Rambo 5

[Hordak]

Always excited about Rambo movies especially after the last one but a little nervous after reading this & hearing about the direction they are going...:

Stallone has owned the film rights to the novel "Hunter" by James Byron Huggins for about 10 years, and it looks like he's adapting that book as the next "Rambo" film. Here's the synopsis for the newly-titled Rambo 5: The Savage Hunt:

John Rambo could track anyone - or anything - on earth. Now the military desperately needs him for a mission that his ultrasensitive instincts tell him he should refuse. A beast is loose somewhere north of the Artic Circle. It has already decimated a secret research facility and annihilated a squad of elite military guards. And the raging creature is headed south toward civilization, ready to wreak bloody devastation.

It's a job that Rambo and his 22-year-old hunting partner, Beau Brady, can't turn down, but they and a team of highly-skilled special forces kill team discover that the prey is a terror beyond their wildest imagination - a half-human abomination created by a renegade agency through a series of outlawed genetic experiments. It has man's cunning, a predator's savageness, and a prehistoric power that has transcended the ages. And even if Rambo and Beau survive its unrelenting hunger for human blood, they'll still have to contront the grim reality that it may have grown immortal.

I liked the original rumored plot line about him fighting people traffickers & drug lords looking for a kidnapped girl at the Mexican boarder.

[Brodie]

This is the most insane thing I've heard in a long time.

Why would Rambo go from unrelenting-gorefest realistic scenario (last film) and jump to what sounds like a storyline in a Wolverine book?

[Ninjinister]

Stallone has owned the film rights to the novel "Hunter" by James Byron Huggins for about 10 years, and it looks like he's adapting that book as the next "Rambo" film. Here's the synopsis for the newly-titled Rambo 5: The Savage Hunt:

John Rambo could track anyone - or anything - on earth. Now the military desperately needs him for a mission that his ultrasensitive instincts tell him he should refuse. A beast is loose somewhere north of the Artic Circle. It has already decimated a secret research facility and annihilated a squad of elite military guards. And the raging creature is headed south toward civilization, ready to wreak bloody devastation.

It's a job that Rambo and his 22-year-old hunting partner, Beau Brady, can't turn down, but they and a team of highly-skilled special forces kill team discover that the prey is a terror beyond their wildest imagination - a half-human abomination created by a renegade agency through a series of outlawed genetic experiments. It has man's cunning, a predator's savageness, and a prehistoric power that has transcended the ages. And even if Rambo and Beau survive its unrelenting hunger for human blood, they'll still have to contront the grim reality that it may have grown immortal.


I seem to be saying this a lot these days:

".......What?"

[Raph's Girl]

Rambo vs Predator.....

Eh why not...there's an upcoming Robin Hood movie where Robin fights a monster.... :roll:

[Roland]

Rambo vs Predator.

Reminds me of the contra games. But i think it can rock. Maybe if rambo finds out there is whole swarm of predators and gets attack by more than one this might get really interesting.

[Magneto]

Seems like they are 'jumping the shark' so to speak with some of the details concerning this storyline, but I do like how it's essentially bringing things full circle where Rambo is now the hunter, and not the hunted. Which was the case in, First Blood.

[Dan]

If Stallone wants to do a Sci-Fi film why put Rambo in it?

[Raph's Girl]

If Stallone wants to do a Sci-Fi film why put Rambo in it?

Cuz he only has 2 characters. Rocky and Rambo....and Rocky fighting monsters would be just plain up the wall....Unless....he like gets abducted and has to do boxing matches in space and stuff....

[Cure]

Cuz he only has 2 characters. Rocky and Rambo....and Rocky fighting monsters would be just plain up the wall....Unless....he like gets abducted and has to do boxing matches in space and stuff....

I'm pretty sure that was a rhetorical question.

[Hordak]

He should have just made this seprate from the Rambo series then maybe I would be excited about it like his upcoming The Expendables film. I will probably check it out but even my wife was like, wtf? That doesn't sound like Rambo!

[Spitfire]

All these years later and he's still trying to rip off Arnold.

