The Avengers

[Raph's Girl]

Joss Whedon is directing the Avengers movie?! :o

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100414/film_nm/us_whedon

[odupianist]

I won't complain about that at all!

[Cure]

Edward Norton isn't coming back as Bruce Banner. (http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/103715-no-edward-norton-for-the-avengers)

Super big drop in interest now. F*cking boo.

[Brodie]

That article is ****ing insane, Kevin Feige is a huge prick.

Ed Norton wanted to give Banner depth, and was excited about the possibility for the idea of The Avengers since he filmed Incredible Hulk. Norton understood Banner, and the comics, and how to make a superhero film work, and to see him with Downey would have been awesome.

Changing the actor for a character 3 times in a decade worked out super-well by the end of the 90's Batman franchise, right?

Thinking about it, I wouldn't be so pissed if Feige wasn't so incredibly unprofessional about it.

[Andrew NDB]

Pretty much the only thing of interest to me was, "How cool it's going to be to see Ed Norton bouncing off of Robert Downey Jr., Sam Jackson, and company." And the promise of seeing that was practically packaged when The Incredible Hulk came out.

Now... it's not so? F this movie. Not seeing it.

[Jester]

I was wondering what you guys would think. God, I hope they can mend fences. I love Norton and he was a great Banner.

[Master Splinter]

I was wondering what you guys would think. God, I hope they can mend fences. I love Norton and he was a great Banner.

Not to disregard the enjoyment these big name celebs bring to these movies but this is why you shouldn't type cast a big name in a re-occurring hero/bad guy role...

Believe me I want to see Norton reprise the role but F'k it if Hollywood won't produce what the audience who has invested time and money into this wants...

-ms

[BitchinPicturesChris]

Looks like Edward Norton is out for the role of the Hulk. It was reported on IGN. This sucks. It would have been a great ensemble cast with Robert Downey Jr, Sam Jackson, and Ed Norton.

I love how the continuity of the Marvel Universe movies slowly decline.

[The Stryker]

I love how the continuity of the Marvel Universe movies slowly decline.

What are you getting at.

[ooglafina]

Well, I'll see anything that Whedon puts his hand too.

[The Stryker]

Whedon still being on board is the big thing keeping my hopes up.

I don't get attached to actors much in movies. The only recasted actor that I missed was strangely enough Terrence Howard in Iron Man. I felt the movie didn't work half as well without him.

[BitchinPicturesChris]

What are you getting at.
They can't keep casting consistency.

[Oniri]

When I heard they changed the Hulk again, I was pretty crush. Why would you ruin such an awesome line up? WHY?

Marvel in general has been drop kicking fans in the face a lot lately.:tgrumble:

How much are you willing to bet they'll find a way to mess up with Robert Downey Jr?

[The Stryker]

They can't keep casting consistency.

2 guys. Wow.

What a history.

[Brodie]

I'm bothered by Norton being let loose, but I'm wondering what the **** a few of you are talking about.

What casting consistency aside from the Hulk have they screwed up? The Punisher? That isn't really the same. That was the film company giving Thomas Jane the run around, not Marvel's production company.

And just because of this one Avengers instance, why would that lead to them screwing something up with Downey?

Look, it sucks, but it doesn't mean they're causing train wrecks left and right, for ****'s sake.

[Raph's Girl]

Aww looky! All the Avengers on stage (at comic con). How cute.

http://i.newsarama.com/images/AVENGERS-ASSEMBLED-Movie-Cast.jpg

From left to right we have:
Robert Downey Jr: Iron man
Clark Gregg: SHIELD Agent Phil Coulson
Scarlett Johansson: Black Widow
Chris Hemsworth: Thor (boy he's tall)
Chris Evans: Capt America
Samuel L. Jackson: Nick Fury
Jeremy Renner: Hawkeye
Mark Ruffalo: Hulk
Director Joss Whedon
Producer and Marvel Studios’ President Kevin Feige

Jeremy Renner and Mark Ruffalo were officially announced as Hawkeye and Hulk today.

[ooglafina]

That's super cool!

[TheCanadiandrome]

Mark Ruffalo as Hulk? seems a worse choice than Eric Bana was

[The Stryker]

Mark Ruffalo as Hulk? seems a worse choice than Eric Bana was

I know I'm crazy for asking you but....Why exactly?

Ruffalo has some charisma. They definitely could've done worse. Like Joaquin Phoenix.

[TheCanadiandrome]

I know I'm crazy for asking you but....Why exactly?

