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sdp
07-09-2009, 09:34 PM
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Episode #5 Hot Rodding Teenagers from Dimension X
Original Ar Date: December 31, 1987


Shredder opens the portal to Dimension X for the first time. Three teenage kids known as Neutrinos and two of Krang's stone warriors emerge. The turtles befriend the teens, but before long the two stone warriors set up a special weather making device that causes trouble.

Episode Synopsis and other info
(http://www.ninjaturtles.com/cartoon/guide/cart004.htm)
Discuss!

Cipher
07-09-2009, 11:35 PM
I like the fact that this was actually the fourth episode of the series. I thought that was really cool.

On a lesser note, it is possibly the single best animatied episode of anything with the TMNT name on it. The scene where the Rock Soldiers' missile blasts through the pizza parlor is gorgeous.

themaxonline
07-10-2009, 04:07 PM
Good scenes and touching moments, such as when the turtles and neutrinos discuss Krang's history and Dimension X, which is one of my favourite parts of this episode but I think as far as the first 5 go, this is my least favourite. Still ranks high on my list tho!

strawberryfields
07-11-2009, 12:58 AM
Good scenes and touching moments

Touching moments?

lul.


Man the car they drove was awesome, I wish it would've gotten an official release as a toy.

Kendamu
07-11-2009, 01:18 AM
I always found it kinda funny/interesting that when Leo cut the tank treads his sword was suddenly like 10 feet long. Other than that, though, that was one of the few episodes where the side door was actually used for the seat and gun and I always found that part to be kinda cool.

XERO
07-11-2009, 02:23 AM
'EAT HOT LEAD, TURKEYS!!!!'

'Nuff said.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
07-11-2009, 05:43 AM
But where did the neutrinos learn English, and how teenage life was on Earth in the 1950's and 1960's? Radio and television?

DonatelloDomeHead31
07-12-2009, 01:05 AM
The Funniest Scene (in my opinion) is when Donatello is hanging onto the Neutrino's car and gets his shell scrapped against the building. Later, Michaelangelo adds some turtle wax to it :lol:

The other funny scene was one that i mentioned in a thread on here. It's Leonardo playing an Arcade game while the Turtles hide out. Very rare, but funny Leonardo.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
07-12-2009, 03:19 AM
The other funny scene was one that i mentioned in a thread on here. It's Leonardo playing an Arcade game while the Turtles hide out. Very rare, but funny Leonardo.

You mean Michelangelo should play it?

DonatelloDomeHead31
07-12-2009, 10:40 PM
No, i'm just commenting on Leonardo's rare funny side in some of the episodes and this particular episode. In the original toon screencaps thread, Tone posted some images of Leonardo at his humorous self.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
07-13-2009, 07:52 AM
No, i'm just commenting on Leonardo's rare funny side in some of the episodes and this particular episode. In the original toon screencaps thread, Tone posted some images of Leonardo at his humorous self.

Isn't it in "April Gets in Dutch" Raphael says to Leonardo he said something fun.

Prowler
07-13-2009, 03:26 PM
Great episode, but it's probably my least favourite from season one, I never liked the Neutrinos.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
07-14-2009, 06:50 AM
Great episode, but it's probably my least favourite from season one, I never liked the Neutrinos.

They appeared in some later episodes too, but not many.

Prowler
07-14-2009, 02:32 PM
They appeared in some later episodes too, but not many.

Their most memorable is probably the second one, where Michelangelo and Kala had a crush on each other, which I've always found it to be a bit disturbing.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
07-15-2009, 11:32 AM
Their most memorable is probably the second one, where Michelangelo and Kala had a crush on each other, which I've always found it to be a bit disturbing.

Yes, and their comeback to Earth in season two.

