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Leogeddon
06-17-2010, 04:51 PM
'Epidemic' growth of Net porn cited
Congress must ensure that obscenity laws are enforced so that children are not exposed to pornography on the Internet, researchers and advocates of Internet safety said Tuesday.

Speaking at a briefing at the U.S. Capitol Visitor Center, researchers said because obscenity laws have not been upheld or enforced, illegal adult pornography has flooded and polluted the Internet.

"Today we are calling on Congress and the Department of Justice to ensure that the enforcement of our current obscenity laws is a priority," said Donna Rice Hughes, president of Enough Is Enough, a Virginia-based nonprofit that works to make the Internet safer for children and families. "Our children's innocence is worth fighting for."

Under the law, illegal adult pornography is known as obscenity. Obscenity is defined as graphic material that focuses on sex or sexual violence, and it includes lewd exhibition of the genitals, close-ups of graphic sex acts and deviant activities such as group sex, bestiality and incest.

"It continues to grow and to spread and has reached epidemic proportions," Mrs. Hughes said. "We are facing a national crisis that is every bit as damaging to our citizens and our culture as the oil spill is to the Gulf and the Gulf community."

Statistics show that seven in 10 children have accidentally accessed pornography on the Internet and one in three have done so intentionally. Forty percent of children accidentally access Internet pornography through innocent word searches such as "water sports."

Statistics show that the average age of exposure is 11 years old - some start at 8 years old. Any child is too young, Mrs. Hughes said.

"Imagery definitely affects children," said Dr. Sharon Cooper, a forensic pediatrician and faculty member at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill School of Medicine. "Adult pornography is a good example of giving children unhealthy sexual images."

Pornography normalizes sexual harm, Dr. Cooper said. It shows children a lack of any kind of emotional commitment or relationship between two consensual partners, shows unprotected sexual contact and visual examples often of violent rape.

"When a child sees this image of adult pornography, the mirror neurons that are in their brain will convince them that they are actually experiencing what they are seeing," she said.

Children are very vulnerable as compared to adults because of the presence of mirror neurons in the brain, Dr. Cooper said. Mirror neurons are part of the brain that convince us that when we see something we are actually experiencing it.

According to the American Psychological Association, over the past 12 years, girls have changed in their thinking. They are beginning to see themselves as having their only value in sexuality.

"When a child sees herself only as a sexual object, she is no longer able to demand the kind of respect she deserves," Dr. Cooper said. "The new definition of 'love' these days is sending a sexually explicit picture."
Oh, how society changes... Whatever happened to Truth or Dare? :tcry:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jun/15/epidemic-growth-of-net-porn-cited/

plastroncafe
06-17-2010, 05:02 PM
OH NOES! SOMEONE PROTECT THE CHILDREN!
Because it's clear as day their own parents aren't doing it.

Don't even get me started on the whole myth of innocence...

Leogeddon
06-17-2010, 05:07 PM
OH NOES! SOMEONE PROTECT THE CHILDREN!
Because it's clear as day their own parents aren't doing it.

Don't even get me started on the whole myth of innocence...

No no, we should for some fun.
lol, yeah I agree with you, it's become part of society, hell across the globe not just North America and East Asia, it's acceptable to see people cycle through "lovers" like a woman cycles monthly!
YES, I JUST WENT THERE!

Cowabunga Kiefer
06-17-2010, 09:04 PM
Wow, they're comparing this to the BP oil spill? That's low.

Candy Kappa
06-17-2010, 09:09 PM
internet filter 'nuff said

Koi
06-17-2010, 09:23 PM
Dude, if the kid was so innocent how would the kid know about porn let alone be on the internet looking it up? Who looks up that crud anyway?

愛
06-17-2010, 09:32 PM
I remember the days that I actually had to hide my porn. Now I just leave it on the desktop. :)

Toonami Tom
06-17-2010, 09:39 PM
Pornography fuels the mistreatment of women. There are a lot of guys that look at women as sexual objects. To them it's like having a car, a video game, or a box of cookies.

It's disgusting, and on par with racism in my opinion. Everyone should see each other as equal, and have respect.

