Am I WIERD

[Fraggle]

I hate everything to do with war so wat i have decided to do is make up my own headlines in my head zoneing out all the war and have headlines to do with the new TMNT comic series by mirage. My first issue of the NINJITSU GAZETTE is to do with issue 1 and the headline is SHOOTING SLEDs IN THE SKY.

[Nate]

Yes, very.

[Karpo_007]

Heh :lol: Nothing wrong if you don't want to read about the war.

[lethrhd]

... unr'standable'

[cqb101]

I'm lost..........

[Nickokapo]

Im kinda lost too :) but i think basically he wants to make his own headlines based on the tmnt comics to get away from war in some way.
I don't blame him, i myself dont like war either.

[CookSux]

This is off topic and should be moved...

[That Matt Guy]

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums//images/smilies/nono.gif

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

Hey, man, that's pretty creative! Nice thinking. :)

[Reznorite420]

Yes, you are weird for misspelling the word :lol: (there are exceptions to the "I before E except after C" rule, you know :wink: )

[Fraggle]

hey im sorry if i have made people go lost but i have just found out from college that might be dyslexic and have dyspraxia :cry: :cry: :cry:

[Mars-Chan]

:o Ge'oooohh!!! *does the "Simpsons" thing*

[SavantiRomero]

I'm wierder, but good idea :)

[Mars-Chan]

Heh...I beg to differ! I am weirder than anyone here! Just ask. :wink: :lol:

[Zenrick]

I saw a sign in a magazine that a young teenage girl was holding that read: "I am NOT proud to be an American" She was a part of the peace mobs around California.......well I would LOVE for her to go to Iraq and live. How can ANYONE that has even visited America not be so proud of how much we have here?? If you have any doubt about America, go visit a 3rd world country and see how much you have to be thankful for. I seriously cant STAND people that feel they have a grasp on what reality is when then are still sucking their moms teet. The war is here, it isnt pretty...the majority dont want it, but that doesnt mean they cant support it. I dont want the war, but I am in support of my country all the way. If you are ashamed of what we are fighting for AT ALL I feel sorry for you.
I like how actors and actresses think they have a say in what goes on and can change anything at all. It makes me laugh. All they are doing is being dubbed 'traitors' and hopefully they wont be allowed to return to our awesome country.....
well thats my piece, sorry for rambling. I just hate anti-war talk.

[Fraggle]

that all very nice zendrick but i is from the uk

[Barkworm]

So Zenrick, do you think EVERYTHING what's done by the American government is great? Or do you think Bush wants to free Iraq because he's such a nice person? You're a bit naive aren't you?

[That Matt Guy]

I wish people would stop making the US look like the sole war mongers; I mean, dump some of the blame for this war on the UK also.

[Barkworm]

Well, it's not the UK which must be blamed but Blair who behaves like a dictator. In the U.S. Bush is supported by most of his people but in the UK nearly everybody is against war. The good thing about it is that this awful person will never be voted again.

[Nickokapo]

Hmph, the guy wanted to avoid war and you guys rub it in his face, way to go :P
Not to say it's exactly wrong, i found it rather funny.
I've already said my opinion of this war and wont repeat it since its getting tiresome, i'll just say it's a war that's none of my bussines and well, i dont like war, but it's here and there's nothing to do about it, just get over it.

[Zenrick]

So Zenrick, do you think EVERYTHING what's done by the American government is great? Or do you think Bush wants to free Iraq because he's such a nice person? You're a bit naive aren't you?

the US gov't. is a bunch of BS. Bush wants to free Iraq 'cause its a POS country and they've gone too far with their camps and all. Bush is not a stupid man. He is a man of God who is being used to help countries in need. Because you have your assumptions on his behavior and personality doesnt make them so, the same goes for my case....except mine is a LITTLE easier to prove than what you might have to say. If you dont like Bush or what he stands for by all means go kick it with Saddam. He might be a 'nice' person.

[Barkworm]

You're a bit naive aren't you?
I guess the answer is "YES"!
Please stop this "a man of God"-crap! I don't think "God" (no matter of which religion) wants the American army to kill civilians, who have NOTHING to do with this whole mess. So this "Bush fights for God" thing is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
Bush is not a stupid man. He is a man of God who is being used to help countries in need. Whole Africa is "in need", they have no food, civil wars everywhere, BUT WHO HELPS THEM??? Bush will only "help" countries if he can take personal advantages for himself!
Fortunately not erveryone in the USA follows this ******** blindly like you do but I guess you think great people like Serj Tankian, Michael Moore and Eddie Vedder are traitors...

