much music as they can out the door in those five years as they humanly can.

If they release all of his music videos on DVD, I will definitely buy them.

ThirdMarioBro
07-02-2009, 05:21 PM
I never knew that about Smooth Criminal but i did know about the church wanting MJ to stop making Thriller as it had supernatural stuff in it.

Ahh, the Reagan era. I remember the stories of the album burnings and all. That video drove so many religious zealots insane.

Spike Spiegel
07-02-2009, 05:28 PM
Ahh, the Reagan era. I remember the stories of the album burnings and all. That video drove so many religious zealots insane.

As someone who has grown up in the church myself, I think many Christians go nuts over things that just don't matter. What, are demons supposed to jump out of the TV when you watch the video??:roll::roll::roll:

I didn't know about "burnings" and boycotting the album. How childish is that? Thriller is just harmless fun. Leave it to the hyper-religious right to make a stink about something like that. And they wonder why so many people are leaving churches, etc. I don't follow my faith for man-made legalism, and no one anywhere should be forced to.

ThirdMarioBro
07-02-2009, 08:00 PM
As someone who has grown up in the church myself, I think many Christians go nuts over things that just don't matter. What, are demons supposed to jump out of the TV when you watch the video??:roll::roll::roll:

I didn't know about "burnings" and boycotting the album. How childish is that? Thriller is just harmless fun. Leave it to the hyper-religious right to make a stink about something like that. And they wonder why so many people are leaving churches, etc. I don't follow my faith for man-made legalism, and no one anywhere should be forced to.

*high-fives*

XERO
07-02-2009, 08:11 PM
Hey, aren't the Jacksons Jehovah's Witnesses?

Lordmylar06
07-02-2009, 08:19 PM
On CNN they just showed some of the rehearsal footage from 2 days prior to his death. He looked on top of his game, ready to make it happen, energetic. A stark contrast to what other people said about him being frail and weak or ready to die. He was so NOT ready to die.

ToTheNines
07-02-2009, 09:29 PM
Hey, aren't the Jacksons Jehovah's Witnesses?

They were, Mike and La Toya converted to Islam.

Jester
07-02-2009, 09:31 PM
Didn't Jermaine convert too?

ThirdMarioBro
07-02-2009, 09:35 PM
I dunno. They kept it mostly to themselves, so I just never bothered to care. I know his Mom is a Jehovah's Witness.

I saw the rehearsal footage once online last night, and have to turn it every time they replay it. It just bothers me too much to see The King on the brink of bringing back the glory, then having him taken away from us.

XERO
07-02-2009, 10:22 PM
Yeah, I hear you, man. He was in tip-top shape, too.

It's like being healthy doesn't even matter anymore.

Jester
07-02-2009, 10:59 PM
Look at Ledger. How "sick" was he before he died?

The Stryker
07-02-2009, 11:21 PM
Sick enough to shovel pills down his throat apparently.

Type 97 Chi-ha
07-02-2009, 11:29 PM
Yeah, I hear you, man. He was in tip-top shape, too.

It's like being healthy doesn't even matter anymore.

Very likely one of two factors was at work: one is that he had some hidden health problem was wasn't caught until it was too late, or else he simply overworked himself in his desperation to get back into top form. Both these situations have happened to other people.

Type 97 Chi-ha
07-02-2009, 11:34 PM
Look at Ledger. How "sick" was he before he died?

Interesting you mention that. I remember how the news media was implying that his prior movie performance as the Joker somehow warped him into destroying himself. They didn't say so outright, but they did mention the drug overdose and his performance as the Joker in the same breath. Well, Owen Wilson almost did kill himself a year or so ago...

saiyan_monkey
07-03-2009, 02:00 AM
Heath and Owen are a total different story to Micheal Jackson. Bad luck to Heath but I dont have much remorse for people that overdose on drugs same as self pitty.. i.e Owen. He was gonna top himself because his girlfriend dumped him so they are different situations. My best friends father died about 10 years ago, he was a very strong man, looked healthy then his heart gave out. People forget that their hearts well being and healtiness always depends on what food they eat, exercise and life style. There are the certain unlucky ones that dont have the best heart to start with.

Im not insulting Heath or Owen its just I have no pitty for their situations.

Please dont get offended.

ThirdMarioBro
07-03-2009, 02:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s31ZfhDmDLQ

If you want to see Michael's final performance, this is it. Be warned, its hard to get through without crying. The smile and fade at the end just destroyed whatever emotional reserves I had left in me.

Slap-Happy
07-03-2009, 02:21 AM
It's still hard for me to belive thaat he's gone.

saiyan_monkey
07-03-2009, 02:28 AM
If they release all of his music videos on DVD, I will definitely buy them.

EDIT: check this out

http://cgi.ebay.com/Michael-Jackson-Ultimate-Collection-32-DVDs-1-CD_W0QQitemZ330341719049QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_DVD_ HD_DVD_Blu_ray?hash=item4ce9e69c09&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C 293%3A1%7C294%3A50


My son has autisim and trying to find stuff he really enjoys that isnt playstation or T.V is so hard sometimes. The day after Micheal died, here in New Zealand they played a top 15 then a top 40. He went nuts for it. After I picked him up from school today he got home about 3:10 and since then (apart from dinner time) he's been going hard singing, dancing (yes it includes the nut grab move, point being its 7:29 as im typing this) but its so awesome to watch him do this. When he watched the top 40 he didnt move an inch in about 2-3 hours.

And so begins a new fan...

ThirdMarioBro
07-03-2009, 03:55 AM
For the record, I'd like to hunt down and beat to death all the people who found it in themselves to place a picture of Michael Jackson, dead on a stretcher all over magazine covers in stores. I can't go through the damned checkout line without wincing in pain when I see those goddamned magazines. Its the most disgusting, disgraceful, and reprehensible thing to come out of all of this so far. If anything should represent the final picture of The King that people remember in their minds, it should be this.

http://mediaoutrage.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/michael-jackson-r1.jpg?w=426&h=600

That's how I'll always remember him. He was fifty years old, and according to reports, even in that final rehearsal, dancers in their twenties couldn't keep up with him. He had to slow the routine down so they could keep up. That's the final image of Michael Jackson I'll remember. That's the image that will be in my head when people are thinking about him in twenty years like they thought about Elvis. Everybody remembers the image of Elvis working his magic on stage in that ridiculously awesome rhinestone jumpsuit in Hawaii. It was his greatest moment. This is my Elvis in Hawaii, and this is how I'll forever remember The King.

Its funny how I can tell what step he was about to roll into just from his pose.

XERO
07-03-2009, 04:46 AM
Immortal. That's all I gotta say.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
07-03-2009, 08:49 AM
Look at Wikipedia, his death has an own article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Michael_Jackson).

Peanut
07-03-2009, 10:10 AM
I still feel like I haven't been hit with the true realization that he's gone. It's almost like if I just keep denying it, it can never have an effect on me, but my resolve is slowly deteriorating. Especially considering as I was just clicking into this thread, a car blew by on the road outside blaring Thriller. I can't remember the last time I heard a Michael Jackson song thumping loudly out of a car that I wasn't in.