I'm not going to compromise what I know is right, just because a percentage of society is engaging in it.

Candy Kappa
06-17-2010, 09:45 PM
Pornography fuels the mistreatment of women.

and video games are murder simulators

Koi
06-17-2010, 09:46 PM
Pornography fuels the mistreatment of women. There are a lot of guys that look at women as sexual objects. To them it's like having a car, a video game, or a box of cookies.

It's disgusting, and on par with racism in my opinion. Everyone should see each other as equal, and have respect.

I'm not going to compromise what I know is right, just because a percentage of society is engaging in it.

... I never thought about it like that. That is a really interesting opinion.

I really want a box of cookies now though.

Toonami Tom
06-17-2010, 09:47 PM
and video games are murder simulators

In my opinion, some video games are, actually.

Powder
06-17-2010, 09:58 PM
All I can say is they shouldnt worry about the porn right now. Sexual innuendos and promiscuity are all over the place. Magazines, billboards, TV, radio ads, video games. Look at the way some of the female characters in cartoons are dressed, even. Plenty of kids watch MTV which is basically sex disguised as beauty/glamour. Childrens pageants where they judge them in bathing suits, make them dance like strippers & sh!t blah blah blah... Girls are bred to be pieces of meat in this generation. As for the boys, those kids didn't find porn on accident. They looked for it, got caught and lied. They only feel interested/stimulated by being exposed to innapropriate things at a young age via TV. Don't worry about us losers who needa jack off now & then, worry about what your kids are being brainwashed into thinking is acceptable.

...As bad as the oil spill eh?

So, every time I bust a nut at pornhub I'm killing sea turtles? Damn.

愛
06-17-2010, 09:59 PM
Pornography fuels the mistreatment of women. There are a lot of guys that look at women as sexual objects. To them it's like having a car, a video game, or a box of cookies.

It's disgusting, and on par with racism in my opinion. Everyone should see each other as equal, and have respect.

I'm not going to compromise what I know is right, just because a percentage of society is engaging in it.

Yeah, I have no clue where you get this idea from. Maybe you've been watching too much Jersey Shore.

Spitfire
06-17-2010, 10:01 PM
Porn helps people relive built up sexual tension and video games help relive stress. Both are things that cause people to be violent so I hardly view them as negative.

When I was like 12 we got internet in my house and my Dad had website blockers in place on our internet. If he was using that **** 10 years ago to stop me from looking at porn wtf is stopping parents from doing that now?

Toonami Tom
06-17-2010, 10:21 PM
Yeah, I have no clue where you get this idea from. Maybe you've been watching too much Jersey Shore.

I have that idea based on what I have observed in society. I don't watch Jersey Shore.

People that look at pornography enjoy it, so I don't expect them to stop.

Mostly, I don't care what people do behind closed doors. I do have my opinions, and sometimes I like to tell them. I don't know why I bother tell my opinion though, it doesn't change anything. It probably just pisses people off.

plastroncafe
06-17-2010, 10:34 PM
Pornography fuels the mistreatment of women. There are a lot of guys that look at women as sexual objects. To them it's like having a car, a video game, or a box of cookies.

It's disgusting, and on par with racism in my opinion. Everyone should see each other as equal, and have respect.

I'm not going to compromise what I know is right, just because a percentage of society is engaging in it.

Misogyny fuels the mistreatment of women, not porn.
Oh sure, you can find misogyny in porn, just as you can find it in just about anything. To try and pass them off as one in the same is to take away a woman's agency in fulfilling her own sexual desires.

What I love in this article is the idea that it's only been in the last twelve years that girls have been "programmed" to see themselves as sexual toys for the menfolk. As if Western Culture hasn't been turning that crank for the last couple of thousand years.

Hell you don't even have to go to a history book, go look at the thread: Do you prefer your women in make up. Wear too little make up and you're not desirable and unworthy of attention. Wear too much, and you're one of those horrible social outcasts: women who enjoy having sex.

Toonami Tom
06-17-2010, 10:46 PM
Misogyny fuels the mistreatment of women, not porn.
Oh sure, you can find misogyny in porn, just as you can find it in just about anything. To try and pass them off as one in the same is to take away a woman's agency in fulfilling her own sexual desires.

