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saul
03-24-2010, 02:16 PM
He says basically: "You have not seen this until now..."

So, why exactly would he feel compelled to hide the canister from the turtles all this time? Especially since it wasn't a secret that the ooze came from a broken canister. Wouldn't the turtles want to see what was on the can?
Spitfire
03-24-2010, 02:25 PM
He knew if he showed them before that they would want to go to TGRI and check it out. They would be curious about their origins and he wouldn't be able to stop them. It'd be risky.

Or it was convenient for the plot of the 2nd movie and not the first so that's why.
Candy Kappa
03-24-2010, 02:55 PM
the plot monster said so
Powder
03-24-2010, 02:58 PM
We're really reaching for topics these days eh?
Candy Kappa
03-24-2010, 03:07 PM
I blame the plot:P
BoggleKng
03-24-2010, 03:07 PM
We're really reaching for topics these days eh?

Indeed.. :ohwell:
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
03-24-2010, 03:19 PM
He says basically: "You have not seen this until now..."

So, why exactly would he feel compelled to hide the canister from the turtles all this time? Especially since it wasn't a secret that the ooze came from a broken canister. Wouldn't the turtles want to see what was on the can?

Why are they always saying the ooze in the films? In the 1987 cartoon, it's "mutagen". And why is April working for Channel 3 instead of Channel 6?
lilmotto
03-24-2010, 08:07 PM
Why are they always saying the ooze in the films? In the 1987 cartoon, it's "mutagen". And why is April working for Channel 3 instead of Channel 6?

Politics.... I don't want to get into it
Coola Yagami
03-24-2010, 08:13 PM
Wasn't it also called ooze in the Mirage comics and 2K3?
Koi
03-24-2010, 08:27 PM
We're really reaching for topics these days eh?

It is better then the Raph vs. Leo thread.

Everything that Spitfire said, it looks like the best answer.
Turo602
03-24-2010, 09:30 PM
He knew if he showed them before that they would want to go to TGRI and check it out. They would be curious about their origins and he wouldn't be able to stop them. It'd be risky.

Or it was convenient for the plot of the 2nd movie and not the first so that's why.

Nope all wrong, Splinter found a new canister and told them that was the canister that had the ooze that mutated them all, because the canister in part one didn't say TGRI. So, they wouldn't go investigate anywhere before. It was just a plot hole:lol:
ToTheNines
03-24-2010, 10:03 PM
We can just use the classic "flashback excuse" for that one.
oldmanwinters
03-24-2010, 10:17 PM
We can just use the classic "flashback excuse" for that one.

So, it didn't say it because Splinter didn't tell us it said it? Ah, I see...
ToTheNines
03-24-2010, 10:47 PM
So, it didn't say it because Splinter didn't tell us it said it? Ah, I see...

Correct.

Another TMNT example: Splinter saying "utrom shredder" in the season 5 flashback, although he had no idea Shredder was an ooty.
DonatelloDomeHead31
03-24-2010, 11:59 PM
The title said: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Secret of the Ooze.

So if he had shown it before then, then it wouldn't be a secret :lol:
Turo602
03-25-2010, 12:20 AM
So, it didn't say it because Splinter didn't tell us it said it? Ah, I see...

No, Splinter told the story, and we saw the events of that time. He didn't have to say the Turtles had shells but we saw it anyway. So Splinter is a liar and found a new canister and was being dramatic for a movie's plot.:lol:
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
03-25-2010, 08:36 AM
Wasn't it also called ooze in the Mirage comics and 2K3?

I looked at the first 1984 Mirage issue on the Ninjaturtles webside http://www.ninjaturtles.com/comics/mirage/one/pg16.htm and it says ooze so that's correct.
Mighty Bebop
03-25-2010, 09:03 AM
Why are they always saying the ooze in the films? In the 1987 cartoon, it's "mutagen". And why is April working for Channel 3 instead of Channel 6?

I seem to recall the term "retromutagen ooze." Was that from the OT?
Ulisses31
03-25-2010, 09:28 AM
Nope all wrong, Splinter found a new canister and told them that was the canister that had the ooze that mutated them all, because the canister in part one didn't say TGRI. So, they wouldn't go investigate anywhere before. It was just a plot hole:lol:

Splinter wrote TGRI just to get the turtles to do his dirty work.:trolleye:
ToTheNines
03-25-2010, 11:02 AM
He didn't have to say the Turtles had shells but we saw it anyway.

Unless you're some sort of dumb f*ck, that's an assumed piece of information.
Luzmagica
03-25-2010, 11:55 AM
Maybe...Splinter show the canister because only April needs proofs-answers about her new friends origins...
He says basically: "You have not seen this until now..." (but they know about it before)...
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
03-26-2010, 07:59 AM
I seem to recall the term "retromutagen ooze." Was that from the OT?

It was a retromutagen gun in the 1987 cartoon, which was used to de-mutate organisms into their original form.