Ruffalo has some charisma. They definitely could've done worse. Like Joaquin Phoenix.
true, but Ruffalo just doesn't seem like he fits the character

[PAAATE]

Well, I would've liked to see Norton for continuity's sake, but other than that; I don't really care about the cast. My one wish is that Whedon gets as much freedom as possible to do what he wants... But, yeeaaah... :roll:

[TheCanadiandrome]

well i didn't think that Heath Ledger was going to make a good Joker til i saw him, and i changed my mind, cause he was fantastic. so maybe Ruffalo will change my mind

[Raph's Girl]

There's now a way cool teaser trailer for Avengers. No footage but the voice over by Samuel L. Jackson is more than enough to get things rollin! :D

http://www.freewebs.com/superheromovies/theavengersnews.htm#615088932

[TheCanadiandrome]

There's now a way cool teaser trailer for Avengers. No footage but the voice over by Samuel L. Jackson is more than enough to get things rollin! :D

http://www.freewebs.com/superheromovies/theavengersnews.htm#615088932

for those of us without FaceBook, any better way to view this?

[Slap-Happy]

for those of us without FaceBook, any better way to view this?
http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/08/04/comic-con-teaser-trailer-the-avengers/

need QuickTime though.

[TheCanadiandrome]

got better link here:

http://www.reelzchannel.com/movie-news/7374/the-avengers-teaser-trailer-from-the-san-diego-comic-con

[discordiatookie]

Avengers 1952? Amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fCTokuOU_E

His Star Wars premake is rather amazing too.

[Grey]

I like him as Banner. He brings a bit of the Bixby flavor to him, and I think he'll play a nice reluctant, unsure type of dude.

[Raph's Girl]

Cobie Smulders has been confirmed as Maria Hill in Avengers

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/cobie-smulders.jpg

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/125790-cobie-smulders-confirmed-for-the-avengers

[Raph's Girl]

The Avengers Superbowl trailer!

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[Slap-Happy]

Nothing compared to the extended spot!

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[TheCanadiandrome]

very good spots!

[gobo]

Glad to finally know for sure who the villain's gonna be. :)

[KROW]

CanNOT wait for this one. Cap's duds, though, look... plain.

[Jester]

This movie further cements the thought that Robert Downey Jr. is the only person who could play Tony Stark.

Loki: I've got an Army!
Tony: We've got a Hulk...

[Slap-Happy]

This movie further cements the thought that Robert Downey Jr. is the only person who could play Tony Stark.

Loki: I've got an Army!
Tony: We've got a Hulk...
Agreed.

It's so strange how a ton of people doubted him until we started seeing him as Tony.

[Candy Kappa]

Cap's suit looks very smooth and less padded then the usual live-action superhero costumes

[ToTheNines]

I'm not really a Marvel guy, but this has got me pretty pumped. Looks amazing.

[TheCanadiandrome]

This movie further cements the thought that Robert Downey Jr. is the only person who could play Tony Stark.

Loki: I've got an Army!
Tony: We've got a Hulk...

Agreed! Love it :tcool:

[UsagiYojimbo]

CanNOT wait for this one. Cap's duds, though, look... plain.

Wait until you see the Iron Man fight with Thor... ;)

[Raph's Girl]

New trailer added today. The thing at the end reminds me of Transformers 3...

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http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/marvel/avengers/

[Cowabunga Carl]

I agree that the end makes me think of Transformers 3.

As excited as I am for this movie I'm getting a little tired of not knowing who the villains are. This preview doesn't do much to answer that question which bugs me. I mean I know Loki is the main villain but I'd like to know who he has helping him.

[Candy Kappa]

On the Lego wiki page, Loki's army is called the General and the general's Foot Soldiers.

Can't say I recognize the designs on the Lego figures.

http://lego.wikia.com/wiki/The_General%27s_Foot_Soldier
http://lego.wikia.com/wiki/General
http://lego.wikia.com/wiki/6865_Captain_America%27s_Avenging_Cycle

If these figures are real :P

[Donnie]

Dude, this trailer is seriously EPIC. I can't wait for this film!!! Been pumped since Thor, which was by far imo the best of the solo movies...

[Cowabunga Carl]

I trust the team behind the movie to deliver something amazing. I'm just not one who likes big surprisesI like a general idea of what I'm getting going in.

[TheCanadiandrome]

man i'm getting excited!

[Warhorse]

The Japanese trailer has some new shots.

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[sdp]

Just got back from watching the midnight showing of the Avengers and overall I was a bit disappointed. I mean I wasn't really hyped for the movie at all, I'm not sure why. While I've never been a huge Marvel fan, I still quite enjoy their universe and characters, I also liked all the Marvel movies so far, none of them have ever topped Iron Man but I even enjoyed the sequel quite a bit which people consider just an "commercial for the Avengers".

The movie was good a good popcorn flick but I definitely expected more counting how many movies that led up to it and all the marketing/hype that's surrounded the movie for the last 4 years. Geeks will enjoy it much more, outside of the action I don't see how the average joe would enjoy the movie without knowing the background of the characters or having watched the previous movies.

I'm of course pissed off about a certain death in the movie, and the secret ending is alright. Hulk got a lot of love in this movie, I'd love it if this created interest and a new movie. There's definitely plotholes in the movie and more will be created as each franchise continues stand alone but it's not much of a problem. While it was cool seeing all the heroes together there was still something missing, the fact that a few of them were a bit useless didn't help but oh well.

