Should venus be in the new 2012 cartoon? [Archive]

Redeemer

03-31-2010, 10:31 PM

Should venus be in the new 2012 cartoon? I dont remember much from the next mutation, but I know that one creator like venus, the other did not even acknowledge her existence. What do u guys think?

Roseangelo

03-31-2010, 10:33 PM

No.

.......

TheCanadiandrome

03-31-2010, 10:36 PM

Never....Ever

Kali

03-31-2010, 10:50 PM

Even though I actually enjoyed The Next Mutation and have a fondness for Venus, and would love to see her redesigned, I'm gonna say no. Well, maybe as a one-shot character, I'd love to see her redesigned as a villain. But in general... no.

CyberCubed

03-31-2010, 10:56 PM

Nick probably has no idea the Next Mutation exists. Disney/Saban still hold the rights to it.

gobo

03-31-2010, 11:03 PM

Should venus be in the new 2012 cartoon?
Who? :tconfuse:

sdp

03-31-2010, 11:14 PM

Typical responses :roll:

Venus is awesome and ironically the best character in The Next Mutation. WOuld I like her as being part of the team? Not really. Would I like her showing up on the show and maybe being a re-curring character? I'd love that! And with Laird gone I hope she finally gets to do at least cameos.

Counting her undeserved reputation I don't think its too likely though,

Nick probably has no idea the Next Mutation exists. Disney/Saban still hold the rights to it.

I'm sure they do, and besides its the people who will be writing the show who would make the decision and I'm sure if they know anything about the turtles history they know about Venus.

Powder

03-31-2010, 11:26 PM

I won't even vote. This is rediculous.

gobo

03-31-2010, 11:40 PM

I still don't get it. Why would we have a Sailor Scout involved? This is mind-boggling!

Krutch

03-31-2010, 11:56 PM

I think a female turtle character is possible, but they'd pretty much need to start with that and scrap what they had. A villain might be a good idea. Maybe Karai or Shredder would be inspired to have their own mutant turtle ninja and experiment on one and train it... wait, that kind of sounds stupid now that I'd typed it.

..but I still think Venus, if redone, could be a decent addition as a recurring character. Just not as a series regular.

gobo

04-01-2010, 02:28 AM

I wonder if Shredder'll be a turtle this time...

Scandia

04-01-2010, 05:58 AM

Absolutely not!

GK Punk

04-01-2010, 06:04 AM

I still don't get it. Why would we have a Sailor Scout involved? This is mind-boggling!

Well she is the coolest Sailor Soldier after all...

Mighty Bebop

04-01-2010, 08:54 AM

Venus is best left in the past.

I wouldn't want to see her in the new series, but I wouldn't be opposed to maybe a very small in-joke that acknowledged her existence. I always get a kick out of nods to the Turtles' history (for better or worse) like that.

Still, count me firmly in the "no Venus" camp.

ToTheNines

04-01-2010, 09:12 AM

I voted "Helk No", meaning I definitely don't want her to be a fulltime memeber of the cast, but I would like to see her as a one-shot character or something like that.

TheCanadiandrome

04-01-2010, 03:04 PM

I still don't get it. Why would we have a Sailor Scout involved? This is mind-boggling!

Well she is the coolest Sailor Soldier after all...

bwahaha!!! two best answers yet :tlol:

oldmanwinters

04-01-2010, 04:30 PM

I'd say the #1 concern I have in light of the Viacom buyout is the thought that Venus might become a PERMANENT addition to the TMNT franchise.

Redeemer

04-01-2010, 07:10 PM

I voted no as well, but If they put Venus in I would have a hard time watching it.

Samhain

04-01-2010, 07:16 PM

HELL to the NO!

Triglyph

04-01-2010, 07:18 PM

I was going to type "who?", but someone beat me to it...

Remember when Clark Kent started to work for a tv news station instead of the daily planet?

Sometimes things sound like a good idea at the time..."lets spice up the old formula with a modern spin"...but then it just doesn't work out and things get back to normal soon enough.

There are four, male ninja turtles.

gobo

04-01-2010, 07:52 PM

Honestly, I wouldn't mind if she was involved as a recurring guest character. As someone else stated, she was the best character in TNM. In other words, "least annoying". Her competition was four adult, male ninja turtles who act like hyperactive 6 year olds and a bunch of villains more incompetent than OT Krang, Shredder, Bebop and Rocksteady combined. Could I tolerate her becoming a regular fixture to the main cast of characters? I'd sincerely rather not, but I'd still give it a chance.

TMNachoT

04-01-2010, 10:27 PM

Never! Nunca! Jamais!

I didn´t like the fact that she shares the same origin as the turtles, it feels so wrong.

Guitar_Raph

04-01-2010, 10:35 PM

It would be nice to have Venus back after 15 years. Maybe Leo can make a move on her. Sexy!

