View Full Version : 'Twilight' Will Officially End on November 18, 2011
The Deadman
05-05-2010, 01:48 PM
http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/20087
Summit Entertainment has announced a November 18, 2011 release date for the Bill Condon directed The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn, the fourth and final adaptation of the popular Stephenie Meyers vampire/werewolves franchise. In the film starring Robert Pattinson, Kristen Stewart and Taylor Lautner, pulled in one direction by her intense passion for Edward Cullen, and in another by her profound connection to Jacob Black, Bella Swan has endured a tumultuous year of temptation, loss, and strife to reach the ultimate turning point. Now that Bella has made her decision, a startling chain of unprecedented events is about to unfold with potentially devastating and unfathomable consequences. Mark those calendars as we now have something worthy of celebrating -- the end of the franchise.
thank god, the fandom can finally go away and we can get good, better vampire movies
Yeah, like there were so many vampire films before Twilight. Even then, Daybreakers came out recently and that movie was good, so don't be dumb.
Doc_ock_4mugen
05-05-2010, 02:22 PM
Don't count on it yet... There were talks about making breaking dawn into 2 films (like HP and the Deathly Hallows) and in 3D... So we might get a lot of "OMG Edwardz sparkling abs look so hott in 3d!!" Ugh!
Also Stephenie Meyer still owes the Twihards the Midnight Sun Novel (Twilight from Edward's Point of View... She might do the same for the other books if she needs t milk it some more...)
I can't wait for it to end too!
Brodie
05-05-2010, 02:34 PM
Yeah, like there were so many vampire films before Twilight.
What the **** does that statement even mean?
plastroncafe
05-05-2010, 02:49 PM
Don't count on it yet... There were talks about making breaking dawn into 2 films (like HP and the Deathly Hallows) and in 3D... So we might get a lot of "OMG Edwardz sparkling abs look so hott in 3d!!" Ugh!
...really? Really truly?
Because...if that happens, I'm SO THERE!
I'm by no means a fan of the whole Twilight saga, or the phenomenon that followed, but there is NO WAY in hell that I'm going to miss the last book in 3D High Def.
The Stryker
05-05-2010, 03:36 PM
This is news? Of course it's going to end because it's the last book. Who cares? Let the people who like it, like it and shut up.
What the **** does that statement even mean?
Vampire movies weren't exactly releasing every week before Twilight came along. Twilight didn't change how often they come out or anything.
Brodie
05-05-2010, 04:24 PM
No, but...Twilight isn't releasing every week either?
There's a significant back catalog of GOOD vampire movies that exist. While I agree that Twilight has brought Vampires into an odd sense of mainstream, there were a slew of vampire movies before the Twilight movies, in a more steady/quick fashion.
Spitfire
05-05-2010, 06:32 PM
Yeah like the horrible Underworld series which keeps shamelessly making movies.
I doubt they will just end it. If the series does well up until the end they will keep making them and probably won't stop till it starts becoming unprofitable. They will make a prequel film or something if they have to.
Doc_ock_4mugen
05-05-2010, 07:55 PM
...really? Really truly?
Because...if that happens, I'm SO THERE!
I'm by no means a fan of the whole Twilight saga, or the phenomenon that followed, but there is NO WAY in hell that I'm going to miss the last book in 3D High Def.
I just want to see the Birth of Renesmee in 3D... (If the 3D rumors are true.)
Mutated Turtle
05-05-2010, 08:06 PM
YAY!Breaking Dawn IS GOING to be a two part movie,so,two more movies.
Mutated Turtle
05-05-2010, 08:27 PM
Twilight is terrible. :)
Agreed.100% agreed.
plastroncafe
05-05-2010, 10:11 PM
I just want to see the Birth of Renesmee in 3D... (If the 3D rumors are true.)
Exactly. That alone will be worth the price of admission.
Twilight is terrible. :)
Or as I like to call it... WHYlight.
Brodie
05-06-2010, 01:30 PM
ARGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Ben, does it hurt to try so hard?
ARGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Ben, does it hurt to try so hard?
Who said I was 'trying'?
Anybody could've made that joke. :P
Prowler
05-23-2010, 11:36 AM
I f it ended 3 days earlier it could have been a great birthday present for me, the death of Twillight.
