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Storm Eagle
07-07-2010, 05:36 PM
http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/07/07/mike-judge-working-on-beavis-and-butt-head-revival/

I thought Mike Judge was through with animation though. Anyway, this is actually one of the few revivals I find I could easily welcome just fine. Also, as sad as this may sound, this is like the only thing that could make me pay attention to MTV again. Of course, that's provided MTV does accept this. If not, then MTV can continue to stay dead.

Eiko
07-07-2010, 05:42 PM
Oh god no i hate that show. I hope it stays dead.

The Stryker
07-07-2010, 05:46 PM
If not, then MTV can continue to stay dead.

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/mike-the-situation.jpg

Say what?

Cure
07-07-2010, 05:51 PM
I'll die of happiness if this happens. I'll drop dead and die.

GK Punk
07-07-2010, 06:27 PM
My life has purpose again.

jaymq
07-07-2010, 06:48 PM
Oh god no i hate that show. I hope it stays dead.

QFT.

Most irritating characters ever.

Ninjinister
07-07-2010, 06:53 PM
Huhhh huhhh huhhh... heh heh...

Turo602
07-07-2010, 07:00 PM
Better happen! Those ugly luaghing idiots better return for Cornholio's sake.

GK Punk
07-07-2010, 07:10 PM
QFT.

Most irritating characters ever.

No one would be forcing you to watch it.

Doc_ock_4mugen
07-07-2010, 07:54 PM
Ahh! I've been wishing for the return of B&B for a while (at least their thoughts regarding current music videos).

Samhain
07-07-2010, 09:18 PM
I can only watch this show if im really in the mood for that kind of humor. But this is good news I guess.

XERO
07-07-2010, 09:32 PM
I'm just waitin' for them to watch a Soulja Boy video. I'm WAITIN'.

ToTheNines
07-07-2010, 10:26 PM
There's really such thing as people who don't like Beavis and Butt-head? I'd heard of them, but didn't think they were real.

Koi
07-07-2010, 10:41 PM
I always figured Beavis and Butthead were like Ed, Edd, and Eddy, but for adults.

I have never watched it. If it does comes back on, I'll give it a shot.

Andrew NDB
07-08-2010, 12:14 AM
B&B wasn't for everyone, but I'd love to see it return. Lampooning the mid-late 90s and early 2000s music videos seems to be a thing that would write itself.

I wonder if they'd make B&B older now, for a twist? Clerks II style... they're 10 years older but still squatting around, not doing sh*t.

Also, I have no idea... but I think I read that B&B died in their last episode. Was this true?

GK Punk
07-08-2010, 12:19 AM
No, they didn't die. The last episode was called "Beavis and Butt-Head are dead" and it was about them calling in "dead" to school. (IE: "They can't go to school today, they're dead")

A grown up B&B might be absolutely hilarious though.

Spitfire
07-08-2010, 12:21 AM
Ala Wiki
Series Finale, Extended episode. Beavis tells the school secretary that he and Butt-head are dead, causing Princpal McVicker to celebrate and Mr Van Driessen to mourn their passing while B&B are at home watching old tv shows from earlier episodes and eating nachos.

I seem to remember them getting shot or something in a park but it's been so long.

Storm Eagle
07-08-2010, 12:58 AM
Ahh! I've been wishing for the return of B&B for a while (at least their thoughts regarding current music videos).

I wonder if they'd even still do music videos since MTV doesn't seem to really play them anymore. I'm sure it would still be funny if they did though.

There's really such thing as people who don't like Beavis and Butt-head? I'd heard of them, but didn't think they were real.

It started when I was 13, and I was in the eighth grade. Though when I was 14 and a high school freshman, my mother caught me watching it and forbade me to watch it. I'd still watch when she wasn't in the same room though.

I remember when they used to have moron-a-thons from time to time, with all these Beavis and Butt-head episodes back to back. What sucked is that every time they'd have them, I'd be out of the house for a long time, or my mother was home with me. So I never got to enjoy those fully without the risk of my mother breathing down my neck.

No, they didn't die. The last episode was called "Beavis and Butt-Head are dead" and it was about them calling in "dead" to school. (IE: "They can't go to school today, they're dead")

A grown up B&B might be absolutely hilarious though.

I don't know about Beavis and Butt-head as adults. The fact that they were teenagers was part of their charm, especially with their antics.

Ala Wiki

I seem to remember them getting shot or something in a park but it's been so long.
You might be thinking of these promos where they have Mike Judge dressed up as a hillbilly and talking like one, talking about killing Beavis and Butt-head. Then they'd show a close-up shot of the two screaming a long "nooooooooooooo!", and then cutting to another shot of them falling backwards on their back with the sound of a gunshot. Those two scenes were actually from two different episodes spliced together with a gunshot sound effect added in to make it look like they'd get killed.

BubblyShell22
07-08-2010, 08:22 AM
Wow. My friend Dennis would love it if they returned. My brother used to watch the show, but I never did. Still, if they did come back, I'd check it out just like I did with Futurama when it came onto Comedy Central.

azrael
07-08-2010, 09:01 AM
I would love this update the animation a little. This would dominate.
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How To Roll A Joint (http://howtorollajoint.net/)

Wildcat
07-09-2010, 05:49 PM
YES! I love Beavis and Butthead. I have their 2 jumbo plush dolls sitting right behind me as a matter of fact.

Them insulting and making fun of modern treads would be awesome. It better happen or Im gonna be ticked off.

Raph's Girl
07-09-2010, 06:04 PM
Somewhere out there Sir Patrick Stewart is jumping for joy at the possible return of his fave show. :lol:

ThirdMarioBro
07-09-2010, 06:41 PM
I might actually have to turn it to MTV for this. Crazy.

Walkabout
07-09-2010, 07:15 PM
Ive got the old stuff on DVD- I may be a moron (ok, I am a moron) but I love Beavis and Butthead and welcome their return in any form.

BubblyShell22
07-10-2010, 08:35 AM
Well, we better hope it'll be on MTV again. If not, we'll just have to watch some other network if they pick it up. I'd say if MTV doesn't pick them up, either put them on Comedy Central or Adult Swim.

Brodie
07-10-2010, 12:44 PM
I'm really curious how they'll handle it in regards to the music video segments, seeing as how MTV doesn't show music videos on a regular basis anymore.

