Continuation or Remake?

[Sage Ninja]

Just wondering since there is alot of room for interpertation on Nickelodean's desire to "fucus on the 80's toon" version of the turtles, theres been alot of speculation going on here. Could they mean they want to revive the old series with a continuation of that universe where it left off in season 10? Or Do you think they want to just take the same idea of the 80's cartoon and do a remake of of that universe with different scenarios and orgins for the same characters that have already been introduced in the orginal series?

Well I wondering what every one would prefere if the Nick decided to do one of these two things? Since they are going to concentrate on the 80's turtles, would you like that it was a contiuation of the old toon or a remake of the 80's toon?

[Candy Kappa]

hopefully they'll make something new

[Doc_ock_4mugen]

remake and hopefully get Cam Clarke and Rob Paulsen as part of their voice cast. (They don't HAVE to reprise their previous TMNT Roles, if they did that would be sweet!)

[sdp]

Its more likely that it'll be an adult show based exclusively on the Mirage universe that will only air on Nicks new adult block at night than this being a continuation of the 80s show.

[plastroncafe]

Its more likely that it'll be an adult show based exclusively on the Mirage universe that will only air on Nicks new adult block at night than this being a continuation of the 80s show.

Don't you go getting my hopes up!
I'm over here trying to convince myself that it's going to be a toddler show a la The Teletubbies, that way no matter what really happens, I won't be disappointed.

[Nelson]

I... really don't know what to choose! *explodes*

[Andrew NDB]

Complete indifference (you might as well ask, "Do you want me to punch you in the face or kick you in the nuts?"). Either option is creatively bankrupt... but then it's for 6 year olds, not 28 year olds.

[Nelson]

Complete indifference (you might as well ask, "Do you want me to punch you in the face or kick you in the nuts?"). Either option is creatively bankrupt... but then it's for 6 year olds, not 28 year olds.

Indifference?! Being punched in the face is obviously the best option of the two. Or so I've heard.

[Kendamu]

I dunno. I've never had permenant damage from a kick to the balls. A punch to the face, on the other hand...

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah, your nose could be broken, or you could lose a tooth or detach a retina.

I've never heard of anyone breaking or busting a nut. At least in the context we're talking about.

[Nelson]

All good points. I'm ashamed of my lack of knowlegde of fistfights consecuences.

[themaxonline]

I'd personally like to see a remake of the original cartoon with most of the same characters but to have a greater focus on the history with Japan and the martial arts and stuff as well as more dire situations. I'd also like to have more Technodrome episodes but I'd hope it wouldn't be where the Technodrome is ALWAYS moving or on the run. I'd also like a continuing storyline instead of individual episodes. And of course, it should start from the beginning as well.

[plastroncafe]

Yeah, your nose could be broken, or you could lose a tooth or detach a retina.

I've never heard of anyone breaking or busting a nut. At least in the context we're talking about.

I can't believe I actually have a link to this, but I SWEAR it was just on Fark.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/health/loses+testicle+after+random+vicious+kick+woman/2152272/story.html

/apologies for the derail.
//and for potentially ruining your collective afternoons.

[Andrew NDB]

I can't believe I actually have a link to this, but I SWEAR it was just on Fark.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/health/loses+testicle+after+random+vicious+kick+woman/2152272/story.html

/apologies for the derail.
//and for potentially ruining your collective afternoons.

You're such a ball-buster.

[Dragon Turtle]

I thinking it will be a new continuity that uses many of the characters from the 80's toon, not a continuation.

[Lieutenant Granitor]

Its more likely that it'll be an adult show based exclusively on the Mirage universe that will only air on Nicks new adult block at night than this being a continuation of the 80s show.

You really like Venus don't you.. Well I prefer April, OMG your perves like TURTLES ALOT LOL! Well Turtles are influenced by Frankenstain and Nemo, go to "Huge News: Nick aquares Global Rights to TMNT" for details XD!

