On a scale of 1-10, what is your level of confidence with Nick with the TMNT IP?

[Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle]

Since we are still waiting as to what Nick will do with the property thus far, (I'm not counting the Turtles Forever DVD release, which was far from perfect anyway.) what is your confidence level right now with how you believe they will handled owning and managing this IP? With 1 being the the lowest amount of confidence (0 being none what so ever)and 10 being the highest, what do you think? Vote and discuss what you think right now!

[Luzmagica]

I want to believe!!.... So Im going to be today very optimistic and I had vote a Nice 8 Points!!!! :D:D:D

[Kendamu]

I threw down a 7. In terms of the most popular incarnation of the Turtles and all the potential merch that can come from a new show following that formula, TMNT is in good hands with Nick. From the perspective of pleasing OT fans, I'd give them a 10 on treating the Turtles well.

However, as a fan of the first movie and the comics as well as the OT, I had to drop my score a bit because I don't think they'll have much to give comic fans. If they have anything cool coming in that regard, I'll be very surprised. I'll be even more surprised if it's anything good.

That seems like a half-and-half sort of thing, but I didn't want to give Nick a score of 5. That seems too low. So I went with a 7. I think it'll be alright, but not too great. Hopefully I'm proven wrong and I'm just underestimating how great things will turn out.

[Powder]

I went for a 6. I don't know why, but I feel like really good things are going to come out of this.

[Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle]

I'm a 5. Hopeful but like I said previously, the Turtles Forever DVD release was subpar since they could of released the director's cut and they cut out the live action cameo's of the creators. Still, I need to wait to see what they actually do themselves that's original to know for sure if the property is in the right hands.

[Mutated Turtle]

0. Viacom is retarded. I think they will RUIN tmnt,every nick show sucks, so I think this will suck too, but it's going to suck alot more then their other shows, IMO. R.I.P interesting storylines-thought put in-and it's not for money tmnt.

[Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle]

I look forward to seeing how this poll will be voted on over the next few days as more TMNT fans vote and comment. So far, it's totally mixed. Some think they will **** it all up, others say they will wait and see, while a few say it will be awesome. The majority is not going one side of the other side so far. Interesting.

[Fugitoid Jones]

I too said 7. I really don't belive they will ruin the TMNT, and I think that what they will do will be entertaining to an extent, but I have a feeling that it won't be near the quality of the OT and 2K3 shows or the first movie.

[Buffy]

I voted 5. It could be a hit or miss, I prefer to wait and see. I'm not into the Nick shows, but Avatar: the last airbender is one of my fave shows. If the new show is half as good as that, I'll be a happy camper. :)

[Powder]

0. Viacom is retarded. I think they will RUIN tmnt,every nick show sucks, so I think this will suck too, but it's going to suck alot more then their other shows, IMO. R.I.P interesting storylines-thought put in-and it's not for money tmnt.

Considering you said you didn't like the cartoons, films, or comics, I think you need not worry about any of that. Afterall, you're not a fan.

[Spitfire]

They're trying to make money and entertain kids not make me happy so I voted 5. If they do the above I won't be happy, if they surprise me and actually care about the pre-established fan base I'll be both happy. It's time a new generation of kids gets to enjoy Turtles.

I know 2K3 was supposed to be that but this is a real fresh start where there's no grandpa holding them back from doing what they think kids want to see. Reading Laird's script feedback made me realize that had he not been there to slap the writers on the wrist a lot of 2K3 would have been really silly. This is probably why the tone seemed so awkward. They tried to please him and please the kids too.

Anyways the new movie is where my hopes lie. They can do a more mature movie and still have a full blown kiddie toon. Obviously Transformers comes to mind, not that I can call that mature with a straight look on my face but you get my point. The movie can be for the older crowd as well as kids and the series can be just for kids. I ask they respect the characters and the franchise as a whole but they don't really have to and as of right now they owe me nothing.

[sdp]

For those who have doubts, Nick did not buy the turtles to kiddify them, they bought them to have action shows on their network. Nick isn't the kid/comedy cartoons from the 90s, they want to get into action shows, you can tell that by looking at their line up of Power Rangers, Dragon Ball, Voltron etc. They've also produced one of the best action shows (Avatar) ever so they are up to it.

For the new show my level of confidence is very high, I think Nick will really do a great job with it. However my level of confidence with Nick/Viacom having the turtles franchise is 50/50, I really don't know what they'll do with the turtles after this revival finishes its run, they have many other hugely iconic franchises they just don't use at all.. So maybe after the new show finishes its run after 6 years or so its the end of the turtles for a considerably long amount of time.