The Stryker
05-23-2010, 11:47 AM
I f it ended 3 days earlier it could have been a great birthday present for me, the death of Twillight.
Psst. The book series is still around.
BubblyShell22
05-24-2010, 11:59 AM
Well, we know it'll all end becaue Breaking Dawn is the last book. As for Midnight Sun, I heard Steph wasn't going to do it because some of the chapters got leaked on the Internet, so she stopped writing it. Frankly, I think that if she did write Midnight Sun, it should be more about backstories for the Cullens and not Edward's POV on a book we've already read. I am excited for BD though.
Doc_ock_4mugen
05-24-2010, 07:42 PM
Well, we know it'll all end becaue Breaking Dawn is the last book. As for Midnight Sun, I heard Steph wasn't going to do it because some of the chapters got leaked on the Internet, so she stopped writing it. Frankly, I think that if she did write Midnight Sun, it should be more about backstories for the Cullens and not Edward's POV on a book we've already read. I am excited for BD though.
I'm more interested in Edward's PoV during New Moon. (and his Pre-Bella days...) but I'd rather know more about the others as well.
BubblyShell22
05-28-2010, 12:11 PM
Yeah, she should do a story about the others and about Edward's days before he met Bella. I don't think the series is as bad as many people make it out to be. I really enjoyed Steph's writing and can't wait to see what else she'll write about.
Raph's Girl
06-10-2010, 09:46 PM
Twilight won't officially end in 2011. They have decided that the 4th book needs to be spread out into 2 movies.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/37628571/ns/today-entertainment/
BubblyShell22
06-11-2010, 08:03 AM
Really? That's cool.
TheCanadiandrome
06-11-2010, 11:34 AM
yay, two more Twilight movies! that's kinda what alot of people speculated. heck, i'm reading the last book now and was wondering how there could only be one more movie!
BubblyShell22
06-12-2010, 10:33 AM
Hey, TMNT25, have you read that Eclipse novella The Short Second Life of Bree Tanner yet? You should really check it out. It's good. I just hate that it's so short and I was able to read it in a day.
TheCanadiandrome
06-12-2010, 07:22 PM
Hey, TMNT25, have you read that Eclipse novella The Short Second Life of Bree Tanner yet? You should really check it out. It's good. I just hate that it's so short and I was able to read it in a day.
i'm going to read it when i'm done Breaking Dawn.
BubblyShell22
06-13-2010, 04:30 PM
You'll like it though it's very short. I wish Steph would've made it longer. I'm rereading Twilight now.
TheCanadiandrome
06-14-2010, 01:02 PM
You'll like it though it's very short. I wish Steph would've made it longer. I'm rereading Twilight now.
Breaking Dawn is very strange. i think the strangest of all the books. but so good, it's hard to put down
This news makes me both happy pants and sad pants at the same time.
JUST A FEW MORE YEARS...
BubblyShell22
06-15-2010, 12:38 PM
Why are you happy and sad?
And, yes, TMNT25, I agree that BD is a strange book in some ways but also very good.
TheCanadiandrome
06-15-2010, 10:06 PM
yeah BD is good. as i'm reading it, i'm finding myself wondering "how will this and that part look in the movie?" and "should this part be in the movie?"
BubblyShell22
06-16-2010, 07:19 PM
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how the movie will match the book. I have to say that Summit has done an excellent job at putting the books on screen and being true to them thus far. I'm anticipating what will happen with Eclipse.
TheCanadiandrome
06-16-2010, 10:41 PM
cineplex.com has a bunch of trailers for Eclipse on their site. i'm so there to see it, Saturday!
BubblyShell22
06-17-2010, 02:26 PM
Cool. I'm probably going to see it with my BF on Friday after it comes out 'cause that's our anniversary. But I'll talk to him first to see if he wants to see it.
TheCanadiandrome
06-17-2010, 10:35 PM
Cool. I'm probably going to see it with my BF on Friday after it comes out 'cause that's our anniversary. But I'll talk to him first to see if he wants to see it.
yeah i'd do that first, he might not be up for that! lol!
BubblyShell22
06-18-2010, 09:00 AM
Well, he did see New Moon with me, but it's best to consult him first because that's the polite thing to do. He also liked Twilight when I brought it over for him to see. I don't think he'll mind though. I think as long as he's spending time with me, it doesn't matter what we do.
