View Full Version : Why did Shredder/Krang always go to NYC to take over the world?
CyberCubed
03-21-2010, 04:54 PM
Ignoring the, "its just a cartoon," angle, Shredder/Krang know the Turtles live in NYC. The dimensional portal could transport Shredder to any place on Earth.
So why do they keep planning all their evil schemes in NYC, when instead they could go to Britian, South America, Australia, Asia, or anywhere else in the world and plan their evil world domination schemes there instead?
The Turtles would have no clue what they're doing, and it would take them awhile to fly their blimp over to where they are.
Thoughts?
Roseangelo
03-21-2010, 05:06 PM
They tried going to South Dakota once, but the Turtles still stopped them. And then all those European episodes. It doesn't matter where they go, the Turtles are gonna stop them. I'd guess sticking to New York most of the time would just be more convenient.
ToTheNines
03-21-2010, 05:24 PM
I can not believe you made this thread lol
Candy Kappa
03-21-2010, 05:48 PM
Why did Shredder/Krang always go to NYC to take over the world?
The plot said so:tgrin:
turtle1237
03-21-2010, 05:58 PM
The plot said so:tgrin:
Shredder blame the writters a few times lol.
Icebot
03-21-2010, 06:35 PM
Shredder and the turtles also went to Niagra Falls in Return of the Technodrome. And what about the punk frogs? They're from Florida. The turtles battled Shredder there one time.
I was actually surprised they never went to Japan. Of course there was The Legend of Koji but they never went there in the present.
TheCanadiandrome
03-21-2010, 06:39 PM
Shredder blame the writters a few times lol.
rofl!!! :tlol:
Powder
03-21-2010, 06:48 PM
Well isn't NY kinda like the financial epicenter of America? The UN, the statue of liberty, twin towers RIP, wall street, these are all symbols of power so to speak (& freedom in the case of the big green chick) so it makes sense to me. Not to mention, Saki's arch nemesis, was Hamato Yoshi, who lived in... you guessed it, NYC.
Scandia
03-21-2010, 08:12 PM
Largest city in the world's most powerful country?
Somebody else did have a vendetta against NYC, after all :(
ToTheNines
03-21-2010, 08:25 PM
Well isn't NY kinda like the financial epicenter of America? The UN, the statue of liberty, twin towers RIP, wall street, these are all symbols of power so to speak (& freedom in the case of the big green chick) so it makes sense to me. Not to mention, Saki's arch nemesis, was Hamato Yoshi, who lived in... you guessed it, NYC.
That's not really the point. In season 3 they were always looking for power for the Technodrome. There are multiple places to get sources of energy on the globe, but they always went to NY and got effed.
... I can't believe I'm discussing this :P
Why did Shredder/Krang always go to NYC to take over the world?
I think the pattern is more that they always followed wherever the Turtles went. After all, they targeted European countries a few times. The logic behind it? Well... There isn't any.
Well they weren't always trying to take over the world, I mean it was their objective but not what they were trying to do every single episode. Sometimes they just tried to defeat the turtles and sometimes they were just trying to steal resources for whatever reason in which case the resources always seemed to be located in NYC since it is a big city.
And for the other times I guess they thought that if they could defeat the turtles no one could stop them so they went after NYC first to see the turtles try to stop them and if they defeated them then it was all a cake walk after that.
I mean thats the best explanations I can come up with besides the fact that its a show.
Coola Yagami
03-21-2010, 11:58 PM
Makes sense. I mean, defeat the Turtles first, then noone can stop them. And of course, Shredder always wants revenge on the Turtles... so....
odupianist
03-22-2010, 07:52 AM
Have you seen the gas prices lately? Do you know how big the Technodrome's gas tank is? Seriously, it's an easy answer if you really thought about.
ToTheNines
03-22-2010, 09:03 AM
Have you seen gas prices in the 80's/90's? lol
Ulisses31
03-22-2010, 09:32 AM
80´s great era... no one would question something like this then... just would have fun seeing the show...:D
But this question can be made about almost USA media production... but the answer is simple... why NYC was in almost 80´s productions (see movies from the 80/90´s)... because there was the source of the money to make them and some of the target market.
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
03-22-2010, 09:37 AM
80´s great era... no one would question something like this then... just would have fun seeing the show...:D
But this question can be made about almost USA media production... but the answer is simple... why NYC was in almost 80´s productions (see movies from the 80/90´s)... because there was the source of the money to make them and some of the target market.
I did. I would think it would be more fun with more adventures in the rural parts of the USA. Casey Jones grandmother had a farm in most TMNT versions.
Ulisses31
03-22-2010, 09:47 AM
Yes we know that the cartoon and the original run comics were so different...
Cartoons - for kids (target age 3 to 11)
Comics - for teens (target age 10 to 19)
Not just that but who read the original comic always see the cartoon has something lame.:trazz:
That were the cartoons then... and I believe were much better than today... too much violence, too much "real", to much "explained" cartoons nowadays, were go the silly fun?:teek:
cowabunga14
03-22-2010, 08:28 PM
Probably because they were villians and that's what most villains goal is.
Prowler
03-29-2010, 03:34 PM
I can not believe you made this thread lol
This.
It's an American cartoon and most of the action takes place in NYC.
