View Full Version : Doom doesn't know **** about Pokémon
Dr. Doom
03-25-2010, 10:44 AM
As I've said elsewhere, I just recently bought SoulSilver. The only other Pokémon game I've ever played was Yellow, when I rented it from Blockbuster like 10 years ago. So I have no ****ing clue what I'm doing.
The biggest issue I'm facing is not knowing what to do when I'm faced with the option of forgetting a move in favor of learning a new one. I feel like I've already ruined my Quilava by forgetting two of the earlier debuff moves he acquired by leveling, Leer (-Def) and Smokescreen (-Acc). Now I should note, I rarely ever used those moves at all. My Quilava is 24 and that's usually at the very least like 5 or 6 levels higher than anything I've faced so far. The wild Pokémon I run into are still like less than 10. So I can pretty much just one-shot most stuff if I'm not trying to level up another one of my Pokémon. But I worry about how this might effect Quilava (or Typhlosion, as he will evolve into) as I get further and further into the game, only having attacks and no status effects or debuffs. He currently has Quick Attack, Cut, Ember, and Flame Wheel. I kept Ember and Flame wheel at the same time because one is physical and one is special, though they both revolve around fire. I figured there was some application for having each, maybe against a Pokémon with greater physical defense or special defense. Quick Attack lets you attack immediately, so that replaced tackle as soon as I got it. And cut is what will let me chop down those tiny trees on the field.
I'm not really sure what direction to go in after that. Like if I should seek out TMs that will give me other status/debuff attacks, or if I really don't have anything to worry about, as well as what I should try to pursue going forward with my other Pokémon,
Peanut
03-25-2010, 11:19 AM
A little piece of advice, unless you're planning on becoming a Poketard who counts EV's and spends hundreds of hours breeding and hatching Pokemon to make sure they get the perfect stats and egg-learned moves, just forget about any kind of deep strategy. At all. Buffs and debuffs have so few actual in-game applications in all but the most dire situations. In most cases, you're going to wipe out the strongest Pokemon you face in a hit or two if you're using the right Pokemon. Buffs and debuffs are almost a waste of time.
The actual game of Pokemon requires almost no strategy at all if you level different Pokemon types well enough. Learn the elements and their strengths and weaknesses and you'll have all the knowledge you need to be successful in the game.
If you're going to try and be competitive in actual human opponent battles at anything besides a basic level, well...you need to turn in your "life" card and quit your job.
Yeah, Peanut's right, but one thing I do is that if a move is an upgraded version of another, like how flamethrower is to ember, I'd just replace ember with it. But yeah, if you know your types and can cover them all, you'll be good.
Hannah
03-25-2010, 02:39 PM
Get me a Vulpix! Nothing else matters.
Telepothead
03-26-2010, 01:06 PM
Pokemon is for ******s
Peanut
03-26-2010, 01:10 PM
I can see you have a bright future. Both on these forums, and in life.
You better get back to school before your parents catch you ditching class and jerking off in the basement.
Brodie
03-26-2010, 01:12 PM
Pokemon is for ******s
Are we gonna start a Banning pool? How long? Who's wants "Less than an hour"?
Peanut
03-26-2010, 01:15 PM
That was quick.
Barkworm
03-26-2010, 01:20 PM
I did it!!!
Peanut
03-26-2010, 01:23 PM
Got any matching IP's on that fellow? He sent PM's to some very specific people. We may have an alt account on our hands.
The Stryker
03-26-2010, 01:24 PM
Apparently something of mine is a asterisk cluster that likes to eat asterisk clusters.
WHAT DID I EVEN DO?!
Brodie
03-26-2010, 01:26 PM
This is like we're ****ing CSI-ing this.....We're Batman, or those Ghost Writer kids!
My asterisk cluster is a gay power ranger, and he propositioned sexual favors from me. As well as my mother. I think.
Barkworm
03-26-2010, 01:30 PM
Got any matching IP's on that fellow? He sent PM's to some very specific people. We may have an alt account on our hands.
Yeah, it was that Turo kid. God bless him.