[Scandia]

I'd prefer a remake with Splinter starting out as a rat. April can work as a reporter- but please put more of Casey. And keep the sarcastic Raphael- he is the most tolerable version of this character.

[Tuxedo Moroboshi]

Personally, I'd like something that's close to what we got with Archie, but with a few elements from other universes mixed in.

[SSSS]

I'd personally like to see a remake of the original cartoon with most of the same characters but to have a greater focus on the history with Japan and the martial arts and stuff as well as more dire situations. I'd also like to have more Technodrome episodes but I'd hope it wouldn't be where the Technodrome is ALWAYS moving or on the run. I'd also like a continuing storyline instead of individual episodes. And of course, it should start from the beginning as well.

I second this. I've always felt the ninja, or ninjitsu aspects were not enough. Would be nice to emphasize more on this to balance out the sci-fi elements. And more drome is good! And a new drome toy to go with.

[strawberryfields]

"fucus on the 80's toon"

There going to f**k us?

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Contiuation. I don't like the computer animation. I like the traditional animation of the 1987 cartoon, better details on the backgrounds, like the houses in town, the automobiles and buses on the street, the Sun in the day, the other stars and the Moon by night, the trees in the park, the aeroplanes and the birds in the sky, the boats in the seaport. Everything looks much better.

If a remake is made, it shall use the traditional animation and be set in the 1980's or early 1990's (with the Internet just for the computer nerds) and not today's "everybody trying to look sexy".

[Icebot]

I'd like to see a continuation, and I know just how the destroyed Technodrome can be rebuilt. At the end of the series finale, Dregg was pushed into the portal that led to the Technodrome in Dimension X. Throughout that season, he had his microbots which Mung said "they can build whatever you dream in just hours". Now if Dregg survives the explosion and the portal still works (it still worked when the turtles used it in the destroyed Technodrome), Dregg could use it to get in touch with his microbots, and, seeing how huge the Technodrome is, Dregg could find it useful and use his microbots to rebuild the Technodrome.

Then eventually, Shredder and Krang could somehow take the Technodrome back from Dregg now that the microbots have rebuilt it. And they could become the main villains again.:) That would be awesome!

[BoggleKng]

anything new would be nice as well as going back to the throwback of the 80's style toon..

[Andrew NDB]

There going to f**k us?

If it was a typo, it shouldn't have been.

[Jephael]

I'd love to see a continuation of the classic series. It could be like a "20 years later" kinda thing.

[Jelly Bean]

I would like to see a continuation. After watching the 80's toon, I have to say I really like that universe. I mean seriously, what would be the point of doing a remake of the same toon that has 9 years of continuity in it?

Plus a remake make me nervious that they would change the characters to much.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Maybe the three Red Sky years/seasons (1994-1996) should be declared unofficial.

[Jelly Bean]

what do you mean?

[Cipher]

There going to f**k us?Yeah, right on the '80s cartoon. I don't know how they're going to get it by BS&P though.

I would like to see a continuation. After watching the 80's toon, I have to say I really like that universe. I mean seriously, what would be the point of doing a remake of the same toon that has 9 years of continuity in it?Because it won't be a straight-up remake? More like a new version of Turtles heavily inspired by aspects of the '80s toon. I think it's likely we'll see something that plays itself a little more seriously and action-packed, but with all the mutant characters.

Plus a remake make me nervious that they would change the characters to much.Just like the characters are different in every version of Turtles?

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I don't hope a re-make will include every episode and character, some are silly. The important is to include the main characters (TMNT, Splinter, April O' Neil, Irma Langinstein, Burne Thompson, Casey Jones, Vernon Fenwik, Shredder, Krang, Bebop, Rocksteady and Foot Soldiers and some others, follow the storyline (like Splinter being Hamato Yoshi, Shredder tricking Hamato Yoshi from Japan, Hamato Yoshi leaving for the USA, Shredder arriving to the USA and teaming up with Krang, April and later Irma becoming friends with the TMNT and the Technodrome moving between some locations (musn't be the same) and to make it mostly an action/humor show. I would also like to see the vacation in Europe or the TMNT visiting some other places on the Earth to.