Sewer Bull
07-03-2009, 12:01 PM
He was fifty years old, and according to reports, even in that final rehearsal, dancers in their twenties couldn't keep up with him. He had to slow the routine down so they could keep up.

I read about it in the news as well, and, to be honest, despite all my respect for MJ, I'd give this one a benefit of a doubt. He was shown on a wheelchair a few months ago, after all, and now he is too fast for 20-year olds?

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Of course, he was in an astonishingly good shape regarding for his age and medical history he had, but seriously... dancers in their twenties not keeping up with him? This video doesn't really look like it, he seems to be taking things slow for his own sake, not theirs.

Although yes, it's just a 1.5-minute long footage, so it's not showing everything, obviously.

Ninjinister
07-03-2009, 02:55 PM
Still didn't look like a man who would soon be dead. If I were to have seen this prior to his passing, I would have thought he would have been well on his way to an amazing tour.

ThirdMarioBro
07-03-2009, 04:23 PM
I can still remember the day he died, I was completely oblivious in the car. I flicked on the radio by mistake as I was switching to the aux jack to blast the MJ Megamix and I heard the words, "dead at 50". Didn't know who they were talking about so I went on to the ZEN and blasted the music for the next 30 minutes until I arrived home. I was singing along and trying to hit the "Whoo-hoos" in the car with the window down and this old lady at the stop light gave me a disapproving look. I turned it up and drove off laughing.

Didn't realize that was the last time (at least in my head) that I was listen to MJ as a living artist.

Ninjinister
07-03-2009, 04:32 PM
This is going to be one of those things that people will ask "where were you when you found out about ____________" for years to come.

My story's back on page 5.

Ryona
07-03-2009, 09:38 PM
This is a massive loss. Michael Jackson was the best thing to happen in the 20th century.
It's so sad that he passed away before he could make his ultimate comeback. Though ironicly, through his death, he's once again huge.

I've been listening to his music constantly these past days, watching videos, and playing the MoonWalker arcade game a number of times (thank you again, TMB, for the ROM and arcade emulator).
I even watched Wotaken's Thriller parody.


Legends never die... And among legends, you're king, Michael.

Jester
07-03-2009, 09:39 PM
Heck, I thought you'd died. WB, Ryona.

ThirdMarioBro
07-03-2009, 10:15 PM
Yeah, I was wondering where you went off to again. Welcome back. :)

Ryona
07-03-2009, 10:21 PM
I ain't dead yet. Just had computer problems for a long while. But it's all fixed now.
Been busy too. Infact, I recently made a 3D virtual dance club recently for fun which has a nice tribute to Michael Jackson inside.

ThirdMarioBro
07-04-2009, 12:24 AM
Sweet. Would love to see that.

Here's a dose of one of my favorite MJ performances...

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Makes me yearn for the 80's just watching that.

saiyan_monkey
07-04-2009, 12:36 AM
(thank you again, TMB, for the ROM and arcade emulator).

Any chance I could get that emulator and game?

FlawedCoil82
07-04-2009, 12:43 AM
I ordered that Ultimate Collection boxset of 32 dvds from TVinthebox.com. But I am very concerned since it's a very low price for something that (supossedly) contains so much. I do know this.....I will be VERY upset if it doesn't contain the music videos for:
"Give In To Me"
"Scream"
"Human Nature"
"Dirty Diana"
"Earth Song"
"Heal The World"
"Cry"
"Stranger In Moscow"

Jack

saiyan_monkey
07-04-2009, 12:45 AM
I thought it had 7 dvd's of videos from MTV? How much videos does MJ really have, anyone know

FlawedCoil82
07-04-2009, 01:30 AM
The Michael Jackson music videos I am aware of are:

Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough
Rock With You
She's Out Of My Life
Billie Jean
Beat It
Thriller
Human Nature
Bad
The Way You Make Me Feel
Dirty Diana
Speed Demon
Man In The Mirror
Another Part Of Me
Liberian Girl
Smooth Criminal
Leave Me Alone
Black Or White
Remember The Time
In The Closet
Who Is It
Jam
Heal The World
Give In To Me
Will You Be There
Gone Too Soon
Scream
Come Together
They Don't Care About Us
You Are Not Alone
Earth Song
Stranger In Moscow
Blood On The Dance Floor
Ghosts
You Rock My World
Cry

I could be missing some though... :ohwell:
Jack

ThirdMarioBro
07-04-2009, 02:35 AM
I just want the complete film of all those concert shows that he had filmed, yet never released. There's sh*t-tons of it.

GK Punk
07-04-2009, 02:47 AM
I'm curious, does anyone have or know of any good in tribute desktop images? My friend had this great one for Christopher Reeves and it got us started on talking about how awesome a tribute wall to MJ would be.

ThirdMarioBro
07-04-2009, 04:16 AM
I wish I did. I'd make one for ya', but I'm terrible with Photoshop.

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/5929-moonwalker

Instead, I present The Nostalgia Critic's review of Moonwalker from a few months ago. Nothing terribly offensive in there. Just a good-hearted laugh at a terrible movie with one awesome part in the middle. I needed a good laugh at MJ's funny side, and this is it.

The Stryker
07-04-2009, 10:49 PM
Aw.

Now I'm even more depressed because the nostalgia critic is terrible.

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Thats better.

Ninjinister
07-05-2009, 12:45 AM
The Simpsons continue their tribute:

http://tv.ign.com/articles/100/1001154p1.html

ThirdMarioBro
07-05-2009, 02:46 AM
Ha-ha! I find it touching that they managed to work out the syndication issues to get this on the air. It'll be bittersweet watching that again. Its probably my favorite Simpsons moment in twenty years.

ThirdMarioBro
07-05-2009, 07:52 PM
Won't hesitate in saying that brought a tear to my eye.

XERO
07-05-2009, 10:08 PM
Any idea when they're having the funeral?

ThirdMarioBro
07-05-2009, 10:32 PM
Actual funeral, I don't know. The public memorial is Tuesday at the Staples Center (aka, the 2009 LA Street Riots). All of this is too premature. No cemetery is going to able to handle the demand of visitors. They'll probably move him in a year or two to Neverland Ranch and pull a Graceland.

XERO
07-05-2009, 10:46 PM
Staples Center (aka, the 2009 LA Street Riots).

I'm surprised they didn't riot after the Lakers won the title.

I think they did the same thing in New York when Biggie had his funeral. It turned into a party and they got a little rowdy.

GK Punk
07-05-2009, 11:34 PM
I'm surprised they didn't riot after the Lakers won the title.


I'm pretty sure they did, actually.

XERO
07-06-2009, 01:30 AM
I'm pretty sure they did, actually.

...

... Yeah. :|

Ra
07-06-2009, 01:52 AM
I've been having a bad week this week with my parents arguing at me all the time, but everyone shuts up any segments on Michael Jackson. For that I respect him so much more than I originally did.