Peanut
03-26-2010, 01:31 PM
Hahaha! Way to go Turo, you f*cking tool. You really are a child.
Brodie
03-26-2010, 01:32 PM
It couldnt be! Telepothead said he had relations with all of our mothers exactly 15 years ago, and Turo is only 14! IMPOSSIBLE! He has a concrete alibi.
Barkworm
03-26-2010, 01:34 PM
Damn it, Brodie is right! Is this a conspiracy against that poor kid?
Brodie
03-26-2010, 01:39 PM
It must be the Origami Killer!
The Stryker
03-26-2010, 01:53 PM
It must be the OriGAMi Killer!
Fixed that for you.
Damn it, Brodie is right! Is this a conspiracy against that poor kid?
Well, he DID try to warn us about some friend of his in a thread in questions/comments/bdhwjfbaj, I believe.
rav4ge
03-26-2010, 03:24 PM
Buffs and debuffs have so few actual in-game applications in all but the most dire situations. In most cases, you're going to wipe out the strongest Pokemon you face in a hit or two if you're using the right Pokemon. Buffs and debuffs are almost a waste of time.
Totally agree. Pokemon really comes down to rock,paper,scissors and later "rock, paper, scissors, slide hammer, toilet brush, harmonica, radial tire, pipe wrench, umbrella (http://tagn.wordpress.com/2010/03/25/choosing-that-initial-pokemon/)"
Still fun as hell though.
Ninjinister
03-26-2010, 03:49 PM
Totally agree. Pokemon really comes down to rock,paper,scissors and later "rock, paper, scissors, slide hammer, toilet brush, harmonica, radial tire, pipe wrench, umbrella (http://tagn.wordpress.com/2010/03/25/choosing-that-initial-pokemon/)"
I prefer the addendum "lizard, Spock".
Dr. Doom
03-26-2010, 05:45 PM
For a brief, foolish moment, I thought there were actually 2 pages of people trying to help me.
So who wants to trade me a Squirtle? I've got Venonat!
Brodie
03-26-2010, 06:28 PM
So who wants to trade me a Squirtle? I've got Venonat!
Quit.
Just quit.
rav4ge
03-26-2010, 10:58 PM
So who wants to trade me a Squirtle? I've got Venonat!Bwahahaha!
...No.
Dr. Doom
03-27-2010, 12:44 AM
**** you!!
I got some Nipponese Pokemans if you want to be the coolest kid in school. :)
Dr. Doom
03-27-2010, 08:52 AM
Do you even own a real DS?
A strategy for a 10 year olds game? I always just quickly beat the Pokémon games then traded it with one of my siblings when I was done.
As for your trading needs...
http://www.pokemongts.com/
http://www.serebiiforums.com/
Do you even own a real DS?
Actually, I do.
Dr. Doom
03-27-2010, 08:15 PM
Well okay then, gimme some of those slanty-eyed Pokémon!
Peanut
03-27-2010, 09:49 PM
A strategy for a 10 year olds game? I always just quickly beat the Pokémon games then traded it with one of my siblings when I was done.
You're an idiot.
Yeah, don't listen to her, Doom. She's wrong.
You're an idiot.
What is wrong with just getting a game over with? It is not like I am going to spend a mad amount of time trying to get all the Pokémon, and do every small task in it. Seems a tad time consuming if you ask me.
The game was built for children, not really that hard to beat, and not much thought to be put into it to beat it.
I am definitely no gamer. So I just might be quite oblivious and "idiotic" about how to get through a Pokémon game, or any kind of game for that matter.
The Stryker
03-27-2010, 10:39 PM
Yeah. Who really plays video games anymore! I spend 40 bucks to just get through the thing as quick as possible!
I'm a rocket scientist! WHOOSH!
Yeah. Who really plays video games anymore! I spend 40 bucks to just get through the thing as quick as possible!
I'm a rocket scientist! WHOOSH!
I didn't pay for my pokemon soulsilver though, so I woudn't really care as much as someone who did.
Peanut
03-27-2010, 10:46 PM
You're an idiot.