In Anime aliens go to Tokyo to take over the Earth.
Newton Gimmick
03-29-2010, 03:41 PM
Exactly, it's a regional thing.
Now would the TMNT always been in NYC had the real TMNT (or original TMNT) already had a connection to them? Probably not. They likely would have just made up a place. But since NYC was already there and established it made sense.
In the UK, Doctor Who is always saving England. The bad guys always go there.
In Japan, Godzilla and friends always go there.
Same deal here.
Less interesting if they attack Tulsa.
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
03-30-2010, 08:18 AM
This.
It's an American cartoon and most of the action takes place in NYC.
In Anime aliens go to Tokyo to take over the Earth.
Yes, but the USA is so much more than New York City.
TMNT88
03-30-2010, 10:52 AM
Leave NYC? Have you SEEN gas prices for a 100 ton roving city with a laser eyeball? :trazz:
Redeemer
03-30-2010, 12:54 PM
If not NYC Then where? Sidney?
rav4ge
03-30-2010, 02:58 PM
Shredder probably stays in NYC for the chinese food.
Ulisses31
03-30-2010, 03:20 PM
If not NYC Then where? Sidney?
Hong Kong or Rio de Janeiro. Or Paris, better sewers are there.
Samhain
03-30-2010, 03:32 PM
Shredder probably stays in NYC for the chinese food.
Heck thats reason enough for me!
Redeemer
03-30-2010, 05:33 PM
Chineese food= Awesomeness
Coola Yagami
03-31-2010, 02:54 AM
Shredder figures if he can make it in NY, he can make it anywhere....
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
03-31-2010, 06:37 AM
Hong Kong or Rio de Janeiro. Or Paris, better sewers are there.
Two "Vacation in Europe" episodes ("Tower of Power") and "Rust Never Sleeps" are set there.
NameGoesHere1066
03-31-2010, 01:00 PM
Ignoring the, "its just a cartoon," angle, Shredder/Krang know the Turtles live in NYC. The dimensional portal could transport Shredder to any place on Earth.
So why do they keep planning all their evil schemes in NYC, when instead they could go to Britian, South America, Australia, Asia, or anywhere else in the world and plan their evil world domination schemes there instead?
The Turtles would have no clue what they're doing, and it would take them awhile to fly their blimp over to where they are.
Thoughts?
I always wondered that my self. If I was trying to take over the world I sure as hell wouldn't keep striking where I'm garanteed to get busted.
Two "Vacation in Europe" episodes ("Tower of Power") and "Rust Never Sleeps" are set there.
And "TURTLES ON THE ORIENT EXPRESS".
Redeemer
03-31-2010, 10:27 PM
Here is the only thing I can figure.
-NYC/Manhattan have great natural boundries. Manhattan is a island surronded by water. NYC itself is heavily populated and all the tall buildings ensure good protection, not to mention alot of hostage situations. This would be ideal to fight off goverment military.
-Their greatest obsticle for world domanence is there. What is the point in trying if they will eventually be foiled.
-It is an ideal region for the technodrome sub-terranian activities. No fualt lines or volcanic area and good land above sea level. ex(Sidney sub sealeval in spots. Italy volcanic activity. West coast u.s. Many fualt lines. UK not enough sub terrain room.)
-Last but not least its a cartoon!
TheCanadiandrome
03-31-2010, 10:56 PM
Shredder figures if he can make it in NY, he can make it anywhere....
rofl! cue Sinatra! :tlol:
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
04-01-2010, 11:34 AM
And "TURTLES ON THE ORIENT EXPRESS".
I love that episode. Complain about the show being set in just some countries, but here they do France, Germany, Austria, Hungary and Romania within one episode.
TheCanadiandrome
04-01-2010, 03:05 PM
because the voices in their heads told them to
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
04-02-2010, 05:24 AM
because the voices in their heads told them to
I would like to see an episode set in Canada (musn't be about Shredder). It would probably be about ice hockey, and include Casey Jones.
The plot said so:tgrin:
*L* So true.
Redeemer
04-02-2010, 09:11 PM
I would like to see an episode set in Canada (musn't be about Shredder). It would probably be about ice hockey, and include Casey Jones.
Casey Jones vs The Shredder! lol
TheCanadiandrome
04-02-2010, 10:06 PM
I would like to see an episode set in Canada (musn't be about Shredder). It would probably be about ice hockey, and include Casey Jones.
Casey Jones vs The Shredder! lol
rofl, that would be sweet
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
04-04-2010, 11:57 AM
rofl, that would be sweet
Maybe a goof idea for a TMNT fan fiction story.
TheCanadiandrome
04-04-2010, 03:05 PM
Maybe a goof idea for a TMNT fan fiction story.
yeah for sure
It makes sense for Shredder and Krang to want to take over the world from New York City. Splinter, being Shredder's nememis, was there and Shredder couuld destroy the turtles. And since the turtles rarely left New York City...:D
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
04-05-2010, 09:24 AM
It makes sense for Shredder and Krang to want to take over the world from New York City. Splinter, being Shredder's nememis, was there and Shredder couuld destroy the turtles. And since the turtles rarely left New York City...:D
I would like to see that farm in the 1987 cartoon.
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