What I love in this article is the idea that it's only been in the last twelve years that girls have been "programmed" to see themselves as sexual toys for the menfolk. As if Western Culture hasn't been turning that crank for the last couple of thousand years.

Hell you don't even have to go to a history book, go look at the thread: Do you prefer your women in make up. Wear too little make up and you're not desirable and unworthy of attention. Wear too much, and you're one of those horrible social outcasts: women who enjoy having sex.

You make some good points.

Overall, I don't know what the hell is going on here, or why I decided to post in this topic.

Most of the people here probably don't care what I think.

I'm glad this forum has the Role Playing Game section, because that's my favorite section. That's the only reason I even come to this website anymore. Once that's gone, I will be gone too. I'm just not getting any enjoyment out of the other parts of the forum. There are not any new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles episodes to discuss with others anymore.

愛
06-17-2010, 10:58 PM
Sounds like you got some self-confidence issues there, buddy. I'd take you seriously if you didn't stake your whole opinion on the cookie-cutter "everyone makes me sick" mentality. But whatever.

Toonami Tom
06-17-2010, 11:08 PM
Sounds like you got some self-confidence issues there, buddy. I'd take you seriously if you didn't stake your whole opinion on the cookie-cutter "everyone makes me sick" mentality. But whatever.

Self-confidence issues? Yeah, I might have some. I'm not sure about that. I'd like to be taken seriously.

Ninjinister
06-18-2010, 01:05 AM
Pornography fuels the mistreatment of women. There are a lot of guys that look at women as sexual objects.

Because women don't watch porn. Right? RIGHT?

What about gay porn? Surely that is ripe for mistreatment of women, right there.

Yeahhh.

shuriken
06-18-2010, 01:34 AM
Self-confidence issues? Yeah, I might have some. I'm not sure about that. I'd like to be taken seriously.

I feel for you, and I think there are quite a few of them here(myself included) that take you and your opinions seriously.
THAT being said comparing this to the Oil spill is blasphemy. THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AND SEA CREATURES' LIVES ARE IN DANGER CUZ YOU WATCH PORN AND ALLOW CHILDREN TO WATCH IT!! ********
Although I do agree that porn addiction is a problem I know quite a bit of couples that watch it together. But I dunno maybe I'm missing something here.

Candy Kappa
06-18-2010, 09:51 AM
In my opinion, some video games are, actually.

I'd love some real examples, but that's getting off-topic.

Blaming porn for ruining Children's life are idiotic on the same level as blaming video games, comic books, movies and rock'n roll for society's problems.

and siding it at the same scale of horror as the oil spill... wow people are pure idiots. A Oil spill is a local Armageddon ruining life. Porn is a product of a industry aimed at adults. Fuels mistreatment of women? I'm sure the female professional porn actors and directors have something else to say.

If parents want to blame anyone for sexualized little girls view of their own value, how bout the mainstream media playing on sex every freakin' time, or Barbie and Bratz dolls, High-school musical movies.
Or just take a good look in the mirror, talk to the children, control their Internet use. Put on some filters on stuff you don't want them to find.

Parenting isn't any harder or easier then it was a hundred years ago, it just require taking interest in what the child is doing, and act a bit.

Toonami Tom
06-18-2010, 12:46 PM
Because women don't watch porn. Right? RIGHT?

What about gay porn? Surely that is ripe for mistreatment of women, right there.

Yeahhh.

Whatever. Enjoy watching your porn. I don’t care. Just make sure you clean the keyboard before someone else uses it.

I feel for you, and I think there are quite a few of them here(myself included) that take you and your opinions seriously.


Thank you. I appreciate that.


I'd love some real examples, but that's getting off-topic.

Blaming porn for ruining Children's life are idiotic on the same level as blaming video games, comic books, movies and rock'n roll for society's problems.

and siding it at the same scale of horror as the oil spill... wow people are pure idiots. A Oil spill is a local Armageddon ruining life. Porn is a product of a industry aimed at adults. Fuels mistreatment of women? I'm sure the female professional porn actors and directors have something else to say.