And for those who want a more serious take on the turtles, remember Viacom owns the turtles, they took Ren & Stimpy from Nick and made a show for MTV for an adult audience when they saw thats what people wanted, sure that show was terrible and failed but it shows that Viacom was ok with taking one of its cartoons from their kid network and give it a shot at an older audience. In fact it might be even more likely for the TMNT to have a more adult take on it, Mirage had the franchise for 25 years and was never able to do "adult" turtles outside of comics and even if they kept the franchise it likely wasn't going to happen, they were to small to take the risk but Viacom isn't.

[Koi]

9! I have said it before, I am quite confident in it. I have always loved Nick, and I have always loved the shows on it.

Plus, they might throw tmnt related things in there other shows. How cool would that be?

[Buslady]

Absolutely no confidence at all. Nick usually represents kiddie crap, and when I read way back they wanted to make it more like the old series...HELL NO.

I'm so disenchanted with it all....


I still love me Raphie though...I dont want to see how bad Nick is going to show him.

re: Power Rangers, Dragon Ball, Voltron etc.

so they want to line it up with crappy kiddie action shows...what made 2K3 so good they used a lot of comic book storylines...*IF* Nick follows this, I MAY check it out...

[Gyt Kaliba]

I have my concerns obviously, especially with how the DVDs of said titles are going to be handled from now on, but for the most part I'm trying to remain optomistic. I mean, Nick is obviously planning some big things. TMNT, Power Rangers, Voltron, DBZ Kai, (possibly) Digimon - I think they're up to the task of maybe, just maybe, picking up where CN has failed us recently (barring Ben 10) for action programming.

So with all of that in mind, I'll give it a 7. Normally I'd give a 6, but my optomism makes me want to give them one higher.


re: Power Rangers, Dragon Ball, Voltron etc.

so they want to line it up with crappy kiddie action shows...what made 2K3 so good they used a lot of comic book storylines...*IF* Nick follows this, I MAY check it out...

Yes, crappy kiddie action show, that's why Kai, clipshow of Z that it is, is currently like the highest rated show on Nicktoons... :P

[Scandia]

I have some concerns, but I do have hope as well. So I gave it a 5.

[Mutated Turtle]

.........................

[Venom]

I voted an 8 because I'm cautiously optimistic regarding the franchise's future. I see a lot of positives on the horizon, but part of me wonders how Nick will execute the revival. So far I'm pleased with the first official voice, so that helped influence my high vote.

[Kendamu]

I think some of us, as fans, were too spoiled by Mirage and think ourselves much more important than we really are in this upcoming era of TMNT.

[ooglafina]

Seems like they paid too much money to ruin it.

[Whitewolf89]

Seems like they paid too much money to ruin it.
Very good point there, and you're right.

That's pretty much MY opinion, too, and why I gave them a "7". I have faith in them to NOT screw it up, but at the SAME time, I'm choosing to err on the side of caution.

Hey, Rob Paulsen voicing Donatello in the new Toon gives us SOME hope for optimism, doesn't it? (It does me, anyway.)

[CyberCubed]

Anyone who thinks Nick paid $60 million for the TMNT franchise just to treat it poorly is clearly some kind of an idiot.

From the sounds of things they want the new movie to be "huge" and a box-office hit, which is only a good thing.

The quality of the cartoon depends, but Nick is getting into action cartoons so something similar to the Archie series might be good.

[Whitewolf89]

Anyone who thinks Nick paid $60 million for the TMNT franchise just to treat it poorly is clearly some kind of an idiot.
VERY well put, hun, and I TOTALLY agree with you on every word!

From the sounds of things they want the new movie to be "huge" and a box-office hit, which is only a good thing.
Also good news, but, speaking just for myself, the notion that they want to go back and time and make a LIVE-ACTION movie with people in those heavy Turtle costumes has me a bit iffy on things. Now, IF they did it as a hybrid (ala Transformers; etc.), THAT would be okay. The other, like in the original three 90's movies...not so much.

The quality of the cartoon depends, but Nick is getting into action cartoons so something similar to the Archie series might be good.
Let's hope that the quality is good, but the other is good news, too.

If they turn it into a cross between Spongebob Squarepants and Danny Phantom, though, I'll be severely, SEVERELY P.O.ed.

[Koi]

If they turn it into a cross between Spongebob Squarepants and Danny Phantom, though, I'll be severely, SEVERELY P.O.ed.

