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Powder
03-18-2010, 05:04 AM
Well there have been tons of excellent, well developed & visually appealing characters in the crazy TMNT realm, but yet many bad ones aswell. Who are your most hated characters in all timelines & universes? I imagine many will say venus...


Me personally, I HATE touch & go from 2k3. Not too fond of bonesteel or vam mi from TNM either. As for the OT, Mr. Ogg... & for the comics? Well how could I hate anyone in my lovely little mirage universe? None come to mind at the moment.


TELL ME.

Luzmagica
03-18-2010, 05:37 AM
I dont really hate Venus ...maybe in other circumstances she could be a nice aditional character...
I dont like neither Mr Touch & Go, from 2k3, and I dont like Mr. Vernon from OT.

Vivi
03-18-2010, 06:00 AM
Touch & Go, Nano and the Garbageman. zzzzz
Although I did like Nano after he was transformed into a superhero -- the character design was much better after that, not to mention he wasn't behaving like a 2 year old.

Venom
03-18-2010, 06:24 AM
Early Nano was creepy in a tragic way, basically a sentient being who was being manipulated into doing wrong thinking it was being shown love in return.

Alex
03-18-2010, 07:32 AM
I like Venus in Next Mutation. But I don't think she would fit in any other TMNT universe.

I didn't like the episode with Garbageman, including himself.

CyberCubed
03-18-2010, 11:59 AM
Most TMNT villains are one-shots that there's no reason to form a major opinion on them.

Roseangelo
03-18-2010, 12:29 PM
Carter and Keno. Both are completely unnecessary (and annoying) "sidekicks."

CyberCubed
03-18-2010, 01:35 PM
I think the reason I like Keno is simply due to nostalgia of seeing the second movie as a kid. I now realize he blatantly had Casey Jones role.

It would have been better if Raph and Casey infiltrated the Foot instead of Keno.

Icebot
03-18-2010, 01:42 PM
I guess mine are Garbageman, Triple-Threat and Jammerhead. It's hard to find a character to not like in such a great show, so I just picked the ones that bore me the most.

ToTheNines
03-18-2010, 01:50 PM
Mirage: This is a hard one, but I'll have to say Justice Force. And those chicks that worked for Braunze in "Mined Games" were really annoying and seemed to come out of no where.

OT: Carter. April. A lot of other characters are ceratinly forgetable, but I don't really hate them.

Movies: Whit. It was just dumb how they had Elias playing two roles. Don in the first one was just off, we all know it.

Archie: Animus, so stupid. Kid Terra, why was he a cowboy? lol

2k3: JUSTICE FORCE. Their every appearance made me cringe. Hard. I was also annoyed by Zanramon and Gyogi. And of course Mikey was abused by certain writers.

TMNT: The monsters. Leo was kind of an ass, although I loved his voice actor.

Mutated Turtle
03-18-2010, 03:57 PM
Mondo gecko,ray filet,zach 5th turtle.Those are the ones i hate

Powder
03-18-2010, 04:02 PM
Mondo gecko,ray filet,zach 5th turtle.Those are the ones i hate

How can you hate mondo geck & ray fillet?!


Yeah all of the villains from fast forward sucked it seemed... I totally love the dark turtles though. Never was fond of nanobot or garbageman either, nor the justice force. Forgot those guys.

rav4ge
03-18-2010, 06:30 PM
GarbagemanHe is pretty lame yeah. But then again, that episode was total filler anyway.

oldmanwinters
03-18-2010, 06:48 PM
I made Zach a little "tribute":
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Heh, yeah Zach was pretty unbearable even if he was voiced by Rob Paulson. Unfortunately, his big brother and girlfriend were even worse! I think they should have aged him in the Red Sky seasons instead of bringing in Carter. It might have brought some redemption to him. Maybe...

As far as the 2k3 series, I was ok with Silver Sentry as a one-shot character even if I didn't really care much for it except as a parody. I liked Nano and Nobody but man the Justice Force episodes were pretty hard to sit through. Too bad they couldn't have stayed comic book characters. OT Bugman was a much better take on that theme!

Koi
03-18-2010, 07:44 PM
My top has to be Cody from fast forward, but that is only because for some reason he annoys the crud out of me. I have to agree with the Justice force Powder.

As for the older shows I my biggest itch has to be Mona Lisa, she really wasn't a very well-developed character (most likely do to only having one episode) and her story line was really... already done, been their done that type of feel. I could understand why they got rid of her.

As for Venus, frankly I have only seen like 3 of the Next Mutation episodes, and that is counting the Power Ranger episode cross. But she didn't really strike me as that bad...