TheCanadiandrome
06-18-2010, 05:18 PM
well let's hope we all...nah...of course we're all going to enjoy it! :D
BubblyShell22
06-19-2010, 02:17 PM
Yeah, he doesn't mind seeing a movie with me. He loves just being around me, and I feel the same way.
ooglafina
06-19-2010, 03:51 PM
I'm still surprised that Condon is doing the last two movies for some reason.
I've never been able to get into "Twilight." I dutifully rented the first one and watched as Bella watched Edward and Edward watched Bella and they watched each other. There was a whole lot of staring going on.
It just made me think of Buffy and Angel, but without the irony of Buffy being a slayer.
BubblyShell22
06-20-2010, 06:26 PM
I enjoyed the books because they put a different spin on the whole vampire thing. Steph made them a bit different than the usual stereotypical ones we've usually seen.
TheCanadiandrome
06-20-2010, 10:32 PM
yeah that's kinda how i fealt. though i wasn't originally on board with Twilight at first, mainly due with the whole "sparkling" in the sun thing, once i read the books and saw the first two movies, i changed my mind, and i find the whole saga to be epic
BubblyShell22
06-22-2010, 09:04 AM
My mom got me into the books when she said that the kids at school were reading them and loved them. So, since I'm always open to new reading material, I gave them a shot and really enjoyed them.
TheCanadiandrome
06-23-2010, 12:31 PM
for me i think it was all the talk from friends and co-workers that got me interested in Twilight enough to read the books and watch the movies. got the books from a co-worker of my Mom's. just waiting on the last small novel on the Newborn Brie
BubblyShell22
06-23-2010, 04:05 PM
The one with Bree is really good, but it's pretty short. I read it in a day.
TheCanadiandrome
06-23-2010, 07:42 PM
The one with Bree is really good, but it's pretty short. I read it in a day.
really? can't wait to read it
TheCanadiandrome
06-24-2010, 11:59 AM
anyone watch "Jimmy Kimmel's Twilight Total Eclipse of the heart" special last night? i did, it was good
BubblyShell22
06-25-2010, 08:28 AM
Nope, didn't catch it. I don't stay up to watch late-night TV because I'm usually too tired.
Why are you happy and sad?
Happy because it's ending. Sad because it's got a few years left before it's all over.
BubblyShell22
06-26-2010, 05:46 PM
Ah, I see. Thanks for clearing that up.
TheCanadiandrome
06-27-2010, 04:37 PM
just reading the "Second Short life of Bree Tanner" now
BubblyShell22
06-27-2010, 05:47 PM
Cool. What do you think so far?
TheCanadiandrome
06-27-2010, 06:23 PM
only a few pages in
BubblyShell22
06-29-2010, 08:57 AM
Oh, okay. Well, I'm going to see Eclipse with my BF this Friday. I can't wait.
ooglafina
06-29-2010, 09:46 AM
I've watched the first Twilight movie twice now and keep wondering why all Bella does is stare at Edward. Most of the time I'm thinking, "Well, that's really bizarre" "What's wrong with you now, Ed, forget to take your Prozac again?" And she never does anything but stare at him with her tongue hanging out. Weird. Maybe I'm more curious than the average 16 year old girl who is pathologically clumsy and seems to have no outstanding characteristics besides that she wants to get laid by a vampire.
TheCanadiandrome
06-29-2010, 12:24 PM
I've watched the first Twilight movie twice now and keep wondering why all Bella does is stare at Edward. Most of the time I'm thinking, "Well, that's really bizarre" "What's wrong with you now, Ed, forget to take your Prozac again?" And she never does anything but stare at him with her tongue hanging out. Weird. Maybe I'm more curious than the average 16 year old girl who is pathologically clumsy and seems to have no outstanding characteristics besides that she wants to get laid by a vampire.
rofl, damn! me thinks you're looking too much into it, lol!
BubblyShell22
06-30-2010, 11:15 AM
I think she stares at him because she finds him attractive and is entranced by his beauty. In the books Edward has the power to dazzle people just by the sound of his voice, which he even does to Bella. I don't think it's that she wants to get laid by him, she just naturally likes him and can't take her eyes off him.
TheCanadiandrome
06-30-2010, 12:14 PM
well got my ticket for the Sat Twilight showing at 7pm! so psyched! and i'm almost done the "Second Short life of Bree Tanner" and i'm diggin it
BubblyShell22
07-01-2010, 10:59 AM
Well, my BF and I are seeing Eclipse tomorrow. Can't wait.