Storm Eagle
07-10-2010, 01:03 PM
I might actually have to turn it to MTV for this. Crazy.
If that's where it goes, yeah.

I've got the old stuff on DVD- I may be a moron (ok, I am a moron) but I love Beavis and Butt-head and welcome their return in any form.

I've actually got all of their DVDs too. The movie, the Time Life DVDs (some episodes are actually edited on those), the Mike Judge Collection sets, and even the History of Beavis and Butt-head DVD that got canned before it even made it to the store shelves.

I'm really curious how they'll handle it in regards to the music video segments, seeing as how MTV doesn't show music videos on a regular basis anymore.
They might not even do music videos anymore. In fact, I remember seeing the show on MTV2 either some time last year or earlier this year, and they showed episodes without even having music videos at the end. For all we know, this new version of Beavis and Butt-head could even offer 30 minute episodes instead of the 10-15 minute shorts from way back.

BubblyShell22
07-11-2010, 08:38 AM
Yeah, they used to show Beavis and Butt-head on MTV2 quite a bit. I wish they would still do that so I can see the eps. Most of the time, I'd forget about them before I could watch them. I just hope MTV does pick it up again. So, is this comeback due to the fans, or does Mike Judge just want to come back to it himself?

XERO
07-11-2010, 12:06 PM
Maybe they'll watch reality shows instead.

Storm Eagle
07-11-2010, 04:52 PM
Yeah, they used to show Beavis and Butt-head on MTV2 quite a bit. I wish they would still do that so I can see the eps. Most of the time, I'd forget about them before I could watch them. I just hope MTV does pick it up again. So, is this comeback due to the fans, or does Mike Judge just want to come back to it himself?

A little bit of both?

ThirdMarioBro
07-14-2010, 05:22 PM
Beavis and Butt-head possibily returning to the airwaves...

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e336/Morrtho/Funny%20Pics/captain-picard-full-of-win-500x381.jpg

XERO
07-14-2010, 11:46 PM
I'm in love with that picture.

BubblyShell22
07-15-2010, 07:52 AM
I like that picture, too. I'm sure Patrick Stewart and many others are jumping for joy at this news.

Saiya-jin
07-15-2010, 10:41 AM
Haha, oh wow. I just hope it lives up to the original...although with Judge still at the helm, I'm sure it will.

Although, if this video (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/3249601/film_forum_with_beavis_and_butthead_extract_clip_h d/) is any indication...he might have to work with his Beavis voice a bit more. It's missing a certain..."umpf".

Raph's Girl
07-15-2010, 05:18 PM
http://www.toonzone.net/news/articles/34359/ny-post-confirms-new-beavis-and-butt-head-episodes-underway


The New York Post is quoting anonymous sources at MTV to confirm the rumored return of Beavis and Butt-head. They write, "The new series would keep Beavis and Butt-head in their perpetual high-school state, but it would be updated so that the pals -- who obsessively watch music videos on a battered TV set -- could lob their snarky comments at more current targets like Lady Gaga."

Storm Eagle
07-15-2010, 05:35 PM
Haha, oh wow. I just hope it lives up to the original...although with Judge still at the helm, I'm sure it will.

Although, if this video (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/3249601/film_forum_with_beavis_and_butthead_extract_clip_h d/) is any indication...he might have to work with his Beavis voice a bit more. It's missing a certain..."umpf".
Eh, it's not so bad. Though I'm just glad that we've got more confirmation.

The new series probably won't capture the magic of the episodes from the 90s, but I'm still up for giving this one a shot. And what do you know? It's going to be on MT-funking-V. A big "thank you" is in order for giving me a reason to acknowledge that they exist.

BubblyShell22
07-16-2010, 10:17 AM
Well, this is good news. They may not be making fun of music videos anymore, but they're still going to make fun of pop culture. I can't wait to see them make fun of Jersey Shore. And MTV does play music videos but only in the morning now. They call it AMTV.

Leo656
07-20-2010, 01:11 AM
So wonderful. Maybe a new wave of popularity could convince Judge to release all the episodes of the show that he didn't put on the Mike Judge Collection DVDs. I was super-pissed that the DVDs weren't the complete episode collection. Too much early stuff was completely left out. Unforgivable.

Maybe now there's hope! :evilgrin:

BubblyShell22
07-20-2010, 08:29 AM
Yes, there could be hope for that. They should release a DVD of Beavis and Butt-head Do America as well.

Leo656
07-21-2010, 12:58 AM
I'm pretty sure there has been, seeing as how I own it. :lol:

Storm Eagle
07-21-2010, 04:48 PM
So wonderful. Maybe a new wave of popularity could convince Judge to release all the episodes of the show that he didn't put on the Mike Judge Collection DVDs. I was super-pissed that the DVDs weren't the complete episode collection. Too much early stuff was completely left out. Unforgivable.

Maybe now there's hope! :evilgrin:

It's a long shot, but that could probably happen. At least this time, with the new episodes we'll be getting, we should definitely have a better chance of getting complete season sets of those. Perhaps they won't have to be so edited either.

I'm pretty sure there has been, seeing as how I own it. :lol:

There have been two versions of it as a matter of fact. The first one didn't have much on it, but the 2006 reissue had a lot of good extras. Even a commentary track. Now it just has to go to Blu-ray.

BubblyShell22
07-22-2010, 04:41 PM
Oh, I didn't know they released that on DVD. Thanks for the info.

Storm Eagle
08-08-2011, 04:42 PM
Ah hey, a preview of a future episode that has been going around for a while.
http://theclicker.today.com/_news/2011/07/22/7142795-heh-heh-heh-beavis-and-butt-head-are-as-stupid-as-ever

MetalWarriorX93
09-04-2011, 03:36 PM
I love B&B I can't wait for their comeback!

~MW

Dirty Blond
10-19-2011, 01:57 PM
Next week! I cannot wait! Finally, something good on MTV.

KROW
10-19-2011, 08:43 PM
Mike Judge wasn't lying when he said a while back that voicing Beavis hurts his throat; it's a bit clearer now and he doesn't scream like he used to. But it's awesome that the show's returning. It's about time MTV put something intelligent on -- and the fact that it's B&B says a lot about that channel's programming over the last decade.