But still Cody takes the cake.

rav4ge
03-18-2010, 08:17 PM
I made Zach a little "tribute"Hah, that was great. The music during the end credits sounds kinda familiar... is it from Destroy All Monsters?

oldmanwinters
03-18-2010, 08:35 PM
Hah, that was great. The music during the end credits sounds kinda familiar... is it from Destroy All Monsters?

Thanks, man! Glad you enjoyed it!
It might have been used in that movie (I've never seen it, doh!) but it's from the original 1954 Gojira score.

Turo602
03-18-2010, 08:37 PM
I really liked everyone and would love to see all of them in a badass Ultimate TMNT cartoon so they could have a giant rouges gallery. But just one sucks really bad, Venus. She was the worst thing to happen to TMNT. Wait scratch that, Next Mutation was the worst thing. Zach was alright, Fast Foward was good as a Side Show, Garbage Man was cool for being dark and having an intresting orgin that should of been made for us to watch, Nano was good at the begining, Touch and Go just seem like one time guys, Justice Force are good but shouldn't be whored out, Metal Head could be used cooler and darker as well as Slash, Rat King needs more attention, Shredder is just Shredder, Krang could be used as more of a threat, Bebop and Rocksteady could also be more of a threat, and everyone else was good but either needed some tweeks or was just fine the way they are, But Next Mutation was just a disease that TMNT fought off.

Spacebabie
03-18-2010, 08:45 PM
OT: Zach and Vernon.

4Kids: Cody, he just reeked of Gary Stu-ness.

Samhain
03-18-2010, 09:01 PM
Cody for sure. Annoying little thing.

TheUltimateShredhead
03-19-2010, 07:16 AM
shreeka and irma are the only one i can come up with :ohwell:

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
03-19-2010, 07:38 AM
I really liked everyone and would love to see all of them in a badass Ultimate TMNT cartoon so they could have a giant rouges gallery. But just one sucks really bad, Venus. She was the worst thing to happen to TMNT. Wait scratch that, Next Mutation was the worst thing. Zach was alright, Fast Foward was good as a Side Show, Garbage Man was cool for being dark and having an intresting orgin that should of been made for us to watch, Nano was good at the begining, Touch and Go just seem like one time guys, Justice Force are good but shouldn't be whored out, Metal Head could be used cooler and darker as well as Slash, Rat King needs more attention, Shredder is just Shredder, Krang could be used as more of a threat, Bebop and Rocksteady could also be more of a threat, and everyone else was good but either needed some tweeks or was just fine the way they are, But Next Mutation was just a disease that TMNT fought off.

I would also like to see a tougher Slash than that annoying guy looking for his palmtree.

Koi
03-19-2010, 08:31 AM
What about people's most disliked/hated ninja turtle? There has got to be a generation of a turtle that you find irritating or horribly done.

TheUltimateShredhead
03-19-2010, 08:52 AM
I think slash are aawesome the way he is, like most characters from ot

Damien Kash
03-19-2010, 11:15 AM
....I actually like Mr.Touch and Mr.Go..... :tconfuse:

TMNT_Guy
03-19-2010, 06:52 PM
Zack the 5th Turtle- Do I really need to explain this one?

Caitlyn- "Hey, let's take Zack give him a ponytail and put him in a pink shirt! Surely this will attract more girls to this series about four Teenage Mutant MALE Ninja Turtles."

Neutrinos- They are just mondo annoying, daddy-yo! I tell ya pops, the only groovy episode is the one where April takes care that baby Neutrino, but only because we get to see what April's life is like when she's not being rescued by the turtles. Plus we got lots of shots of April in a night gown...daddy-yo!

Justice Force- I remember how excited I was when I got Season 1 part 1 of 2of the 2003 turtles on DVD. It was EPIC. It was like growing up with the Adam West Batman series, mind you that was EPIC for different reasons, and seeing Batman the Animated series for the first time. Yeah, I was hooked after the first episode and glued by The Shredder Strikes, Part 2.

So I'm all hyper, loving this new darker, more REALISTIC show when I get to episode 12. Let's see how it goes:

*Mikey wants to save some people trapped in a burning building but the others say no because it would expose them to the public.*

MIKEY: "But who will save them?"
RALPH: HE will!

TMNT_GUY: The firefighters?

*Shot of a DC comics superhero rip-off putting out the fire*

TMNT_GUY: .....oh, come on!