If parents want to blame anyone for sexualized little girls view of their own value, how bout the mainstream media playing on sex every freakin' time, or Barbie and Bratz dolls, High-school musical movies.
Or just take a good look in the mirror, talk to the children, control their Internet use. Put on some filters on stuff you don't want them to find.

Parenting isn't any harder or easier then it was a hundred years ago, it just require taking interest in what the child is doing, and act a bit.

How about the ‘Manhunt’ video games? Those are real examples of murder simulators.

Yeah, the people involved in the porn industry are making money. So I’m sure they won’t say anything bad about it. Some people will do anything for money.

That’s bullsh*t that children’s toys like Barbie and Bratz dolls should be blamed. Porn is part of the problem for women being looked at as objects. Face reality already.

This is like a smoker that defends smoking, just because they are addicted to it.

plastroncafe
06-18-2010, 01:01 PM
That’s bullsh*t that children’s toys like Barbie and Bratz dolls should be blamed. Porn is part of the problem for women being looked at as objects. Face reality already.

This is like a smoker that defends smoking, just because they are addicted to it.

Just so I'm clear here, on your reasoning.
Porn is to blame for the objectification of women.
Children's toys are not.

Care to explain why?
Where's the difference?

Especially considering the toy you're defending is Barbie of all things. The doll of choice for unrealistic body types.
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45543000/gif/_45543032_barbie_comparison466.gif)

Also, just as a hint. Want people to take your opinions seriously?
Stop calling everyone who disagrees with you "addicts" or "out of touch with reality."

Koi
06-18-2010, 01:10 PM
This is like a smoker that defends smoking, just because they are addicted to it.

....Plastroncafe is a chick. So females are to blamed for watching porn and abusing other females?.... My brain just went dead.

Toonami Tom
06-18-2010, 01:23 PM
Just so I'm clear here, on your reasoning.
Porn is to blame for the objectification of women.
Children's toys are not.

Care to explain why?
Where's the difference?

Especially considering the toy you're defending is Barbie of all things. The doll of choice for unrealistic body types.
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45543000/gif/_45543032_barbie_comparison466.gif)

Also, just as a hint. Want people to take your opinions seriously?
Stop calling everyone who disagrees with you "addicts" or "out of touch with reality."

Yes, porn is to blame for the objectification of women.

Barbie dolls and other such toys are for children to play with.

Porn is for adults to perv-out on. There's no love involved, only lust.

Parents should tell their kids that Barbie is only a toy, not a body model to follow.

I have action figures, such as DC Universe Classics and Marvel Legends. They look 'cooler' with the unrealistic body type. I wouldn't prefer a fat, short, out of shape Batman. That doesn't mean I'm going to try to make myself look like Batman. It's fantasy.

You're right, I need to stop with the 'labels'. I shouldn't tell people they are 'addicts'. If I want people to take my opinions seriously, I should tell my opinions to a group of people that think the way I do. Everyone wants others to agree with them. I suppose we would have no issues here if I simply agreed, and told you what you wanted to hear.

So, closing statement, I would have been better off not telling my opinions. Mystery people are never disliked, for there is no reason to dislike them. I said some stuff you didn't like.

plastroncafe
06-18-2010, 01:32 PM
Come down off your cross, man. We need the space.
Sheesh, I can't tell what's worse, the mansplaining or the passive aggression.

Koi
06-18-2010, 01:36 PM
I have action figures, such as DC Universe Classics and Marvel Legends. They look 'cooler' with the unrealistic body type. I wouldn't prefer a fat, short, out of shape Batman. That doesn't mean I'm going to try to make myself look like Batman. It's fantasy.

But little girls will be influenced by what they see around them. You said it yourself, you'd rather have a fit unrealistic batman then a fat short guy. Even though there figures are totally unrealistic, children are small and easily impressionable, they will pick up on those unrealistic figures the toys have and try to attempt to get them as well. You can't say toys don't influence little girls to preteens to have that perfect figure they grew up knowing everyone wanted and was represented through their toys, can you?

I can totally see where you are coming from with your opinion on porn, but it is your opinion and doesn't mean everyone needs to have it. So chill man, can't we all just get along?