It's so weird... This has probably been the only celebrity 'issue' I have really paid attention to with great interest at all in my life so far. Only now I've realised how big he had been in the culture of my childhood. I remember loving the Alien Ant Farm cover of Smooth Criminal, oblivious to who the guy was who originally made the song so famous. And the covers of his songs... only a year or so ago I bothered to listen to the original stuff and fell in love with it.

Kinda still in a daze about it... espeically after seeing the final rehersal videos. Like so many people have been saying: "You wouldn't think he would suddenly die after giving such a great rehersal".

XERO
07-06-2009, 02:07 AM
For you, Ra. :)

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ThirdMarioBro
07-06-2009, 03:14 AM
Ahhh! AHHHHHHHH!! AHHHHHHHH!!!!

My ears.....blood......



But yeah, they did riot when the Lakers took the title, but that was nothing compared to this. Hell, this will be nothing compared to B.I.G. 1.2 million people flooded the site for tickets to an event that houses 17,000 people. They should have had this at the Washington Monument because I don't think LA can handle this. Heck, they can barely handle a nerd trade show in June.

XERO
07-06-2009, 03:27 AM
Michael Jackson in a Lakers jersey moonwalking to 'Hypnotize' by Notorious B.I.G = riot.

GK Punk
07-06-2009, 05:18 AM
That... would sure be a sight to see, wouldn't it?

ThirdMarioBro
07-06-2009, 05:21 AM
Anywho, I'm looking forward to seeing the Staples Center get trampled all the way to 11th street Tuesday. It'll be bittersweet to see just how many people really cared after all these years of negativity.

GK Punk
07-06-2009, 05:34 AM
I heard that a lot of channels will actually be airing his funeral... anyone hear about that?

XERO
07-06-2009, 05:39 AM
I laughed at the jokes they made of him, but it was all in the vain of comedy. I never laughed to ridicule the person. I always cared for and respected the guy, because he is a big musical influence in my life, if not the biggest.

I can honestly say that no other artist will ever break the sales record of Thriller.

I heard that a lot of channels will actually be airing his funeral... anyone hear about that?

Dude... I'd be shocked if they didn't.

ThirdMarioBro
07-06-2009, 12:41 PM
ABC, CBS, Fox, and CNN are. NBC was holding out, but they caved yesterday.

That Matt Guy
07-06-2009, 01:37 PM
The commercialization of a f*cking funeral is makes me ill.

Type 97 Chi-ha
07-06-2009, 02:10 PM
Anywho, I'm looking forward to seeing the Staples Center get trampled all the way to 11th street Tuesday. It'll be bittersweet to see just how many people really cared after all these years of negativity.

That's exactly how I felt just looking at this thread. Little sneering at his weirdness, but lots of grief at his death and kudos to him as an artist and performer. The emotion here has exceeded my wildest dreams. :o

Peanut
07-06-2009, 05:50 PM
Ahhh! AHHHHHHHH!! AHHHHHHHH!!!!

My ears.....blood......

Oh, come on. I think as far as covers go, especially concerning MJ, that one wasn't so bad.

GK Punk
07-06-2009, 05:57 PM
I always liked that cover. That and this German punk band did a cover of Billie Jean back in the 90's that was pretty decent,

XERO
07-06-2009, 06:06 PM
Ever since that cover, I haven't heard much of Alien Ant Farm. Are they still around?

Hannah
07-06-2009, 06:11 PM
That band sucks ass.

Anyway, has anyone else seen the ridiculous sh*t about "MJ's ghost"? I hate people.

ThirdMarioBro
07-06-2009, 10:17 PM
That band sucks ass.


*high-five*

Tell 'em the truth sister.

XERO
07-06-2009, 10:52 PM
Just askin'. Just askin'.

ThirdMarioBro
07-06-2009, 11:25 PM
Oh, I know its not that bad. I just like being an anal ass purist. :) I don't listen to it, but I am glad somebody cared enough to cover the song since I believe it (and the whole album) gets regularly overlooked.

XERO
07-06-2009, 11:34 PM
Yeah, and considering that Michael must've liked it enough to allow them to cover it.

What if Weird Al made a parody of it like he did 'Bad' and 'Beat It'? :lol:

FlawedCoil82
07-07-2009, 01:41 AM
Anyway, has anyone else seen the ridiculous sh*t about "MJ's ghost"? I hate people.

You know what, I assumed this was going to be something really stupid until they played it on CNN tonight. I was all prepared to immediately say it was bullcrap, but the "shadow of someone else in the room at the end of the hall" theory just doesn't fit. How would someone's shadow block out the sunlight as it's walking by? It casts a reflection on the hallway coming towards you. If it would have been a shadow, it would have not blocked out the light coming towards you in the hallway but only behind it and not cast a reflection on the floor. :| Of course I am not saying "yes it's definitely Michael Jackson" or that it's even a ghost, but as it stands I cannot see a logical way to explain it. It's a side profile of a shadow so it can't be coming from an outside window on the side, otherwise it would have been much faster moving as it disappeared in the middle of the hallway once the person passed the window. I don't know, say what you will. :ohwell:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OSrXBSCqCc&feature=related
Jack

Sewer Bull
07-07-2009, 02:32 AM
Alien Ant Farm's cover version is pretty good, actually - not to mention that it also proves MJ's astounding songwriting skills.

But that's just me.

ThirdMarioBro
07-07-2009, 03:23 AM
I always wondered why the extra two bars of lyrics from the Moonwalker version were cut out of every other version. Cut lyrics in bold...

"So they came into the out way, it was Sunday, what a black day
Every time I start to find him, there are No Clues Left Behind Him
And they have no way of knowing, of a suspect, or what to expect
Mouth to mouth resuscitation, sounding heartbeats, intimidations."



Anywho, here's some unreleased MJ goodness -- Tease Me
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That base line just screams Sonic 3 to me for some reason. God, that man was an amazing songwriter.

And of course, let's not forget the best damn Super Bowl halftime show of all time...
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...and the magic half...
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You see, this demonstrates to me what was so special about Michael Jackson and why he'll always be the king. Half time shows today are a spectacle of modern pyrotechnics, insane planning, and perfect execution. Michael did this on a sh*tty stage, with crappy camera angles, and sound that was half unhearable because of the audience levels drowning out the music, yet its so damn captivating. He had you in the palm of his hands just because of his stage presence and his magical dancing. His shows were never that impressive when it came to the special effects. They were impressive because he didn't need all that stuff to cover up his pure, raw talent. A lot of current performers could take a lesson.

XERO
07-07-2009, 04:13 AM
I always wondered why the extra two bars of lyrics from the Moonwalker version were cut out of every other version. Cut lyrics in bold...

"So they came into the out way, it was Sunday, what a black day
Every time I start to find him, there are No Clues Left Behind Him
And they have no way of knowing, of a suspect, or what to expect
Mouth to mouth resuscitation, sounding heartbeats, intimidations."

Yeah, I always wondered that too. It'd make more sense of the cut if he just flat out cursed.:P

Still, one of the many mysteries of the world.