Overall I think I enjoyed John Carter a lot more, I'm not too hyped about Spider-Man or Batman either so who knows how I'll rank the other two superhero movies.

[ZariusTwo]

I watched it last night and I'm very much in agreement with sdp. Avengers is going to be extremly overrated by the nerds, but people who like to think for more than two minutes will be able to pick it apart layer by layer. There's only been a few Marvel movies that I found intellectually stimulating (Incredible Hulk, Thor, Daredevil Director's Cut, X-Men I, II, and First Class) and this? Meh, it's not up there with 'em.

This is a Whedon script as well as a Whedon-helmed film, and a lot of tropes associated with his work can be found in abundence here. This, for the most part, does help the flick rise above it's very pedestrian plot and sloppier pacing.

Overall, there were no real stakes. Over the course of the film, there is only ONE major fatality. The Ch'tari are utterly USELESS, existing only to have their ass kicked. There have been monsters in Power Rangers who have proven more competant.

Loki didnt really need to be in this movie, you could have had the aliens send a shape-changing harbinger instead of him (shape-changing is actually one of their abilities in the Ultimate comics, and even demonstrated it in the animated Ultimate Avengers movies), Loki exists primiarly as an excuse to bring in Thor. I should note that the writing is incredibly lazy when it comes to tying up loose ends from the Thor film, one line of dialouge does away with the heartwrenching difficulty Thor faced at the end of his own movie in regards to returning to Earth. I wouldnt have minded if we got something, a scene in Asguard, to explain how this is resolved, but then I thought "they've got to save money".

Robert Downey Jr gets most of the screen time in this, and certaingly gets some the best moments and lines. Evans is alright and does get a few good lines and spots in, but we don't get to see more of a reaction to his being a man out of time, which was a very big part of the ending in his first film. It doesnt even look like a lot of time has passed since then, so I felt they missed an oppertunity for Cap to be involved in a bit of a culture clash with, say, Stark.

Thor doesnt get to do an awful lot except fight. There's a great spot with him contemplating picking up his hammer in a field and hesitating, but outside of that nice spot, he's only there to fight. A shame given his movie really fleshed him out as more than a generic Asguardian thug.

Ruffalo is just sublime as Banner, and for many the Hulk steals the film not just in terms of execution, but all the good comedy spots come from him too. Banner's "secret" to controlling his temper will make you punch the air, it's just such a perfect summerization of his character.

The best portion of this movie in my estimation wouldnt be the big brawl in the city, but the entirety of the middle act inside the Helicarrier. Very urgent and clustrophobic storytelling with a lot of good character interaction and acting as tensions really build between everyone, culminating in a really frantic series of chain reactions

Overall, it was dumb, harmless fun

***

DKR will probably top this.

[Raphael86]

Guys, as a Hulk fanatic, I have to know something: does Hulk speak at all in this?

I'm stoked to hear how much screen time he gets in this. Can't wait!

[ZariusTwo]

Guys, as a Hulk fanatic, I have to know something: does Hulk speak at all in this?

He's got some lines, particulary once he meets Loki.

[Raphael86]

He's got some lines, particulary once he meets Loki.

Yes! Thank you. :)

One more thing I have to know from those who have seen it: Who is the major fatality? Is it Hawkeye?

[zkarlette]

I cannot wait to see this movie:D specially since the reviews aren't that bad..
the trailer for the Amaizing spiderman has me a little disappointed tho'..

[sdp]

Yes, I was bummed Hulk barely spoke, but he does get two or three lines and they are good. As for the major casualty do you really want to know? Well I guess i'll tell you but I'd just wait, it really was unexpected Agent Caulson and after it did I thought "God damnit Joss Whedon, why do you always do this"

[Raphael86]

Yes, I was bummed Hulk barely spoke, but he does get two or three lines and they are good. As for the major casualty do you really want to know? Well I guess i'll tell you but I'd just wait, it really was unexpected Agent Caulson and after it did I thought "God damnit Joss Whedon, why do you always do this"

Oh. I kind of expected that. Thank you. :)

[Jester]

Oh. I kind of expected that. Thank you. :)
Still sucks.
Wait, what does this mean for Ultimate Spider-man? Ahhh...who cares.... :P

[zkarlette]

It's Amaizing jester ....supposed to be Amaizing..:P

[Jester]

It's Amaizing jester ....supposed to be Amaizing..:P
I mean the series, Z. :P

[TheCanadiandrome]

I don't care what others think, I still can't wait to see it

[Ninjinister]

Yes, I was bummed Hulk barely spoke, but he does get two or three lines and they are good. As for the major casualty do you really want to know? Well I guess i'll tell you but I'd just wait, it really was unexpected Agent Caulson and after it did I thought "God damnit Joss Whedon, why do you always do this"

Wait, why the f**k would they kill an ensemble darkhorse that is gaining prominence in so many media and was just freaking introduced in the standard comics?