Quite literally how it went down. Every time those Justice Force characters appear is like looking at a cartoon pink poodle in the Last Supper. Even the original Mirage comic gave me that feeling,

Now of course in the original series I was able to suspend my disbelief for anything, but that’s because show always kept reminding the viewer just how absurd the idea of ninja turtles was.

King: Your costumes won.
Donatello: Yeah, I guess our "costumes" are pretty good.
King: No, no, no, not for greatness, for ridiculousness

Candy Kappa
03-19-2010, 07:16 PM
OT Slash, neutrinos all of them, Zack. That little side freak minion in NM, Keno, reno, leno... pizza kid from SOTO, every single character in TMNT3.

Powder
03-19-2010, 08:53 PM
Yeah I used to hate the neutrinos too but only when I was a very little kid. I think they're pretty rad now. Absurd no doubt, but cool in a new wave/future punk way. They're like, the spirit of 80's/90's arcade kids... I love that haha.

Lynn
03-19-2010, 08:59 PM
Casey Jones from the OT episodes. He seemed like he was psychopathic rather than simply fighting crime.

Samhain
03-19-2010, 09:00 PM
Casey Jones from the OT episodes. He seemed like he was psychopathic rather than simply fighting crime.

Haha, thats why I liked him.:lol:

Sage Ninja
03-19-2010, 11:57 PM
OT:

Slash: I'm sorry but so much more could have been done with him. They just had to make him super retarded. As if the show didn't consist of enough characters with low intelligence for the turtles to rip on.

Carter: he was a poor replacment for April. Sorry.

Dregg: yeah I know cliche as hell to dislike him, but I really couldn't stand him despite his two episdoes of coolness.

2k3:

The Ancient One: I liked him at first, but upon rewatching several of his episodes he becomes more and more annoying.

Master Kahn: Lost opertunity. This guy was just too generic to be liked.

The Tribunal: man I really wish they had stayed dead. They where arrogant and stupid, and too cold.

TMNT_Guy
03-20-2010, 12:23 AM
Slash wasn't retarded; he was after all a baby turtle in his first episode. Also I consider Slash to be the most sympathetic (If only) villain from the original series.

Picture this: you find yourself in a room. You no idea where you are or what you are except-your Binky. The only thing you've know since your birth, the only thing that you've ever loved.

Now you are forced to do chores, long hard chores, just so you can get a couple of seconds of your Binky, again the ONLY thing you know about the world.

Now it's gone. You’re Binky. The only thing you've ever known and loved-gone. You get angry. You get frustrated. You are after all only a baby.

Soon you find yourself lost, again without the only thing that has ever mattered to you. While this is all going on people keep telling you they will get you your Binky, at a price. You agree, being a child, a mutated child, but a child none the less. You agree only to be lied to and lied to.
"EVERYBODY TRICKS ME!"

In terms of the original series, Slash is the most unfortanet of them all. All he wanted was his Binky...to be loved and safe again.

...I may have over analyzed it, but my point still stands. I got tears in my eyes when he shouted that quote above me.

†Dr.Killpatients†
03-20-2010, 05:21 AM
Neutrinos. Can't imagine more infantile civilization plus their voices are really annoying.
O.T. Casey. He was such a barbarian.

Ulisses31
03-20-2010, 05:53 AM
Neutrinos all the way...:tmad:

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
03-20-2010, 06:08 AM
Neutrinos. Can't imagine more infantile civilization plus their voices are really annoying.
O.T. Casey. He was such a barbarian.

Maybe they are annoying, but I would better prefer an infantile civilization than this:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nagasakibomb.jpg

Ulisses31
03-20-2010, 06:32 AM
What does that have to do with TMNT? Keep on topic, or are you a Neutrino?:D

Scandia
03-20-2010, 09:48 AM
Drako is pure evil. This is the closest to a character that I would hate. But his episodes were good. So I cannot bring myself to hate him.

Ch'rell perhaps since there is no background as to why he became such a nasty war criminal? He is totally one-sided.

SwordofTengu
03-20-2010, 11:47 AM
2k3-Justice Force, Garbageman

Lol that's all I can think of I need to see more of the OT and the Archie comics.

Sage Ninja
03-20-2010, 03:11 PM
Slash wasn't retarded; he was after all a baby turtle in his first episode. Also I consider Slash to be the most sympathetic (If only) villain from the original series.

Picture this: you find yourself in a room. You no idea where you are or what you are except-your Binky. The only thing you've know since your birth, the only thing that you've ever loved.

Now you are forced to do chores, long hard chores, just so you can get a couple of seconds of your Binky, again the ONLY thing you know about the world.

Now it's gone. You’re Binky. The only thing you've ever known and loved-gone. You get angry. You get frustrated. You are after all only a baby.