XERO
10-19-2011, 09:17 PM
Man, I almost forgot about this! I'm so there, dude.

BubblyShell22
10-20-2011, 09:57 AM
Yeah, I'm glad they're coming back, too. I was afraid Judge had just given up on them entirely.

XERO
10-20-2011, 06:58 PM
Well, he was busy with King of the Hill for a moment. :P

Jester
10-20-2011, 07:03 PM
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I may have to watch Beavis and Butthead 2.0...:P

Storm Eagle
10-20-2011, 11:49 PM
So like in the beginning, every half hour of Beavis and Butt-head will include two shorts. Next week will start off with "Werewolves of Highland" and "Crying" and these are the short descriptions for each of them:

-The guys try to join the vampire craze at school to score chicks
-Butt-head catches Beavis crying

BubblyShell22
10-22-2011, 05:57 PM
Can't wait for the vampire one. That sounds hilarious.

XERO
10-22-2011, 06:16 PM
Snooki: "I'm a whore, HELLO."
Butt-head: "That's how she answers the phone. Uh huh huh huh..."

Jester
10-22-2011, 06:22 PM
Snooki: "I'm a whore, HELLO."
Butt-head: "That's how she answers the phone. Uh huh huh huh..."

I think the one that got me the most was the "This is like a family tree, if your family was made of whores." line followed by the "If they did this chart long enough, they could find out where herpes began." That one-two punch had me rolling.

XERO
10-22-2011, 06:37 PM
Damn, I can't wait till next week!

Storm Eagle
10-22-2011, 10:54 PM
Can't wait for the vampire one. That sounds hilarious.

I'm more curious about the one where Butt-head catches Beavis crying. You've never seen either one of them cry before, and I just know Butt-head is going to have fun with this.

BubblyShell22
10-24-2011, 09:26 AM
Hmm, sounds interesting.

XERO
10-27-2011, 09:40 PM
Good God, that was hilarious. I missed these guys.

BubblyShell22
10-28-2011, 09:09 AM
I missed it due to wrestling. Ah, well, I can always catch it next week.

TheCanadiandrome
10-28-2011, 02:50 PM
got a replay airing later today, and next week, i'll have the dvr set!

BubblyShell22
10-30-2011, 06:28 PM
Just saw it yesterday afternoon. Man, that was a good ep. I'm glad I was able to watch it because now I've become a fan of these guys. When they were on before I was in elementary school, so now I'm glad I'm older so I can be a fan for once. My brother used to watch them all the time.

Butt-head: Beavis, you were crying.

Beavis: No, I wasn't. Heh Heh. Shut up!

A little *too* Raph
10-31-2011, 09:13 PM
I enjoyed them returning to TV. As soon as I heard butt-head laughing before the intro music I started chuckling like a 12 year old again.

It was a good time.

Hero
11-01-2011, 06:42 AM
Managed to watch this. For some reason I could not connect with it like the show of before. Glad they're back though.

===HERO

BubblyShell22
11-01-2011, 09:01 AM
I can't wait for Thursday's ep. The preview looks awesome.

Butt-head: Uh, did anyone tell you your voice is boring? Can you fix this computer so I can watch p0rn?

KROW
11-02-2011, 09:46 AM
Good God, that was hilarious. I missed these guys.

Same here.

The commentary on the music videos was great. "Hey, Butt-Head, that kid has the same shorts and shoes that you do." Butt-Head looks down to check and says, "That kid is cool."

Storm Eagle
11-02-2011, 04:27 PM
Managed to watch this. For some reason I could not connect with it like the show of before. Glad they're back though.



I think that's how I felt when I watched it. I didn't feel that it captured the magic of how it was back in the 90s, but it was still enjoyable. At least I laughed a lot.

November 10th looks like it'll offer an episode that takes up a whole half hour though, rather than just offering two shorts. According to an online TV schedule, this is all it has down:

Drones: Beavis and Butt-head are virtual pilots of drone planes.

BubblyShell22
11-02-2011, 06:09 PM
Oh, man, that'll be funny. I can't wait for that one.

Storm Eagle
11-04-2011, 06:49 AM
So there will be two episodes next Thursday. "Holy Cornholio" at 10pm and "Drones" at 11pm.

BubblyShell22
11-04-2011, 08:25 AM
Awesome. Can't wait for the Cornholio one as I've wanted to see Beavis go all Cornholio on someone.

Last night's ep was really good. I laughed when the neighbor (who sounds a lot like Hank Hill) beat up the other guy. I also loved the tech support scene. Maybe Donatello should've taken a cue from Beavis and Butt-head.

Butt-head: Did anyone tell you your voice is boring? Can you fix the computer so I can watch p0rn?

Beavis: Do you have any matches? You could light in on fire. Fire. Heh. Heh.

TheCanadiandrome
11-04-2011, 05:20 PM
i've been really enjoyin the return of B&B

BubblyShell22
11-05-2011, 08:06 AM
For me, it's the first time I've ever been a fan since I was so young when they were first on MTV. I love them though.

Storm Eagle
11-05-2011, 04:20 PM
Last night's ep was really good. I laughed when the neighbor (who sounds a lot like Hank Hill) beat up the other guy.


That would be Mr. Anderson, who's also voiced by Mike Judge. :)

BubblyShell22
11-05-2011, 06:52 PM
Ah, yes, I've heard of him from my friend. He was telling me all about Beavis and Butt-head when I was in college. He could even do an awesome impression of Beavis as The Great Cornholio.

Storm Eagle
11-06-2011, 01:36 AM
Speaking of which, anybody besides me NOT really care for Cornholio?

KROW
11-06-2011, 12:47 PM
Speaking of which, anybody besides me NOT really care for Cornholio?

The first few appearances of Beavis' character were hilarious, but then it became a tired gag once the movie was released. And now that Judge lost the raspness in Beavis' voice, it really doesn't hit the same funny bone it used to for me.

Hero
11-06-2011, 03:26 PM
I watched the Daughter's Hand and Tech Support episodes. Funny stuff. I think I am won back over.

TheCanadiandrome
11-06-2011, 04:12 PM
I watched the Daughter's Hand and Tech Support episodes. Funny stuff. I think I am won back over.
totally man

BubblyShell22
11-06-2011, 05:37 PM
Yeah, those were some great eps, especially the tech support one where they were giving that guy a hard time. LOL.