[ZariusTwo]

It was probably done so people would begin to worry about everyone, seeing as there are really no other big stakes in this flick. You have to make the threat look somewhat competant before you kick their ass

[KROW]

Evans is alright and does get a few good lines and spots in, but we don't get to see more of a reaction to his being a man out of time, which was a very big part of the ending in his first film.

Maybe they'll tackle that in the Cap sequel, albeit a little late.

Overall, it was dumb, harmless fun

Well, as long as I'm entertained, it'll be worth it.

[Raphael86]

Wait, why the f**k would they kill an ensemble darkhorse that is gaining prominence in so many media and was just freaking introduced in the standard comics?

I doubt they've killed Coulsen off for good. There's a rumor he'll be brought back as the Vision.

[ZariusTwo]

Maybe they'll tackle that in the Cap sequel, albeit a little late.

The ending does sort of send Steve off on his way, so you will probably see his journey in the sequel

Well, as long as I'm entertained, it'll be worth it.

You will definatly have a good time with it, it's just I'd be wary of calling it the "best superhero movie ever" like some overenthusiastic fans are hailing it as, it's no Superman The Movie.

[Ninjinister]

It was probably done so people would begin to worry about everyone, seeing as there are really no other big stakes in this flick. You have to make the threat look somewhat competant before you kick their ass

To do it for that reason alone is just lazy writing.

I doubt they've killed Coulsen off for good. There's a rumor he'll be brought back as the Vision.

Hm... I'm not a big fan of the latter character, but I certainly could become one if that happens.

[JakeSully]

I can't wait until it hits May 4th and i'll be there opening night.

From then on i'll do a marathon of Avengers movies to link the story starting with Captain America then Iron Man then Incredible Hulk then Iron Man 2 and finally Thor then go see the movie.

I always do marathons before seeing a new installment in a series to link the story.

[TheCanadiandrome]

I can't wait until it hits May 4th and i'll be there opening night.


my friend and i might go opening night also

[ZariusTwo]

To do it for that reason alone is just lazy writing.

That's not exactly a new thing for Marvel Movies.:P

[Brodie]

Avengers was a lot of fun.



I wish Batman movies were fun again.

[Lethal Lullaby]

This may seem like a silly reason to want to see the film, but I want to see it because IronMan, Thor, and captain America are really good looking.

And I'm excited for the explosions and Superhero teamup.

[KROW]

Saw it earlier tonight and it was very fun and entertaining. Stay during the credits, those of you who haven't seen it yet.

Can't wait for the sequel.

Thanos!

[Wes]

More to come (I'm about halfway through writing a review for SC), but I'm kinda with ZT here. It wasn't a bad film -- it was enjoyable and had lots of cool little moments -- but it was otherwise a flawed and fairly uninspired one (you've seen the ending battle dozens of times, and yes it was very reminiscent of Transformers 3). I mean, I can see how it would be ZOMGAWESOME if you're really, really into the Avengers (or Ultimates comics, etc.). If you're just going to see a movie, however -- and not to participate in a long-awaited event -- you might be a little disappointed.

I'm actually a bit surprised at how fans are praising it as the best superhero movie ever, since Iron Man (the first one) and Captain America were better films in nearly every respect. Some other movies are better, too, but I couldn't help being reminded of those since their titular characters were in this flick as well.

[GK Punk]

I went to the midnight showing last night at the Great Mall in San Jose and we were quite the spectacle... I was dressed as Logan, my friends were dressed as Spider-Man, Ironman, Captain America, Thor, Black Widow and Ms Marvel. We were quite the hit especially with kids. I've never done anything like that before so it was quite a bit of fun.

As for the movie, I really enjoyed it. Better than I thought I would even. It was incredibly fun. I can't wait to see it a second time to see if I enjoy it as much.

[LeoNerdo]

I'm actually a bit surprised at how fans are praising it as the best superhero movie ever, since Iron Man (the first one) and Captain America were better films in nearly every respect. Some other movies are better, too, but I couldn't help being reminded of those since their titular characters were in this flick as well.

I agree. I think those two, Iron Man & Captain America were way better story-wise. Those two and Thor to some degree set Avengers up so well though that all I really wanted from Avengers was a good fight. It totally delivers the goods there.

[Memphis]

Did anybody stay after the second round of credits and see the second Easter egg scene?

All the avengers eating in that torn up restaurant Tony was talking about was hilarious. Not one single line there, which I think, made it even more hilarious.

[Wes]

Yeah, I thought that was great. :)

Though I liked it more because Cap wasn't eating at all. Screw food, dude was tired.

Anyway, I finally posted my review on Scary-Crayon!

http://www.scary-crayon.com/spectare/theavengers/

I admittedly feel a little guilty for singling ScarJo out like that.