FlawedCoil82
07-07-2009, 04:34 AM
I am not convinced that "Tease Me" is a Michael Jackson song. The singer sounds similar in some parts to Michael but other parts I just can't picture it being his voice. Not to mention none of his trademark "hee hee's" or anything are ever used. It sounds like it's some obscure r&b group instead. :-?
Jack

Mecha Cow
07-07-2009, 12:18 PM
I always wondered why the extra two bars of lyrics from the Moonwalker version were cut out of every other version.
I think the verse flows better without those extra lines. I read that they were added to the Moonwalker version of the song to 'make the story clearer', whatever that means.

ThirdMarioBro
07-07-2009, 12:53 PM
Watching the memorial now. Took off work to stay home and see it.

Just....damn.

Buslady
07-07-2009, 01:14 PM
Im just glad i didnt end up with a trip to downtown LA or anywhere neat Staples Center....

im watching it. stevie wonder is one right now

I thought they said they weren't gonna have his casket there. guess they were full of it

The Stryker
07-07-2009, 01:14 PM
Stevie Wonder killed it. Awesome.

Buslady
07-07-2009, 01:19 PM
LOL Michael had KFC while Magic has grilled chicken LOL that's hilarious he was just like anyone else, just a performer who make a huge mark

Raph's Girl
07-07-2009, 02:43 PM
I got home from vacation in time to see the memorial service. And I just have to say that this was a rather moving service. The biggest thing of it IMO was the kids actually being on stage and Paris' short speach.

XERO
07-07-2009, 02:44 PM
Watching his daughter speak was too much.

Mindy
07-07-2009, 02:47 PM
Watching his daughter speak was too much.


I agree. And Marlon. Oh, man. :(

Peanut
07-07-2009, 02:52 PM
Watching the majority of that was really difficult. Some of those speeches really killed me, and Reverend Sharpton really stole it all. His daughter was like an absolute f*cking stake to the heart, though.

ThirdMarioBro
07-07-2009, 02:56 PM
Yeah. It was just too much to handle. I have nothing to say. You can tell right now that those children are going to be the sole keepers of his legacy in the future. I can't think of anyone more qualified. Today was the first time I stopped feeling sorry for myself and the public's lost and felt for those poor children. I'd also like to hope there's a horrible feeling of guilt in the heart of those who ever thought those weren't his kids. I mean, they look just like him. You could tell the moment the service began. Anybody who wants to bust up that family is going to have a hell of a time trying (and failing miserably).

God, poor Paris at the end. I just bawled. It was too much to handle.

Buslady
07-07-2009, 03:47 PM
yeah its the kids who suffer the most. she was brave enough to get up there and say those few words though. good for her.

Spike Spiegel
07-07-2009, 05:38 PM
My mom and I were watching the memorial pretty much all day today; we recorded it. It was sad, but I am glad they treated it as a celebration and not a "funeral." And some of the anecdotes from Berry Gordy, Rev. Al Sharpton, Brooke Shields, and especially the one from Magic Johnson really touched me.

One question: what is the title of the MJ song that John Mayer covered with the electric guitar at the memorial?? I have been trying to figure that out ever since I heard it on the VH1 "Michael Jackson, The King of Pop" bumpers from around the time he died...

ThirdMarioBro
07-07-2009, 07:50 PM
That was Human Nature (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Nature_(Michael_Jackson_song)) from Thriller.

GK Punk
07-07-2009, 09:00 PM
Well I was unable to watch it this morning, so I Tivo'd it and just finished watching it now.

WOW.

To say I was touched would be an understatement. Some great performances and speeches. Paris at the end almost killed me though. It was sad but I was fine until she spoke. It was a really touching tribute.

XERO
07-07-2009, 09:16 PM
Watching the replays for parts I missed.

Jennifer Hudson singing Will You Be There... :cry:

Machias Banshee
07-07-2009, 09:18 PM
That segment was heart wrenching. I absolutely love that song, and listening to Michael's monologue towards the end just seemed so poignant...

SassyGal
07-07-2009, 09:20 PM
Well I was unable to watch it this morning, so I Tivo'd it and just finished watching it now.

WOW.

To say I was touched would be an understatement. Some great performances and speeches. Paris at the end almost killed me though. It was sad but I was fine until she spoke. It was a really touching tribute.

I recorded it also and Paris' speech is what finally did me in. I had been on the brink of tears through the whole thing and it all came gushing out when she began to cry.

I never realized how much of Michael's music played a part in my childhood until my sisters and I were reminiscing about all the times we would play our Michael Jackson records for hours on end and try to imitate his dance moves. They truly were good times and he will be missed by so many people.

XERO
07-07-2009, 09:27 PM
I never realized how much of Michael's music played a part in my childhood until my sisters and I were reminiscing about all the times we would play our Michael Jackson records for hours on end and try to imitate his dance moves. They truly were good times and he will be missed by so many people.

Growing up, that's all my sisters ever did. Blast popular music throught the house. Michael Jackson was at the top of the list, of course. :)

ThirdMarioBro
07-07-2009, 09:52 PM
Heck, its all I do right now. :) Me and my white fedora.

XERO
07-07-2009, 10:12 PM
heck, its all i do right now. :) me and my white fedora.

Yes, sir. REPRESENT! 8)

Leonardo Mystic
07-08-2009, 12:12 AM
I haven't even seen the memorial, but when I read an article with his little girl pictured on stage sobbing for her daddy and saying those words, I finally lost it. I was empathetic of his passing as a respected fellow human being, but it never brought tears until I read of his daughter speaking at the service.

Damn... that just killed me. Children is my biggest weakness and they are the ones that suffer most in these situations. God have mercy on them.

FlawedCoil82
07-08-2009, 12:18 AM
Out of like the 11 forums I am a member of, this is the one and only forum that seems to be respecting Michael. I am getting so fed up with the idiots on the other forums saying stupid nonsense like "our kids are safe now that he is in the ground" and worse. I would seriously find much delight in watching their self-righteous, ignorant asses getting beaten bloody. Such stupidity is inexcusable as long as they still wish to claim to be human beings.

Onto the memorial. I was fine throughout the first half. The spoken lines at the end of "Will You Be There" were a bit rough, but nothing too bad. I really liked the statement that Al Sharpton said (I don't normally like him) but I thought his line to Michael's kids about him not being strange but it being "strange" all the stuff he had to go through was very appropriate and true. I also liked the performance of "Human Nature" (one of his most underrated ballads).