Hey, Danny Phantom was fun and enjoyable to watch. I love that gosh darn box ghost!

I think I said this before somewhere... stop comparing. It is irritating, TMNT will take on its own image in Nick. It won't be cooperating, and operating with all the other cartoons. It will be a different show, it won't be teenage mutant ninja rugrats, or sponges. It will just be TMNT but on a different channel, woopdeedoo.

People should let these discussions go down the toilet till we actually get something to have an opinion on.

[shuriken]

5. My expectations are pretty low. I think there will be things I like, and things I won't. Not expecting greatness, just something decent. Anything better is a pleasant surprise.

[CyberCubed]

Does anyone remember when 4kids got TMNT, people acted like it would be a kiddie show?

4kids was known for destroying anime and removing all violence/kiddiefying it, and look how the series turned out.

[Gyt Kaliba]

4kids was known for destroying anime and removing all violence/kiddiefying it, and look how the series turned out.

EXACTLY. If I'd been around for the announcement that they were handling a new Turtles show, I would have been freaking at the time and not in a good way, and yet it turned out to be awesome. Hell, those butchers of anime gave us TURTLES FOREVER for crying out loud. It's almost enough for me to forgive them for One Piece.

...Almost.

[Kendamu]

-- tl;dr --
Kiddie stuff and casual entertainment for the masses: 10+
Stuff for the hardcore oldschool comic-loving fanbase: 0

-- Long version --

To further clarify my 7, I'm thinking along these lines:

As an action cartoon for children, I have a lot of faith in Nick. Based solely on this, I'd give them a 10.

Based solely on shirts and other merchandise whether it be for their new stuff or if it's part of some "retro line," I'd also give them a 10. I've seen what Turtles shirts and such look like now and I've seen the same for other Nick properties and they're all great.

Going off of video games and toys, another 10. Well, maybe an 8. The toys I've seen for other Nick properties look great. Licensed video games are always something to be iffy on until you actually play them, though.

When it comes to the new movie, I'm split on the issue. From the standpoint of generating tons of cash and making something that the masses will like, I have a lot of faith in Paramount to give us something that will do that. For me, it'll at least be a decent popcorn flick but I don't expect anything that the extremely tiny, super oldschool, hardcore fans who have stuck around for 15 years to really get into. Especially if you're mostly a fan of the comics. So, more like a 5 or a 6.

Speaking of the comics, that's where things get a super low rating. I have no faith in Nick to give TMNT to anyone who can do comics nor do I expect them to even try to get comics out there in the first place. Also, I don't expect to see a Mirage-published TMNT comic ever again.I'd love to be presently surprised, but I'm not expecting anything at all. This is where my fat 0 comes in.

If I had averaged it out from the beginning, that'd be about a 6.9. I didn't think it this far out initially and I just give it a 7 based on gut feelings. Either way, I'm gonig to enjoy what happens. Part of me is going to miss the old days where material was coming out for various audiences. The other part of me is likely going to love what's gonig to happen pretty soon.

[sdp]

If the show is half as good as Nickelodeon's Avatar, it'll be the best TMNT cartoon yet. Seriously, people need to quit generalizing Nick as "kiddy", sure its a kids channel but its actually been aiming mostly at girls/tweens in the past decade and this new decade to boys/action shows, the rugrats/slime decade was the 90s and thats what people keep thinking the new turtles show is going to be like. We haven't even seen anything and people already are blowing it off.

I'm going to go ahead and make a (safe)prediction..once we get character designs the majority of the forum are going to hate it, people will dismiss the show after the first few previews before the show airs and say it sucks and no matter how good the first episode will be it will be hated by most on this forum. The show will be good but most here will not like it, mostly since everyone here has a very specific view of what the turtles are for them, heck the division between OTrocks/sucks-2k3rocks/sucks-Miragerocks/sucks is already pretty big here.

[Kendamu]

When I say "kiddies" I mean "for kids." Avatar, DBZ Kai, etc. are great, but they're still kid shows and that's what I'm getting at. It's not anything bad, but I have to be very clear in what I mean due to the fact that there are so many types of TMNT fans. However, I do agree with your safe prediction.

[Cipher]

I have every confidence that they'll be able to spin a well-done children's show/franchise out of it. We'll probably get another decent to good action cartoon, which I could always go for, even if it does skew young.

