Dem dere Next Mutation eps'

[lethrhd]

Hoo dere! How y'all be? So whata' I'm wunnerin' bout' is where ta get dem turtle boy episodes. Tanks!

[That Matt Guy]

Have yoos tried MIRC? http://www.tmnt-episodes.tk/

[lethrhd]

Yea I'm a downloadin de ol' TMNT episodes as we a speakin' but I can't find no Next Mutation Eps.

oh yea and... DON"T MOCK DIS HERE GATORMAN :flaming:

[CookSux]

[edit] Completely uncalled for.

[PWDESAI]

Yeah i encoded teh first 5 episodes of the next mutation. I will be selling it in the near future on dvd i think. There will be a store at my site soon.

[lethrhd]

Ol' Leatherhead don't take to kindly ta dat... I gawurantee I doesn't :evil:

[ZigFB]

Woah... Someone actually WANTS those things? *shudders* After seeing the vampire storyline, I fled.... Though, it was quite nice of Fox and Saban to prove me right when I said that the TMNT could beat the Power Rangers any day of the week. :anime:

[Psycho Da Turtle]

**cries** Why must everyone bash my friends? I love the Next Mutation series. It was so unbelievably cooky! And Yes I've got all the episodes on tape and watch them regularly. Sure its no new show or the classic, but I think it was a nice transition period. Could you be nice to them please? Its hard to find all these negative posts and try and stand up for the show. By the way......could I get a hug?

[Psycho Da Turtle]

O and someone will probably try and lock this thread because there are so many on this same topic. Granted, they dont all include such lovely speach patterns as our frieand gatorboy here, do they now?

[Shellfox]

Next Mutation was good, wierd but good, but this is also me talking, so the show wasn't high art, it was live action there by a bit inferior (like my spelling) but getting past that it was pretty good. And if nothing else it gave us one of my fav villians Simon Bone Steel

[lethrhd]

What you be meanin' by that Zig? Dem turtle boys be fightin' dem Power Rangers??

[Shellfox]

What you be meanin' by that Zig? Dem turtle boys be fightin' dem Power Rangers??

it was an ep of Power Rangers in Space, Astronoma took conrtol of the TMNTs minds and forced them to fight the Rangers, the guys took over the ship, got free and whiped the butts of the bad guys

[Barkworm]

Yeah, I watched that one. I think it was the most terrible TMNT moment ever (except "Next Mutation" itself).

[Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan]

I don't know why, but the Dragon Lord from "The Next Mutation" series reminds me of Dregg from the old cartoon series.

Just a random thought. :lol:

"Woo-kay, we've got a couple of Grade-A ding-dongs on our hands!" - Raphael, from "Carter, the Enforcer"

[Kali]

I happen to like NT:TNM. Don't think it's the best universe, but I love the campiness. I understand that TNM lovers are a minority, but that doesn't give anyone the right to bash the show. Just like the old school cartoon lovers hate it when the cartoon is bashed, we don't like it when TNM is bashed. There is a general rule here that you cannot "bash" any TMNT universe, though saying you don't like it is okay. But remember, some of us DO like it, so don't be surprised when we get all up-in-arms over an insult.

[Barkworm]

I didn't mean to offend you Kali, sorry!

[Nickokapo]

HOLY SHIZ IT'S LEATHERHEAD HIMSELF :P
Well i dunno where you can get next mutation episodes, all i've seen online are the 2 power rangers/tmnt tnm crossover which you can get on irc (good luck finding it tho...tho you might have luck in the power rangers chan but ever since dalnet prohibited filechannels i dunno where it is) or you can just buy the vcd at www.getvcds.com
Also eps 1-5 have been encoded (edited tho) i dunno if you'll find that in irc either as it wasnt distributed too much, but pwdesai will probably put it on sale in his site on dvd.
Other than that i'm afraid i cant help you mr.leather...try checking those cartoon trading forums, i know i saw someone selling vhs versions of the eps in one of em, but be warned the quality of those can left something to be desired.
I had no idea you had 'puters and net access in the cajun swamps tho, congrats :anime:

[Mondo_Gecko]

Hey Welcome Back Nick. Nice to see you again.