The second half didn't do anything for me until Usher came out and sang next to the casket and got choked up at the end. That was tough but I was still alright. "We Are The World" and "Heal The World" at the end was an awesome way to close it. I thought I was in the clear. His one brother got to me a little bit when he asked Michael to give his twin brother a hug for him. Then his daughter stepped up to the mic. At this point I was actually stunned at what I was seeing and that was when it all became very "real" at the entire scope of the tragedy. Now I am not usually an emotional person, nor do I cry at funerals (not even my own grandparents because my beliefs brought me comfort). But wow, that was just heart wrenching to watch such pain and hurt coming from such an innocent person who really knew Michael far better than any of these assholes that are blindly slamming him and simply committed to their hatred, no matter what. My sister and mother were already bawling by that point. And then they had to seal the deal by playing the hauntingly beautiful intro melody from "Man In The Mirror" as they started wheeling his casket out. I couldn't take it any more. I think that was the first tear to run down my face in well over 9 years. I feel the worst for his children and knowing what all they will have to deal with in the future and all the idiots out there all too willing to share their ignorance and throw stones at their father (that they obviously love dearly). What a horrible tragedy this all has been.
Jack

The Stryker
07-08-2009, 12:19 AM
I tell ya, It didn't really hit me until Stevie Wonder came out.

FlawedCoil82
07-08-2009, 12:37 AM
I tell ya, It didn't really hit me until Stevie Wonder came out.

The speech he gave before he started singing was nice. Unfortunately I HATED that song with a passion. The first 30 seconds were beautiful and then the melody turned into pure garbage. I like some of Stevie's music but that was certainly not one of them. Only the line about him wishing he had never been allowed to see this day was rather touching for me.
Jack

ThirdMarioBro
07-08-2009, 12:46 AM
Jermaine singing Smile was when I lost it. I held back the tears to that point, but that was too much. It was all downhill for me from there.

Out of like the 11 forums I am a member of, this is the one and only forum that seems to be respecting Michael. I am getting so fed up with the idiots on the other forums saying stupid nonsense like "our kids are safe now that he is in the ground" and worse. I would seriously find much delight in watching their self-righteous, ignorant asses getting beaten bloody. Such stupidity is inexcusable as long as they still wish to claim to be human beings.

Onto the memorial. I was fine throughout the first half. The spoken lines at the end of "Will You Be There" were a bit rough, but nothing too bad. I really liked the statement that Al Sharpton said (I don't normally like him) but I thought his line to Michael's kids about him not being strange but it being "strange" all the stuff he had to go through was very appropriate and true. I also liked the performance of "Human Nature" (one of his most underrated ballads).

The second half didn't do anything for me until Usher came out and sang next to the casket and got choked up at the end. That was tough but I was still alright. "We Are The World" and "Heal The World" at the end was an awesome way to close it. I thought I was in the clear. His one brother got to me a little bit when he asked Michael to give his twin brother a hug for him. Then his daughter stepped up to the mic. At this point I was actually stunned at what I was seeing and that was when it all became very "real" at the entire scope of the tragedy. Now I am not usually an emotional person, nor do I cry at funerals (not even my own grandparents because my beliefs brought me comfort). But wow, that was just heart wrenching to watch such pain and hurt coming from such an innocent person who really knew Michael far better than any of these assholes that are blindly slamming him and simply committed to their hatred, no matter what. My sister and mother were already bawling by that point. And then they had to seal the deal by playing the hauntingly beautiful intro melody from "Man In The Mirror" as they started wheeling his casket out. I couldn't take it any more. I think that was the first tear to run down my face in well over 9 years. I feel the worst for his children and knowing what all they will have to deal with in the future and all the idiots out there all too willing to share their ignorance and throw stones at their father (that they obviously love dearly). What a horrible tragedy this all has been.
Jack

Couldn't have said it better. Its hard for me to accept the ignorance and hatred some people feel for others, just based on random accusations, and no proof or facts to back them up. First of all, why would I take the "expert" opinion of some other hating fool over that of his own daughter? The girl adored her father. You could tell that by just looking at her. I can tell you for fact, no child whose father was a "wierdo" or "sicko" would ever have that much love for their parent. Ever. That single image should be enough for the world to close the book on the legend of "Wacko Jacko" just out of fu*king respect. Michael Jackson was a unique and often times strange man, but he was also a loving father, and that's the greatest thing any guy can hope to be.

Lastly, he had to have raised those children well for that little girl to have had the strength to stand up there in the public light for the first time in her life at age 11, and defend her Dad on the (literal) world microphone. That was one of the bravest examples of true love I've seen in a long time. Its one of those moments people will always remember.

Its sad that they will now be thrust into the tabloid light, but at least Michael achieved what he set out to do. He wanted them to have as normal of a childhood as they could -- the one he never got. He did everything in his power to give them that, even at the sake of his own image. It may have ended early, but they at least got several years of innocence with their beloved father. I think he can be proud of that. In fact, I think that's what he would be most proud of.

XERO
07-08-2009, 12:58 AM
It was kinda funny when Magin Johnson told the KFC story. Had me chuckling for a bit there.

But, yeah, besides his daughter, it was Usher's perfomance that got me. Singing right next to his casket must be a hell of a burden. And when he broke down at the end, that was it.

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I think the only time Mike and Usher danced together. Look for MJ to ROFL when Chris Tucker comes out. :lol:

ThirdMarioBro
07-08-2009, 02:04 AM
That's another classic TV moment. Usher sidewinders right into MJ. That had to be the thrill of a lifetime for him. I know I was jumping around for joy during that whole routine. And Chris Tucker is just so damn funny.

I can't imagine the pain he had to feel singing right by The King -- his idol's casket.

XERO
07-08-2009, 02:11 AM
I know I was jumping around for joy during that whole routine.

You and me both. That was one of those classic moments.

I wonder why Chris Tucker and Macaulay Culkin didn't show up, anyway?

The Stryker
07-08-2009, 02:15 AM
I would guess they were in the crowd. There were a few people who didn't get time on stage.

EDIT: Some of us pay tribute in small ways.

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prophecy718
07-08-2009, 10:33 AM
was this posted already? MJ's stuff from his gameroom

http://www.pinsane.com/pinorama/events/MJ_09/kr/michael_jackson_arcade_entry.html

Sewer Bull
07-08-2009, 11:06 AM
I'm not really sure MJ would appreciate showing his kids out in public so openly, like his family did yesterday.

After all, he tried to protect them for so many years (unlike some celebs selling out the newborns' pics right away) and then - bang! - all the efforts are lost after his death, the kids are thrown to the public.

Anyway, I'm listening to "Man In The Mirror" now. "Bad" is such a badass album, I prefer it to "Thriller", personally.

ThirdMarioBro
07-08-2009, 03:24 PM
Ha-ha! Do I'm not alone! I too prefer Bad to Thriller. Thriller has more hits, but Bad was more FM heavy, and I love FM sounds. Actually, Bad is probably the album that got me hooked on FM sounds in the first place. They're so warm and sharp.

was this posted already? MJ's stuff from his gameroom

http://www.pinsane.com/pinorama/events/MJ_09/kr/michael_jackson_arcade_entry.html

Duuuude, that man had good taste in arcade games.

prophecy718
07-08-2009, 08:41 PM
:) from his gameroom

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/CeeJEEZIE/michaeljackson.jpg

Voltron
07-08-2009, 09:19 PM
CONCERT'S ON, EVERYBODY!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2LIMuwLMGg

ThirdMarioBro
07-08-2009, 09:25 PM
Not funny. The shows would have started today.