[Andrew NDB]

I mean seriously, what would be the point of doing a remake of the same toon that has 9 years of continuity in it?

Well, I'd be shocked if it was like a plot-by-plot, episode-by-episode, shot-for-shot remake literally... but tonally, and the overall rough story arcs, a lot of that may look real familiar in the new show.

And what do you mean what would be the point? They don't want to break what was a winning formula... in the eyes of beancounters, why screw with it? And they're not in the business of entertaining the 28 year olds who saw the children's cartoon when they were little tykes... they're in the business of entertaining new little tykes who don't even know how to spell "continuity," let alone what the word even means or entails.

[kev trashcan]

i think it should be a crossover with dragon ball z haahahahaha. think about it the dbz characters cans how up and splinter reviels to the turtles his knowledge of energy attacks. plus piccalo is green to so they'll bod with that. the flying cat can chase splinter around comedy obviously follows this. vegetta and casey jone and raph will bash people up together, and the shredder learns to fuse with freeza. mike and archarobi can exchance recipes for pizza, and gohan an don will be study buddys, whil maser roshi try's to look up aprils skirt. and leo and goku train together.

IT WILL BE A NATIONAL TREASURE FOR USA AN JAPAN. plus that kinda star power will end the recession and bring unemployment levels back down

[Kendamu]

I know that TMNT and Dragonball were both popular on TV at roughly the same point in history, but they're so tonally different that I can't see it happening... even if a small part of me wonders what it would be like to see Son Goku and the Turtles in a pizza eating contest.

[kev trashcan]

sarcasm never gets across online, i was just making a joke dude.

butat the same time even though i agree with you, i think it would be like a car crash, so horrible you cant turn away.

[Venom]

The only thing I'm curious about is seeing if they try to take the new show in a "Ben 10" direction, meaning they start it out as a younger kid's show and graduate it up every few years. What led me to ponder this was reading one of the press releases where one of the Nick execs talked about having the Turtles bringing in more "harder-edged action" to the company in an attempt to draw boys back into the network fold.

Besides, "Ben 10" has used teeny-bop versions of April and Casey for years. >_> Interesting note: Man of Action is a collective of three comic writers who created Ben 10 for CN.

[Dragon Turtle]

The only thing I'm curious about is seeing if they try to take the new show in a "Ben 10" direction, meaning they start it out as a younger kid's show and graduate it up every few years. What led me to ponder this was reading one of the press releases where one of the Nick execs talked about having the Turtles bringing in more "harder-edged action" to the company in an attempt to draw boys back into the network fold.


I rather have them keep them as Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.


Besides, "Ben 10" has used teeny-bop versions of April and Casey for years. >_> Interesting note: Man of Action is a collective of three comic writers who created Ben 10 for CN.

Joe Kelly was a story editor and writer for some of episodes of the 2k3 cartoon.

[The Stryker]

They don't want to break what was a winning formula... in the eyes of beancounters, why screw with it? And they're not in the business of entertaining the 28 year olds who saw the children's cartoon when they were little tykes... they're in the business of entertaining new little tykes who don't even know how to spell "continuity," let alone what the word even means or entails.

Not seeing the negative here.

Are fans that greedy? I WANT MY VERSION FOR ME AND ME ONLY, NEW GENERATIONS CAN'T HAVE IT!

[Coola Yagami]

I don't think the Turtles are gonna back to being all-out silly pizza-tossing, banana peel-slippin, curtain-cutting slapstick ninjas. The show will probably have awesome action, but it'll follow the old toon's premise with April being a reporter, Yoshi being Splinter and the Turtles trying to stop Shredder and Krang from ruling the world with the Technodrome.

[SSSS]

Yeah, the word 'remake' is being taken a little too literally here. In all likelihood, there'll be lots of new input, new take on old characters, new storylines and arcs, etc from the producers and writers, it'd look like a totally new show. A creative remake, in other words.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I WANT MY VERSION FOR ME AND ME ONLY, NEW GENERATIONS CAN'T HAVE IT!