Sage Ninja
07-15-2009, 12:46 PM
The whole time I was watching the episode that they featured the neutrinos I kept getting the impression that the writers intended some thing more with them than what was featured in the episode. Like I thought that the neutrinos was supposed to give a little more insight on Krang and what his tyranny was like, but they didn't really

maybe the writters had more to do with them and got denied at the last second. the whole neutrino episode seemed rather rushed to me.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
07-16-2009, 09:24 AM
Are the neutrinos an original TMNT idea, or parody from another science fiction story?

Prowler
07-16-2009, 02:47 PM
Yes, and their comeback to Earth in season two.
That's the episode I was talking about.

themaxonline
07-16-2009, 10:55 PM
The whole time I was watching the episode that they featured the neutrinos I kept getting the impression that the writers intended some thing more with them than what was featured in the episode. Like I thought that the neutrinos was supposed to give a little more insight on Krang and what his tyranny was like, but they didn't really

Yeah, it seems weird that such unimportant characters would be introduced within the first five episodes unless they were supposed to play a greater role later on that didn't quite work out.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
07-17-2009, 05:07 AM
I always found it kinda funny/interesting that when Leo cut the tank treads his sword was suddenly like 10 feet long. Other than that, though, that was one of the few episodes where the side door was actually used for the seat and gun and I always found that part to be kinda cool.

Another is "It Came from Beneath the Sewers" where Raphael fires upon the plant.

Prowler
07-17-2009, 10:37 AM
But where did the neutrinos learn English
The first thing aliens learn when they arrive on Earth is to speak English, you should know this already. :P

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
07-18-2009, 06:21 AM
The first thing aliens learn when they arrive on Earth is to speak English, you should know this already. :P

Yes, and it exists in almost every show.

Coola Yagami
07-18-2009, 08:01 AM
Too bad the show was for kids. Mikey never got to so much as kiss Kala. In the later CBS episodes they hardly acknowledged each other at all.

The Big Bad
09-19-2011, 05:55 AM
"Turtle Tracks" aside, this without a doubt my favorite episode of season 1. While the Neutrinos were never my favorite characters, the episode's uniformly sweet animation--the best in the series, even if "Turtle Tracks" has the better character models--helps it stand out. I also like the fact that the Rock Soldiers and Bebop and Rocksteady can't hit each other despite standing still at point-blank range, an achievement I don't think even Imperial Stormtroopers would achieve.

oldmanwinters
09-19-2011, 09:06 AM
I also like the fact that the Rock Soldiers and Bebop and Rocksteady can't hit each other despite standing still at point-blank range, an achievement I don't think even Imperial Stormtroopers would achieve.

It must be that their blasters weren't made for their large hands!

And, yes, this episode looked fantastic! I especially like the part where the turtles fly up to destroy the weather globe.

rufus
09-19-2011, 09:37 AM
And, yes, this episode looked fantastic! I especially like the part where the turtles fly up to destroy the weather globe.[/QUOTE]

One of my favorite moments in the 5 part miniseries. Always loved the animation effects in that scene.

Stingray69
09-19-2011, 10:34 AM
Man the car they drove was awesome, I wish it would've gotten an official release as a toy.

Are you sure they dint I could of swore they did.

Cryomancer
09-19-2011, 02:36 PM
Agreed on the earlier posts about the Neutrinos seeming more important that they really end up being. I think they probably should have just used the car instead of the portal devices that blow out, and just give it rare fuel or whatever to keep it from being used constantly.

Interesting, the anime/manga kind of fleshes out the concept of the Neutrinos. The mutastones and Crys-mu are legendary Neutrino deals found in ancient Neutrino temples etc. Krang is seeking them out specifically, it seems to be his motivation to attack them. They even bothered to draw the rulers as they appeared in that baby episode.

oldmanwinters
09-19-2011, 02:46 PM
Interesting, the anime/manga kind of fleshes out the concept of the Neutrinos. The mutastones and Crys-mu are legendary Neutrino deals found in ancient Neutrino temples etc. Krang is seeking them out specifically, it seems to be his motivation to attack them. They even bothered to draw the rulers as they appeared in that baby episode.