[Hordak]

A little more info that surfaced today I found on a site,
"Monster news (pun intended) hit AICN this morning as they received (and posted) a voicemail from Sylvester Stallone who clarified the villain in his forthcoming fifth Rambo film, currently titled Rambo V: The Savage Hunt. While it was originally reported there would be super soldiers like in Universal Soldier, Stallone clarifies, "It's actually a feral beast, a thing, it's this an amalgamation of fury and intelligence and pure unadulterated rage. Its before men became human." He continues, "[It's] Your worst nightmare... you're battling your primitive self." It looks like we'll have a reason to cover this one. Seriously though, how awesome will this be if it's as bloody as the fourth Rambo? BRING IT!"

Sounds like Rambo vs Predator to me in a way! Lol! I still see it cause I like Stallone & Rambo. Spitfire did you hear Arnold was making a cameo in Stallone's new The Expendables movie?

[Spitfire]

Yeah along with every other action movie star for the past 15 years. That movie I'm looking forward to seeing just because of how ludicrous the cast is.

[Hordak]

Yea it pretty crazy! Stone Cold, Jason Statham, Jet Li, Rourke, & Dolph Lundgren is back! I can't believe Steven Segal(I think he was approached) & Jean Claude Van Dam turned it down! What are they doing? Both are direct to DVD kings now! lol! And Wesley Snipes too cause I think they asked him as well!

[Andrew NDB]

You can listen to Stallone talking about it himself here:
http://www.aintitcool.com/images2009/Rambo5SlyVoiceMail.mov

People seem to be ignoring the underlying subtext of what he's saying. It seems pretty clear to me: Rambo isn't hunting some monster, or some rogue dude... the monster he's hunting is himself.

He's been a ticking time bomb since the first movie. A split personality/Jeckyll & Hyde type of thing would work.

[Hordak]

I don't know bro, he says ""It's actually a feral beast, a thing, it's this an amalgamation of fury and intelligence and pure unadulterated rage. Its before men became human." sounds like a monster thing to me. Maybe it has some Rambo DNA in it since it might have been made by the government & Rambo is the best at what he does.

[Brodie]

With what you just quoted Hordak, that sounds more like Andrew is right. It makes it sound like Rambo is sent to hunt this feral beast, and "before men became human" specifically sounds like it is infact a man. The term "human" just makes it sound like they mean "men before they had a consence/compassion/thought/etc."

You dig?

[Magneto]

Whatever this "Beast" is unveiled to be, it sounds like there will be many parallels drawn between this, and what Rambo's experience was in First Blood. Which I think can work on a number of levels and bring the series completely full circle.

[discordiatookie]

I personally think that this sounds awesome!

Even better would be Rambo vs Dutch.

And as for Stallone only having two characters: Cobra. That is one cool mutha right there.

[Hordak]

Yea I follow. And only time will tell! But Dutch vs Rambo, yeah that would be cool! And Cobra was bad***!

[Andrew NDB]

Whatever this "Beast" is unveiled to be, it sounds like there will be many parallels drawn between this, and what Rambo's experience was in First Blood. Which I think can work on a number of levels and bring the series completely full circle.

What I hope is that this is actually part prequel. Could be way off base here, but it sounds like it might go something like this:

Rambo is tracking a feral killer throughout the wilderness of the Pacific Northwest, hot on his trail... but always coming up just a little bit behind his trail. He finds bodies torn apart, gore, etc., as he continues to follow the trail. All the while he's having flashbacks to his years as a young man fighting in the Vietnam War after being trained by Trautman to be an invincible killing machine (I'm not a big prequel advocate, but with the few quick glimpses we got in "First Blood" of these years, I'd be fascinated to see Rambo: The Nam Years)... and then Rambo in the present is having blackouts with these flashbacks.

In the end he finds out the killer he's been chasing has been him the whole time. Might end in the suicide the first film omitted.

[Dan]

There is no way Stallone would kill off Rambo.