For my own part, all they have to do to satisfy me is hand off reprint rights to another comic publisher so we get the goddamn trades Mirage never gave us. And haven't we already heard rumblings that they'd be kind-of sort-of maybe willing to do that? So, I'll consider myself square with the Nick IP if they can get that done. If I don't dig the new material, I can at least have the series I enjoy, and that'll be enough.

[John Pannozzi]

I have every confidence that they'll be able to spin a well-done children's show/franchise out of it. We'll probably get another decent to good action cartoon, which I could always go for, even if it does skew young.

For my own part, all they have to do to satisfy me is hand off reprint rights to another comic publisher so we get the goddamn trades Mirage never gave us. And haven't we already heard rumblings that they'd be kind-of sort-of maybe willing to do that? So, I'll consider myself square with the Nick IP if they can get that done. If I don't dig the new material, I can at least have the series I enjoy, and that'll be enough.

My sentiments exactly.

[Bjarni]

I voted 4.
I think Viacom is going to try to do their best but they are going to fail because they don't understand the product.

The fact that Michael Bay's Platinum Dunes is in control of the movie, I'd say they just want to make money and they don't care for good stories or character.

[CyberCubed]

Some of you sound really delusional about this.

Mirage/Laird/Murphy have stated they gave all the important materials over to Nick during the buy-out. Nick is well aware of every aspect of the TMNT property.

The only aspect Nick isn't pursuing right now is the comics, but that may change after the cartoon/movie is a hit, since that's what they're concentration on first.

And where is this, "they'll kiddify the cartoon," BS coming from? Both cartoons so far were aimed at kids, and most people here enjoyed them. The show is probably going to be a slightly more tightly-written show than the original cartoon was.

[Bjarni]

Is Viacom releasing any comics currently?

[Powder]

Is Viacom releasing any comics currently?

No, duh. Read the above posts, haha.

[Voidoid]

I'll give it a 5. I'm neutral. I'm basically in the whole we'll see when it gets here mood.

[Cure]

I voted 8 because this is Nickelodeon we're talking about. They know how to make some pretty good stuff.

And where is this, "they'll kiddify the cartoon," BS coming from? Both cartoons so far were aimed at kids, and most people here enjoyed them. The show is probably going to be a slightly more tightly-written show than the original cartoon was.

I actually agree with you here. Anyone who is still holding out hope for a fully "adult" show is super dumb.

[Voidoid]

If anyone is still holding out hope for a fully "adult" show is super dumb.

On Nickelodeon no less.

[kev trashcan]

im not too sure about nick, i vote 3.

[The Stryker]

I threw down an 8. I have confidence in Nickelodeon and no Laird gumming up the works just puts it over the top for me.

[Kendamu]

Anyone who is still holding out hope for a fully "adult" show is super dumb.

Is anyone still actually holding out for a TMNT show that's aimed at adults?

[Cure]

Is anyone still actually holding out for a TMNT show that's aimed at adults?

Well...

Absolutely no confidence at all. Nick usually represents kiddie crap, and when I read way back they wanted to make it more like the old series...HELL NO.

I'm so disenchanted with it all....


I still love me Raphie though...I dont want to see how bad Nick is going to show him.

re: Power Rangers, Dragon Ball, Voltron etc.

so they want to line it up with crappy kiddie action shows...what made 2K3 so good they used a lot of comic book storylines...*IF* Nick follows this, I MAY check it out...

...I would say yes. As if it hasn't been aimed towards kids for the past 20 years, right?

[Kendamu]

On that note...

Yes, 2k3 used comic storylines. However, it was an action show aimed at children. No questioning that. Airing on Nicktoons, it would not be out-of-place amongst shows like Voltron, Dragonball Z Kai, and Power Rangers. Anyone who thinks otherwise didn't seem to notice that 2k3 was a Saturday morning cartoon made by a company called 4Kids that aired in a block completely dedicated to shows meant to entertain children.

Why is this so hard to grasp? How has this gone un-noticed for so long?

[Gyt Kaliba]

What I don't get is why it's such a bad thing for it to be for kids. Hell, violence or no violence, I'd say the original comics are for kids in their own way. Nothing wrong with anyone of any age enjoying them, or the cartoons that came from them, either way.

[Kendamu]

I wouldn't show each and every issue of Vol. 1 to my (hypothetical) young children, but there are at least a few issues I can personally think of that are safe for all ages and I'm sure there would be more if I actually looked into it.

[Koi]

You know what..... teenage mutant ninja rugrats is starting to look more and more promising the more I read this thread.

[shuriken]

^^ At this point I don't even care anymore. As long as it's enjoyable I'll watch it.