Hey, I like it, a convincing explanation for the MutaStones that not only fits with Fred Wolf continuity but actually illuminates the motivations of Krang and the Neutrinos!

Jester
09-19-2011, 03:07 PM
Good stuff: Tragg and Granitor
Bad stuff: Kala, Dask, and Zak. Oh and also the Weather Maker Satellite...so totally seemed like a last minute addition.

Jephael
09-19-2011, 04:24 PM
I love watching this episode whenever I'm feeling nostalgic!

oldmanwinters
09-19-2011, 07:51 PM
Interesting, the anime/manga kind of fleshes out the concept of the Neutrinos. The mutastones and Crys-mu are legendary Neutrino deals found in ancient Neutrino temples etc. Krang is seeking them out specifically, it seems to be his motivation to attack them. They even bothered to draw the rulers as they appeared in that baby episode.

I was just thinking... I wonder what the exact relationship the sacred Mutastones have to the retro-mutagen ooze. In Super Turtles #1, Krang says the mutastones are "mutagen in its purest, most concentrated form." (http://tmntentity.blogspot.com/2010/08/muta-13.html)Would it stand to reason that retro-mutagen ooze is a man-made concoction based on the properties of the mutastone, but obviously less pure and less concentrated?

The story possibilities for tying the Mutastones and mutagen were really interesting. If I was responsible for revamping the Old Toon universe, I'd definitely play on that undeveloped aspects. At least the Japanese deserve credit for digging deeper into the real secret of the ooze.

Cryomancer
09-20-2011, 12:53 AM
Honestly as we work on Super Turtles I'm really surprised at the detail sometimes because of the stuff like this. They must have watched quite a few episodes, or at least enough "major" ones to understand Dimension X and whatnot pretty well. I always bring up the Neutrino leaders because it really surprised me, as it means they watched at least somewhat up into season 4 before writing the issue, or at least were like "we need these people's leaders was that ever in an episode?" and looked it up. I wonder if they had a contact within the FW staff or had to just burn through them all themselves?

ssjup81
09-20-2011, 07:22 AM
I never thought much about the Neutrinos when I was a kid, and I guess it's due to the fact that I never remembered them being around much and remember them mostly because of their debut ep, but I had to have seen more because I remembered the whole Mikey/Kala thing. Go fig. I guess it's like how I am with Casey Jones for the OT series. I thought he was around a lot more than what I remembered.

As for this episode, I can't recall what I thought when seeing it as a kid, but watching it older, it sucks that we never got more backstory with them so that we could learn more about Krang in general and I also used to wonder as a kid why the Neutrinos just didn't stay with the Turtles since it's obviously more fun than living in Dimension X being hunted down by Rock Soldiers.

To me, the OT series failed in about three ways for me (looking back). Jokingly, not enough Casey Jones because he was just awesome to me as a kid and I still love the eps that featured him now.

Seriously, not enough on Shredder, Splinter, and Krang.

Why was Oroku Saki so obsessed with Hamato Yoshi to the point of following him to NY? He already got the guy banished from the country of Japan for trying to "kill" their "honorable sensei". (Am I the only one who laughed with the way that guy said "honorable sensei"? :tlol: ) Saki wanting to go after Yoshi made sense in the comics (avenging the death of his older brother at the hands of Yoshi). For the OT series, it never did to me.

How did Shredder even meet Krang and start up their partnership? Why was this never explained in the series?

What was Krang like/doing before he even met Shredder and how was he banished from Dimension X? What actions of his led to his being banished? Did Shredder meet him because of his being banished?

Anywho, the OT series could've gotten into some of those things and could've even done so through the Neutrinos, Shreeka, etc.