Kendamu

04-02-2010, 01:37 AM

I'd rather not. She was put there because Saban wanted a female Turtle, not because Kevin and Pete were like, "This is something we've always wanted!"

jaymq

04-02-2010, 01:46 AM

I don't hate Venus, but I think it's better just leaving her canon only to TNM. She is alright only there.

Additionally, Nick needs to come up with their own ideas.

ryukenden

04-02-2010, 07:00 AM

The established Turtles in TNM were all completely immature and paled in comparison to all the previous incarnations including the Coming Out of Their Shells Turtles. Venus just joined the wrong group. She probably would have fit in better if the established Turtles were more true to Mirage like Movie1 and the NT. All in all, stick with the main 4.

kenshin

04-03-2010, 03:20 AM

sometimes mikey acting like girl thats enough.:D

Redeemer

04-03-2010, 08:43 AM

sometimes mikey acting like girl thats enough.:D

That is very true, when he jumps so does his voice lol

Prowler

04-03-2010, 06:53 PM

To be honest:

A-B-S-O-L-U-T-E-L-Y-N-O-T

Redeemer

04-04-2010, 08:58 AM

Truthfully I didn't think Venus would get this many supportors. My problem with bringing Venus back is that she would put a bump in the plot. I watch NM ,but I can't remember much about it. But from what I hear she was suppose to be the most powerful. This was was kinda of stupid. I can see her as an equal, but not Supiers, bc the Turtles are the main characters.

Luzmagica

04-04-2010, 11:00 AM

Well,... I didnt vote because I had not seen Next Mutation...only heard about it...
But Im sure that I prefer a Venus turtle than the second option of poll:" no, but they should add a new turtle"...!!! Enough with my 4 classic turtles!!!

Candy Kappa

04-04-2010, 07:52 PM

she ruins the whole deal with the turtles being outcasts

that said, a 'alt. world' episode could feature a female turtle

ToTheNines

04-04-2010, 08:04 PM

she ruins the whole deal with the turtles being outcasts

True, but it's not like Next Mutation ever got that deep. And if this show is OT-ish, it won't either.

gobo

04-05-2010, 03:06 AM

I'm expecting it to be way deep. Like, Penguins Of Madagascar deep. Still, how did Venus make them not outcasts anymore? It seems to me they were still freaks of nature.

ToTheNines

04-05-2010, 09:43 AM

Well, I guess that wasn't the best word to use but I thought he was refering to the whole "last of their kind" thing. Ever read "Sons of the Silent Age"?

But with Venus around, they can throw the meat and keep their race alive. So their existance is less poignant.

CyberCubed

04-05-2010, 01:11 PM

For example, each Turtle would separately impregnate Venus and create a new race of mutant Turtle things.

This is why Next Mutation established the Turtles weren't blood brothers and Venus wasn't their sister, that way the Turtles could want to get with her without it being incest.

gobo

04-05-2010, 01:34 PM

That... brings up a deep question. Like 'Back To The Barnyard' deep... times 50. Due to the nature of her mutation, would Venus carry her hatchlings to term or would she still lay her eggs like any other reptile? I'm guessing option A. After all, she does has bubees. What good are mammary glands to a reptile? Know what I'm sayin'?

ToTheNines

04-05-2010, 01:39 PM

What good are boobs that are blocked by plastron?

gobo

04-05-2010, 01:55 PM

So, you get my point. Nick isn't expecting anyone to think that hard about it. Plus, they probably have no reason to want to please the old skool fans. I expect the show to be mildly amusing at best. If it's better than that, then good on them, but don't expect me to be setting myself up for a gargantuan letdown so early ahead of the game.

dontplaydead27

04-07-2010, 04:14 AM

Maybe.

:fart noise:

No.

Blade Raider

04-07-2010, 12:33 PM

As a main character, nooooooooo.
As a Recurring character like Slash or Leatherhead, yes. I'd like that a lot.

She isn't that bad of an idea and I think she's worth a 2nd try. Just keep her outta the main cast.

Damien Kash

04-07-2010, 01:03 PM

I think Venus might be better as a vilain.(or atleast as an enemy of some sort)
But it's all in the way her story would be written.
I don't really like that she shares the origin with the 4 turtles.
Not sure how Venus would work in any version of TMNT,she didn't really work in Next Mutation either....

Cipher

04-08-2010, 03:32 AM

Honestly, I couldn't care less.

Yes, Venus killed "Sons of the Silent Age." But in any of the campier universes, I don't really care about her one way or the other.

She needs to never have a braided bandana or Turtle breasts again though. Also, a real weapon. Also, character traits beyond, "Look, we have a girl Turtle gimmick now!" Basically a Venus-in-name-only type of character.