Soon you find yourself lost, again without the only thing that has ever mattered to you. While this is all going on people keep telling you they will get you your Binky, at a price. You agree, being a child, a mutated child, but a child none the less. You agree only to be lied to and lied to.
"EVERYBODY TRICKS ME!"

In terms of the original series, Slash is the most unfortanet of them all. All he wanted was his Binky...to be loved and safe again.

...I may have over analyzed it, but my point still stands. I got tears in my eyes when he shouted that quote above me.

yeah maybe but they really pushed the envelope on him being dimwitted and slow just like all other kinds of characters on the shows for the turtles to look down on. And when compared to Slashes Archie counter-part, yeah I can say he's retarded by comparison.

and I would respectfully disagree that Slash was the most sympathtic. I kind have saw Baxter the Fly as way more tragic than any OT character. But that's all subjective.

Candy Kappa
03-20-2010, 06:21 PM
the interpretation of the turtles in NM was annoying

Coola Yagami
03-20-2010, 08:03 PM
Slash was more naive that flat-out dumb in his his first episode. TMNT_guy analyzed the episode perfectly. The Turtles had years of training and whatnot before they met April, and even then they were making niave-ish mistakes like Don not knowing how to use the answering machine and whatnot in April's apartment. Slash was mutated that very same day. Plus, he was able to take down all 4 Turtles by himself. They couldn't beat him in combat, they had to trick him to get rid of him.

The deal was the other episodes he was in. In 'Donatello trashes Slash', they were already rippin on him before he even appeared in the episode. And yes, the episode was all about how 'dumb-as-a-brick Slash' was now a super-genius, but he never acted THAT dumb in his premiere episode to begin with. Such an idea would have worked better with Bebop and Rocksteady who were already clearly established as morons. Then in 'Night of the Rogues' he became just another bad guy to get beaten with no problem, and acted extremely dumb to keep the whole 'Slash-is-so-dumb' thing they started with the last episode.

Revan
03-20-2010, 08:17 PM
What does that have to do with TMNT? Keep on topic, or are you a Neutrino?:D

The one and only!

I am reading a lot of Neutrino hate... And I get it, but the entire OT was absurd so having silly characters was what made it so great. I liked the neutrinoes when I was a kid and I still like them now.
I have a hard time picking characters from the OT that I hate just because I think the stupid ones were the most entertaining when I was a kid.

I do have a few characters I don't care for from the 2k3 series and from the comics.
The Justice Force sucks. Garbageman sucks. And Jammerhead sucks.
Bloodsucker was weird. And I don't think I really ever got Complete Carnage. He and Radical are strange to me

cowabunga14
03-20-2010, 08:20 PM
Carter and Garbageman for me. They always seemed as if they were characters that did nothing to add to both the old and new shows.

ToTheNines
03-20-2010, 08:26 PM
I don't get the Neutrino hate either.... I didn't like them the first time I watched season 1, but they quickly grew on me.

And while I hated the second Garbageman episode, I thought the first one was a great throw-back to the OT.

CyberCubed
03-20-2010, 08:46 PM
I can't bring myself to hate any original cartoon characters simply because they were all done to be as ridiculous as possible.

Even those one-shot mad scientists had some appeal, even the ugly crazy ones.

Redeemer
03-20-2010, 08:51 PM
OT-I enjoyed the Neutrinos. I have seen the first episode of slash and I hated him, but the second episode he sounds awesome. I truthfully only hate Mr.Ogg.

2K3- I hate justice force and I love how dark shredder is but I hate that he is an alien. I loved hun at first as well, but I hate him in btts.

Next Mutation-I didn't hate venus, but Laird hates her so much he denies her as a part of the TMNT universe.

Bottom Line
OT-Mr. ogg
2K3-Justice Force and BTTS-Hun
Next Mutation-None

Srry But I forgot to mention I have to give a shout out to- Oldmanwinters
Those are some awesome sketches. Two thumbs up on them!!!!

Scandia
03-20-2010, 09:09 PM
Mr. Ogg! How could I have forgotten about him? Glad he is only in one episode. Because he is truly despicable.

Coola Yagami
03-21-2010, 12:09 AM
Yet in the episode 'Turtlemaniac' that guy had a Mr. Ogg wax statue amongst all the other Turtle memorbilia.

Wildcat
03-21-2010, 12:51 AM
Neutrinos, especially that girl that had a crush on Michelangelo.

Cody Jones but only because FF was pretty dumb to begin with.