Hero
11-23-2011, 05:11 AM
The Supersize-Me episode is great!

BubblyShell22
11-23-2011, 09:19 AM
Yeah, as well as the Bathroom Break one. Holy Cornholio and Drones were also awesome. Too bad we don't get a new ep tomorrow.

Storm Eagle
11-23-2011, 05:14 PM
Some DVD and Blu-ray news.

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Beavis-Butt-head-Volume-4/16232

BubblyShell22
11-23-2011, 06:38 PM
Wow. That's pretty cool.

ZariusTwo
07-01-2020, 12:54 PM
And they're back again, two seasons on Comedy Central

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/beavis-butt-head-returning-two-new-seasons-spinoffs-at-comedy-central-1301344?fbclid=IwAR2PUdg1kFnUsNS1O7uTJtKU_vSOH3_B6 e9vf_M3fjpIHEQ9051LE5nkhSQ

Coola Yagami
07-01-2020, 02:08 PM
And they're back again, two seasons on Comedy Central

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/beavis-butt-head-returning-two-new-seasons-spinoffs-at-comedy-central-1301344?fbclid=IwAR2PUdg1kFnUsNS1O7uTJtKU_vSOH3_B6 e9vf_M3fjpIHEQ9051LE5nkhSQ

Whoa, say what now? Can these two even exist in 2020?

drgon78
07-01-2020, 02:43 PM
If South Park can still exist then I am sure they can.

Coola Yagami
07-01-2020, 05:03 PM
Looking back, I think they can get away with it cause they've always been portrayed as losers , and never glorified, as in, you're an idiot if you imitate them and not cool.

Let's hope we avoid any wokeness though I wouldn't be surprised if some episodes call them toxic white males. I mean... They kinda are, but keep your SJW buzzwords out of my entertainment, thank you very much.

AquaParade
07-01-2020, 06:29 PM
Looking back, I think they can get away with it cause they've always been portrayed as losers , and never glorified, as in, you're an idiot if you imitate them and not cool.

Let's hope we avoid any wokeness though I wouldn't be surprised if some episodes call them toxic white males. I mean... They kinda are, but keep your SJW buzzwords out of my entertainment, thank you very much.

Lol while that could be exhausting, it does have potential to be funny at the same time. The idea of someone calling them toxic or them being misinterpreted as SJW leaders or what have you.

I've always loved the characters. They somehow manage to remain charming despite how lame they are.

Leo656
07-01-2020, 08:11 PM
We'll see.

On one hand, most of the modern "revivals" of once-popular things have been absolute trash in recent years.

On another hand, despite their name, "Comedy Central" ain't funny. They pay Trevor Noah and Samantha Bee to make extremely wrong-headed points alongside a laugh track so people can think they're actually right, so the chances of this thing being a full-blown "Liberals Taking The Piss Out Of Things That Are 'Problematic'" type of show are absolutely through the roof. A network run by hardcore liberals ain't gonna let Beavis and Butt-Head BE Beavis and Butt-Head. There ain't no way. Odds are, they're bringing it back for the sole purpose of rubbing the audience's face in "Here's why you were an asshole for ever liking this", and I'm not down for that. Yeah, they let Trey and Matt get away with murder BUT if not for South Park Comedy Central wouldn't even still exist, they owe those guys everything and that's the only reason they're allowed to get away with so much. I don't know if they'll be so accommodating to Mike Judge.

This was another one of those things I liked so much that I'd rather it be left alone than brought back and destroyed. The last revival was alright but underwhelming. I was happy about it and I liked it but I was hoping for a lot more; as is, it was only barely memorable. I often forget that it even happened, it really did leave very little impact. Could be it's just a different time.

We'll see how much they let Judge get away with. That's what it'll really come down to and the only thing that gives me hope. Judge wouldn't willingly go along with anything that would screw that brand up. So if he's on board, then I'll give it the benefit of the doubt. But I don't see it as a good fit.

Cartoon Network would have been also a bad fit, but better. Their Futurama revival had more in common with Beavis and Butt-Head than "Futurama", anyway, so I think the people at that network may have had a better idea what to do with the property. But we'll see. I'd love for nothing better than a really awesome B&B revival.

But in 2020? On a super-liberal network like Comedy Central, where half of their shows are people telling you why you need to be offended by everything? That's such a bizarre contrast and so much can go wrong.

One could argue that we need Beavis and Butt-Head more than ever in the current "snowflake" culture... but by the same token, it could get pulled inside of three episodes thanks to the usual Moral Outrage Crusaders, who wield a lot more power now than they did in 1993.

Fingers crossed. Every single episode of the original series would get everyone who made it blackballed from the industry nowadays, which is why we NEED stuff like this. I just hope it's not creatively handcuffed too tightly.

Cure
07-01-2020, 08:42 PM
Samantha Bee is on TBS, not Comedy Central.
Futurama was revived on Comedy Central, not Cartoon Network.

Leo656
07-01-2020, 08:46 PM
I should'a put more than a Google into the Futurama thing, I was 50/50 on that one.

Bee does air on Comedy Central, though, I swear, that's the very first thing that came up when I Googled her, not TBS. So forgive me for that one, I put her name in and "Full Frontal on Comedy Central" was the very first result.

Christ, I swear that when I go from memory everything is fine, but when I fact-check things I get bad intel.

Wildcat
07-01-2020, 11:40 PM
Awesome. Knew theyd eventually return. The last revival was good but was too brief. Very happy theyre getting a proper comeback.

Nobody has to worry about it being toned down, woke or anything. Come on. Everything is supposedly too PC? Well making everything else out to have an agenda of some kind is equally dumb.

I dont watch everything on CC just South Park and Tosh.0. (Though I missed the latest season of Tosh apparently because I didnt know new episodes were airing). I also watch their celebrity roasts. Those things are enough to know CC will let them do pretty much whatever they want.

Leo656
07-02-2020, 01:46 AM
Nobody has to worry about it being toned down, woke or anything. Come on. Everything is supposedly too PC? Well making everything else out to have an agenda of some kind is equally dumb.

Simply following a protocol of "Observe and Report" is never "dumb". If you don't see that everything DOES have a PC/SJW influence crammed into it nowadays then you don't pay any attention at all, and that's as nice as I can be about it.