[Tokka-B]

I agree bark.

Hmmm, Hussein or Bush? I don't know which country I would want to live in, I see no difference to tell you the truth.

[That Matt Guy]

Well I don't think I would want to live in Iraq, because it has all of those sand storms.

[Raven]

I would rather live in america
suddam gassed His own people

I guess if you dont like freedom
well there you go.

[Tokka-B]

True he gases his own people, but then again 30% of the people that live near Bush are in poverty or homeless....hmmm as well as low taxes doesn't help the government being able to pay for education, medical insurance, social security, etc... Iraq is really rich and isn't in debt a few trillion, they can use its money wisely... Nice weather in Iraq, they probly believe in global warming, so they wont be in the flood when we are, in america those damn commercials are so annoying...

to name just a few... :wink:

EDIT: Also, America doesn't have all that freedom you may think it has. Only half the people in the U.S can be satisfied during one presidential term, the only real freedom you have is to vote for someone to represent your opinions, but if they dont win, you end up with someone you dont want, you also get partial freedom of speech... Heck, I have seen 500 people get arrested for protesting the war, how's that for freedom? :lol: :lol:

[Duke]

Please stop this "a man of God"-crap! I don't think "God" (no matter of which religion) wants the American army to kill civilians, who have NOTHING to do with this whole mess. So this "Bush fights for God" thing is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
OK, have you ever read the Old Testament?

[Zenrick]

You're a bit naive aren't you?
I guess the answer is "YES"!
Please stop this "a man of God"-crap! I don't think "God" (no matter of which religion) wants the American army to kill civilians, who have NOTHING to do with this whole mess. So this "Bush fights for God" thing is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.

ok what you said is probably the dumbest thing I've ever read. Do you honestly read the news having it say "many civilians killed in desert battle??" Man I honestly shouldnt need to explain this, but obviously some children havent a clue. Did you not read about how Saddam told all of his people to take up arms and attack America in any way?? Is this not a reason to attack their ARMY (no, not civilians)?

Bush is not a stupid man. He is a man of God who is being used to help countries in need.
Whole Africa is "in need", they have no food, civil wars everywhere, BUT WHO HELPS THEM??? Bush will only "help" countries if he can take personal advantages for himself!
Fortunately not erveryone in the USA follows this sh** blindly like you do but I guess you think great people like Serj Tankian, Michael Moore and Eddie Vedder are traitors...

hahaha, man you are totally changing the subject. What does Africa have to do with this?? When a country does harm to its own people, thats a bad thing.....Africa is just in poverty no matter what it wont stop.....America doesnt have the money to help them out, they just need to keep wielding their spears and feeding their families....thats fine. And YES I think all celebrities against the war are TRAITORS and shouldnt be allowed the liberty our awesome country has to offer....

[Duke]

you also get partial freedom of speech... Heck, I have seen 500 people get arrested for protesting the war, how's that for freedom? :lol: :lol:
When you stand and throw trash cans at cop cars or in the streets, thats not freedom of speech. When you block government buildings with bodies so people can't go to work, thats not freedom of speech. But America has never and hopefully never will have absolute freedom of Speech. Americans can't go around slandering and committing deflamation of character by lying. And thats a GOOD THING!

[BIC Donie]

I cant stand idiots who think they know anything about God. I dont care about false gods in any religion. I care about the one true God who our President depends on.

The most powerful man on earth ever morning before doing anything else bows his head, falls on his knees and prays to God.

And this God is not made by man, and is not described by man. He describes himself and has shown himslef through is revelation which has been written and kept for over 4000 years.

And if one idiot would read His revelation they would understand Him. God uses His chosen to take down evil. He has also placed authorities with swords to kill and destroy. If you want references top His revelation and can give them, but you being philosopoopers and all should have probubly covered that part already. You know so much that you have forgotten the basics.

I am proud to be an American, and people who are not should go get gasssed for all I care. And who bases the iraquies prosperity on the Presidents work? talk about nothing to do with. I see illegal Mexicans working and they get good money. But what do iraques do thats what I want to know.

You know why we dont have have complete freedom of speech. Because there are some idiots that I will not mention except that his BACK is hurting that say the stupidist things and no one wants to hear or know how stupid can people actually be.