Toonami Tom
06-18-2010, 01:46 PM
Come down off your cross, man. We need the space.
Sheesh, I can't tell what's worse, the mansplaining or the passive aggression.

I regret posting in this topic. I really do. I’m going to try to learn from this experience. Because I think a lot of people think I’m an asshole when I tell some of my opinions.


But little girls will be influenced by what they see around them. You said it yourself, you'd rather have a fit unrealistic batman then a fat short guy. Even though there figures are totally unrealistic, children are small and easily impressionable, they will pick up on those unrealistic figures the toys have and try to attempt to get them as well. You can't say toys don't influence little girls to preteens to have that perfect figure they grew up knowing everyone wanted and was represented through their toys, can you?

I can totally see where you are coming from with your opinion on porn, but it is your opinion and doesn't mean everyone needs to have it. So chill man, can't we all just get along?

Yes, I agree with you. You’re right about the dolls and action figures. What you said makes sense to me.

I welcome peace.

Andrew NDB
06-18-2010, 01:52 PM
I regret posting in this topic. I really do. I’m going to try to learn from this experience. Because I think a lot of people think I’m an asshole when I tell some of my opinions.

Why don't you quit while you're ahead, man.

Oh wait...

Toonami Tom
06-18-2010, 01:54 PM
Why don't you quit while you're ahead, man.

Oh wait...

Yeah, that's a good point. :D

*leaves the 'porno' topic forever now.*

GK Punk
06-18-2010, 02:15 PM
You know, I'm also not a fan of porn, but if I ever try shoving my opinions down anyone's throats like that please shoot me.

Candy Kappa
06-18-2010, 04:22 PM
Manhunt is not a murder simulator, when does it ever properly learn someone how to properly kill someone? You push buttons, you don't actually wield the weapons. Nor does it train you to keep your calm while killing someone. You can't train on a video game to become a better killer.

it's like saying I'm becoming a better guitar player playing guitar hero, I'm sure people want to hear me play "Through the Fires and Flames" just because i can play it decently on medium.

Pornographic imagery have existed since mankind created art, there is fertility statues dating from the stone-age, Females in the medieval times was very sexual, the whole freakin Greek mythology are one big orgy. There exists Porn movies dating back to the 20's.

Porn is just a scapegoat like so many other things have been

Sewer Bull
06-18-2010, 04:25 PM
95% of porn is so ridiculously ****** that it makes me either laugh or feel nauseous.

ToTheNines
06-18-2010, 04:33 PM
Pornography fuels the mistreatment of women. There are a lot of guys that look at women as sexual objects. To them it's like having a car, a video game, or a box of cookies.

No way dude. I love porno and I've always been a great boyfriend. Some girl I met the other day even told my friend that I was a "gentleman" :D

愛
06-18-2010, 04:36 PM
People that hate on porn are either religious and have to do it out of guilt, or are women. :)

Toonami Tom
06-18-2010, 04:51 PM
Yeah, I know I said I wasn't coming back to this topic. Well, I'm back. What are you going to do about it? I changed my mind. Oh well.

People that hate on porn are either religious and have to do it out of guilt, or are women. :)

I am religious. That's part of the reason why I don't like porn.

I do believe that a lot of guys that look at porn don't respect women. Nothing is going to change that belief. Even if I didn't have any religious beliefs, I still wouldn't like porn.

GK Punk
06-18-2010, 05:14 PM
Here's the part you seem to not be getting. "Guys that look at porn don't respect women FACT" Is what you are saying. That is not a fact, that is your opinion and nothing more. You do not speak for the entire male gender and it's completely ridiculous to say things like that. I know a lot of men that watch porn, and WORSHIP women.

I'm a male who doesn't watch porn, not because it "Objectifies" women, but because I find it disgusting and girls with implants and lots of makeup don't appeal to me. Would I watch it if I didn't find girls with millions of dollars of plastic surgery to be revolting? Maybe. Do I not respect women? Of course I do. I respect women more than men in a lot of ways. Most of the people I look up to ARE Women.