Blade Raider

04-08-2010, 07:45 AM

I don't really like that she shares the origin with the 4 turtles.
I don't like that Mondo Gecko shares their origins either...:ohwell:

In fact, Venus stole the idea from Mondo!:lol:

Damien Kash

04-08-2010, 10:24 AM

I don't like that Mondo Gecko shares their origins either...:ohwell:

In fact, Venus stole the idea from Mondo!:lol:

Heh,I don't mind Mondo's origin as much.Atleast he ain't a turtle.

....And the turtles themselves share origins with Daredevil from Marvel.

It is possible to add a turtle to the mix,just look at Tigerfogs Renoir.
But it's still tricky to do.

Koi

04-08-2010, 06:59 PM

Simple answer = No

Redeemer

04-18-2010, 10:40 AM

BentonGrey

04-18-2010, 12:56 PM

Nope, definitely not. If you want a female animal character, bring in Ninjara. She's a much more interesting one.

jaymq

04-18-2010, 02:29 PM

Nope, definitely not. If you want a female animal character, bring in Ninjara. She's a much more interesting one.

Bring them both in and make them lesbians so Raph can cry.

:D

Newton Gimmick

04-18-2010, 05:19 PM

What good are boobs that are blocked by plastron?

They open up, like in the Guyver.

discordiatookie

04-18-2010, 05:31 PM

I'd rather hope that Venus does not appear in the new 'toon...

Redeemer

04-18-2010, 09:29 PM

But as many people said before, maybe bring her back as a villian along with maybe even slash. hmm.... Ideas of an evil turtle duo?

gobo

04-18-2010, 09:33 PM

Venus & Slash, the next Bonnie & Clyde... :P

Cipher

04-18-2010, 11:06 PM

Oh yeah there is a great idea have a transvestite turtle on a tv show!LOLI didn't say transvestite. I just said she needs to lose the Turtle breasts.

Because ... really? Turtle breasts? She storing all that milk for her Turtle young?

OMG BAD IMAGES.

Candy Kappa

04-19-2010, 02:32 AM

having a thread discussing mutant turtle anatomy would spawn some interesting ideas...

and creepy ones

Koi

04-19-2010, 08:03 AM

having a thread discussing mutant turtle anatomy would spawn some interesting ideas...

and creepy ones

Make one! that idea might help me with drawing them more accurate.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

04-19-2010, 08:10 AM

If so, she shall use martial arts only, not magic.

Vivi

04-19-2010, 08:19 AM

Redeemer

04-19-2010, 01:54 PM

I didn't say transvestite. I just said she needs to lose the Turtle breasts.

Because ... really? Turtle breasts? She storing all that milk for her Turtle young?

OMG BAD IMAGES.

Im sorry, but that would jump out at me bc she would look like a small man turtle. lol

Koi

04-19-2010, 05:12 PM

the dynamic would be ruined with a turtle girl in the team, but maybe as a villain. Although as already mentioned, the Ninjara idea would be way better.

She wouldn't be that bad to the team, she could make them sandwiches XD.

ToTheNines

04-19-2010, 09:12 PM

I see you have a facebook.

Gyt Kaliba

04-19-2010, 09:25 PM

I didn't say transvestite. I just said she needs to lose the Turtle breasts.

Because ... really? Turtle breasts? She storing all that milk for her Turtle young?

OMG BAD IMAGES.

GAH! Now they're in my head too. Darn you!

...Sadly, there be pictures out there I bet. Rule...34? Whatever, of the internet rules. URgh.:teek:

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

04-20-2010, 08:53 AM

the dynamic would be ruined with a turtle girl in the team, but maybe as a villain. Although as already mentioned, the Ninjara idea would be way better.

All this talk of turtle milk and anatomy threads is gonna bring a stampede of fangirls. Bring it on.

Maybe create a spn-off franchise another gang of four mutated female turtles, who live in Tokyo, Japan or something. :)

Coola Yagami

04-20-2010, 08:09 PM

Imagine Donatello goin crazy and makin turtle babies with Venus so later..... THEY CAN TAKE OVER THE WORLD WITH AN UNSTOPPABLE ARMY OF MUTANT TURTLES!!!!

Remember, Turtles hatch lots of eggs at a time.... Grow my army of evil turtles.... grow!!!

Gyt Kaliba

04-20-2010, 09:40 PM

Candy Kappa

04-21-2010, 02:49 AM

I always thought the turtles was sterile, being in DNA altering goo, being mutants.

but I guess Mikey showed other wise, getting on with the alien princess.

but a anatomy thread would be cool. I have somethings on my mind on what's canon or not when it comes to the turtles anatomy. revolving around the non-sexual( hah killjoy!) stuff like the turtles "third toe" and claws/nails. And how they are connected to their shells, are they just like normal turtles or have the mutation tweaked on that.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

04-21-2010, 07:37 AM