Freedom? What do you want two presidents? If there are 290,674,115 Americans and you call that freedom we would have 290,674,115 Presidents. And if we had that type of freedom you would surely be dead because I would kill you. Stupid people shouldn't be aloud to live.

[That Matt Guy]

Heck, I have seen 500 people get arrested for protesting the war, how's that for freedom? :lol: :lol:

So you call attacking cops and causing riots and vandalizing property protesting war?

[Duke]

I am proud to be an American
Where at least I know I'm free.

[Zenrick]

I am proud to be an American
Where at least I know I'm free.

And I wont forget the men who died

[Duke]

I am proud to be an American
Where at least I know I'm free.

And I wont forget the men who died
Who gave that right to me

[Barkworm]

OK, have you ever read the Old Testament?
Have you ever read the New Testament? Believe me, my parents were/are strict catholics and I don't think they or any priest I have met in my life (and those were a lot) have ever taught me that "evil" should be punished by killing people. I guess noone of you really got what Jesus was supposed to die for. I would never say that Christian religion is totally great because it was too many times mistreated by people who claimed they "fought for god" like Bush does now but he DOES NOT. It makes me angry when the message of peace is raped in this way.
This is my last post concerning the Iraq war because there is no point in discussing this with people who not even try to understand that people have absolutely no right to say they are fulfilling God's wishes by using violence. Besides, my home is Germany, most people here got what this war is about, so the whole war-thing shouldn't be of my business. It just makes me angry...
P.S. Zenrick, your post just shows that you don't know anything about Africa at all.

[Tokka-B]

Nah Matt, I call it civil disobediance, the most effective and legal way to protest.

Yea, stupid people shouldn't be allowed to live, heh, then both regimes would be gone by now........but then again, without stupid people how can you define smartness?

[Fraggle]

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
ok u guys just calm down all this to do witha piece of imamgation to get away from the war. (geez)
Anyway the next issue of the NINJITSU GAZETTE eg to do with issue 2
is already in my head the main tilte is GREAT CATCH BY FLYING MUTANT
and my othert headline is RAPH LIKES LITTLE MARSHMELLOWS IN HOT CHOCLATE

P.S (off topic) i finally got a post thats more then 1 page (yahoooo) :D :D

[Nickokapo]

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

...
in my head the main tilte is GREAT CATCH BY FLYING ALIEN
and my othert headline is RAPH LIKES LITTLE MARSHMELLOWS IN HOT CHOCLATE
...
You know fraggle, i'm seriously starting to worry about your mental health :(
But if this makes you happy then keep posting it or whatever :P i'm sick of war myself already so i understand.

[The Defibrillator]

first of all, Zenrick, BIC Donnie, and Duke are my new heros.

second, this war is NOT about personal gain for Bush. What does he get from this? only a buncha stupid people that hate him and proclaim to want peace!

the reason for the war is to eradicate forces that have the potential power to kill THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of innocent people, American, Iraqi, or otherwise. Saddam, the Iraqi regime, and other networks, have used these weapons before and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't stop to do it again.

barkworm was talkin about the bible and war. believe it or not, there ARE times when God was in favor of war. When it is for a good cause (like preventing the deaths of thousands of innocent people) war can be a good thing, or it will have been a good thing after it is over.

I don't like war more than anybody else here, and I hope this ends soon, but it still has to happen sometime.

And Tokka, you have got to be pretty stupid to think that it would be better in Iraq than here in America. You say America barely has any freedom. before this war, Saddam controlled EVERYTHING in Iraq. That means the TV, radio, and practically everything else you can think of. On the other hand, here in America, we have more freedom than any other country IN THE WORLD! Go live in China for a while. You have no experience as to what it is like outside of america, so you think it's a dump here. seriously man, here we really are blessed.

Proud to be an American!

[Fraggle]

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

thankyou Nickokapo i've never been so hounered im my entire life also i am going to see a psycrisast because of my problems.

:tcouch: this will proberly be me on the couch well not atcully on the couch but hiding behind

[Nickokapo]

:lol: It'd probably make it easier for the psychologist to treat you if you would actually sit on the couch, dontcha think? ;)

[Duke]

first of all, Zenrick, BIC Donnie, and Duke are my new heros.
:D

[Zenrick]

This is my last post concerning the Iraq war because there is no point in discussing this with people who not even try to understand that people have absolutely no right to say they are fulfilling God's wishes by using violence. Besides, my home is Germany, most people here got what this war is about, so the whole war-thing shouldn't be of my business. It just makes me angry...
P.S. Zenrick, your post just shows that you don't know anything about Africa at all.