Dark 5cythe
07-08-2009, 09:38 PM
I'm not really sure MJ would appreciate showing his kids out in public so openly, like his family did yesterday.

After all, he tried to protect them for so many years (unlike some celebs selling out the newborns' pics right away) and then - bang! - all the efforts are lost after his death, the kids are thrown to the public.

Anyway, I'm listening to "Man In The Mirror" now. "Bad" is such a badass album, I prefer it to "Thriller", personally.

You dont think it was really weird to keep the kids hidden from the WORLD? How are they supposed to grow up and mature?

I think he did it because everyone would see they look nothing like him (black or white) and would realize what we now know: they arent his biological kids.

ThirdMarioBro
07-08-2009, 09:43 PM
And just what difference does biological make? They were his kids. He raised them, took care of him, and they clearly loved him dearly. I don't care whether they came from him or not, and frankly, its none of my damn business.

The Stryker
07-08-2009, 10:04 PM
You dont think it was really weird to keep the kids hidden from the WORLD? How are they supposed to grow up and mature?

I think he did it because everyone would see they look nothing like him (black or white) and would realize what we now know: they arent his biological kids.

I think he did it because he realized he was MICHAEL JACKSON and his kids would be followed around in the public eye just like he was when he was a kid and he didn't want that for them.

Cure
07-08-2009, 10:26 PM
You dont think it was really weird to keep the kids hidden from the WORLD? How are they supposed to grow up and mature?

Yeah, I dunno how I would have turned out had my parents deterred the paparazzi from following me all over the place. Thanks, mom. Those soulless cameramen sure brought about a lot of good memories.

The Stryker
07-09-2009, 12:30 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3573/3409364883_42a8646b98_b.jpg

Lordmylar06
07-09-2009, 01:10 AM
CONCERT'S ON, EVERYBODY!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2LIMuwLMGg

Ok seriously, I was watching Larry King at work when this clip played. I saw it and thought I was just imagining it. I know it's probably just a fluke effect or maybe even hoax material(I expect better from CNN), but seeing this again gave me a chill.

XERO
07-09-2009, 01:20 AM
Man, that's a lot of sampling.

And as far as I'm concerned, you don't always have to be blood to be a parent.

The Stryker
07-09-2009, 01:52 AM
I had no idea Good Life was P.Y.T.

Kanye loves MJ though so I'm not surprised.

XERO
07-09-2009, 01:57 AM
I had no idea Good Life was P.Y.T.

Yep. When I first the saw the video, I recognized the melody and instantly fell in love with it.

Kudos to Mr. West.

Too bad he didn't make a 'P.Y.T.' reference, though. :lol:

Ra
07-09-2009, 06:20 AM
I never got to see the full funeral. Just clips from the news and what-not. (I'm blaming going down to my grandmother's and her hate for anything not Judge Judy).

But goddamnit... even though it's so overused now by the media here in Australia, listening to Michael's daughter step up and let her love out of her heart so that she could share it with the world... goddamn it touched me. I really wish I could see the whole thing now from start to finish... it would have been wonderful. The way a funeral really should go down: Celebrating life instead of death.

was this posted already? MJ's stuff from his gameroom

http://www.pinsane.com/pinorama/events/MJ_09/kr/michael_jackson_arcade_entry.html
That. Is. Epic.

Spike Spiegel
07-09-2009, 10:30 AM
:) from his gameroom

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/CeeJEEZIE/michaeljackson.jpg

I note a Zoltar machine like the one in Big.:P:P:P

I wonder if that's why he bought it??

ThirdMarioBro
07-09-2009, 02:35 PM
I wonder if he bought one of those replica pianos from Big that they have at the NYC Toys R Us.

I never got to see the full funeral. Just clips from the news and what-not. (I'm blaming going down to my grandmother's and her hate for anything not Judge Judy).

Alas, the viewing habits of old people. If you've got broadband, go to Mininova and look up the torrent. Its floating around the internet.

XERO
07-09-2009, 03:51 PM
I wonder if he bought one of those replica pianos from Big that they have at the NYC Toys R Us.

Heh, knowing MJ, he probably had the original.

ThirdMarioBro
07-09-2009, 10:22 PM
Heh, probably. Hell, the man hired Carrie Fisher to come and entertain his kids as Princess Leia.

XERO
07-09-2009, 10:50 PM
Talk about commitment.

Just give me a lightsaber and I'm happy.:)

ThirdMarioBro
07-09-2009, 11:28 PM
Nancy Pelosi is a fu*king bitch.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/09/michael-jackson-resolutio_0_n_228922.html

All that woman has ever cared about is her own contrived little political agenda. Who cares though. People will hail MJ as a legend long after that bug-eyed wretch has been forgotten.

But I'd really enjoy the opportunity to hit this asshole with a Hummer.
http://www.1010wins.com/-Jackson-Was-a-Pervert-/4742879

XERO
07-09-2009, 11:57 PM
Yeah, NOW they want to talk sh*t after he's dead. Bunch of f*cking lowlifes.

People will hail MJ as a legend long after that bug-eyed wretch has been forgotten.

I honestly never knew she existed, actually. Good for me, I guess. I hope she gets kicked by a mule.

But I'd really enjoy the opportunity to hit this asshole with a Hummer.
http://www.1010wins.com/-Jackson-Was-a-Pervert-/4742879

Wear your seatbelt when you get that chance, bro.

ThirdMarioBro
07-10-2009, 04:55 AM
Heh, I know of her because I once tried to be politically active, but since backed away. I tried to keep up with politics for the past two years, but aside from the issues that affect me directly (Net Neutrality), I've backed off. You'd be surprised just how much worrying about political issues can wreck your health and drive wedges between you and friends. World be damned. Friends and good health are more important.

XERO
07-10-2009, 05:09 AM
You'd be surprised just how much worrying about political issues can wreck your health and drive wedges between you and friends. World be damned. Friends and good health are more important.

Which is exactly why I never get politically involved in discussions. I just read and listen, but besides that, I typically avoid it when I can.

I'd rather have a good conversation about a flat tire than that. And trust me, it would be funny as hell. :P

ThirdMarioBro
07-10-2009, 05:14 AM
Yep. I can imagine it would be funny. :)

I'll be rotating MJ sigs for the rest of the Summer.

XERO
07-10-2009, 05:23 AM
Sweet. Now I can stare at them for more than 5 minutes this time. :)

And major props for the Al Sharpton quote. The man spoke the truth.

Type 97 Chi-ha
07-10-2009, 11:36 AM
Yeah, NOW they want to talk sh*t after he's dead. Bunch of f*cking lowlifes.



I honestly never knew she existed, actually. Good for me, I guess. I hope she gets kicked by a mule.



Wear your seatbelt when you get that chance, bro.

Oh, rumors that circulated that Michael Jackson was a pedophile have existed for decades. A number of people believe even now that he was.

Do I think so? I don't know. (Yes, that lawsuit he got recently was yet another example of the nuisance lawsuits he suffered over the years; he was sued falsely for plaigiarizing songs, fathering babies, etc. all without merit.) I admit I had believed it, but now I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was positively revealed that he wasn't.