Koi
06-18-2010, 05:16 PM
People that hate on porn are either religious and have to do it out of guilt, or are women. :)

2/3 works for me :D

Candy Kappa
06-18-2010, 05:17 PM
I watch porn, and respect women.

But i'm just one guy and not a lot of guys... That would just be creepy

Toonami Tom
06-18-2010, 05:29 PM
Here's the part you seem to not be getting. "Guys that look at porn don't respect women FACT" Is what you are saying. That is not a fact, that is your opinion and nothing more. You do not speak for the entire male gender and it's completely ridiculous to say things like that. I know a lot of men that watch porn, and WORSHIP women.

I'm a male who doesn't watch porn, not because it "Objectifies" women, but because I find it disgusting and girls with implants and lots of makeup don't appeal to me. Would I watch it if I didn't find girls with millions of dollars of plastic surgery to be revolting? Maybe. Do I not respect women? Of course I do. I respect women more than men in a lot of ways. Most of the people I look up to ARE Women.

Based on what you have said, I'm glad to know that there are guys that respect women, even though they watch porn.

So some people like porn, some people don't, if someone doesn't like it they shouldn't watch it.

Cure
06-18-2010, 09:31 PM
I don't watch porn and I hate women.

There.

GK Punk
06-19-2010, 01:05 AM
Damn, you told us.

Andrew NDB
06-19-2010, 01:07 AM
What does it mean if I watch porn with women?

GK Punk
06-19-2010, 01:22 AM
It means you hate those women, and those women hate themselves.

Barkworm
06-19-2010, 01:35 AM
So some people like porn, some people don't, if someone doesn't like it they shouldn't watch it.
That's some really philosophic stuff right there.

turkishproverb
06-19-2010, 01:45 AM
Iron man, you are aware statistics show availability of porn doesn't coincide with an increase in sex crimes, aren't you?

Ninjinister
06-19-2010, 01:51 AM
Whatever. Enjoy watching your porn. I don’t care. Just make sure you clean the keyboard before someone else uses it.


Stop jumping to conclusions, dude. Ask anybody that really knows me - I hate porn. I'm just tired of people forcing their views onto others and pretending opinions are facts - not to mention the fact that your posts seem to be very inadequate in the research department.

turkishproverb
06-19-2010, 01:58 AM
...is your new avatar epic yarn kirby?

Ninjinister
06-19-2010, 01:59 AM
...is your new avatar epic yarn kirby?

I fail to see how that relates to the topic, but yes.

turkishproverb
06-19-2010, 02:00 AM
Sorry. It didn't really relate too closely. I was just shocked to see it that version so soon.

Candy Kappa
06-19-2010, 07:00 AM
We had a movie night in the apartment. me, my girlfriend and the other two roomies, a guy and a second girl.

we watched two of the 3 live-action la blue girl movie, does that mean we're bad people?
or does the movies even count as porn. Some of the American Pie ripp-offs are pretty close to be a bit over the top of softcore

plastroncafe
06-19-2010, 08:32 AM
I'm more an appreciator of smut, than a fan of porn, myself.

And even though I am a woman, I was once very disrespectful of women. The idea that women can't oppress women because they are women, is bunk, by the by.

Of course, that was before I was introduced to either smut or porn, so take that as you will.

What gets me about these crusading whackjobs, and they are crusading whackjobs, is that they hide their true intentions behind a banner of OMG! THE CHILDRENZ! They're not really looking out for children, what they're trying to do is control the behavior of other consenting adults.

I've no problem what so ever with groups of likeminded parents finding ways to filter the world for their own children. Or to request that people be considerate to that effect. That...thats kind of what parenting is all about. My problem is when they demand that everyone filter everything for the sake of their child by means of coercion.

Garou
06-19-2010, 08:34 AM
I usually don't spend my time much on discussions like these, but I'm gonna spill my two cents anyway and hope I don't shoot myself in the foot by it.

I, personally, find porn to be nasty and so not for me. I have a boyfriend who watches porn and behaves like a nice guy with respect for both genders and who hasn't tried to force any "weird" stuff on me.
So there, I don't believe porn makes people bad. It's always been there and it helps some people.