I'm glad this is your last post seeing as how you really have no understanding of this war.....I'm glad you proved to me that I have won. You should read Teenage Mutant Ninja Hobbits post.....its really good, then you might see some sort of light.
Oh and when you say I know nothing about Africa try justifying your statement before saying it......little do you know that I go to college with many men from Ghana and Kenya, they've tought me quite a bit. adios!

[Duke]

Whole Africa is "in need", they have no food, civil wars everywhere, BUT WHO HELPS THEM???America was in Somalia less than 10 years ago. Go watch the movie Black Hawk Down

[Barkworm]

I'm glad this is your last post seeing as how you really have no understanding of this war.....I'm glad you proved to me that I have won.
You know in Germany we say the smarter ones stop first!
:D :D :D

[Zenrick]

You know in Germany we say the smarter ones stop first!
:D :D :D

In America we say "YEEEEEEEEEEHAW!" and squaredance until the sun rises. So maybe you're right!

[Duke]

You know in Germany we say the smarter ones stop first!
:D :D :DHow could anyone post against Bush when there from Germany? You guys had Hitler.

[Barkworm]

You know in Germany we say the smarter ones stop first!
:D :D :DHow could anyone post against Bush when there from Germany? You guys had Hitler.
Oh yeah, great point! He still reigns, you know...and we all here love him.

[Duke]

I never said he still reigns. Notice the key word had.

[Barkworm]

Ever heard of sarcasm??? :evilgrin:
And of course Germany had Hitler, so noone knows better where the mistreatment of power leads to. But we should really stop this discussion, it obviously leads to nowhere. Let's have have fun again! :D
In America we say "YEEEEEEEEEEHAW!" and squaredance until the sun rises. So maybe you're right!
BTW, that was a good one! :lol:

[Duke]

Ever heard of sarcasm???I'm not stupid i know it was sarcasm.

[Tokka-B]

lol hobbit, I can name you plenty of countries that have the potential to kill 1000's of innocent lives, us inlcuded :lol: I probably wouldn't want to live in China because I wouldn't have an incentive to work, but then again, their economy is so much better than ours now. War may have been the only option, but the fact will always stand that we didn't bother to use other options first, and got too hotheaded. Even if war had to occur, which I highly doubt civilized people should conclude to, (for those of you who think Bush is civilized :lol: ) We would need more support than great britain. We violated UN laws and sanctions by invading Iraq and cleansing our imperialistic needs. Could it get any worse? Maybe, there could be more terrirst attacks now.. :cry:

[heretic888]

lol hobbit, I can name you plenty of countries that have the potential to kill 1000's of innocent lives, us inlcuded

Yup.

I probably wouldn't want to live in China because I wouldn't have an incentive to work, but then again, their economy is so much better than ours now.

I dunno about that..... communism tends to be very unstable economically in the long-run. Just ask Russia.

War may have been the only option

I think so.

but the fact will always stand that we didn't bother to use other options first, and got too hotheaded.

Not really. Weapons inspections took place for over 12 years and were obviously unsuccessful. And, even when the Bush administration was "a'gunnin' fer war", they took a very lengthy diplomatic process that lasted nearly 2 years. To tell you the truth, I haven't heard any valid 'options' that haven't been used in the past. I'm afraid war was the only way.

Even if war had to occur, which I highly doubt civilized people should conclude to

I conclude that, and I consider myself to be quite 'civilized'.

for those of you who think Bush is civilized

Oh, he's civilized.... just not very articulate.

We would need more support than great britain.

Not really. American military power is impressive to say the very least. Besides, we do have 'more than great britain': australia, spain, portugal, etc. etc... of course, the more the merrier.

We violated UN laws and sanctions by invading Iraq

Not really. Resolution 1441, as well as a few others, give any nation of the UN justification to use force against Iraq for violation of UN sanctions. We didn't 'violate' any international laws by doing this. The countries opposing war, however, by refusing to enforce UN sanctions, are violating UN authority though.

cleansing our imperialistic needs.

There is nothing imperialistic about this war. Unless the US makes Iraq some kind of Middle Eastern version of Puerto Rico (which is highly unlikely), then there is no claim to imperialism here.

Could it get any worse?

Yes.

Maybe, there could be more terrirst attacks now..

Of course there will, it's inevitable.

[Tokka-B]

Well China is really the only communist country that has proven to be successful, so it usually set aside form countries like russia and north korea.