Jephael
09-20-2011, 03:12 PM
Why was Oroku Saki so obsessed with Hamato Yoshi to the point of following him to NY? He already got the guy banished from the country of Japan for trying to "kill" their "honorable sensei". (Am I the only one who laughed with the way that guy said "honorable sensei"? :tlol: )

It's possible Saki was worried Yoshi could find a way to prove that he framed him, hence why he kept an eye on him.

ssjup81
09-20-2011, 05:24 PM
It's possible Saki was worried Yoshi could find a way to prove that he framed him, hence why he kept an eye on him.
Okay, I'll go along with that. It's a plausible explanation, even though I honestly couldn't see how Yoshi could even prove his innocence with that one.

Xav
09-20-2011, 06:11 PM
Yeah, it seems weird that such unimportant characters would be introduced within the first five episodes unless they were supposed to play a greater role later on that didn't quite work out. Didn't they appear in a bunch more episodes?

CyberCubed
09-20-2011, 06:14 PM
Didn't they appear in a bunch more episodes?

The Neutrinos return quite a bit throughout the show. Their final appearance is in Season 7, where Krang turns them against the turtles.

MikeandRaph87
01-03-2012, 01:39 PM
Of the five episodes I really enjoyed "Hot Rodding Teenagers From Dimension X", "The Dimension X Story", and "Attack of The Neutrinos". The other two were so-so. It was more so the plots that surrounded them than the trio themselves. I was reading a lot of dislike of the trio of Neutrinos so I thought I would bump up the thread and see how this episode and they are recieved. I don't love them like I do other characters but I enjoy them if the plot that surrounds them is good.

Do you think David Wise has something in mind as to how Shredder and Krang first met and began thier partnership? I have always wondered that. It would be nice if he had a contact on the web somewhere to ask just that.

cammy85
01-03-2012, 04:42 PM
Of the five episodes I really enjoyed "Hot Rodding Teenagers From Dimension X", "The Dimension X Story", and "Attack of The Neutrinos". The other two were so-so. It was more so the plots that surrounded them than the trio themselves. I was reading a lot of dislike of the trio of Neutrinos so I thought I would bump up the thread and see how this episode and they are recieved. I don't love them like I do other characters but I enjoy them if the plot that surrounds them is good.

Do you think David Wise has something in mind as to how Shredder and Krang first met and began thier partnership? I have always wondered that. It would be nice if he had a contact on the web somewhere to ask just that.

I agree too. I never liked "The Grybyx" at all, and it was the only episode in the third season to feature the Neutrinos. "Hot Rodding" was the best. :)

I wonder how they partnered up too, or why, when Krang was banished to Earth, that they sent him in his heavily armed Technodrome as well? Not too bright! I guess Saki was spying on Yoshi in the sewers and was kidnapped by Krang. Saki begged for Krang's help and Krang gave him his armor, technologically enhanced Foot Soldiers and "experimental mutagen".

I also wonder why they never bothered to bring the Technodrome to the surface at all. Maybe Krang was waiting until he finally had a new body before doing so, then the Turtles interfered.

MikeandRaph87
01-03-2012, 05:21 PM
I agree too. I never liked "The Grybyx" at all, and it was the only episode in the third season to feature the Neutrinos. "Hot Rodding" was the best. :)

I wonder how they partnered up too, or why, when Krang was banished to Earth, that they sent him in his heavily armed Technodrome as well? Not too bright! I guess Saki was spying on Yoshi in the sewers and was kidnapped by Krang. Saki begged for Krang's help and Krang gave him his armor, technologically enhanced Foot Soldiers and "experimental mutagen".

I also wonder why they never bothered to bring the Technodrome to the surface at all. Maybe Krang was waiting until he finally had a new body before doing so, then the Turtles interfered.

As for the Grybyx episode it had convient plot points like Kala's pet becomes a predator when he eats. How else is the little guy going to live and be healthy? That didn't make much snese and doused with water and he reverts to normal? So food makes him big and scary and drink makes him revert.

I don't know about the kidnap part or giving him his armor. I always imagined Saki furnished that on his own,but the rest I agree with. I believe you are right in Krang biding his time with the Technodrome underground at the sewer level until Shredder did his end of their deal.