Still, I have the theory that early exposure to porn is bad, one of the reasons being based on the same argument used in the article: mirror neurons.
I read an article about a year ago about young Danes attitude towards sex and how it had changed. Young teens actually thought that the raw sex they saw in porn was how it was supposed to be done in real life (believe it or not).

I also believe that society's (in my opinion) growing use of porn-based images and the out-of-proportions toys like Bratz and Barbie, just to name some, is forcing the new ideals of how to look and dress on teens and pre-teens. I know how it affected me as a girl when I was in that age, and I can't help but look at kids today and think "something isn't quite right here".

On a sidenote, my guess is that many parents are also responsible for some of the "damage". I honestly think some parents encourage their kids to be like.... well, sluts.

So there. I think there is something about what is written in that article. Porn is fine, but if it could just be contained somehow to not reach young people and if it could be kept out of the public space, I'd be much calmer.

XERO
06-19-2010, 10:58 AM
Looking through this thread, I've noticed a lot of 'men don't respect women because of porn' opinions, mostly from Iron Man.

Okay, so do we leave a dominatrix out of the discussion?

Toonami Tom
06-19-2010, 12:41 PM
Looking through this thread, I've noticed a lot of 'men don't respect women because of porn' opinions, mostly from Iron Man.

Okay, so do we leave a dominatrix out of the discussion?

I believe the common consensus among many members of this forum is that Iron Man:

*Has weird ideas about some topics.
*Shoves his opinions on other people.
*Is out of touch with reality on some topics.
*Often appears angry.
*Jumps to conclusions.
*Sometimes behaves irrational.
*Needs to think before he types on the forum.
*Needs to lighten up and not worry about what other people do.
*Needs to only worry about stuff that actually effects him.
*Needs to stop caring what people do in privacy.

Okay, I can work on those changes. At least, I think so. I can try.

Ninjinister
06-19-2010, 11:44 PM
I believe the common consensus among many members of this forum is that Iron Man:

*Has weird ideas about some topics.
*Shoves his opinions on other people.
*Is out of touch with reality on some topics.
*Often appears angry.
*Jumps to conclusions.
*Sometimes behaves irrational.
*Needs to think before he types on the forum.
*Needs to lighten up and not worry about what other people do.
*Needs to only worry about stuff that actually effects him.
*Needs to stop caring what people do in privacy.

Okay, I can work on those changes. At least, I think so. I can try.

*Needs to eat a huge f***ing slice of pie! Nom nom nom!

Toonami Tom
06-19-2010, 11:46 PM
*Needs to eat a huge f***ing slice of pie! Nom nom nom!

*Bought a Jonah Hex action figure and ate a Snicker's ice cream bar.

Ninjinister
06-19-2010, 11:57 PM
*Bought a Jonah Hex action figure and ate a Snicker's ice cream bar.

Are there Jonah Hex figures, like, from the movie? Gotta check those out if so...

But really, dude, over all I think you should focus on

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_DKsiFhovI3o/SJPj59BIceI/AAAAAAAACVg/GzqgN_5j5kk/s400/uncle.gif

Ai-ya! Research!

Speaking of porn, one of the primary results when looking for this image was Uncle f***ing Jade. UGH. F*** you, internet!

Toonami Tom
06-20-2010, 09:54 AM
Are there Jonah Hex figures, like, from the movie? Gotta check those out if so...

But really, dude, over all I think you should focus on

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_DKsiFhovI3o/SJPj59BIceI/AAAAAAAACVg/GzqgN_5j5kk/s400/uncle.gif

Ai-ya! Research!

Speaking of porn, one of the primary results when looking for this image was Uncle f***ing Jade. UGH. F*** you, internet!

Yeah, I bought Jonah Hex from the movie. They are NECA brand action figures. I found them at my local Toys R Us (also available online).

Research, for the win! :D Sometimes I guess you just have to do homework on some issues.

I don't know what to say to keep this thread on topic. :-?

Candy Kappa
06-20-2010, 12:01 PM
This is a fairly simple thread with the article.