Yes, we have been trying weapons inspections for 12 years, but after 12 years of failure, wouldn't you think there would need to be a change in the procedures? Probably a more enhanced weapons inspections task could work. If inspections continue to fail, perhaps a more effective way to approach this is try new energy sources for our cars and try to boycott oil altogether. I don't know what would work, I am not a prophet, but we still could have tried many other ways to deal with this.

Article 2(4) of the UN Charter states: “All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations."
War without a new, specific U.N. resolution based upon evidence of Saddam's continued non-compliance with U.N. demands would undermine the U.N. and the ideal of a world system based on lawful principles.

Well, it is pretty obvious that we are a stronger country than Iraq, militarily speaking, but that isn't what we need help with. Where are we going to get money to rebuild Iraq? The regime's money? No, already Iraqi citizens are saying we are invaders, this is there money, if they wanted to rebuild Iraq it would have to come from us. We don't have that kind of money right now, so who do we turn to?

Yes, this has been imperialistic so far, we have invaded their country with like 250,000 troops, if that isn't an invasion I don't know what is. If we control the oil wells after this war, it will further prove my point, but that has yet to come.

[Duke]

Well China is really the only communist country that has proven to be successful, so it usually set aside form countries like russia and north korea.China has not always been economically succesful. Look at the time they tried to manufactor their own steal instead of importanting it.

[Tokka-B]

I know, no country has always been economically successful, I was just sayng how China is actually quite a successful country for communism...

[heretic888]

Well China is really the only communist country that has proven to be successful, so it usually set aside form countries like russia and north korea.

China has only been financially successful in recent years, and that's only because they have begun to embrace capitalism.

Yes, we have been trying weapons inspections for 12 years, but after 12 years of failure

It wasn't so much that the inspectors 'failed' as much as they were deceived by Saddam Hussein. The simple truth is that the inspectors genuinely BELIEVED Iraq had disarmed when in fact he did not (for example, Hussein used biochemical weapons on the Kurds living in Iraq as late as 1998, killing over 5000).

wouldn't you think there would need to be a change in the procedures?

The procedures were changed and revised. And more than once. But, then end result was the same.... it didn't matter how they changed because Hussein still deceived the inspectors every single time.

Probably a more enhanced weapons inspections task could work.

Ok, now we are just falling into the realm of groundless idealism. An 'enhanced' weapons inspection?? What exactly is 'enhanced'?? That's like saying communism doesn't work do we should adopt an 'ehanced' communist system....... a little more concrete procedures please. I would like to know how you think the inspections could be done that hasn't been tried in the past.

If inspections continue to fail, perhaps a more effective way to approach this is try new energy sources for our cars and try to boycott oil altogether.

Eh?? Ok.... these inspections have nothing to do with oil. They have to do with Hussein possessing weapons he is not supposed to have. How does us using electric cars stop Hussein from gassing Kurds???

I don't know what would work, I am not a prophet, but we still could have tried many other ways to deal with this.


Okay, Tokka, now you are just contradicting yourself. You say you "don't know what would work" but still say there are "many other ways to deal with this". Well, obviously these "other ways" of yours exist in the idealistic realm of "maybes" and "possibilities" and lack any kind of concrete, practical application. This strikes me more as groundless (yet understandable) hope more than anything else.

War without a new, specific U.N. resolution based upon evidence of Saddam's continued non-compliance with U.N. demands would undermine the U.N. and the ideal of a world system based on lawful principles.

Yah see, Tokka, you just answered yourself.... Resolution 1441 (as well as others, such as 786 I believe) DOES give us the legality to use force against Iraq. It flatly says that if Iraq does not disarm, the members of the UN are given jurisdiction to use force to make them disarm. Obviously, Iraq has not complied. Thus, we (along with the rest of the UN) are given the right to force them to comply.

This most recent resolution (which was the 18TH resolution against Iraq), which failed, was more an ongoing formality than anything else. It was only a matter of time until the war took place. Saddam has not been cooperating for the past 12 years. What makes you think things would be different now??

Well, it is pretty obvious that we are a stronger country than Iraq, militarily speaking, but that isn't what we need help with.

Obviously not, given the success of the war thus far.

Where are we going to get money to rebuild Iraq? The regime's money? No, already Iraqi citizens are saying we are invaders, this is there money, if they wanted to rebuild Iraq it would have to come from us. We don't have that kind of money right now, so who do we turn to?