Sewer Bull
07-10-2009, 12:55 PM
Was he ever officially charged with anything, for real?

Seriously, people pick on him even after his death just to feel better as human beings.

Cure
07-10-2009, 12:59 PM
So what would have been the point of this MJ resolution? I don't get it.

ThirdMarioBro
07-10-2009, 03:53 PM
It was just a harmless tribute thingy. She just decided to be a bitch about it. I guarantee you if it were an entertainer from the previous generation, there would have been no issue.

Machias Banshee
07-10-2009, 04:08 PM
The only way Pelosi would approve it was if there was a tax for every time you listened to an MJ song... :P



My concern at this point is Michael's kids. Biological or not, they are in for a very rough life from now on. After so many years of being sheltered from mass media, now they're being put in so many spotlights... probably fought over by every member of the family and whomever can claim a connection.

My hope would be that people would give them some privacy while they're going through so much trauma, but the way the media is, they're going to stalk and harrass those kids just to get their big scoop.

Type 97 Chi-ha
07-10-2009, 04:16 PM
All the accusations of Michael Jackson being a child molester may be completely false, as I said before. But I find it pointless to mention this to anyone else, because too many people are absolutely convinced he was, even if he never faced actual criminal charges for it (as far as I know.) Being a public figure has its big disadvantages too.

Unfortunately, MJ may be stuck with the label as a pedophile forever, even if it were conclusively proven he never was. Another sad example:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMartin_preschool_trial

These people were conclusively exonerated and the accuser proven to be a liar. But the damage has been done. :(

FlawedCoil82
07-10-2009, 10:45 PM
Well in today's society, anyone even accused of being a pedophile is looked at as being worse than any known serial killer. The search for them is nothing more than a modern day witchhunt. Even past murderers are able to get jobs easier than people accused of pedophilia. So all the good charity in the world that Michael did doesn't mean squat in today's terrified, paranoid world. It's quite sad actually, especially if he really wasn't guilty. But once youre accused of that crime, it's all over. You're done and viewed as far worse than any killer.
Jack

XERO
07-10-2009, 10:49 PM
I think it has a lot to do with jealousy, too.

Not only of what he allegedly did, but for the simple fact that he was a larger-than-life bonafide supernova (to hell with superstar).

They're just pissed because they'll never have the fame and publicity that Jackson had.

Actually, I take it back. He didn't have publicity and fame. He f*cking generated it.

ThirdMarioBro
07-11-2009, 12:49 AM
Well in today's society, anyone even accused of being a pedophile is looked at as being worse than any known serial killer. The search for them is nothing more than a modern day witchhunt. Even past murderers are able to get jobs easier than people accused of pedophilia. So all the good charity in the world that Michael did doesn't mean squat in today's terrified, paranoid world. It's quite sad actually, especially if he really wasn't guilty. But once youre accused of that crime, it's all over. You're done and viewed as far worse than any killer.
Jack

Yeah, for example: OJ Simpson double murdered his wife and got off free as a bird. Michael Jackson gets "accused" of pedophiliaby the uncle of a kid for the purpose to extort him of 22 million, and he gets branded for life by people who got their info from TV shows and "news" stations who love nothing more than hanging popular celebrities. Heck, the "trial" the second time around was a complete bullsh*t brigade. The Mom was a known con, and the kid gave bullsh*t testimony. Everybody knew it, but they just took pleasure in hanging him anyway.

Honestly, I don't think you'll see someone who was as pure of heart as MJ for a loooooong time. On Tuesday, Paris Jackson answered any and all questions the world should have ever had about that man.

The Stryker
07-11-2009, 01:00 AM
Yeah, for example: OJ Simpson double murdered his wife and got off free as a bird. Michael Jackson gets "accused" of pedophiliaby the uncle of a kid for the purpose to extort him of 22 million, and he gets branded for life by people who got their info from TV shows and "news" stations who love nothing more than hanging popular celebrities. Heck, the "trial" the second time around was a complete bullsh*t brigade. The Mom was a known con, and the kid gave bullsh*t testimony. Everybody knew it, but they just took pleasure in hanging him anyway.

Honestly, I don't think you'll see someone who was as pure of heart as MJ for a loooooong time. On Tuesday, Paris Jackson answered any and all questions the world should have ever had about that man.

Don't start on OJ. If you're going to give MJ the benefit of the doubt. Give the same to him. OJ got off and was still called a murderer despite not being convicted for it.

ThirdMarioBro
07-11-2009, 01:35 AM
Tuche' my friend. Tuche'.

Another MJ vs. Sonic 3 mix.

EkpJsMyYveg

Seriously, anybody who doubts he did that music is deaf. I gotta go through my collection and find the EGM where they claimed he was going to do it. I just wish Sega would come clean so everybody can know.

http://www.usmagazine.com/news/joe-jackson-michaels-kids-could-be-performers-2009107

Joe Jackson needs to be hurt. Badly. Thank God that man doesn't live with Katherine anymore.

Sewer Bull
07-11-2009, 03:34 AM
Don't start on OJ. If you're going to give MJ the benefit of the doubt. Give the same to him. OJ got off and was still called a murderer despite not being convicted for it.

As far as I remember, MJ didn't release a book titled "If I Did It - Confessions of the Child Molester", afterwards.

Not that it proves anything, sure, but it was a rather weak move after all that fuss.

ThirdMarioBro
07-11-2009, 04:40 AM
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/35002/New-Michael-Jackson-game-in-the-works

Okay, so the rumor was true. MJ had a new video game in the pipeline for release this year, but we have no clue what kind of game it is. Either way, he had already recorded dialog for it before his passing.

Don't care if it blows. I'm buying it.

XERO
07-11-2009, 04:51 AM
It's official. MJ was a gamer. 8)

I wonder if he rocked out the DDR pads...

Ra
07-11-2009, 09:08 PM
He would have been awesome at DDR. Did ya see how many dance mats the guy had? :P

Now this game has really peeked my interest. I wonder what they had planned?

ThirdMarioBro
07-11-2009, 10:09 PM
"Have" planned. Word is the project is going ahead.

The Stryker
07-12-2009, 01:02 AM
9pnCvZ-yBOs

ThirdMarioBro
07-12-2009, 01:47 AM
That game was just bleeding with win.

GK Punk
07-12-2009, 01:51 AM
I wonder if he rocked out the DDR pads...

The game would have just exploded out of excessive amounts of awesome.

And I must own like 2 or 3 Copies of SC5.

XERO
07-12-2009, 02:02 AM
The game would have just exploded out of excessive amounts of awesome.

They should make a DDR Michael Jackson edition. I'm just sayin'.

Ra
07-12-2009, 02:34 AM
Mm... they really should. Fingers crossed that they will...

That game was just bleeding with win.

Holy crap. Yes. Kinda reminds me of Bust-A-Groove in terms of style there.

I'm so checking this out when it hits the shelves.

Hannah
07-12-2009, 11:52 AM
I'm so checking this out when it hits the shelves.
It's an old game.