[Nickokapo]

Nice to see ya too mondo :anime: i should put icq on again so we can talk more often lol :embarass: but there were so many proggies on my task bar than i turned it off.

[ZigFB]

Ok, I've watched Next Mutation, and, well, I'm sorry, but all the bonus points I gave it were quickly taken away during the course of the show. And you are talking to someone who LOVES stuff like this. I mean, come on, the chara designs were horrible (why make their shells look like armor? Why?), the voices left little to be desired, the whole Venus DeMilo debacle... Ok, now I'm going to touch on this for a moment.. See, I LIKED the concept of a female turtle, I really did. It was a good idea, until I found out WHY Saban did it. The whole point of the show was to make a Power Rangers property to run after power rangers. This was to make Power Rangers in Space look good, and to do that, you need AT LEAST five members on the team, so enter the 'lost' fifth turtle, Venus DeMilo. The odd part was that Venus didn't even appear on the PRiS episode. She also was a replacement for April because Saban thought April wouldn't hold her place anymore, and they wanted a more 'girl power' feel. Too bad Venus sucked. They made her suck. They wrote it in the show for her to suck. Notice that in the end the turtles were talking about getting rid of her. Why? cause Saban made her suck. Were she in the hands of more capable writers, maybe she would have had a chance.

Now then, for how I gave the show bonus points. I gave it points for actually BEING a live action show, and for Splinter MOVING... That earned it what should have been enough points to carry it for me. I also gave them some added extras for the costumes. Adding the female gave it a few more for attempting to make it 'PC' in some small way, and to give the female audience a reason to watch (hey, the more girls that watch, the happier I am :D). Also, the fact that the foot were FINALLY humans got MAJOR points. Now, let's get to how they lost them. First, one word, Dragonlord. I hated him. Second, the vampiress who I forget the name of. Third, Venus's chara. Fourth, Leo was not Cam Clarke (every show loses points on this, it's a thing with me. :lol:) Fifth, the theme song was soooooooooo annoying to me. Sixth, the battle armor looking shells. Seventh, Venus's chara (again, not her fault, Saban's fault). Eigth, SABAN!!! All of these took off MAJOR points, sending it straight into the red for me, and detracted from my enjoyment of the show. I found myself cringing more than anything. Sorry to offend anyone. Also, another big thing was that this show destroyed a lot of the fanbase, none more apparent than here. People will not give TMNT, new or old, a second look merely for the fact that this show (and the Image comic) existed. These two things hurt TMNT as a whole, and while some may like it, it still most likely would have been better off not happening, not just in my eyes, but stats wise as well. Now then, if you people (or gators) actually read all the way through this post, I will be highly impressed, as you have just spent a lot of your time listening to my inflated opinion as I try to explin my earlier comments. I do not expect anyone's opinions to change, and am currently waiting for flames. Cheerio.

[Psycho Da Turtle]

So many a thread have been written, down playing the quality of the show. Break it down. For what it was, it was a good show. Costumes were good for what they were needed for, mostly acting, less action, like the first cartoon, the fighting was a little bland, only because it wasnt used widely. The bad guys, were corny and funny, just like the first cartoon. The only reason I think you bash it is because its in the same feild as Power Rangers, not to mention that you had seen all of that great action in the first two movies, I'll exclude the third for now. The show had a lower budget to be spread over much more time. They did what they could with the money. The show also did quite well rating wise, often beating out Power Rangers themselves. Although the real reason is unknown why it was canceled this could have affected it. Another thing affecting cancelation may have as well been that Fox wasnt getting as much money as they wanted. They own rights I believe to Power Rangers and most other shows on the station, meaning more money to them, With the Next Mutation, they had to pay Mirage. But otherwise, its a great show. The figures as well were awsome! The storylines were cooky and fun. This universe opened up for a lot of new things for our turtle friends. Also I think character wise with the turtles and splinter, they did at least as good a job as the first cartoon. Leo led, Raph rebelled, Don was smart. but for reason, and Mike was well, cartoon Mike. But please, try not to come down too hard on the show. If you liked it, good, if not, leave it alone. Sure its not as good as the original comic, or the new show, but its part of the history no matter how much we relent it.