I watch their roasts, too. They're funny. Awfully "convenient", though, how they give the longest "leash" to the more liberal-minded. Those people, yes, get to say pretty much whatever they want. Otherwise, "You can't say ____, you'll offend people." Again, I just Observe and Report.

Trey and Matt have been speaking openly for years about how awful it is to work for Comedy Central, what with everything being run by hyper-sensitive liberals who try and censor their work, which is why they've been openly courting Netflix and used the last few seasons of South Part to utterly shred the ultra-liberal "PC Culture"; they're giving the finger to the network, because that's who runs the network. "PC Principal", "Strong Woman", "PC Babies", all of it... they were spoofing the American culture at large, sure, absolutely, BUT, if you ask them they'll tell you, they're also making fun of their bosses. They get away with it, as I said, because Comedy Central owes them their very existence as a network; there's little to no promise that anyone else will get the same long leash that they have. AND they still hate working there and wanna leave, because the network keeps yanking on their leash even though by now they should have total creative freedom to do whatever they want, seeing as how they've earned it.

So, again, Observe and Report. The guys who made the network what it is, who created its most successful show ever, can't wait to get out of their contracts because the network treats them poorly and tries to censor them so they don't get angry phone calls. 20+ years of work, and they're still getting jerked around and can't do what they want to do. If they can't, Judge can't either.

We'll see. MIGHT be good and I really hope so. I love Beavis and Butt-Head. But once again, you have a show that's all about offending people in as many ways as possible, with two protagonists who go on and on about "grabbing girls' thingies", in a time when even JOKING about that kinda thing is "assault", on a network where people like Trevor Noah tell you WHY even making those jokes is "assault" and you're a terrible person if you laugh. It's just... well, the term "strange bedfellows" definitely applies.

In doing more research about it, it also feels like CC didn't even want this show, but they caved to pressure on it. They announced a "Daria" spin-off that nobody wanted, first... THEN, way way later on, after a ton of people said "We don't care about that, we'd rather have more Beavis and Butt-Head", they said "Okay, we'll do that, too." But they're still doing the unnecessary Daria spin-off and are mostly talking about B&B as a way to do MORE spin-offs, which makes me question their commitment to... y'know... Beavis and Butt-Head. They had to have their arm twisted to agree to it, and rather than talk about how great the show is gonna be, all they wanna talk about is spin-offs? Kinda getting ahead of ourselves here, ain't we?

I just question the network's commitment and their priorities. This feels like something they're only doing begrudgingly, and once more, the network itself, based on how they operate, simply doesn't feel like a great fit the more you really think about it.

Really, really, really great if I'm wrong. We really need Beavis and Butt-Head Right Now more than probably ever. BUT, as always, when it comes to any trepidation, it's just Observe and Report. I'm right way more often than the weatherman, but that guy gets a million dollars a year to be wrong. The one thing we have in common is, using Past Fact to predict Future Probability. Which is never, ever "dumb". It's merely called "forecasting".

Wildcat
07-02-2020, 03:20 AM
OK I dont follow Matt and Trey themselves so I dont know how they feel about working at CC and the only info on this Ive seen is this announcement. Can you link or point me to what you did read indicating CC did not really want to do it?

As for the idea everything has a PC/SJW angle behind it nowadays...Im sorry I just do not believe that.

Some things do. Im not gonna lie. I definitely see it in some stuff. Sure sometimes it snowballs and becomes a thing but in general I find it harmless enough. I know it can seem silly or a bit forced but if it makes people feel a little better its fine. To me anyway.

It might seem I do not understand the argument but I do. My point is people are doing it to all things. Its just as bad as those taking offense at everything. Its the same difference imo. Its just done from the opposite side.

How hard is it to believe some shows or movies are just that? Another show or movie that people wanted to do or bring back without some elaborate agenda or subliminal message behind it? People need to calm down.

Voltron
07-02-2020, 07:24 AM
What the hell are you talking about?

What have Matt and Trey not been allowed to do on their show? They aren't making fun of CC higher ups. They're making fun of the audience.

The only time I can think of when Comedy Central full-on censored them was on the Muhammad episode, and that was to spare them the death threats and possible terrorist attacks.

Just to drive home the point, they've showed:
1. Episodes deliberately mocking the handicapped.
2. Full blown, hardcore sex scenes.
3. White characters saying the "n" word.
4. Overtly racial stereotypes of Japanese, Chinese, and Middle Eastern people.
5. A frat running train on a cop in drag.
6. Several cancer jokes.
7. An elementary school girl getting breast implants.
8. Full frontal nudity of an elementary school aged boy. Several times.
9. All forms of defecation.
10. A gay man transitioning to a female only to find out that "she" really likes women, becoming a lesbian, then transitioning back to a man. This was the center of an episode where a penis was genetically harvested from a mouse. This was all shown, mind you. Nothing was censored.

I doubt any other network would let that play out. I don't know what you want from Comedy Central, but this doesn't seem like SJWs at the helm.

Remember that companies and corporations have the right to control what they produce. This isn't solely a left-wing, SJW issue either. There are plenty of instances of right wing entities being upset by their employees. Howard Stern had a big falling out with Clear Channel, a company Stern accused of being run by Christian Evangelicals.

This isn't to say there isn't any credibility in the argument that SJW culture has influenced media. It has to some degree. The thing to remember is that these corporations don't care about PC anything beyond making a buck. If tomorrow it was popular to be as offensive and politically incorrect as possible, businesses would follow suit in the hopes of increasing revenue.

Leo656
07-02-2020, 08:22 AM
Brotherrrr I'm definitely not gonna go hunting for every interview I've watched or read where they say that they hate working there and have to fight with The Suits about every little thing and that it's a miracle they get away with anything to the degree that they do. For one thing, I've been up all night trying to figure out how the hell Instagram works, and for another, "It's always 4:20 someplace" so I am really, really not in the mood or at the capacity to even try and play search engine or whatever. But I wouldn't lie to you. They said it and I seen it. Believe it or don't, I really don't care all that much.