ZariusTwo
01-04-2012, 06:59 AM
Krang had to stay underground during the first season until he could complete the dimensional portal and summon reenforcements. This is established in "Hot Rodding Teenagers..."

Heck, one of the first things Krang did once he brought The Technodrome back to Earth in season two was go underground again, although that was mainly to begin the Earthquake attacks on the city, it made good tactical sense to keep a low profile and replenish their energies since it had worked so well for them in the first season.

cammy85
01-04-2012, 06:39 PM
Krang had to stay underground during the first season until he could complete the dimensional portal and summon reenforcements. This is established in "Hot Rodding Teenagers..."

Heck, one of the first things Krang did once he brought The Technodrome back to Earth in season two was go underground again, although that was mainly to begin the Earthquake attacks on the city, it made good tactical sense to keep a low profile and replenish their energies since it had worked so well for them in the first season.

Haha, once again you're right, Zarius. :) In the preceding episode "A Thing About Rats" he was in the mansion as well but I can ignore that.

TMNT_2010
01-04-2012, 06:40 PM
This is my least favourite episode from the first season. It feels like it was just made so they could have enough episodes for a whole week. The things that happen in it aren't really important to the story and I find it to be boring actually.

I actually like the Neutrino characters but I hate all the episodes that they appear in.

CyberCubed
01-04-2012, 07:12 PM
This is my least favourite episode from the first season. It feels like it was just made so they could have enough episodes for a whole week. The things that happen in it aren't really important to the story and I find it to be boring actually.

I actually like the Neutrino characters but I hate all the episodes that they appear in.

This episode establishes Dimension X, General Traag and the Rock Soldiers. How is it not important?

TMNT_2010
01-04-2012, 07:24 PM
This episode establishes Dimension X, General Traag and the Rock Soldiers. How is it not important?

But then they are just dropped. If you look at the continuity of that first season this episode just doesn't fit. The other 4 all feel like they belong together, this one not so much.

MikeandRaph87
01-04-2012, 07:34 PM
But then they are just dropped. If you look at the continuity of that first season this episode just doesn't fit. The other 4 all feel like they belong together, this one not so much.

General Traag and rock soldiers appear in "The Shredder Is Splinter'd" after he appears alongside Lt. Grantior so it has to take place before this episode. Also, it has to take place after "A Thing About Rats" which Krang references his failure to eliminate Splinter with robots in "Hot Rodding Teenagers From Dimension X". It fits perfectly!

Coola Yagami
01-04-2012, 09:58 PM
No, they all had importance.

The first ep introduced the characters and gave the general backstory and origin and jazz.
The second featured more of the Technodrome, Krang and mutated Bebop and Rocksteady
The third had Mike encounter Krang, as well as have the workshop where Don would get the Van and Blimp from.
The 4th would introduce more about Dimension X, the Stone Warriors, and the dimensional portal, plus the rest of the gang sees Krang
the final, would of course wrap everything up as we see Kran'g plans to invade Earth, and then have them all be sucked into Dimension X.

sdp
01-04-2012, 10:12 PM
I agree with TMNT_2010 completely on this.

This is my least favourite episode from the first season. It feels like it was just made so they could have enough episodes for a whole week. The things that happen in it aren't really important to the story and I find it to be boring actually.

I actually like the Neutrino characters but I hate all the episodes that they appear in.

CyberCubed
01-04-2012, 10:41 PM
But then they are just dropped. If you look at the continuity of that first season this episode just doesn't fit. The other 4 all feel like they belong together, this one not so much.

What in the world? We see General Traag and the Rock Soldiers in the finale of the season marching through the portal.