I am definitely no gamer. So I just might be quite oblivious and "idiotic" about how to get through a Pokémon game, or any kind of game for that matter.
Then go away and stop pretending that you know what you're talking about, cuz you don't. Like, at all.
The Stryker
03-27-2010, 10:47 PM
I didn't pay for my pokemon soulsilver though, so I woudn't really care as much as someone who did.
Good for you, Neither did I but I'mma still get all I can out of it.
Then go away and stop pretending that you know what you're talking about, cuz you don't. Like, at all.
OK. I didn't mean for it to come across that I knew anything though, just stating what I did with the game. I am sorry that I came across as a know it all.
Mecha Cow
03-28-2010, 06:37 AM
Then go away and stop pretending that you know what you're talking about, cuz you don't. Like, at all.
She never claimed to. Don't be so eager to jump on people. You've been doing it a lot lately and it's gone on long enough. You know you're my bud, but someone's gotta call you out on this. I don't care if this is the VG section and "that's how it goes."
Brodie
03-28-2010, 03:18 PM
See, now noone will post in here because its one of those "Dad slapped mom at the dinner table in front of everyone" moments.
Mecha Cow
03-28-2010, 03:26 PM
Daddy slaps mommy because he loves her. And she likes it rough too, doesn't she, yeah.
Barkworm
03-28-2010, 03:30 PM
This is getting more awkward by the minute.
The Stryker
03-28-2010, 03:30 PM
I miss Turo.
Barkworm
03-28-2010, 03:33 PM
I wonder if Doom still expects this thread to be helpful.
I think he actually saw this coming.
She never claimed to. Don't be so eager to jump on people. You've been doing it a lot lately and it's gone on long enough. You know you're my bud, but someone's gotta call you out on this. I don't care if this is the VG section and "that's how it goes."
FINE, but only cuz you're my dawg, dawg. <3
Man, it's a total sausage party in here. Kinda strange for a thread about Pokemon!
Deathknight
03-28-2010, 05:25 PM
I'll trade any starter for rare tms, black sludge, or shards (3 shards to 1 starter on shards.) Though yeah, beating Pokemon itself is mad easy as long as you keep leveling up and have diverse movepools on your pokemon. I find battling people is more fun but it takes work to be good at it. EVs are easy but IVs are a pain though I very much do have a life.
Hannah
03-28-2010, 05:37 PM
Man, it's a total sausage party in here. Kinda strange for a thread about Pokemon!
Are you actually surprised? There's about two girls on this forum who post in the VG section.
Dr. Doom
03-28-2010, 11:19 PM
I'll trade any starter for rare tms, black sludge, or shards (3 shards to 1 starter on shards.) Though yeah, beating Pokemon itself is mad easy as long as you keep leveling up and have diverse movepools on your pokemon. I find battling people is more fun but it takes work to be good at it. EVs are easy but IVs are a pain though I very much do have a life.
I don't understand any of what you've said.
The Stryker
03-29-2010, 01:40 AM
My favorite Pokemon is Charizard.
Deathknight
03-29-2010, 05:43 AM
In other words, to beat the game easily, just level up your Pokemon high and give them powerful moves of different types. Starters are the 12 Pokemon you were given a choice to start with in the different Pokemon games. Charmander, Squirtle, Bulbasaur in Red/Blue/Yellow, Totodile, Chikorita, Cyndaquil for Gold/Silver/Crystal, Torchic, Mudkip, Treeko, for Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald, and Chimchar, Piplup, and Turtwig for Diamond/Pearl/Platinum. TMs are items that teach your Pokemon moves, you should find them throughout the game. Shards are items you find in the regular game or in the Underground which you need an item to access. Black Sludge is a rare item that when held any Pokemon that is a poison type regains a little health each turn.
The Stryker
03-29-2010, 02:28 PM
Excuse me. You didn't get a choice of starters in Pokemon Yellow. DUH.
Deathknight
03-29-2010, 03:36 PM
Haha, good point... I forgot. So it's just R/B for the original 3.
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