Yes, they get away with murder, and ONLY because they built the entire network. Most cable systems didn't carry Comedy Central before South Park, and aside from The Daily Show, South Park is the only reason anyone ever has cared or cares now about the channel. They have clout. The network owes them. But they still have to fight to put out what they do. They get their way, yes. Because they have clout, and ONLY for that reason. The Guys Upstairs still try and screw with them constantly for "going too far". I didn't make it up.

It's entirely possible that Mike Judge has "clout" as well, but I doubt he has as much as Trey and Matt do. If THEY get a hard time from the network - and they do, whether you take what I'm saying at face value or not - then an "outsider" will also get a hard time from the network if they're also pushing similar content. That only stands to reason. It's just plain common sense.

I don't see why any of this - which is merely speculative forecasting, by the way - is so hard to figure out. To me, it's just a little strange that a network, whose second most popular show is all about telling people what they should and shouldn't be offended and outraged by, would also bring on a show featuring two characters who are borderline sexual predators with much of their humor coming from that premise. Their one show has a guy saying, all the time, "People who joke about being sexual predators ARE sexual predators, joking about sexual assault IS sexual assault, and if you laugh at it then you're a terrible person"... and meanwhile, you have a cartoon show on the same channel where the two main characters spend most of their time trying to molest women and doing very little else. You don't see how that might make this network, specifically, look kind of two-faced, to some people at home who are easily outraged? You don't see how some of that network's audience might end up complaining about that, or how the network in turn might be willing to abandon the show at the first angry phone calls that come in? People who watch The Daily Show have spent years being conditioned that basically every single thing that Beavis and Butt-Head joke about are things you should be put in jail just for even saying out loud. Sure, South Park falls under that as well, but again... South Park BUILT the network, otherwise they wouldn't have a long leash at all. Can B&B get the same "hands-off" treatment? Boy, I sure hope so!

It just makes me question how strongly they might be willing to really get behind it. That's all. Trey and Matt built the network, they're untouchable, but even they have to fight to do the show their way most of the time. Mike Judge isn't Trey and Matt, he didn't build the network, and they don't owe him anything. This is basically Them doing Him a favor, NOT the other way around. So while I'd love it and would HOPE that they leave him alone to do his thing, I don't know if they will. But I do sincerely hope so.

I'm not saying "This is what WILL happen", I'm saying "This is what very well CAN happen given the climate at that specific network and the values of the people who run it." It's a liberal-slanted network, they're not shy about it being a liberal-slanted network, in fact they openly promote themselves that way, and liberals have been trying to get Beavis and Butt-Head taken off the air for as long as it's been in existence. Comedy Central is generally nothing more than MSNBC with a laugh track once you leave out South Park. So please forgive me for not thinking they're just going to automatically do a 180 now and embrace something like Beavis and Butt-Head without trying to change it into something they'd prefer that it be. I HAVE to ask these questions. They very well might try and f*ck with it. We'll just have to wait and see and hope that they don't.

Could be great! I hope so. But at the time of peak Outrage Culture, on a network that openly and loudly advocates throwing people in jail or getting their careers taken away for bad jokes or Twitter misfires? Hmm. It's really not so very simple.

We. Shall. See.

The ONE big thing that gives me a ton of hope, is that Mike has always said he'd never bring it back unless it could still be great and he could still do it His Way. He's never wavered from his principles on anything, on any project he's ever done. And he doesn't just do stuff for a paycheck. So if he's willing to bring it back, and on that channel, then that means HE has faith in it. So good. Very, very good. I just hope that faith is rewarded, that's all. I hope they do well, and I hope that the network doesn't either cancel it or screw with it the first time they get phone calls about it.

Storm Eagle
07-02-2020, 08:27 AM
I'll check these new ones out, even though I know Beavis' voice will sound a little off like in the last version.

Leo656
07-02-2020, 08:31 AM
Did it? I didn't notice. Guess I'm due for a re-watch!

I liked the "revival" season but it felt... different. I can't even really describe it, it just... wasn't entirely the same. Not that it ever could be, but... I don't know. The episodes themselves weren't even as memorable. They were GOOD, don't get me wrong, just... they didn't stick with you the same way as some of the original stuff did.

But hey, it's long overdue for me to dust 'em off and fire 'em up. Maybe I'll refresh my memory a bit. :)

drgon78
07-02-2020, 11:54 AM
I have always liked the movie more then the TV series.

AquaParade
07-02-2020, 12:06 PM
I have always liked the movie more then the TV series.

The movie is pretty funny. "Uh...I think I just figured something out....this sucks."

ZariusTwo
07-02-2020, 01:56 PM
The movie is pretty funny. "Uh...I think I just figured something out....this sucks."

Give them a cavity search, don't stop 'till you reach the back of his teeth!

AquaParade
07-02-2020, 02:04 PM
Give them a cavity search, don't stop 'till you reach the back of his teeth!

Claaassic.

Coola Yagami
07-02-2020, 02:17 PM
I mean, I have to kinda agree there, having the same channel that says just joking about boobs makes you a sexual predator have a cartoon where the main characters comment on how a girl's boobs made them go boi-oi-oi-oi-oi-oing is very very odd. Almost like putting B&B on the Disney Channel right after Snow White.

South Park is offensive as it gets but at the very least the main characters are kids and they're still at the age where they don't care about getting laid or feeling girls up, where that is basically B&B's full motivation, other than blowing **** up, especially now where anything remotely sexual seems to be a bigger hot button issue than ever before.

To be fair though, a metoo type episode with those two would be kinda funny. I kinda wonder how those two would handle it, especially since the concept would go over their heads. Would they know how to use social media? Imagine those two being cancelled but completely ignoring it because they either don't get the concept or can't even read Twitter to see that.

"It says we're.... c.... c..... can-sell... cancel? Hey Beavis, it says you're cancelled, huh-huh huh-huh huh-huh"
"that's stupid. I don't have a TV show. heh-heh heh-heh heh-heh heh-heh".

I can already see the episode ending with whoever accused them being cancelled over something else.
"huh-huh huh-huh, she's cancelled"
"yeah! cancelled! cancelled! heh-heh heh-heh! cancel her tv show!"


Fuuuck, does Mike Judge need a co-writer?