On top of that virtually every season has a Dimension X themed story and General Traag/Rock Soldiers reappear throughout the show. I could never find any Season 1 episode boring, and I always loved the part where they go after the Neutrinos both inside and out of the Technodrome.

sdp
01-05-2012, 11:16 PM
The characters became regular recurring characters and somewhat semi-important though really the rocksoldiers never got a time to shine from what I've seen. But how can you look at the 5 part pilot and say it belongs there, it feels clearly out of place, all the other episodes have some clear connection/arc going on. They obviously connected it but it doesn't fit like the other episodes do.

CyberCubed
01-05-2012, 11:32 PM
The characters became regular recurring characters and somewhat semi-important though really the rocksoldiers never got a time to shine from what I've seen. But how can you look at the 5 part pilot and say it belongs there, it feels clearly out of place, all the other episodes have some clear connection/arc going on. They obviously connected it but it doesn't fit like the other episodes do.

It belongs there because it establishes where Krang comes from and why he's a warlord.

Killer Moth
03-23-2012, 03:16 PM
When compared to the past three episodes, the episode comes off as surprisingly straightforward, albeit with bizarrely-designed guest characters. It would have to be, with the Turtles becoming aware of Krang's existence. It also would establish the tropes that would be with the series until the Red Sky era.

One example would be the first line of villain dialogue in the episode has Krang outright insulting Shredder, and in turn Shredder insults Bebop and Rocksteady once again.

...

I'll go ahead and do my mini-rant, so skip the next paragraph underneath the Spoiler tag if it isn't your cup of tea:

It is a personal pet peeve, as why do writers think villains or characters insulting one another constantly is funny? It's one thing when the characters are in equal standing, or semi-equal as shown in the mini-series. And yet, the constant stream of verbal abuse is rather irritating whenever Baxter comes along as Shredder's assistant and the two punks fully become the comedic relief man-children we all grew up with. No wonder Baxter did what he did in "Curse of the Evil Eye."

Or the better question in later seasons is "why didn't Shredder, Krang and the two punks just disband, if they all did is to insult or to be insulted?"

Granted, Shredder started the insulting trend from the first episode on, but this episode is where it becomes the most prominent among all the antagonists in Season 1. Speaking of which, it's curious how the first villain scene began with Krang speaking to Shredder in front of Bebop and Rocksteady. Which begs the question from "Enter the Shredder": were the punks aware of Krang's existence? Or, did Krang finally deign to reveal himself to the punks in between "A Thing About Rats" and this episode? It doesn't much matter, except it's a puzzling detail, especially if one ignores off-camera events. The likely explanation could be a plothole, or Wise dedicing not to flesh out such an introduction for time or pacing reasons.

On a slightly more positive example, the episode appears to be the origin of the running gag line, "I thought we were weird-looking." As said by Bebop and to be said many times over (by Dirtbag and others). Which should make for a cute trivia question, should anyone want to view it that way.

I'll focus on the Turtles, the Neutrinos and the Stone Warriors in the next post. I figured to start with the main villains, as it is the most villain-centric episode of Season 1, so far.

Neutrino
03-27-2013, 05:32 PM
But then they are just dropped. If you look at the continuity of that first season this episode just doesn't fit. The other 4 all feel like they belong together, this one not so much.

They had the Starcruiser in the following episodes. I really love this episode it is probably my favorite. I agree the animation is breath taking!

Tora
08-04-2014, 11:03 AM
Anyone ever wonder what became of the other Punk Mutants? I know thw bat got changed back but I wonder what became of the Dog, Snake and the Mole Rat thing?!?


http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140330224449/tmnt/images/7/71/Gang.jpg

blindturtle02
08-04-2014, 11:17 AM
Anyone ever wonder what became of the other Punk Mutants? I know thw bat got changed back but I wonder what became of the Dog, Snake and the Mole Rat thing?!?


http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140330224449/tmnt/images/7/71/Gang.jpg

Good question! I got nothin though. I guess they could have started some sort of recently mutated punks support hotline. They must have raked in allot of cash and moved out of NYC. Or those cyberpunks from season 2 might have killed and eaten them. Huh, wonder what mutant snake tastes like? Gotta be better than some of those weird pizza toppings!

rickwj324
08-05-2014, 02:37 PM
The first thing aliens learn when they arrive on Earth is to speak English, you should know this already. :P

Or they just borrow a 'universal translator' from Starfleet. :P

DarkFell
08-31-2014, 02:53 AM
Good question! I got nothin though. I guess they could have started some sort of recently mutated punks support hotline. They must have raked in allot of cash and moved out of NYC. Or those cyberpunks from season 2 might have killed and eaten them. Huh, wonder what mutant snake tastes like? Gotta be better than some of those weird pizza toppings!