I like Keno. Even today. I always thought he was cool for some reason.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
03-21-2010, 06:04 AM
Neutrinos, especially that girl that had a crush on Michelangelo.


Her name is Kala.

Revan
03-21-2010, 11:29 AM
Upon further deliberation, I think I figured why I go easier on OT characters. It's because they were created with the intention of being silly. It's a comedic show, not to be taken seriously... the goofier, the better.
It's the 2k3 series and Mirage that I find more fault with stupid characters because they are based less on comedy and more on adventure.

For me, I have to be in a certain state of mind when I watch the characters. If you sit down to watch the OT and are hoping for a gritty serious show, you probably can add EVERY character to your "most hated character" list because they all fall short of any real seriousness.

Ulisses31
03-21-2010, 11:39 AM
Wow Neutrinos are here... Krang fast call Tragg...

http://www.x-entertainment.com/articles/0804/8.jpg

TTTRRAAAGGG

:D

ryukenden
03-21-2010, 02:41 PM
It just annoyed me that Venus had to be the most mature of the group in TNM.

turtle1237
03-21-2010, 05:55 PM
To me, that guy that look like Buddy Holly in the old cartoon.

Unlike the REAL Buddy Holly, this guy could not sing if his life depended on it.

He was so bad at singing, he was breaking stuff just by singing. I cant belive he came back for other go around in the mask of the phatom like showing.

He was even worse in his return.


I had to put the show on mute just when I saw a getar in his hand lol.

Candy Kappa
03-21-2010, 06:02 PM
It just annoyed me that Venus had to be the most mature of the group in TNM.

power of boobs struck them dumb:lol:

Revan
03-21-2010, 06:46 PM
To me, that guy that look like Buddy Holly in the old cartoon.

Howie? That guy actually was a bit over the top on the annoying scale I'll admit... even for tmnt

Powder
03-21-2010, 06:50 PM
To me, that guy that look like Buddy Holly in the old cartoon.

Unlike the REAL Buddy Holly, this guy could not sing if his life depended on it.

He was so bad at singing, he was breaking stuff just by singing. I cant belive he came back for other go around in the mask of the phatom like showing.

He was even worse in his return.


I had to put the show on mute just when I saw a getar in his hand lol.


YES! I was gonna put him in my original post but I couldn't remember his name. Now its come to me though, it was Howie. Gahhhh so annoying.

turtle1237
03-21-2010, 08:34 PM
Howie was his name. Great.


I just never understood why they think bad singing was funny.

Sure they had other people I didnt think much of, but at least most of thsos guys had something that Howie lack.

Zack and his girlfreind were like GODs in the cart department compare to Howie lol. Add in Zack's brother too.

I started being a fan of them after Howie made his showing.

ToTheNines
03-21-2010, 08:43 PM
I didn't like Howie, but his first episode is quite enjoyable, I think. His second appearance... I watched it once, and never again :)

Kendamu
03-22-2010, 12:38 AM
Lessee... I hate most of the mad scientists from Seasons 4-6 of the OT... and that one guy who was a musician who looks like Woody Allen. That guy can go choke.

Cipher
03-22-2010, 03:04 AM
There are characters who've irritated me, and characters I've been ambivalent about.

But the only one I have ever thought was an objectively negative contribution to the mythos is the Ancient One.

The Ancient One sucks. For many, many reasons. The fact that he became something of a major character for two seasons was also a tragedy.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
03-22-2010, 09:43 AM
Lessee... I hate most of the mad scientists from Seasons 4-6 of the OT... and that one guy who was a musician who looks like Woody Allen. That guy can go choke.

You mean this episode? http://www.ninjaturtles.com/cartoon/guide/cart085.htm

The plot is silly, like this:
"-Oh yeah, Adolf Hitler tried to take over the Earth with tanks. Let's us take over the Earth with a band. "

TMNT_Guy
03-26-2010, 12:50 AM
and I would respectfully disagree that Slash was the most sympathtic. I kind have saw Baxter the Fly as way more tragic than any OT character. But that's all subjective.
The only time Baxter deserved any sympathy from the audience was his first episode. He made those Mousers to help the city's rat problem and what does he get out of it? He gets committed to a mental institution for claiming he saw mutant turtles.

After Shredder breaks him out, however, he starts doing evil acts purposely even betraying the Shredder at some points for world domination and power. He didn't have to.

So, if you go with the logic "You do bad things, bad things happen to you." then he got what was coming to him.

Powder
03-26-2010, 01:18 AM
Captain Cruelick.


Yeah... meh.

TheCanadiandrome
03-26-2010, 12:45 PM
Venus from Next Mutation.