[CyberCubed]

Yeah, let's assume the TMNT show is going to be like Rugrats or Spongebob.

WTF is wrong with some of you? Are you actually being serious?

[Koi]

To answer your question Cyber
I think I said this before somewhere... stop comparing. It is irritating, TMNT will take on its own image in Nick. It won't be cooperating, and operating with all the other cartoons. It will be a different show, it won't be teenage mutant ninja rugrats, or sponges. It will just be TMNT but on a different channel, woopdeedoo.


Also, I was being sarcastic.

[Redeemer]

I have to say an 8. They are suppose to be combining the best of all the universe. This will be very interesting to see I am just happy they are getting a reboot by a big name company.

[Koi]

People should just be happy that TMNT is still being continued.

[raphfan84]

I am just going to keep my fingers crossed...I hope they will do a good job. It could go either way, but back in the early 90s Nick was good in my OP they had Ren and Stimpy, Rocko's Modern Life, Are You Afraid of the Dark etc, etc. Those were very good shows in my OP so maybe the TMNT will turn out good!:tgrin:

[Oniri]

People should just be happy that TMNT is still being continued.


I have some hope it will be good. However, I think I mostly go with Pineapple's statement. I'm just glad the something is being done with the franchise and that Nick or anybody else decided to sweep it into a dark corner to gather dust.

This of course does not mean I would tolerate crap, I'm just saying I appreciate the effort...

[twopinacoladas]

I hope they do the movie at least in a similar fashion to the comics and make it good. If they do the TV show more like the original toon or a hybrid of comics and original toon or something I will take that for a really cool movie series. I put 5 but I doubt my confidence is that high but I can hope they will do it in a way to make original fans happy even though we only make up a sliver of what their target market likely is.

[cryan]

I give it a 7.Let's just see what Nick comes up with.

[Candy Kappa]

5, at this moment I'm pretty neutral

[miyam0t0usagi]

For those who have doubts, Nick did not buy the turtles to kiddify them, they bought them to have action shows on their network. Nick isn't the kid/comedy cartoons from the 90s, they want to get into action shows, you can tell that by looking at their line up of Power Rangers, Dragon Ball, Voltron etc. They've also produced one of the best action shows (Avatar) ever so they are up to it.

For the new show my level of confidence is very high, I think Nick will really do a great job with it. However my level of confidence with Nick/Viacom having the turtles franchise is 50/50, I really don't know what they'll do with the turtles after this revival finishes its run, they have many other hugely iconic franchises they just don't use at all.. So maybe after the new show finishes its run after 6 years or so its the end of the turtles for a considerably long amount of time.

And for those who want a more serious take on the turtles, remember Viacom owns the turtles, they took Ren & Stimpy from Nick and made a show for MTV for an adult audience when they saw thats what people wanted, sure that show was terrible and failed but it shows that Viacom was ok with taking one of its cartoons from their kid network and give it a shot at an older audience. In fact it might be even more likely for the TMNT to have a more adult take on it, Mirage had the franchise for 25 years and was never able to do "adult" turtles outside of comics and even if they kept the franchise it likely wasn't going to happen, they were to small to take the risk but Viacom isn't.

Yeah not to be funny, im suprised how much Dragonball is NOT edited, i couldnt believe how much raw footage was left untouched.

I believe Nick could really hit it with this new TMNT series, i hope it becomes as good as it was in the 80's where every wheres you go you see some indication that TMNT is back.

[Fugitoid Jones]

Yeah not to be funny, im suprised how much Dragonball is NOT edited, i couldnt believe how much raw footage was left untouched.

I believe Nick could really hit it with this new TMNT series, i hope it becomes as good as it was in the 80's where every wheres you go you see some indication that TMNT is back.

I really don't want to sound like Mr. Negativity, but I really can't see TMNT regaining the popularity it had back in the late 80's/early 90's. TMNT was new and fresh when it first came out and it really tapped into the culture of the times, it had a moderate resurgence of popularity back in '03 when the new toon came out, but nothing like the old days. Times are different now and pop culture is different, it may be successful, but it won't compare to the level of popularity during it's initial run.

I understand what you're trying to say, usagi-san, and I do hope it's successful and popular, but I'm just trying to tell you to not get your hopes up for a second coming of Turtle-mania.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

I have 100% confidence in Nickelodeon handling the show. I loved what Nick did with Avatar:the Last Airbender, and have full confidence that they can handle the TMNT well.