TheCanadiandrome
07-01-2010, 03:31 PM
finished "Second Short life of Bree Tanner" and i must say it was good, even though i knew the ending from reading Eclipse
i still can't help but feel sorry for Bree. and also her friend Diego. and i wonder what became of Fred? i hope he made it to Vancouver.
BubblyShell22
07-03-2010, 09:19 AM
Yeah, I had a feeling Diego was dead, and I did wonder about Fred. As for Bree, I also regret that Steph decided to kill her off because she was such a good character. However, that's what fan fiction is for because you can make up a story where Bree lived. I might do that myself if I get the time.
Just saw Eclipse yesterday, and it was awesome. I won't say any more here because I don't want to spoil it. However, I will say that the fight scenes were awesome and the backstories for Jasper and Rosalie were well done, too.
TheCanadiandrome
07-03-2010, 11:28 PM
Yeah, I had a feeling Diego was dead, and I did wonder about Fred. As for Bree, I also regret that Steph decided to kill her off because she was such a good character. However, that's what fan fiction is for because you can make up a story where Bree lived. I might do that myself if I get the time.
Just saw Eclipse yesterday, and it was awesome. I won't say any more here because I don't want to spoil it. However, I will say that the fight scenes were awesome and the backstories for Jasper and Rosalie were well done, too.
just saw Eclipse tonight, and i couldn't agree more. best film of the franchise so far!
BubblyShell22
07-04-2010, 08:13 AM
Yeah, it was very well done. I really liked all of the fight scenes. I can't wait to see what they do with Breaking Dawn.
TheCanadiandrome
07-04-2010, 11:57 AM
Yeah, it was very well done. I really liked all of the fight scenes. I can't wait to see what they do with Breaking Dawn.
you and me both
BubblyShell22
07-06-2010, 09:40 AM
The only thing I didn't like in BD was that the action was really dragged out leaving you in suspense. That bugged me a bit.
TheCanadiandrome
07-06-2010, 11:52 AM
lol, yeah but it'll be interesting to see how it plays out in the two movies
BubblyShell22
07-07-2010, 08:21 AM
Well, the final battle will more than likely be in part two. I just can't wait to see where they cut it off in the first one.
TheCanadiandrome
07-07-2010, 02:48 PM
Well, the final battle will more than likely be in part two. I just can't wait to see where they cut it off in the first one.
i'm think somewhere along these lines:
after Bella and Edward have sex and she gets pregnant and they rush to return to the States; and around the part where Jacob runs off in search of a "mate".
then part two picks up after Bella has the baby and Edward's fighting to turn her into a Vampire.
that's just my guess
BubblyShell22
07-08-2010, 08:18 AM
Yeah, that's probably where they'll cut it off. That sounds logical to me.
TheCanadiandrome
07-08-2010, 10:17 AM
do u remember if there's been release dates set yet?
Shellsweet
07-08-2010, 11:11 AM
I'm off to see Eclipes today with my best friend heh, She had no one to go with so I'm going to be her victim and go with her. But I herd it's pretty good.
Glittering Vampires still don't do a lot for me.
TheCanadiandrome
07-08-2010, 11:33 AM
I'm off to see Eclipes today with my best friend heh, She had no one to go with so I'm going to be her victim and go with her. But I herd it's pretty good.
Glittering Vampires still don't do a lot for me.
it's awesome. well worth it, imho. enjoy
BubblyShell22
07-08-2010, 01:50 PM
Go see it, Shellsweet. You won't be disappointed.
As for release dates, I haven't heard anything yet. If I do, I'll let you know.
Shellsweet
07-08-2010, 03:50 PM
just came home a few hours. If your a fan you'll probabtly like it...
I was bored though...Too much Kissing. Need more Fighting.
But that's just me.
I was bored though...Too much Kissing. Need more Fighting.
But that's just me.
It's a tween soap opera, why wouldn't there be kissing? The fans go to see mainly that.
TheCanadiandrome
07-08-2010, 07:14 PM
no not all the fans go to see mainly that.
Shellsweet
07-08-2010, 08:13 PM
Haha, I don't mind some kissing scenes, but it was like, half of the movie was kissing, it annoyed me.