[TheCanadiandrome]

[COLOR="Yellow"]Stay during the credits, those of you who haven't seen it yet.

plan on it! :)

[zkarlette]

The only reason I haven't seen it yet is because it's the first week and I want to avoid the crazy mobs.. But I hope to see it pretty soon maybe I'll go mid week or something.. But it sounds pretty awesome, I'm glad to hear such good reviews.

[Slap-Happy]

Though I liked it more because Cap wasn't eating at all. Screw food, dude was tired.


I read that he had a beard while filming that scene, so he had to put on prosthetics and a wig. I think that might be why he isn't moving very much.

[That Matt Guy]

I really loved this movie. I'll probably go see it a few more times.

[Raphael86]

Did anybody stay after the second round of credits and see the second Easter egg scene?

All the avengers eating in that torn up restaurant Tony was talking about was hilarious. Not one single line there, which I think, made it even more hilarious.

I did!

I laughed my ass off when Ruffalo started giggling with his mouth full. I guess the absurdity of it all got to him.

I loved everything about it and cannot wait to see it again. I especially loved Ruffalo as Banner/Hulk. He's signed on for six more movies and that makes me SO happy as a Hulk fan. Hulk will finally be consistent.

[ToTheNines]

I went last night and thought it was kickass. RDJ was on point as usual, but the surprise for me was Ruffalo as Bruce. He was perfect.

Loved Hawkeye also. Is he getting his own flick now?

In the end, being a DC fan, this movie just burns my ass since I know DC will never get their sh*t together and make a Justice League film.

[Raphael86]

^I really wish we could get a quality JL movie too. I'm terrified it would turn out like GL though. Plus DC is still in that legal battle over Superman, so don't expect him to be in it. Unless a miracle happens, we may not see Superman on the big screen for a long time, so I hope Man of Steel is good, because it may very well be the last.

[Candy Kappa]

Unless Man of Steel is the first of the introduction films, we wont see a JL movie for a long time.

I'm surprised we did get a Avengers movie.

[Roland]

It was an awesome movie. I loved the humour in it. Iron man joking with Thor's acsent and Hulk and Loki.

[Cowabunga Carl]

I loved it. It was so wonderful to see everything they did in the other movies accumulate to this.

I will say when it was announced that Nortan wouldn't be a part of this I was incredibly mad. Out of the two Hulk movies we had, he was the best Bruce/Hulk we had seen I thought. He seemed to get the character. Then I saw this movie. Ruffalo has become my favorite Banner hands down. He really seemed to get it and just made the character that much more.

I really loved it when Banner said, "That's my secret, I'm always angry." It just really made you realize that this is a man in constant termoil. He doesn't shut it off, he can't. The beauty of the character and the acting too is that you realize this but it doesn't click tell he says it himself.

I'm excited for more movies in the long line of Marvel films. It should be interesting to see where they take the solo films between this and the next Avengers movie.

[LeoNerdo]

I will say when it was announced that Nortan wouldn't be a part of this I was incredibly mad. Out of the two Hulk movies we had, he was the best Bruce/Hulk we had seen I thought. He seemed to get the character. Then I saw this movie. Ruffalo has become my favorite Banner hands down. He really seemed to get it and just made the character that much more.


I completely agree. I still love the Norton Hulk film to death, but Ruffalo fit the bill perfectly. I really hope we get to see a lot more of him and the Hulk in future movies.

[Cowabunga Carl]

Yes, I agree. Seeing more of Ruffalo as the Hulk would be great. It just comes down to Marvel being willing to make more Hulk movies. I'd love for them to continue on from Norton's movie with the Leader. I mean they did tease that, so it would be nice to see it happen.

I hope at least Ruffalo has a cameo in IM3.

[Raphael86]

I completely agree. I still love the Norton Hulk film to death, but Ruffalo fit the bill perfectly. I really hope we get to see a lot more of him and the Hulk in future movies.

He just signed a six movie contract, so Ruffalo will definitely be back. As to whether he gets his own movie again, Idk. That mostly depends on whether Marvel can get the distribution rights from Universal or at least wait until they expire so they can distribute it themselves. I personally don't see a stand alone Hulk movie for a while, again, until those rights expire. And I think that's one reason they're doing the new show on ABC. It's completely in-house and there's definitely going to be a demand for Hulk after Avengers.

[Fugitoid Jones]

I'm going to go ahead and predict that this movie, The Avengers, will be the best movie not only of 2012, but also 2013, and maybe 1996.

I thought they nailed everything in this movie perfectly. The action, the humor, the character moments, the story, it all just fit together to make one of the most entertaining pieces of cinema I've ever seen. Anyone that dislikes this movie is probably a huge film snob and needs to pull their heads out of their own ***es.

I really do hope we get more Hulk movies starring Mark Ruffalo, cause he was just brilliant as Bruce Banner. I was skeptical of him playing that role, but boy did he make a believer out of me!