Last I saw of the other mutants, they were locked up. Rewatch The Shredder is Splintered towards the end before The Rock Soldiers march out into the control room and start firing at The Turtles, the mutated punks do a 'final farewell' while being locked up in a cell in the control room.

BlindFaith
11-22-2014, 02:35 PM
On a lesser note, it is possibly the single best animatied episode of anything with the TMNT name on it. The scene where the Rock Soldiers' missile blasts through the pizza parlor is gorgeous.

Very much this. This was my favorite scene in this episode as well :tsmile: Excellent animation! Those eyeball missiles smashing through the windows and the subsequent fight with the Rock Soldiers.

Overall, perhaps there was a bit too much going on in this episode. I understand that they wanted to give some back story information on Krang but the introduction of Dimension X and some new, (very colorful!) characters sort of breaks with the intimate setting and story-line of following the Turtles and April around in the big city looking for the Shredder!

oldmanwinters
11-22-2014, 03:34 PM
Very much this. This was my favorite scene in this episode as well :tsmile: Excellent animation! Those eyeball missiles smashing through the windows and the subsequent fight with the Rock Soldiers.

Overall, perhaps there was a bit too much going on in this episode. I understand that they wanted to give some back story information on Krang but the introduction of Dimension X and some new, (very colorful!) characters sort of breaks with the intimate setting and story-line of following the Turtles and April around in the big city looking for the Shredder!

When Random House adapted the pilot season episodes in their coloring book series, they skipped "Hot Rodding Teenagers" completely but gave the other four episodes a 48-page book each. Maybe you're onto something about there being TOO much craziness in that episode!

BlindFaith
11-22-2014, 08:53 PM
When Random House adapted the pilot season episodes in their coloring book series, they skipped "Hot Rodding Teenagers" completely but gave the other four episodes a 48-page book each. Maybe you're onto something about there being TOO much craziness in that episode!

That's interesting, thanks for sharing oldmanwinters!

I was thinking...since this is the pilot season. Perhaps the writers wanted to have more directions to pull the show in and thus expanding the show ( by introducing more characters and possible story lines) So introducing Dimension X for example was a way to show the network that the series had endless possibilities and could be made into a franchise. They didn't want to narrow themselves down to "just" being Turtles vs Shredder...but wanted to show that, "we have many ideas with this show"...:tsmile: Or am I just being captain obvious now? :tgrin:

oldmanwinters
11-24-2014, 11:04 AM
That's interesting, thanks for sharing oldmanwinters!

I was thinking...since this is the pilot season. Perhaps the writers wanted to have more directions to pull the show in and thus expanding the show ( by introducing more characters and possible story lines) So introducing Dimension X for example was a way to show the network that the series had endless possibilities and could be made into a franchise. They didn't want to narrow themselves down to "just" being Turtles vs Shredder...but wanted to show that, "we have many ideas with this show"...:tsmile: Or am I just being captain obvious now? :tgrin:

In an interview with David Wise, he described his pilot season plot structure as "Peeling back the layers of an onion" where each successive episode ties up a loose string of the previous episode. So, in Enter the Shredder we learn how Shredder obtained his space age technology (partnering with Krang) while in Hot Roddin' Teens we get to see where Krang came from and what his home dimension was like.

Linkage
11-29-2014, 12:25 PM
Forgot about the Neutrinos, love this episode.