I'm not much of a romance/ Chick flick person.
But my best friend enjoyed it, so that's what mattered. She didn't have anyone to go with her.
BubblyShell22
07-09-2010, 08:37 AM
I didn't go to the movie to see the kissing. I went to see the fighting, and I think there was enough fighting in there to make me happy. They did a good job with the battle scenes. I also liked some of the added scenes with the newborn army.
TheCanadiandrome
07-09-2010, 10:00 AM
I didn't go to the movie to see the kissing. I went to see the fighting, and I think there was enough fighting in there to make me happy. They did a good job with the battle scenes. I also liked some of the added scenes with the newborn army.
huzzah! i'm right there with you on that
Haha, I don't mind some kissing scenes, but it was like, half of the movie was kissing, it annoyed me.
I'm not much of a romance/ Chick flick person.
But my best friend enjoyed it, so that's what mattered. She didn't have anyone to go with her.
that's good. in the end that is all that mattered
BubblyShell22
07-10-2010, 08:30 AM
I agree. As long as your friend was happy, that's a good thing. And as long as she liked the movie, that's an even better thing.
Redeemer
07-20-2010, 06:18 AM
Thank u ! LOL I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to reboot it eventually, but I hope they do just end and not keep it going. The story and books were great, the movies were ok so just keep it and dont try to prolong it.
BubblyShell22
07-20-2010, 08:30 AM
I'm glad the movies follow the books very closely. I would like to see a film adaptation of The Second Short Life of Bree Tanner.
TheCanadiandrome
07-20-2010, 07:59 PM
I'm glad the movies follow the books very closely. I would like to see a film adaptation of The Second Short Life of Bree Tanner.
i second that.
a co-worker of mine told me that Stephanie Myer had an apparent or alleged manuscript for a potential book on Edward's origin, or something along those lines, any way it got leaked out and she cancelled it. so i'm guessing there go any new books
BubblyShell22
07-22-2010, 04:39 PM
I heard it was just Twilight in Edward's POV, and it got leaked, so she nixed it. I would love to see a book just on the origins of the Cullens and how they all joined together as a family. I'd also love to see a book on Renesmee after Breaking Dawn.
TheCanadiandrome
07-22-2010, 07:19 PM
I heard it was just Twilight in Edward's POV, and it got leaked, so she nixed it. I would love to see a book just on the origins of the Cullens and how they all joined together as a family. I'd also love to see a book on Renesmee after Breaking Dawn.
yeah but odds aren't so good. if one thing gets leaked who's to say more wouldn't, then she'd axe them all
BubblyShell22
07-23-2010, 08:51 AM
Well, she should have people she could trust not to leak it. She could always change the plot if that happens. It's not fair to the readers for her to just stop making a book if it's leaked. I say she should find out who leaked it and report them.
TheCanadiandrome
07-23-2010, 03:24 PM
Well, she should have people she could trust not to leak it. She could always change the plot if that happens. It's not fair to the readers for her to just stop making a book if it's leaked. I say she should find out who leaked it and report them.
exactly, i agree with you. guess it's a wait and see
BubblyShell22
07-24-2010, 02:05 PM
Yep. It's her decision ultimately.
Andrew NDB
07-23-2021, 03:36 AM
I'm giving these all a gander. They're all on Netflix now so I wouldn't need to bother pi -- I mean, trying to find them anywhere or burning any calories to that end (because I wouldn't ever bother). So why not.
You know. Maybe they're not so bad? I mean, I'd way rather watch or end up suffering through these than "Out of the Shadows."
I'm giving these all a gander. They're all on Netflix now so I wouldn't need to bother pi -- I mean, trying to find them anywhere or burning any calories to that end (because I wouldn't ever bother). So why not.
You know. Maybe they're not so bad? I mean, I'd way rather watch or end up suffering through these than "Out of the Shadows."
I've always wanted to do it, I watched the first 2 or 3 movies when they came out. I really liked them for what they were, they aren't horror movies, just a vampire in modern day love drama. It's a fine movie, the whole internet hate it had was just men angry it wasn't something for them and dog piling on it. They're alright movies with cool ideas. They're definitely not something mindblowing either, but neither is say the original space jam and people love it.