[Andrew NDB]

Maybe "Last Blood" will happen after all...

https://kbrocking.com/2017/10/20/did-sly-stallone-just-confirm-rambo-5-is-happening-maybe/

[Andrew NDB]

YAY! It's shooting in September.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/rambo-5-is-rambo-vs-mexican-cartels/

http://www.darkhorizons.com/more-details-on-fifth-rambo-shoot/

[CyberCubed]

So a 71 year old Rambo is going to go shooting up Mexican drug cartels and killing 100 drug dealers looking for his half sister. Sounds legit.

[joe-eyeball]

I can understand people criticizing the story and acting in these movies except for First Blood that movie is great, but I still can’t understand why people think it’s ridiculous that Sly, at his age is making these movies. I mean physically he can still pull it off better than most half his age. I think it’s incredible what he has done physically on screen over the last ten years. Truly remarkable! I say bring it on Sly! Also I think the fourth Rambo movie was pretty badass!

[Andrew NDB]

http://www.darkhorizons.com/expendables-4-rambo-5-moving-forward/

Crap... there's tons of Chinese money tied up in this movie also.

[Wildcat]

^ Dude again? :lol: Ok I’m starting to think you’re just complaining sarcastically or something about these Chinese agreements.

You know they’re not gonna end up however you think. Rambo 5 is about the Mexican cartel after all.

[Andrew NDB]

^ Dude again? :lol: Ok I’m starting to think you’re just complaining sarcastically or something about these Chinese agreements.

You know they’re not gonna end up however you think.

So far, the number of sequels to big American franchise movies being poured serious Chinese money into... end up PG-13 with a ton of Chinese content and a side of anti-Japanese sentiment, are about 100 to 1. And also dumbed down into very simple, very straight-forward, easily digestible things.

This is a relatively new thing. But the end result always seems the same.

Rambo 5 is about the Mexican cartel after all.

It appears to be. But let's see who he "teams up with" and how watered down it all becomes now.

Hopefully Stallone will insulate this from that. But we shall see. Maybe he was like, "OK, I'll do Escape Plan 2 and 3... but you f***ers better fund Rambo 5 proper and you leave that one alone! Put it in the contract!" But... then again he did do a PG-13 Expendables 3, which he promised he would never.

[Wildcat]

I don’t even know what to say anymore. I just find it funny that you’re keeping an eye out to see who finances these movies (if it genuinely bothers you).

There’s probably plenty of Chinese or other things slipped into movies that have nothing to do with who finances. You don’t think anything of it...why can’t you do the same with these? Just because you read who the companies are?

I honestly do not care if there’s Chinese characters or nods in this or Terminator. We know what the focus and actual movies are going to be about.

[Andrew NDB]

Pics have been being posted by Sly on his Instagram from the filming of the movie.

https://deadline.com/2018/10/rambo-sylvester-stallone-offer-first-look-photos-rambo-5-1202475306/

Looks fantastic! And the title is officially "Last Blood."

[TigerClaw]

Pics have been being posted by Sly on his Instagram from the filming of the movie.

https://deadline.com/2018/10/rambo-sylvester-stallone-offer-first-look-photos-rambo-5-1202475306/

Looks fantastic! And the title is officially "Last Blood."
Here's a new one that got posted recently.
https://twitter.com/Lionsgate/status/1058042034072637440

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dq7rkc5VYAA8De6.jpg:small

[Andrew NDB]

Filming wraps:
http://www.darkhorizons.com/filming-wraps-on-rambo-5-says-sly/

[XERO]

Here's a new one that got posted recently.
https://twitter.com/Lionsgate/status/1058042034072637440

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dq7rkc5VYAA8De6.jpg:small

Red Dead Rambo? Haha.

[RaphaelinSTL]

Excited for this one! So far "Glass", Lars von Trier's "The House that Jack Built", Gaspar Noe's "Climax" and this are my most anticipated for 2019.

[Andrew NDB]

It is seldom I geek out without remorse. But this is one time that I do.

This is awesome beyond all comprehension. Rambo vs. The cartel.