Edit- You know, I just realized, unless those two get a slight IQ upgrade, 99% of social media that isn't just memes are gonna go completely over their head, those two can barely read. Anything involving wordplay, and well...... words... will completely go over their head. Like I can't even imagine being able to use Twitter or Facebook or whatever to agree/disagree with a post if I couldn't read. Beavis and Butthead can't use social media! LMAO Those two are immune!

Leo656
07-02-2020, 07:08 PM
I mean, it'll PROBABLY be fine and I hope it is. A lot of times I just have to get my gut reaction out of the way first, and my gut reaction was "Huh... that's a weird fit."

But it'll hopefully be alright.

And that movie is still so, so good. What a bangin' soundtrack, too.

TigerClaw
07-02-2020, 07:14 PM
The show was very satirical. I could totally see some episodes where Beavis and Butt-Head are completely oblivious that the world has changed. They go to some convenient store. and then everyone around them starts freaking out because they aren't wearing a mask.

Leo656
07-02-2020, 07:27 PM
Good lord, I am not looking forward to the inevitable Coronavirus "Humor" that's gonna be all over the place with the new Fall TV shows. That's gonna be unbearable.

I know South Park is obviously gonna go there but I'd love it if nobody else did. Once this situation is over with I don't EVER wanna think about it again. I don't even wanna be reminded that 2020 was a thing. I just wanna lock it in a box and pretend it never happened.

So yeah, I don't want any jokes about masks or COVI-19 or "social distancing". I really, really want all fictional TV shows and movies going forward to just treat this thing like a goddamn bad dream. It's not worth making jokes about.

TigerClaw
07-02-2020, 07:32 PM
These shows are gonna address the Coronvirus no matter what. Its the world we live in. We cannot pretend that it didn't happen.

Leo656
07-02-2020, 07:45 PM
Oh, yeah, 10 and 20 years from now I'm gonna really wanna come home from a hard day at work, turn on the TV to try and relax, and then have reruns from 2020 reminding me about ALL THIS SH*T. :roll:

People are always saying they only want TV and movies to be "escapism". This is one of the rare times where I highly agree. If I wanted This Sh*t rubbed in my face 24/7 I'd watch MSNBC. Trying NOT to get depressed and kill myself, thanks. Let the news handle sh*t like this. Even Family Guy doesn't make the 1980s AIDS crisis a satirical plot point, because people don't wanna remember that sh*t. And with good goddamn reason.

Coola Yagami
07-02-2020, 07:57 PM
Oh, yeah, 10 and 20 years from now I'm gonna really wanna come home from a hard day at work, turn on the TV to try and relax, and then have reruns from 2020 reminding me about ALL THIS SH*T. :roll:
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Wouldn't that make you happy knowing that you were able to overcome that period since at the time you'd be coming from a hard day at work?

We all have rough spots, it might not be fun remembering all the details, but you can look fondly on how you overcame and got past them.

TigerClaw
07-02-2020, 08:38 PM
This show always provided social commentary and satire on the world we live in. So I wouldn't be surprise if this new show pokes fun at the absurdity of people losing the **** for not wearing a mask in a store.

Leo656
07-02-2020, 08:42 PM
Wouldn't that make you happy knowing that you were able to overcome that period since at the time you'd be coming from a hard day at work?

We all have rough spots, it might not be fun remembering all the details, but you can look fondly on how you overcame and got past them.

Good point. If I have a job at all by that point it'll be a huuuuuuge win. :lol:

Coola Yagami
07-02-2020, 08:48 PM
Good point. If I have a job at all by that point it'll be a huuuuuuge win. :lol:

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Voltron
07-03-2020, 03:31 AM
Brotherrrr I'm definitely not gonna go hunting for every interview I've watched or read where they say that they hate working there and have to fight with The Suits about every little thing and that it's a miracle they get away with anything to the degree that they do.


So I found this article (https://ncac.org/news/blog/south-parks-matt-stone-opens-up-about-censorship) where Matt and Trey talk about censorship. They expound on different issues, but one part that stuck out to me was this:

The South Park TV show has continuously pushed at the boundaries of what is acceptable on cable television and has even faced some censorship of its own. When asked about how the permissiveness of the culture has changed in the 17 years they have been on the air, Stone said:

It?s crazily more permissive than when we started. The standards were much, much higher when we started out.

You go back and watch the first season of South Park and it?s pretty slow and not the best written and junky-looking, but it would almost play on Nickelodeon at this point.

There are dirty words but, conceptually, we couldn?t have covered the material that we do now. And yet, in the first year, that?s when we were getting all the calls from the network and we had to fight for it, and that?s when we were on the cover of magazines that said: ?Don?t let your children watch?.

It?s hilarious, people would probably show it to younger kids now. I think things have loosened up and, generally, I think that?s pretty good. It?s a lot of the reason why television has become so dominant right now.


According to them, the Suits aren't that big of an issue.

Coola Yagami
07-03-2020, 01:43 PM
So I found this article (https://ncac.org/news/blog/south-parks-matt-stone-opens-up-about-censorship) where Matt and Trey talk about censorship. They expound on different issues, but one part that stuck out to me was this:



According to them, the Suits aren't that big of an issue.

Those are the guys behind South Park though, not Mike Judge, he might not get the same courtesy.

Leo656
07-03-2020, 08:14 PM
Yeah, that's been my primary point and it keeps getting buried in the minutiae. :ohwell:

Like at my former job, I could tell my boss "No, I'm gonna do what I know is right" because I'd been there for years. A new guy would get tossed on his ass even if he'd been a superstar elsewhere. That's just how things work. You only get that longer leash over time, and being a big shot at one job doesn't mean your new boss will likewise revere you.

I'unno, we'll see. Like I said, many of these things I say about anything are my gut reaction mixed with observation, which leads to a tentative prediction. It's not like I have money on it. A lot of the times I'm just playing Devil's Advocate and what I predict COULD happen isn't necessarily what I think should or will happen. But if nobody else is gonna point stuff out as a hypothetical, then someone still ought to.

But I feel like people misread me on that, a lot. Me saying "This very well might happen, Because _____" is not me saying I want or even necessarily expect it to. But I'm not here to say the exact same things everyone else says, it's to remind people that there's other possibilities and other points of view in play, even if it's not necessarily MY "take".

I probably would'a made a great lawyer. :lol: But I hate wearing a suit.

Reinako666
07-03-2020, 10:14 PM
Will it air on MTV or some other Network?