Children that seek porn before they are sexually matured do it not because the are too early sexual influenced. They do it because it's a nono and that's the whole thrill, looking for things they are not allowed to look at, R rated movies, slasher flicks, porn, adult magazines and swearing. half of the fun with stealing apples or strawberries from the neighbor is the act it's self, or the running from the neighbor not to get caught.

control your child's internet use, put in filters. Most browsers already have a search filter to begin with, making porn harder to "accidentally find". Control the child's Internet hours. Internet isn't some awesome divine power you can't control, just pull the plug and say no when the *cough* brat *cough* --- I mean innocent angel want more time.

Afraid that the child is broken after seeing porn? fret not. Talk to them Children ain't stupid, sex is a natural thing and shouldn't be alienated. When the kid is old enough (somewhere between 11-13 I guess) tell them about sex, do not trust that school will take care of it. It's a parents job NOT school, you never know who at school will teach sex ed, it might be some religious extremist scarring your child for life.

I should know, I got the worst teacher ever and got told extreme religious propaganda containing details as genitalia pieces would rot and fall off, rubbing yourself would cause sickness and sex before marriage could cause infections. I think I went in more detail in an other thread, but I've never been so scared before.

Tell your children that porn is a fantasy, make-believe just like in the movies (no one really dies in a movie). And are not for real, you don't have to go trough every genre of porn, just keep it simple. And let your child watch animal planet or if you don't have the channel let then watch animal programs on TV, let them know that sex is not some evil thing created by man.

Depending on age, around 15-16 i guess. (legal to have sex in Norway is age 16) parents might want to talk about sexual pressure and the overused play on sex in media, learn them that they have every right to say no if there is something they don't want to do or feel uncomfortable with. And teach about how important protection is.

And if a person can't see the difference between porn and reality, that person got some mental issues.

and if you have a partner adventurous enough to test things seen in porn movies, hooray for you. You lucky b*stard :P


this post ended up longer then I had planned :D

Katie
06-20-2010, 01:14 PM
the best thing to do with kids is be open about sex from the beginning. I'm not talking about sitting down with junior and watching your favorite porn flick....but you also shouldn't avoid the subject all together.

My parents did and it was freaking AWFUL to realize how little I knew when I started being attracted to guys and stuff. I never got into a bad situation, but probably could have EASILY ended up in one if I didn't know what was what...y'know?

Personally, I'm going to answer the questions my kids have. I'm pretty comfortable with sex and sexuality so I won't carry on the "awkward parent" problem my own parents had. (for the record, I learned about sex at a church camp...when I was 13. horrible to realize those kids knew stuff and I didn't. I'm still horrified.) I also will not wait until puberty to have "the talk" with them. I mean, Jesus. 10 year olds are getting knocked up these days. you gotta start young.


And also, I gotta put a thought in on the porn vs, women thing...

I've watched porn. I've never considered myself an object or possession.
I've watched porn with boyfriends and even gone to titty bars with them. hilarious.
I personally find porn hilarious. the situations are goofy, so whatever. Strippers are nasty...I never felt intimidated or threatened by them. Internet porn ranges from goofy to down right disgusting.....but whatever.
No boyfriend I've ever had has ever objectified me, and if he did, he'd be out of my life so fast he wouldn't know what hit him.
Other guys who look at me like an object....sad. They couldn't have me anyway.

Candy Kappa
06-20-2010, 01:30 PM
I like the Penn and Teller's bullsh*t episode "War on Porn".

But be careful if you want to see it and are weak of heart, they use every excuse to show nudity onscreen... and this episode, well it's graphic :P

Leogeddon
06-25-2010, 01:04 PM
the best thing to do with kids is be open about sex from the beginning. I'm not talking about sitting down with junior and watching your favorite porn flick....but you also shouldn't avoid the subject all together.

This goes with everything, teaching your kids what you know about a lot of things will result in less problems around the place, this goes for sex+porn, guns, and even when it comes down to things such as which car to buy and why, but one must understand to allow their children freedom to grow and decide what they do with the information they are given. There are things one must supervision their children over but all in all, pretty much EVERYTHING you teach your child will help them have a better understanding. This gives the child more trust in you when it comes to being a role model or a teacher and it also shows your child that you respect them instead of only "rule" them. This also builds friendships in the family as well between parent and child.