The United Nations has already offered humanitarian aid in a post-war Iraq to the United States. And, funds could always be channeled by the Iraqi oil reserves (which is why its an absolute travesty that Hussein is attempting to have them destroyed). There are other organizations that will be willing to lend a helping hand as well, such as the World Bank.

Yes, this has been imperialistic so far, we have invaded their country with like 250,000 troops, if that isn't an invasion I don't know what is.

You obviously don't know what imperialism is. Your definition of 'imperialistic' is simply 'military action'. Trust me, study a little history, you haven't seen ANYTHING even resembling imperialism yet (unless you include the USSR).

If we control the oil wells after this war, it will further prove my point, but that has yet to come.

No, it doesn't further your point. Taking control of a threatening nation and reforming it is not imperialism. If that were the case, then America's 'imperialistic' reforming of Japan and West Germany shows us that 'imperialism' can obviously have positive results. Again, military action is not necessarily imperialistic. Iraq is not going to be a part of the 'American empire' (which does not exist). Iraq will most likely be a Middle Eastern version of Japan.

Besides, the United States won't have control of the oil--- the Coalition forces will.

[Tokka-B]

Tighten enforcement of the UN weapons embargo.

Stationing inspectors and monitoring technology (such as x-ray scanners and chemical sensors) at border crossings, as well as at the port of Aqaba, could help prevent Iraq from acquiring weapons and components from abroad. Monitoring and inspection could also be tightened at Iraq's main port, Basra. In addition, a more vigorous, multilateral effort to expose and penalize arms embargo violators would address the supply side.

Another alternative is to expand programs to secure and safely destroy WMD stockpiles in the former Soviet Union and elsewhere. (that means us too, no country should be superior than another in my opinion)

But you see, by going into Iraq we are breaking more codes than we are obeying, it destroys a purpose of our invasion. We never won a vote anyway for the resolution, most of the world is against us. You say what makes me think Saddam would comply now as opposed to any other time within the past 12 years. Well, what makes you think he will attack us all of a sudden when he hasn't for the past 12 years?

Success so far in the war? Does that mean killing thousands of Iraqis? Sorry, but IMHO you don't kill a person to save one. This point is a matter of ethics.

The funds that are channeled to by the Iraqi oil reserves should be given to the Iraqis, not us, or a coalition...

I say I don't know what would work, because no one does, but I say what might work, and out of the possibilities, war should always come last, but even then I am a little wary about it.....

Alternate energy sources is a boycott to oil. What does Iraq get the money to buy weapons from? Oil. Without money, he can't gas kurds or other people, maybe then he will change, money always has a negative effect on people. Just think these things out in a logical step by step manner and you will soon get it too heretic. If I say something it might not directly relate to what we were currently talking about, but I thought you'd handle the comparison quite easily....

[Duke]

China has only been financially successful in recent years, and that's only because they have begun to embrace capitalism.Are you a Capitalist yourself heretic?

[Zenrick]

Are you a Capitalist yourself heretic?

No, he is an Archetypal Energy Conservationalist

[Tokka-B]

hahaha, Zenrick you typed the exact words that I would have, lol... :lol: :lol:

[Duke]

Are you a Capitalist yourself heretic?

No, he is an Archetypal Energy Conservationalist :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Zenrick]

;)

[Fraggle]

:( a little off topic i won't be posting anymore messages today because i have got my operation and its a day case and i might have to stay over night so i might see you guys tomorrow.

Whoo my post is more than 4 pages long

[Nickokapo]

:teek: You got an operation?Yikes, get well soon dude :P i have got lots of operations and i can tell ya there's nothing tah' worry about.

[Zenrick]

:teek: You got an operation?Yikes, get well soon dude :P i have got lots of operations and i can tell ya there's nothing tah' worry about.

Operation was an annoying game............I think it was the source of most of my childhood problems...I mean how are we supposed to learn patience from this?? It freaking scared the CRAP outta me when I'd hit the sides and I'd eventually flip out and never finish a single game. The creator of this game should be forced to play his own stupid creation for a year straight. grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[Tokka-B]

Yea, that game was more frustrating than making you patient... :x

[Fraggle]

i am back from my hernia operation and i finding it really hard to move im just playin on the internet because siting is so much easier.

p.s i can't wait for TMNT Fox BOX 2 com to uk that shredder episode sound really cool because my fav turtle is leo

[Raven]

im weird

[Nickokapo]

We know that major pain! :rolling:

[Tokka-B]

I don't think weird is extensive enough pain.....

Glad you feel better UK