You can always create your own TMNT universe, with fanfiction stories.

[Tuxedo Moroboshi]

Besides, "Ben 10" has used teeny-bop versions of April and Casey for years. >_>

I've seen Ben 10 episodes here and there, but I never really followed it much. That being the case, are you referring to Kevin and Gwen? If so, wow, I never really thought about it before, but they do seem pretty similar to Casey and April.

Yoshi being Splinter

I hope not, honestly. Back then, they only did that because of how strict children's programing rules were back then, but I honestly always thought Splinter having always been a rat works better. Besides that, the way mutation works in the OT really doesn't make any sense (from everything I've seen, it was always more magical than scientific, despite claiming to be scientific). For that matter, and this is only my opinion, if Bebop and Rocksteady are to appear in this new show, I think I'd prefer it if they were a a rhino and a warthog that got mutated, rather than human thugs.

Speaking of which... in the OT, what the heck ever happened to the rhino and warthog that were used for B&R's mutations? And none of the rats Yoshi touched got mutated? And if the Turtles turned into humanoid turtles because they were with Yoshi (a human), why didn't Yoshi turn into a turtle rather than a rat? Or for that matter, maybe a turtle/rat hybrid?

You know what? I'm gonna stop trying to make sense out of the OT mutagen. Lest I start going into the infamous "Michelangelo turns into a human" episode and all of its flaws. :lol:

[The Stryker]

You can always create your own TMNT universe, with fanfiction stories.

You'd think they would be happy with that but no. They want everything to reflect what THEY want.

[Sage Ninja]

I'm really opn the fence on which one that I want. It has been a secret dream to have the orginal 80's toon come back on the air with new episodes, since I enjoyed those portrayals so much. Raphael as a smart-ass, Michaelangelo as laid back party dude, Donatello as the smart tech guy with some disdain for humanity, and Splinter as Yoshi, and April as reporter.

I liked those personalites/portrayals. I loved how they meshed with each other, and every one can say what they want about the old toon I liked it's orginality and the stories. I've always wanted to have the show come back with a "years done the road" sort of way. If it was ever brought back as a contiuation I would want it to be grittier and more hard hitting. Like season one and seven but with perhaps a bit more serious than that.

However I do see the merits of a remake and it has me excited and hopeful. a remake of the 80's toon (if it's a straight remake) could be chance to start things off fresh with the same characters, which could be so cool. I would love to see the technodrome and Shredder, Krang and Bebop and Rocksteady, but with a diiferent execution of their characters.

I think this could be a chance to have a few tweaks in certain characters. I worte this on another thread so I'm going to post it here:

Mondo Gecko. His origins of being orginally a human rock star turned mutant in the archies sounds like it would be a cool new take on his character.

And Leatherhead's origin in the archies as a human who got changed into a gator man by a vodoo witch sounds pretty damn awsome, that I would like to see a shot at in a remake.

And other characters like Lugnut and Screwloose could get better potrayals like they did in the archie comics than they did in the show.

And Slash has so much potential as a foil for the other four turtles of being violent and evil rather than a borderline retarded submutant that he was portrayed as in the 80's toon.

I think this could be cool to see some of the archie portrayals in animation form. My only concern ishow the personalites of some of the turtles would be handled. Since this new wave of turtle fandom there has been this standard of Donatello being this cutsey sweet guy, Michelangelo being this ADHD annoying bratty little brother sterotype, and Raphael and Leonardo at each others throats domiinating the show.

[odupianist]

I have a feeling this show will be more like the show that was mentioned in PL's blog awhile back before BttS where it would be all sorts of characters in there. I can't remember the name right now of the show they proposed. It wouldn't surprise me if they went back to that idea though.

[Lynn]

Remake. It would be awesome to see a villian being not nearly incompetant as Shredder but still retaining the humor. A cross between Dregg and Shredder.