Can't wait to see this movie again!

[TheCanadiandrome]

Great movie!! Lots of great timing with the humor

Hulk to Loki, "puny god" and the punch to Thor and yelling to revive Iron Man, the last easter egg in the credits in the restaurant,

So wanna see it again, can't wait to own it!!

[MrPliggins]

both times I saw it, Hulk's line was drowned out by laughter. That scene was hilarious though. The look on Loki's face is priceless.

[Raven]

Great movie!! Lots of great timing with the humor

Hulk to Loki, "puny god" and the punch to Thor and yelling to revive Iron Man, the last easter egg in the credits in the restaurant,

So wanna see it again, can't wait to own it!!

There were so many great moments but these were defiantly my favorite!

[ZariusTwo]

Anyone that dislikes this movie is probably a huge film snob and needs to pull their heads out of their own ***es.

..Or there people who have seen far better movies (both superhero and non-superhero alike) in their lives and prefer not to join in a simple-minded pack mentality of "LICK MARVEL'S A$$ OR WE'LL KICK YOURS" like some loyalist imbecile. There entitled to their opinion even if it's an unpopular one. Grown-ups actually respect that.

I liked the movie, but it is not the best thing ever made, and to pretend it is just to be part of the mainstream herd is a worse thing to do IMO, as time will eventually age it and you'll up end up looking dumb for making it out to be something greater than it is.

I fully expect Dark Knight Rises to whip this movie both in terms of scope and story.

[Cure]

I fully expect Dark Knight Rises to whip this movie both in terms of scope and story.

Grown ups don't make everything into a competition.

[Barkworm]

I saw it a couple of days ago, most of it was fantastic. The talk about it not being "deep" enough is hilarious to me, when I want to see an "intellectually involving" film, the last thing that comes to my mind is a super hero film.

[Memphis]

..Or there people who have seen far better movies (both superhero and non-superhero alike) in their lives and prefer not to join in a simple-minded pack mentality of "LICK MARVEL'S A$$ OR WE'LL KICK YOURS" like some loyalist imbecile. There entitled to their opinion even if it's an unpopular one. Grown-ups actually respect that.

I liked the movie, but it is not the best thing ever made, and to pretend it is just to be part of the mainstream herd is a worse thing to do IMO, as time will eventually age it and you'll up end up looking dumb for making it out to be something greater than it is.

I fully expect Dark Knight Rises to whip this movie both in terms of scope and story.

You can't compare DKR to the Avenvers because they have nothing in common other than both being super hero movies. Honestly, TDK was not the amazing spectacle everyone makes it out to be. It was good, don't get me wrong, but it paled in comparison to Batman Begins. Joker was its only asset. I don't see DKR being any better.

[That Matt Guy]

The talk about it not being "deep" enough is hilarious to me, when I want to see an "intellectually involving" film, the last thing that comes to my mind is a super hero film.

I agree. I have never walked away from a comic book movie thinking anything other than "that was really fun" or "that was really bad"

Honestly, TDK was not the amazing spectacle everyone makes it out to be. It was good, don't get me wrong, but it paled in comparison to Batman Begins. Joker was its only asset. I don't see DKR being any better.

Totally agree, Batman Begins is probably my favorite Batman movie. Every clip or trailer from the Dark Knight Rises that comes along looks less and less like a Batman movie to me. It seems like we'll see more Bruce Wayne than the god damn Batman.

[Barkworm]

I'm one of the few who never really liked Batman Begins for several reasons (mostly the incredibly cheesy dialogue), I liked TDK much better but primarily because of Ledger's Joker. Nevertheless I've always felt that the final act with Joker trying to prove that Gotham's people will kill each other was corny as hell.

[Memphis]

My biggest complaint with the current Batman movies is Bale's voice as Batman. I just hate the growling tone. I'm still on team Keaton as best Batman.

[Hannah]

This movie was almost everything I want a superhero movie to be. I really really wish there were a bigger female presence in the movie, but I didn't go into it expecting any more than what I got, for obvious reasons. I absolutely loved the relationship between Tony and Banner. Also, Ruffalo was f*cking amazing as Banner. But Ruffalo is amazing in pretty much every role he plays. Love him.
The movie was engaging, funny, and exciting. It didn't need to be any "deeper" than it was- it's based off of comic books, people. Comics are ridiculous.


<3 Joss Whedon. so much.

[TheCanadiandrome]

both times I saw it, Hulk's line was drowned out by laughter. That scene was hilarious though. The look on Loki's face is priceless.

yeah i lol'd like crazy :lol:

There were so many great moments but these were defiantly my favorite!

yeah for sure

[Spitfire]

Avengers is what a comic book movie should be. It hit all the marks for me. I've been waiting since the early 2000s to see a comic movie unhinge like that and have a climax worthy of the characters. Watching an entire city be destroyed on top of a massive battle was exactly what I wanted to see. You usually only see that level of action in cartoons. I expect a film should be able to surpass, or at very least match, that.