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[Wildcat]

I saw it yesterday. It does look awesome.

Phew, didn’t see any Chinese nods in this or Terminator...just kidding :)

[Mayhem]

Seems like it might be set up akin to First Blood, just instead of police, its Mexican cartels. Hoping it is a fitting end to the series!

[Andrew NDB]

Seems like it might be set up akin to First Blood, just instead of police, its Mexican cartels. Hoping it is a fitting end to the series!

Sounds like his adoptive granddaughter gets abducted into human trafficking by the cartel and Rambo goes to Mexico to wipe out the lot of them... and Stallone has strongly implied it will be a one way trip.

It is going to be beautiful...

[Wildcat]

One way? Is that implying Rambo dies? I really, really, really hope not.

No reason to kill off the character entirely.

[Andrew NDB]

One way? Is that implying Rambo dies? I really, really, really hope not.

No reason to kill off the character entirely.

There's every reason to. He died in the book this was all based off of. Every movie after the first one has been a delayed execution.

[Wildcat]

Ah shoot. I never read the book but I hate when the hero get killed off or worse sacrifice themselves.

I understand it’s for dramatic effect but a movie or story can always be written around it. Especially this character. His whole thing is being unstoppable.

Part 4 was supposedly the last movie at the time and they kept him alive.

[Voltron]

I heard in this one, we find out that Rambo's REAL name is Huang Po and that he's been a dual citizen and firm supporter of the CCP his entire life. Also, he does a duet with Jackie Chan.


The movie will be subtitled in English for us.

[Andrew NDB]

The trailer, proper now:

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[Autbot_Benz]

The trailer, proper now:

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Kinda get a Logan Vibe from this. Interesting Trailer

[Andrew NDB]

The director "hopes" this will be the last one. That means Rambo doesn't die in it, despite Stallone strongly alluding he does. Probably this is misdirection.

https://zeenews.india.com/hollywood/rambo-last-blood-ends-franchise-on-satisfying-note-director-2226133.html

[Andrew NDB]

New trailer:

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[Andrew NDB]

As predicted, left wing critics are attacking "Last Blood" because Rambo goes after a Mexican cartel.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/sylvester-stallones-rambo-last-blood-is-a-trumpian-anti-mexican-nightmare

And it's stereotypical to have cartel members with tattoos? What? It would be weirder if they didn't have tattoos.

Another one:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/sep/19/rambo-last-blood-review

"Trumpian fantasy."

[oldmanwinters]

As predicted, left wing critics are attacking "Last Blood" because Rambo goes after a Mexican cartel.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/sylvester-stallones-rambo-last-blood-is-a-trumpian-anti-mexican-nightmare

Sheesh, I'll say, it's hard to find many comments specifically on the movie's flaws or merits while digging through all the politically-charged rhetoric about the movie's choice for antagonists:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/movies/2019/09/19/rambo-last-blood-reviews-sylvester-stallone-return-joyless-grind/2379211001/

[Andrew NDB]

So, so retarded. Did the Mexican cartels carving up families and melting them in vats of acid (the videos are not hard to find, and there's always new ones) when they're not too busy human trafficking suddenly become less evil because we're in the middle of a border crisis?

[Autbot_Benz]

First Blood Author David Morrell hates this movie

_DavidMorrell
@_DavidMorrell
I agree with these RAMBO: LAST BLOOD reviews. The film is a mess. Embarrassed to have my name associated with it.
https://usatoday.com/story/entertai

[oldmanwinters]

First Blood Author David Morrell hates this movie

_DavidMorrell
@_DavidMorrell
I agree with these RAMBO: LAST BLOOD reviews. The film is a mess. Embarrassed to have my name associated with it.
https://usatoday.com/story/entertai

I always figured he held the same opinion about everything after First Blood. His commentary track on the first film DVD is very insightful. You can tell he has a begrudging respect for Stallone's movie franchise's success, even if it came at the expense of his original vision.

Doesn't surprise me that yet another "old Rambo" film would disgust him, especially if he holds similar political opinions as many of the reviews cited.