[Lieutenant Granitor]

I'd say continuation. IF Nick does a remake they will mess it up. IF they do reruns thats different. I would love them to do reruns, but not REMAKES! Also I wish they do continuation to OT, since Shredder and Krang return in Turtles Forever, that seems like a goog idea!

[hadoolket]

rather than just a continuation or a remake...

...i'd like a fine tuning that does a clever blend between the seriousness of the modern age and the slapstick of the old days--not that i expect such, but kids are a little too serious these days and adults are just as bad about being serious, too. people need to laugh it up a little, but at the same time, shouldn't be too afraid to be too serious/personal/intimate in fear of believing that seriousness and humor would cancel out each other. afterall, that's what we call irony! it's like that story about the astronaut who drove 18 hours in diapers to go kill her boyfriend in the way that it's serious, but also funny because of the diapers thing

and characters can be reintroduced and reinvented just the same without fear of stepping on toes of fans of the past, ex irma who annoys people with her man-cravings; she can be sort of brought back on the insignificant side as someone a little more grown-up and mature about herself! not very hard, and sorry to use this as an example, but fanfics do this all the time (quality is questionable)

of course to pull this off in a good way, i guess that actually requires some competent writers, nevermind!

[Aztec General]

Neither. Do something completely new. Which is what they are going to do. If you are expecting to see TMNT 1987 on Nickelodeon you are in for a shock.

I'm telling you, as of right now even Nick doesn't know what direction they want to head. So don't listen to internet rumors.

[SpellbinderV]

Ok. First, if they plan to do something with TMNT, it should be something complitely New, or continuation of OT. But for turtles sake, not a remake. I remember reading interview where they discussed planned Season 11 plot, and they mentioned return of Shredder and Krang. So IMO if new OT series ever come to life, they should be not so childish like 1-7 seasons, but something balanced between RSS & 2003 series.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Ok. First, if they plan to do something with TMNT, it should be something complitely New, or continuation of OT. But for turtles sake, not a remake. I remember reading interview where they discussed planned Season 11 plot, and they mentioned return of Shredder and Krang. So IMO if new OT series ever come to life, they should be not so childish like 1-7 seasons, but something balanced between RSS & 2003 series.

Maybe like Archie?

[The Stryker]

So you want a remake of the 2003 series instead of the OT? Pretty much what you're saying.

Remake is entirely the wrong word in this discussion. Especially since most net goblins these days fear the word and mess their sh*t whenever it's attached to anything.

[Dejablue]

Grrr I can't make up my mind. Arg I kinda didn't like the Red Sky season...but at the same time the OT Turtles before that point probably would piss most people off in a new show...ugh. It's like i'm stuck between a rock and a horde of angry fans who will pitch fork you no matter what you choose.

[amberbratt]

Im not sure what I want.. I mean it is 25 years old.. so even the old series is like going on 7 years


I think something continued in the style of the 200X would be nice.. but we need something catching everyone up to speed on who they are...

we all know the story... but have a different take on the intro or a dif view with out being 2 complicated would be nice

and hopefully they don't make it all wacko cartoony like the turtles forever turtles.. they looked good but lol... little to cheezy for me.


so maybe the look of the 80's turtles.. and then the story telling of the 200x :)

[Godzilla]

I have no desire to see a continuation of the 87 toon (not that would actually happen anyways).

Remake/Rebooting the series is definately the more likely scenario, and since the decision is to make it much akin to the 87 toon, that's fine. From a marketing/popularity POV, bringing in the approach to the TMNT franchise that was extremely successful for a good number of years WOULD be the way to go for Nick. However, my hope is to see the new series be one that not only appeals to younger kids (to which the new series would be aimed to please), but also older fans as well (since there are alot of people in their 20's, and hey let's be honest, 30's too ... that have alot of affection for these characters. Especially those found in the OT TMNT universe).