ThirdMarioBro
07-12-2009, 04:43 PM
Space Channel 5 came out in 1999.

GK Punk
07-12-2009, 08:58 PM
I can't believe that game is 10 years old.

XERO
07-12-2009, 10:06 PM
Given the subject matter, it was appropriate. :P

And I don't care what anyone says, he owned that movie.

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ThirdMarioBro
07-12-2009, 10:47 PM
I keep forgetting that damn movie is real.

XERO
07-12-2009, 11:32 PM
Face it, TMB... you can't win. :P

ThirdMarioBro
07-13-2009, 10:13 PM
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Little Susie, one of the most morbid yet beautiful songs ever written. Its like Michael was channeling one part Mozart, and one part Edgar Allen Poe. Beautiful, yet haunting.

XERO
07-13-2009, 10:31 PM
You know what's funny? I started getting into Edgar Allen Poe a couple of days before MJ died.

And now that you posted that, it creeps me out a little. But, the song is beautiful.

ThirdMarioBro
07-13-2009, 11:11 PM
Isn't it? I'm just into dark things. Honestly, a large percentage of MJ's music has dark overtones. I guess that's why his darker stuff appeals to me more.

XERO
07-13-2009, 11:18 PM
Dude... Thriller. :)

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
07-14-2009, 08:00 AM
My cousin, born 1980, was scared of Michael Jackson's Thriller music video back in the early 1980's.

XERO
07-14-2009, 04:46 PM
Yeah, who wasn't? The scariest part for me back then was the zombie coming out of the coffin tomb. I was more used to them coming out of the ground.

Man, that song never gets old.

ThirdMarioBro
07-15-2009, 04:35 AM
Freddie and Michael - There Must Be More To Life Than This.
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Now they're both gone. Damn.

XERO
07-15-2009, 04:44 AM
Man, you're putting up MJ stuff I never knew existed.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
07-15-2009, 12:36 PM
Yeah, who wasn't? The scariest part for me back then was the zombie coming out of the coffin tomb. I was more used to them coming out of the ground.

Man, that song never gets old.

They showed from TV in 1984 recently, and the program with music videos was moved to later in the evening that day because of that music video.

prophecy718
07-15-2009, 05:10 PM
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just released today after 25 years

Ninjinister
07-15-2009, 05:52 PM
I've been listening to Sonic 3/MJ mashups all afternoon. There's actually a couple I like better with the overlying Sonic 3 music, like Stranger in Moscow.

sdp
05-01-2026, 12:52 PM
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Andrew NDB
05-01-2026, 12:54 PM
Do you guys all think MJ was guilty of kid-fiddling? I have no doubts he probably did things that the parents probably wouldn't have approved of to at times look "Cool" to the kids going to his ranch and all, but I've not really seen any compelling evidence of anything sexual from his accusers. Which isn't to say he wasn't a really, really weird dude.

Also, large parts of that "expose" documentary have been dismantled since its release but people seem to mostly pretend that isn't the case.

sdp
05-01-2026, 12:57 PM
Isn't it funny how he wasn't on the list where every other big powerful person was, and he frequently said how the elite were conspiring against him?

Also I know this will come off wrong but I don't know how to say it otherwise but anyone else just likes white Michael Jackson's songs? I don't care for his black era.

Andrew NDB
05-01-2026, 01:17 PM
Isn't it funny how he wasn't on the list where every other big powerful person was, and he frequently said how the elite were conspiring against him?

I do, and there might be something to that. But mostly I think it's people smelling the blood in the water over the passing years. Whether its accusers smelling a payday or hacks smelling a con$piracy they can market and sell.

Also I know this will come off wrong but I don't know how to say it otherwise but anyone else just likes white Michael Jackson's songs? I don't care for his black era.

I'm by no means a huge fan of his but I think there's gems in all eras of his work. Even from his final album.

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Mayhem
05-01-2026, 02:49 PM
At the time, it seemed very suss. With time and hindsight, I think it’s clearer that things were weird but not necessarily anything illegal happened,

CyberCubed
05-01-2026, 05:20 PM
:( I hope Mike's ok

This makes me sick... I really don't wanna hear ****** Michael jokes tomorrow at work.

2009 era ToTheNines are you alright?

XERO
05-01-2026, 09:42 PM
So... who saw the movie?

ToTheNines
05-02-2026, 06:38 AM
2009 era ToTheNines are you alright?

lol, yo I was going through it!

I had just started actually listening to MJ in like 2008. I was still in high school and had made a friend who was into the same kind of music as me. We would always bond over underground rap and other weird music. One day he was signing Billie Jean or something in class and I more or less called him gay lol.

He recommended all the great deep cuts and I was hooked! Hated to see him go so soon after me getting into his music.

Here’s a great lesser-known song from his later work:

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frank_one
05-02-2026, 09:14 AM
I miss his music.

Barkworm
05-03-2026, 10:02 AM
I have been listening to his music a lot lately and man, he was so incredibly talented. But often creative genius is fueled or even created by emotional trauma and his childhood was absolutely ****ed up.

Whether or not he became a pedophile because of that... It wouldn't take a big stretch of imagination to suppose that a guy who openly admitted to sharing a bed with his underage guests would actually be a sex pervert although it does strongly contradict the genuine vibe of innocence he gave off all his life. Like, does anyone remember that part in the famous Oprah interview where she asked him whether he was still a virgin and he just gets really defensive and embarrassed? And he was 34 then and the biggest popstar of all time.

I've never watched the "Leaving Neverland" documentary but to my knowledge, there has never been any actual evidence for all the accusations. Which doesn't prove his innocence, of course but I think of myself as someone who understands people really well and to me, he primarily came across as someone deeply troubled and weird - but not malicious.

ZariusTwo
05-03-2026, 11:41 AM
He shouldn't have done what he did with those kids, because they had to grow up and he couldn't/wouldn't due to his own childhood being as traumatic and brutal as it was.

They live with the stigma of being associated with him at a time of real scrutiny, and having to survive in the shadow of it years in between the trials and his eventual passing.

I can't blame them for trying to pin a tail on him. They could be exaggerating or lying, but the pain is real, the anger is real.

Jackson spoke truth to power many times too, of which I do not fault, it's just whenever someone challenges the establishments, they tend to get snakebit.

His music is forever, I will always cherish that, but this is, as he would sing about, is 'human nature'

ToTheNines
05-05-2026, 12:40 PM
I also don’t believe MJ did anything sinister. Weird, yes. But I don’t think he hurt anyone and pretty much all of his accusations have been exposed as money grabs.

Short version of how it started. Michael was helped by a tow-truck driver one night who was thrilled to meet him and told him his wife and step-son were also big fans. Michael ended up befriending the whole family, especially the son, Jordy.

When the biological dad (Evan Chandler, look him up. He was almost six figures behind on child support at the time.) found out Jordy had stayed the night, he decided to go after Michael’s money. Got a drugged confession out of the kid, who eventually recanted. Here’s some recorded phone calls showing the dad’s intentions:

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WITCH HUNT! TERRIBLE!