[ZigFB]

Er, by 'here' in that last post, I meant in my area... :tanime:

[Kali]

I didn't mean to offend you Kali, sorry!
Don't worry, I wasn't talking directly to you, just making a general statement. If you don't like it, that's fine with me, it's the people who go way overboard on bashing it that upset me.

I never said the show was good, just that I liked it. I think it could have been WAY better if executed properly, but we had Saban making the show, so there went that chance.

Face it, we've been spoiled. The first movie, the early seasons of the cartoon, they raised the expectations so high that it's no wonder the "later" stuff got such low reviews, even though it was some pretty good stuff in its own right.

I'm doing a fan fiction series that rewrites the Next Mutation storyline, like Marvel did with its "ultimate" series'. Hopefully it'll be much better, cause even I couldn't make it any worse!

[ZigFB]

Hey, one thing is that at least it wasn't Coming Out of Their Shells... I mean, hey, I'm one of the few people that actually can sit through it. Though, mainly I sit there to watch everyone squirming. One guy tried to drown himself in the toilet! Well, actually he just started flushing it to drown out the sound and kept getting closer so that the sound would be louder and sorta lost his balance and fell in... Either way, I found it amusing. Heh, I still have the soundtrack...

[Duke]

Fourth, Leo was not Cam Clarke (every show loses points on this, it's a thing with me. :lol:)

I quit responding to threads about the next mutation so i not sure what made me read this one but i did. So all i want to say is i agree. Every show does lose points if their is no Cam Clarke. The greatest voice actor of all time.

[lethrhd]

This ol' gatorman be a' readin all ya'lls posts and't got me ta' wonderin'... why would Mirage agree to it? Sumware' I heard dat dem turtle boys even durin' tha' red sky seasons still kilt' those Rangers in ratings. So why cancel tha' cartoon in tha first place?

Gator-Hater-Translator:
"ahem" What my reptillian coleague is trying to say is, he read through all of the posts found on this topic and began to ponder... why would Mirage (the company that owns the TMNT if I'm not mistaken) agree to the Next Mutation concept in the first place? He seems to recall hearing someone say that even during the red sky episodes the original cartoon still won rating's wise over the Power Rangers, so what was the reason for the cancellation.

But dat's what I dun' said, I aint needen nobody ta' translate, foe dis here gatorman can do tha' talkin' foe himself!

G.H.T.:
What my reptilian comrade is trying to say, is "That is what I meant in the first place. I do not require a translator. I can talk for myself."
:wink:

...

[ZigFB]

Many concepts seem good on paper. Believe me on this. And it DOES seem like an interesting concept if you haven't seen or heard anything about Next Mutation. It just failed with me, and it seems like it failed with several others. But it still found it's place in the hearts of many fans, and those fans usually defend it fiercly. Fox tends to be rather unstable with it's shows, and will cancel something at the drop of a hat if it can. I also attribute it's demise to lack of Cam Clarke as Leo, and I know people are tired of hearing me say that, but he was, I felt, the perfect voice for Leo, and will continue to be in my book. And quite a few people, usually ex-TMNT fans, agree with me, though almost all of them are Robotech fans :tanime:

[Ninja Tiptup]

ABC Family should air Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation and Masked Rider, but no.... Disney would never do something that would work.

[Psycho Da Turtle]

I must say i firmly agree. They play the old Power Rangers episodes, and playin the turtles would be a nice way for them to compromise on something the wouldnt have to work hard to obtain. Though I love the show, I'm sure if they didnt already have the rights to air it, theyd be easily gotten.

[ZigFB]

It's not that it's hard to get the rights to. It's more of, now that the new show is out and TMNT is regaining a bit of popularity, it might be that the rights holders (i.e. Saban and Laird) would want more money for the product, therefore not ensuring mass profits for airing the reruns. However, should the new show prove to be the hit that we all hope it will be... Well... Maybe FoxBox will bring it back and put it in the time slot Ultraman Tiga was in...

[Roseangelo]

I haven't read this entire thread (just the last page), so forgive me if I'm saying something that's been said. What I fear most about Next Mutation is that Peter Laird dislikes it so much that he'll never allow it to resurface in any format, be it reruns, DVDs, or whatever else.

I did recently find (and order) this:
http://www.getvcds.com/vcd/powerspace2.shtml

Woohoo!