The first movie has my favorite Superman moment on film and it wasn't done by superman:
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Andrew NDB
07-24-2021, 05:10 AM
I've always wanted to do it, I watched the first 2 or 3 movies when they came out. I really liked them for what they were, they aren't horror movies, just a vampire in modern day love drama. It's a fine movie, the whole internet hate it had was just men angry it wasn't something for them and dog piling on it. They're alright movies with cool ideas. They're definitely not something mindblowing either, but neither is say the original space jam and people love it.
The first movie has my favorite Superman moment on film and it wasn't done by superman:
bpcwhWgWfCc
I admit, that was a decent scene. And save.
So I watched all of the first one last night. Beyond some bafflingly bad editing (tons of continuity issues, people about to speak and being chopped away from, totally different expressions from one cut to the next, etc.) it was rather sound. Obviously my preferred version of vampires is not ones that glow in the sunlight... but they make it work. For this.
I honestly think they should have gone the R rated route for this. This isn't a hack'em up gore fest or anything.... but there's at least a couple of scenes of some pretty gory stuff that we, well, never get to see. Or are blurry in the background. If this had been hard R we would have gotten that stuff and been allowed to get a movie with teens talking like real teens. I think that may have increased the appeal of this across the gender divide. And yeah, the "couple" do seem to have chemistry. I listened to Kristen Stewart interview by Howard Stern a couple years ago (I mean, the one conducted then... I watched it now because at times I'm a glutton for celebrity gossip, sadly) where she kind of bore it all about what happened with Pattinson and I get it now. And her a little bit as a person and an actress.
Started to watch part 2, "New Moon." Mm. This might be harder. It's not shot badly but... everyone is mumbling and I'm missing large chunks of what people are saying (and I have a GREAT sound system). The director didn't step up here. I'm about 30 minutes in and kind of looking at my watch.
MsMarvelDuckie
07-25-2021, 01:04 AM
Ugh, I tried to get through the first movie and book, couldn't even finish either one. I feel like the Twilight series kind of ruined vampires for the next few years at least. Sparkly vampires are just not scary or interesting, and add nothing to the mythology. As for Bella, I just wanted her to die before I was even halfway through the first book. It says something when someone who loves vampire stories as much as I do starts wanting the main protagonist to get run over or fall off a cliff or something just to end the story faster. Not sure what anyone ever saw in these books/movies. Imho, for a teen vampire novel, The Silver Kiss was WAAAY better!
It's the second movie where the girls is pretty much using and taking advantage of the wolf guy and using his feelings to make vampire guy jealous right? Man, what a bitch and poor guy. That's why I loved the second movie because of how cold hearted that girl was.
Andrew NDB
07-25-2021, 08:00 PM
It's the second movie where the girls is pretty much using and taking advantage of the wolf guy and using his feelings to make vampire guy jealous right? Man, what a bitch and poor guy. That's why I loved the second movie because of how cold hearted that girl was.
Where I left off in the 2nd movie, Edward took Bella deep into some forest... broke up with her and told her it would be like they never met... and then super-sped out of there, leaving her alone and lost in the forest. She had to go to sleep when it got dark and had to be rescued by who I'm assuming is one of the wolf people.
But THAT was pretty Fed up, no?
MsMarvelDuckie
07-25-2021, 11:06 PM
That entire series is like one cluster-f*** of toxic relationships, from what I've heard.
Andrew NDB
07-28-2021, 12:52 AM
Finished part 2. Meh. It was fine. I'm willing to forgive some really late 90s looking CGI on the werewolves but the plot was OK. I liked the stuff with the vampires council. Kristen Stewart is just really difficult to hear half the time because of this muttering/mumbling thing she keeps doing.
*edit: Finished 3 (Eclipse). This felt a little bit more like a "movie" and delivered on some larger scale "war." Basically all that happens is that Bella gets engaged to Edward and pretends to kind of love Jacob for most of the movie because she's a bad person and feels guilty (which she should, because she refuses to even tell Jacob she just got engaged because it might make him not willing to fight for her in the final battle... yeesh).
I don't get the Team Jacob and Team Edward stuff now. Edward is a pretty effeminate dude at times... but Jacob is just flat out bratty and annoying. Also Lautner isn't a very good actor. It's hard to put too much stock in the "love triangle" when Bella makes it clear at every turn she doesn't want Jacob and it's just Jacob pouting and throwing back to back temper tantrums.
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