[Xav]

David Morrell did say he liked the director's cut of part 4. He actually did work on the story of Rambo 5 with Stallone but the producers wanted to do a movie about human trafficking. Here's his full comment.
Disappointed in RAMBO: LAST BLOOD (to put it mildly). NEWSWEEK asked my reaction. These are the ones I sent to that magazine.

"My problems with RAMBO: LAST BLOOD are twofold.

"One is that I felt degraded and dehumanized after I left the theater. In 2016 Sly and I had numerous lengthy telephone conversations about creating what he described as a “soulful” Rambo. Then he stopped communicating with me. One element of our conversations is in the new film (the search for the missing child as an example of the family he never had), but instead of being soulful, this new movie lacks one. I felt I was less a human being for having seen it, and today that’s an unfortunate message.

"On a second level—that of storytelling instead of theme—the film is a mess, resembling a 1976 James Mitchum (Robert Mitchum’s son) film called TRACKDOWN, which has almost the same plot, in which a Montana rancher gets even with sex traffickers (in this case in Los Angeles), who have kidnapped a young female relative. That film is typical of ultra-violent 1970s exploitation “grindhouse” films, the technique of which RAMBO: LAST BLOOD resembles. The sets here look cheap. The direction is awkward. The script is filled with explanatory dialogue (“she was like the family I never had” or words to that effect—we get it—explanation not required, and this from an actor/writer who prides himself on communicating visually rather than through unnecessary words). The music has that droning synthetic sound that TV dramas use to support needless, tedious dialogue. The characters are post-it-note caricatures. Rambo could be called John Smith, and the film wouldn’t change. It assumes the audience is familiar with Rambo’s background whereas anyone under 40 will wonder what on earth is going on with those tunnels. From multiple perspective, this film fails miserably. The best I can say is that the first two minutes were promising."
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=187167388040595&story_fbid=2431450953612216/

[Sumac]

So, so retarded. Did the Mexican cartels carving up families and melting them in vats of acid (the videos are not hard to find, and there's always new ones) when they're not too busy human trafficking suddenly become less evil because we're in the middle of a border crisis?
If they are not white, then they can not be evil. :roll:

[oldmanwinters]

David Morrell did say he liked the director's cut of part 4. He actually did work on the story of Rambo 5 with Stallone but the producers wanted to do a movie about human trafficking. Here's his full comment.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=187167388040595&story_fbid=2431450953612216/

Sounds like fair criticism to me. I felt like the John Rambo character storyarc tied up nicely at the end of the 2nd movie. Everything after that has just been franchise milking and lots of "destruction porn."

[Andrew NDB]

Sounds like fair criticism to me. I felt like the John Rambo character storyarc tied up nicely at the end of the 2nd movie. Everything after that has just been franchise milking and lots of "destruction porn."

I've dug into this. Morrell's grandson has been posting on Stallone's Instagram a lot... apparently Morrell had a version of Rambo 5 he wanted to do on a story level and Stallone had his back on it but the studio didn't like it. So there is an element of butt hurt at play.

[Wildcat]

I hate bumping topics but I guess it’s not too old. It is for this specific movie after all. I finally saw this. It was good and I’m really glad Rambo did not die at the end even if they don’t make anymore.

I have not seen the original 3 for quite awhile so I don’t think I can fairly compare all of them at the moment. I saw part 4 again somewhat recently. I think I liked 5 more.

One thing bothered me. The girl that helped Gabrielle find her father basically gives her to the cartel? I know she was drunk but she took her bracelet so she knew what was going on and who was behind it since she leads Rambo to him. What happened here? It’s just strange.

I don’t think it’s “destruction porn” but I will nitpick that a few times he kept killing someone after they were clearly dead. He blows a guy’s head away and then shoots him in the leg just for the sake of it. I get he’s just being Rambo but it’s kinda funny. He wouldn’t feel it.

[Andrew NDB]

I hate bumping topics but I guess it’s not too old. It is for this specific movie after all. I finally saw this. It was good and I’m really glad Rambo did not die at the end even if they don’t make anymore.