I could weigh in on the Batman vs Marvel movie debate. Depending on how you rate films personally a film like Avengers could be better then Batman or vice versa. For me I look at it like this. As a comic book movie Dark Knight sucks pretty much out right. It doesn't have a comic book tone at all and the trailers for Dark Knight Rises are looking to be more of that. However Dark Knight is still a good movie, great in fact. I just don't judge it as a comic book film. It lacks almost everything that makes comic book movies what they are. Batman may just be a normal guy and one could argue he lends himself to reality the best but I think anyone whose read a Batman comic will tell you otherwise. In the comics he's punching out demi-gods and fighting guys made out of clay. He's just as ridiculous as any other comic book character. Nolan's movies remove the comic element of Batman.

So to me Batman films are great films, but bad comic book movies. Marvel's films are great comic films, and still good movies*well a good bit of them*. In the end they're all entertaining and if you want a movie to entertain you you can't go wrong with something like Avengers.

[Redeemer]

Wait so what makes a movie more like a comic book film/movie you really didn't explain that well

[Spitfire]

Wait so what makes a movie more like a comic book film/movie you really didn't explain that well

Obviously this is all opinion based but for me it's mainly tone and plot. A comic movie plot is a plot that's so ridiculous you can really only accept it in the framework of a comic book movie. Like the plot for Spider-man 2. Dr. Octopus making a machine that's capable of creating a ball of energy as powerful as the sun by using robotic arms that he controls with his mind. Robotic arms that take control of his mind after a failed lab experiment. Then he gets beat up by a guy who has super powers because he was bitten by a radioactive spider. I mean really this is only the kind of thing you can do in a comic book movie.

There's also the tone though. I guess I don't know how to properly explain that but comic movies never tend to take themselves too seriously. The stakes are often times ridiculously large. The entire city, or planet, is in danger and only one person can stop them. Yet while defeating the bad guy, who usually is just one really powerful person, they have time to crack jokes and keep the mood light. It almost has a B-movie, Evil Dead, quality to it where no matter how bad or insane things get there's always room for a joke.

Then there's the costumes. Yeah in some comic movies like X-men they tried to make the costumes more realistic but that aside you look at most movie hero costumes they're hardly practical in any sense. Black Widow runs around kicking the crap out of people wearing high heels. While Ironman's suit is awesome looking realistically he would need some crazy ass power source to run it for more then 5 minutes and on top of that he uses the power source to keep himself alive. These are all things we accept because we're dealing with the realm of comic books. Something that allows a concept like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles to be more then completely ridiculous.

The Batman films go out of their way to be as realistic as possible. Obviously there's some unrealistic stuff happening but it's easier to swallow the events of those movies actually happening then anything in most comic films. Batman Begins actually feels a lot more like a comic film then Dark Knight does. Dark Knight plays like a crime drama that happens to have 3 characters dressed differently then everyone else. But there's no guy with octopus arms, no giant green man in purple pants, or one man destroying an entire city. Overall the tone of the films, Dark Knight especially, are rather serious.

Like I said that's just how I see it. I watch films like Darkman and I'm surprised it wasn't a comic first. I watch The Crow and am surprised it was a comic, because it doesn't play like a comic book film at all. Then I watch stuff like Captain America and can tell right off where the source was.

Hope that answers your question.

[Duke]

So to me Batman films are great films, but bad comic book movies. Marvel's films are great comic films, and still good movies*well a good bit of them*. In the end they're all entertaining and if you want a movie to entertain you you can't go wrong with something like Avengers.I really agree with this. The Nolan Batman films don't really remind me of a comic book. The Avengers absolutely reminds me of a comic book. I loved both movies but they aren't comparable to me.

[GK Punk]

This movie was almost everything I want a superhero movie to be. I really really wish there were a bigger female presence in the movie,

During the build up to the movie, I was hoping we'd get at least Ms Marvel added to the cast somehow, but wasn't surprised when it didn't happen.

[Fugitoid Jones]

..Or there people who have seen far better movies (both superhero and non-superhero alike) in their lives and prefer not to join in a simple-minded pack mentality of "LICK MARVEL'S A$$ OR WE'LL KICK YOURS" like some loyalist imbecile. There entitled to their opinion even if it's an unpopular one. Grown-ups actually respect that.

I liked the movie, but it is not the best thing ever made, and to pretend it is just to be part of the mainstream herd is a worse thing to do IMO, as time will eventually age it and you'll up end up looking dumb for making it out to be something greater than it is.

I fully expect Dark Knight Rises to whip this movie both in terms of scope and story.

Yes, you're right, anyone who thoroughly enjoyed The Avengers is a ****-sucking Marvel fan-boy, and is only liking the film because it's the 'cool' thing and everybody else does. Your logic is sound.