Other than a blend of OT TMNT and 2k3 TMNT, my ideal scenario would be something akin to the 1990's Superman animated series. Which was decidedly more lighter in it's approach than the Batman animated series was (which was only right), but also still being fun to watch and most importantly, appealing to a wider demographic than what could have otherwise been.

[Dejablue]

I have no desire to see a continuation of the 87 toon (not that would actually happen anyways).

Remake/Rebooting the series is definately the more likely scenario, and since the decision is to make it much akin to the 87 toon, that's fine. From a marketing/popularity POV, bringing in the approach to the TMNT franchise that was extremely successful for a good number of years WOULD be the way to go for Nick. However, my hope is to see the new series be one that not only appeals to younger kids (to which the new series would be aimed to please), but also older fans as well (since there are alot of people in their 20's, and hey let's be honest, 30's too ... that have alot of affection for these characters. Especially those found in the OT TMNT universe).

Other than a blend of OT TMNT and 2k3 TMNT, my ideal scenario would be something akin to the 1990's Superman animated series. Which was decidedly more lighter in it's approach than the Batman animated series was (which was only right), but also still being fun to watch and most importantly, appealing to a wider demographic than what could have otherwise been.


Yeah this is most likely the scenario we'll get and I'd actually like that. Or at least...in my mind I'd like that.

[Avatar Yuffie]

Man, if TMNT can reboot in the same way as Spectacular Spider-Man did I'm all for it (tweaking the characters, but at the same time staying to their roots).

I just really hope for good writers.

[CyberCubed]

The new show will neither be a continuation nor a remake of the old series. Anyone who thinks so is kidding themselves.

It'll be an all-new take on TMNT that uses some familiar characters and old bad guys, but other than that it'll be new.

Some origin stories might be similar, and I'm interested to see if Splinter is a human or a rat, but we'll see.

[oldmanwinters]

I don't really have that much interest in seeing a new "origin story arc." I think it would be cool to have the new show hit the ground running within an already established status quo (major characters such as April, Casey, Shredder, etc. have known the TMNT for a while). This would avoid yet another attempt at trying to reshape the TMNT universe and focus on the actual storytelling of new adventures. Occasional flashbacks could fill in background details from time to time. So... pretty much just make the show Batman: The Animated Series. :-)

[Koi]

Some origin stories might be similar, and I'm interested to see if Splinter is a human or a rat, but we'll see.

I always thought the human story, made more sense... besides that one loophole.

Anyway, I would LOVE a remake. Something new and different to dish out. New characters even. The turtles remade, with maybe even different takes on there personalities. I just want to see how much they could shake things up. I wouldn't mind to see something different from the show then the norm. I don't think it will ever go as far as I want it to go.

[Jelly Bean]

Some origin stories might be similar, and I'm interested to see if Splinter is a human or a rat, but we'll see.

maybe they'll make Splinter an alien rodent instead of a mutated rat/human this time around.

maybe even different takes on there personalities

I would welcome that. Since Rob Paulsen is voicing Donatello maybe that could be an indicator of different his personality could be from passed interpertations.

Just to shake things up, could the new show maybe not make Rapahel angry and defiant, Not have Mikey so stupid and goofy, and maybe not have Leo so much a "model student."

[Koi]

Just to shake things up, could the new show maybe not make Rapahel angry and defiant, Not have Mikey so stupid and goofy, and maybe not have Leo so much a "model student."

I think Raph being Bipolar would be fun, I believe I heard someone on this forum talk about that. I think Leo would be cooler if he never talked and was just a silent leader.

[raphfan84]

Id like them to do a remake. Maybe change it up some to where it's not so cartoonish...idk that's a hard one to answer cause I can't imagine a turtles cartoon without a Shredder or any incarnation of the turtles without Shredder.

[cryan]

I chose remake myself.I loved the 80's-90's series but they should remake it.Not as goofy.We need Shredder in there.I think time have change(obviously)and a remake would be good.Update some of the supporting characters from the old toon as well.I wouldn't mind the foot soldiers being human.