Well, it's designed so that maybe he did. Or maybe he didn't, if Stallone wants more. My read is that he died on that chair and bled out and never got on that horse... because he shooed them away a couple scenes ago.

I have not seen the original 3 for quite awhile so I don’t think I can fairly compare all of them at the moment. I saw part 4 again somewhat recently. I think I liked 5 more.

I think I like them equally, for different reasons. 4 has the obviously higher kill count but it's Rambo in a very different place and time in his life.

One thing bothered me. The girl that helped Gabrielle find her father basically gives her to the cartel? I know she was drunk but she took her bracelet so she knew what was going on and who was behind it since she leads Rambo to him. What happened here? It’s just strange.

Yep. It would only be weird if it didn't happen everyday.

I don’t think it’s “destruction porn” but I will nitpick that a few times he kept killing someone after they were clearly dead. He blows a guy’s head away and then shoots him in the leg just for the sake of it. I get he’s just being Rambo but it’s kinda funny. He wouldn’t feel it.

Like 4, it is a great study in a film that devolves the bad guys and makes the audience really hate them, both in 4 and this based in real sh** that has happened (both in Burma/Myanmar a decade ago and Mexico everyday)... and then the big cathartic release at the end. The big setting things right.

[Wildcat]

I guess he could have died but the horse was probably around. It was his home. Animals know where they live. I don’t think it would have ran away.

The thing about the other girl didn’t make sense to me because she cared enough to help her find her father and then just backstabs her for no apparent reason?

Giving a scene like her trying on the bracelet for fun and they got separated in the crowd but was too drunk to notice it would have been better. She could still know who the guy was since he was well known but it’s portrayed as if she was sort of in on it.

If she was blackmailed into doing it that would have been a perfect quick explanation. She was acting kind of regretful when she met Rambo but taking the bracelet makes it seem otherwise. It’s a strange way to have written it.

[Andrew NDB]

I guess he could have died but the horse was probably around. It was his home. Animals know where they live. I don’t think it would have ran away.

Naw. If his shooing them away didn't "stick" then all the gigantic explosions going off (like when he self-destructed his whole tunnel system) would have.

The thing about the other girl didn’t make sense to me because she cared enough to help her find her father and then just backstabs her for no apparent reason?

The reason seems clear. She is someone being paid to lure in girls for the cartel to be drugged up and whored out. It's her profession. And they're out there in spades in Mexico.

Giving a scene like her trying on the bracelet for fun and they got separated in the crowd but was too drunk to notice it would have been better. She could still know who the guy was since he was well known but it’s portrayed as if she was sort of in on it.

She absolutely was in on it. It's clear. We see it from the first scene with the two girls interacting. The cartel lure woman was friends with the main girl way back, but she is seething with envy about her privilege. She is justifying her actions to come in giving her to the cartel.

My only beef with this is that Rambo didn't just put a bullet in her head anyway. Especially when her intel didn't even end up saving the girl's life.

If she was blackmailed into doing it that would have been a perfect quick explanation. She was acting kind of regretful when she met Rambo but taking the bracelet makes it seem otherwise. It’s a strange way to have written it.

Maybe there was better ways to do what they were going for, but the bracelet seems a "simple" way to get around a lot of scenes of Rambo, like, doing more detective work.

[Wildcat]

I meant the horse could have returned after things calmed down. After the explosion the gunfight was mostly underground. I don’t really picture it running off into the distance.

Did you want Rambo to die? Is that how you prefer to view it? That he bled out and riding the horse was just a metaphor?

Anyway I think you’re right about the girl that helped her. I think I also found it weird because she seemed to go out of her way just to lure to Mexico but I can see it happening.

Saying she was blackmailed still would have been a good explanation and why Rambo let her go. She even mentions people knew her. That could go along for why she didn’t want to go back and point them out.

[Andrew NDB]

I meant the horse could have returned after things calmed down. After the explosion the gunfight was mostly underground. I don’t really picture it running off into the distance.