And looking back at my post, I clearly meant to say that The Avengers was the best thing ever made. I didn't actually type it, but by God, if ZariusTwo saw it in my post, yer damned right it was implyed.

What was implyed, however, was when I said:
Anyone that dislikes this movie is probably a huge film snob and needs to pull their heads out of their own ***es.

I was basically saying that I found it hard for anyone to walk away from the movie and not be at least entertained by it. Maybe it wasn't deep or philosophical, but it wasn't trying to, it was just trying to be fun.

"I fully expect Dark Knight Rises to whip this movie both in terms of scope and story" And I fully expect The Amazing Spider-Man to whip The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel in terms of special FX and action.

[Raphael86]

Just saw it again. Still kick ass.

I so wish the Warners would settle this Superman lawsuit and do a Superman movie in this tone. I can almost guarantee that the Zack Snyder movie is going to suck by its circumstances alone.

[Slap-Happy]

I can almost guarantee that the Zack Snyder movie is going to suck by its circumstances alone.

You can guarantee? We've seen next to nothing officially from the movie (we've only seen set pics aside from a few official images.)

And what are these "circumstances" you mention?

[Raphael86]

You can guarantee? We've seen next to nothing officially from the movie (we've only seen set pics aside from a few official images.)

And what are these "circumstances" you mention?

There is currently a lawsuit for the rights to Superman. A lawyer named Marc Toberof is using the heirs of Jerry Siegel & Joe Schuster to gain the rights to Superman and line his own pockets. It's gotten so bad that they literally got his little red undies in the suit, thus their absence in the movie and the new comics. A few years ago, a judge stated that WB had to have a Superman movie in production by 2012 or they would have to fork out hundreds of millions in damages to the heirs and Toberof. So basically they're slapping this movie together to avoid that (200 mill for a movie's budget is less painful than over 600 mill for money they could claim the studio owes them for Superman-related projects like Superman Returns and Smallville). Plus the rights revert back to the heirs next year, so this may very well be the last Superman movie for a long time, and it's being thrown together to meet the deadline.

In addition to this, Christopher Nolan got the ball rolling on this, intending to godfather it. After it started taking shape and they hired Snyder, Nolan basically dropped the whole thing, claiming he couldn't devote the time to it due to his own work on TDKR. But it's pretty apparent he saw it turning into another Green Lantern and dropped it like it was hot. I can pretty much guarantee this will be disappointing.

[Raphael86]

Well, anyway, saw it again. I wouldn't be shocked if Coulson just got Duke stabbed and he's in a coma somewhere. I highly doubt he's gone forever.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Well, anyway, saw it again. I wouldn't be shocked if Coulson just got Duke stabbed and he's in a coma somewhere. I highly doubt he's gone forever.

interesting theory

[Fugitoid Jones]

Well, anyway, saw it again. I wouldn't be shocked if Coulson just got Duke stabbed and he's in a coma somewhere. I highly doubt he's gone forever.

Or.....

Life model decoy?

[Raphael86]

Or.....

Life model decoy?

That's entirely possible as well. I can't help but wonder if Stark's quip when he answers Coulson's phone call is a big hint.

[Raphael86]

After just 19 days, the Avengers has crossed the $1 billion mark worldwide. Damn.

[oldmanwinters]

After just 19 days, the Avengers has crossed the $1 billion mark worldwide. Damn.

3D tickets are Expensive.

[TheCanadiandrome]

After just 19 days, the Avengers has crossed the $1 billion mark worldwide. Damn.

too cool! wonder if Batman will catch up to that

3D tickets are Expensive.

yes indeed

[MrPliggins]

Is the 3d fake looking? I know it wasn't shot in 3d. Is it "Clash of the Titans" bad?

[Fugitoid Jones]

Is the 3d fake looking? I know it wasn't shot in 3d. Is it "Clash of the Titans" bad?

Nope, the 3D actually wasn't bad. It wasn't Avatar quality, but def not as bad as Clash or even Alice In Wonderland.

[Candy Kappa]

The 3-D was pretty good, instead of being gimmick heavy it was mainly there just to enhance the picture.

[TheCanadiandrome]

The 3-D was pretty good, instead of being gimmick heavy it was mainly there just to enhance the picture.

Yeah that's what I thought

[Peanut]

The movie was f*cking great. It was probably the best example of a comic book put to screen. It was full of made up science jargon, had tons of cheesy one-liners, a couple of nicely placed group shots, plenty completely unbelievable situations resolved by nonsense, and a few obvious pandering shots.

Is it weird that everything wrong with comics is what made this movie so f*cking great to me? Definitely struck some long-dormant comic nerd chords. I might actually try and dig out my collection and give some favourites a read just because.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Is it weird that everything wrong with comics is what made this movie so f*cking great to me?

nope, and I'd bet you're not the only one who thinks so

[Jephael]

I went to see the movie three times within a month. If I wasn't moving back home I'd probably go see it a few more times!