Coola Yagami
07-04-2020, 12:06 AM
Will it air on MTV or some other Network?

Um... Comedy Central?

Wildcat
07-04-2020, 12:25 AM
But really nothing suggests Mike Judge would have far less leeway.

1. B&Bs tone and humor is nothing compared to South Park.

2. They already went through the backlash thing in the 90s that caused later airings and warnings.

3. They are basically just as old as South Park. Neither one needs anymore credibility. Starting out on different channels does not matter.

Like nobody is mad about Mortal Kombat anymore. Well some probably are but its not an issue anymore. Beavis and Butthead will be fine on CC.

Coola Yagami
07-04-2020, 01:03 AM
But really nothing suggests Mike Judge would have far less leeway.

1. B&Bs tone and humor is nothing compared to South Park.

2. They already went through the backlash thing in the 90s that caused later airings and warnings.

3. They are basically just as old as South Park. Neither one needs anymore credibility. Starting out on different channels does not matter.

Like nobody is mad about Mortal Kombat anymore. Well some probably are but its not an issue anymore. Beavis and Butthead will be fine on CC.

Difference is, South Park never ended and it's still an ongoing show. Had B&B kept on going non-stop there would be less doubt but since this is a 'revival' or technically a 'new show's there's always the risk of it being a watered down version.

Had South Park actually gone away for a few years there would have been a risk of a tamer version whenever it made a comeback.

Reinako666
07-04-2020, 01:24 AM
Um... Comedy Central?

I was just asking.

Wildcat
07-04-2020, 01:46 AM
I still do not see it being toned down. Beavis and Butthead was not even that hardcore to begin with except for the early episodes that got the brunt of the criticism.

Once it got going it really was not that rough. It became more like early Family Guy or something. Aimed at older audiences but nothing deeply offensive.

It was more about them bumbling through situations, their stupidity messing stuff up and trying to get girls attention.

Coola Yagami
07-04-2020, 10:57 AM
I was just asking.

Sorry, I thought you were being silly.

But yeah, Comedy Central is most likely paying extra to make sure they're the only ones that can air it.

That brings up a good point. How come MTV isn't doing anything? I know MTV isn't what it was but it feels weird seeing B&B have new episodes somewhere else.

But idk, like Leo said, it sounds like they care more about these weird spin-off shows that they can't do unless they bring B&B back. I guess it's like someone wanting to make a Batgirl show who only really like Batgirl and hates Batman, but being forced to 'make a Batman show first, then get your Batgirl spin-off'. I re-read that article and it does have that tone of 'we're only bringing B&B back because we absolutely have to so we can do what we want' vibe.

Don't be surprised if B&B lasts a season and the spin-offs go on for longer.

Leo656
07-04-2020, 02:45 PM
That brings up a good point. How come MTV isn't doing anything? I know MTV isn't what it was but it feels weird seeing B&B have new episodes somewhere else.


Don't be surprised if B&B lasts a season and the spin-offs go on for longer.

Cuz MTV suuuuuuuuucks. :lol: It does feel weird, though, but eh.

Even if B&B gets its full two seasons I can promise you the Daria spin-off will go longer because it has a female protagonist. Ratings and public response won't be a factor, it's just The Way Things Are Now. Even if the Daria spin-off isn't popular it'll run for about four seasons or so, I predict. I think Beavis and Butt-Head will get its full two seasons, honestly, but it won't get renewed I don't think. Just a gut prediction.

Wildcat
07-05-2020, 12:16 AM
It sounds like you guys are just trying to convince yourselves something is up. There really is nothing that implies they only agreed to Beavis and Butthead for the spinoffs.

Its been at least 10 years between both B&B revivals. It was going to return eventually. Somewhere. I think Mike Judge mentioned MTV did NOT want to continue it in 2011. So they mean nothing apparently.

And saying they would keep the Daria spinoffs and not B&B regardless of ratings makes no sense. People keep saying studios only care about money. Well that totally contradicts that kind of prediction.

Nobody is going to cancel something just for the sake of a female character if its actually preforming well or better than the other. If it does matterthat much theyll probably keep both.

This is just choosing to being upset over PC/Woke stuff in advance by thinking up conspiracy theories.

ZariusTwo
07-05-2020, 12:49 AM
Even if B&B gets its full two seasons I can promise you the Daria spin-off will go longer because it has a female protagonist

I doubt that mate, most of the female-led stuff is very short-lived in Hollywood, you need only look at their box office poison to see that, none of them guarantee franchise.

Reinako666
07-05-2020, 03:50 AM
Cuz MTV suuuuuuuuucks. :lol:

MTV sucked long after they decided to air lots of Teen Mom and less Music.

drgon78
07-05-2020, 05:27 AM
MTV has sucked for a long, long time.

Leo656
07-05-2020, 06:12 PM
I think 1996 was the last year they were even watchable. Once TRL got established instead of the regular "Top 20 countdown" that was the beginning of the end.

They always had a mix of videos and other stuff going back to the beginning, but once they flipped their entire programming demographic to being aimed solely at teenage girls, that was it. Nobody on the planet has worse taste than teenage girls. That whole channel was unwatchable by 1998. Real pity, from like 1991 through 1995 or so I used to watch it every day.

Voltron
07-06-2020, 04:08 AM
MTV killed the video star. :cry:

Reinako666
07-07-2020, 06:14 AM
I think 1996 was the last year they were even watchable.

I would agree with that.

But I think they dropped even further down after they gotten rid of the "Music Television" display in the MTV logo.

Egon1982
07-10-2020, 01:25 PM
I think 1996 was the last year they were even watchable. Once TRL got established instead of the regular "Top 20 countdown" that was the beginning of the end.

They always had a mix of videos and other stuff going back to the beginning, but once they flipped their entire programming demographic to being aimed solely at teenage girls, that was it. Nobody on the planet has worse taste than teenage girls. That whole channel was unwatchable by 1998. Real pity, from like 1991 through 1995 or so I used to watch it every day.

97 was when Daria aired and when Beavis and Butthead ended! i did enjoyed BAB since i was 11 when it debuted and Daria when it debuted when i was turning 15 and let's not forget cool adult cartoons MTV had like Aeon Flux, The Head, Liquid TV, Celebrity Deathmatch and more.