No, no. He shooed the horses away... then the mega gunfight in the corridors and THEN Rambo blew up the whole underground network which caused like an actual earthquake. Those horses would be hightailing it unless they were tied up, and we know that they weren't.

Did you want Rambo to die? Is that how you prefer to view it? That he bled out and riding the horse was just a metaphor?

Personally? Not really. I just think that's what Stallone was going for. Trying to be artsy in a kind of.... ham-fisted way complete with an out if he changes his mind later. Which I think is a cop-out.

Saying she was blackmailed still would have been a good explanation and why Rambo let her go. She even mentions people knew her. That could go along for why she didn’t want to go back and point them out.

Yeah... *sigh*... there might even be deleted scenes with that character, the lurer. Some backstory that was deleted. The cartel having something hanging over her would help explain why Rambo spares her. Because sh**, if she did this to Gabrielle, who knows how many other girls she fed to the cartel similarly? For all we know, half the girls in that hallway were brought by her.

I think Stallone wanted to go gung ho on her (as in blow her away, because there is all kinds of stories about people like her everyday in Mexico and some European countries), but he determined that... eh... probably most audiences wouldn't get it and it'd just read as racism or something in 2019.

[Wildcat]

Oh ya I mixed up when the explosion happened. Well I thought the horse returning was plausible but I guess they could have done that differently. Maybe have a bomb squad or firefighters show up investigating the blast.

So you just wanted him to give a definitive end either way? Die or survive unharmed?

I’m ok with the ending. If there’s no more I’m fine thinking he got to the hospital riding his expertly trained horse that waited outside the ranch :lol:

I only saw it on amazon so there could be deleted scenes on the discs that show her.

[Andrew NDB]

Oh ya I mixed up when the explosion happened. Well I thought the horse returning was plausible but I guess they could have done that differently. Maybe have a bomb squad or firefighters show up investigating the blast.

Maybe. As is, he shooed the horses away firmly... then blew up his whole property. If there was any chance of them coming back, that was gone at that point. Maaaaaybe in a day or so. Certainly not within the same hour.

So you just wanted him to give a definitive end either way? Die or survive unharmed?

I kind of just wanted him to die -- definitively -- and things to come full circle. Maybe even have had Brian Dennehy attend his funeral and pay respects.

I?m ok with the ending. If there?s no more I?m fine thinking he got to the hospital riding his expertly trained horse that waited outside the ranch :lol:

Even if that part was intended to be absolutely real and no Ghost Rambo on imaginary horse... I don't think he was headed to the hospital.

Also... sh**... I just realized there is an Extended cut! It's on Amazon. Apparently even on Blu-Ray, and has been for a couple of months now. I had no idea!

Just watched it on Amazon Prime. It's way better! The beginning with an all-new 10 minute sequence with him saving people from a flood (which I guess was embellished based on a true story from the writer) adds a lot. We get a lot more PTSD stuff, more background/depth to the cartel brothers, too.

[Wildcat]

Ya I read about the extended footage in the beginning.

Youre right about the hospital. He probably would not go there since he would have to give an explanation. I do not think he would let himself pass away without trying to get medical help though.

I saw the clip on YouTube again. He says during the narration that he will fight the keep the memory of his loved ones alive...then the montage...and him riding off on the horse. Its a decent ending imo.

Like he wants carry on in their honor. So everything was not for nothing.

[Andrew NDB]

If some (old, at this point) rumors are to be believed -- and I don't want to humor them because like most things it could turn out to be FAKE -- Rambo will ride to a Native American reservation. And he'll take his truly last stand there. Presumably they'd tend to his wounds.

Rambo is largely Native American, at least in the book that spawned the movies.

[Wildcat]

Oh. I have not read any of those rumors.

I checked out what Stallone said about the last scene. Like you said he left it open ended on purpose but I guess feels he did actually die.

Well Im still glad he left it up to the audience. Not that hes literally invincible but it would seem out of place if he actually died on screen having survived everything else in the previous movies. To me anyway.