[Spitfire]

I have 100% confidence in Nickelodeon handling the show. I loved what Nick did with Avatar:the Last Airbender, and have full confidence that they can handle the TMNT well.

I see people taking refuge in this a lot. Name one other action series they produced that was good and lasted at least 56 episodes. There's isn't any I can think of. You also got to keep in mind that unless the same team that worked on Avatar is working on this the results will not be similar.

[RiseAbove873]

With the way cartoons are now a days and finding out Alex Deligiannis is working on it? I'd say a 2.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

My only fear is TMNT will get lost in the mire of martial arts action shows/cartoons that will be on Nick: Kung Fu Panda-legends of awsomeness, DBZ, Avatar the Legend of Korra, and the live-action Powers rangers Samurai.:(

[CyberCubed]

I see people taking refuge in this a lot. Name one other action series they produced that was good and lasted at least 56 episodes. There's isn't any I can think of. You also got to keep in mind that unless the same team that worked on Avatar is working on this the results will not be similar.

Does it matter when Nick is trying to build an action block? There's a reason they had Wolverine and the X-men, Dragon Ball Kai, and other action shows.

Nick is not going to tone down TMNT. I guarantee there will be more action/fight scenes in this show than the 80's series ever had.

We're not going to see the Turtles go back to throwing pizza at Shredder to defeat him for the episode.

[sdp]

My only fear is TMNT will get lost in the mire of martial arts action shows/cartoons that will be on Nick: Kung Fu Panda-legends of awsomeness, DBZ, Avatar the Legend of Korra, and the live-action Powers rangers Samurai.:(

Don't forget Voltron ;) That is my fear as well (well not necessarily tmnt), with all the awesome shows coming out I just can't see all of them being successful and at least a few of them will bite the dust. Not only on Nick but ones on Cartoon Network and Disney as well. I mean for Nick I want Power Rangers, TMNT, Avatar and Voltron all to do great. There is also the thing that PRs/TMNT/Voltron are all three franchises that were once huge but have not proven themselves since those days.

TMNT though has the benefit of being owned by Nick, so they'll get priority no matter what. They have the best chance out of the other shows of not being lost in the shuffle. For TMNT though I'd be more concerned with the movie if it indeed comes out in 2012 since that year is bloated with huge movies that all make a lot of money and TMNT will have a ton of competition.


I see people taking refuge in this a lot. Name one other action series they produced that was good and lasted at least 56 episodes. There's isn't any I can think of. You also got to keep in mind that unless the same team that worked on Avatar is working on this the results will not be similar.

Well thats because only now is Nick trying to change into appealing to kids action shows. Avatar is an example of what they can do, Nick wanted a kids action show and liked the idea of Avatar so they funded it. Sure other shows won't have the team Avatar did but Nick chose them because they saw they could do a good job. Disney has Marvel now and DC has a ton of action shows for 2011/2012, Nick wants a piece of that pie.


I really don't want to sound like Mr. Negativity, but I really can't see TMNT regaining the popularity it had back in the late 80's/early 90's. TMNT was new and fresh when it first came out and it really tapped into the culture of the times, it had a moderate resurgence of popularity back in '03 when the new toon came out, but nothing like the old days. Times are different now and pop culture is different, it may be successful, but it won't compare to the level of popularity during it's initial run.
I agree that once something was a fad its hard to get back to that place, the turtles where new and fresh back then, its almost impossible to re-create that again. However that doesn't mean the new show can't be moderately successful, not quite fad level it had but big on its own. Also it could get huge again, just look at Transformers, maybe it didn't get as big as it once was in the 80s but its gotten pretty huge again on fad level.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Don't forget Voltron ;)

Eh, I was only counting the martial arts shows, but your absolutely right. My worst fear is the similarity with Kung Fu Panda. Two Martial arts shows with Anthrpomorphic animals, with cool action mixed with humor? And Kung Fu Panda is the bigger of the Two franchises right now. Yeah, I'm a little worried for TMNT :/

And Po the Panda makes things even worse for ever seeing my favorite TMNT character in Animation. (not to mention the fact that, like Usagi Yojimbo, he was a character owned by somebody else >< )

[Candy Kappa]

Kung Fu Panda animators working on next gen TMNT show... *Drool*
dammit, now I got an other fantasy that might not happen

[Eiko]

Really just have to wait and see what Nick does. Some will love it some will hate it. Just hope it not gonna be to kid like but knowing Nick it prob will be.

[Bjarni]

If the shows are similar in animation and in style, there is no reason we wouldn't be seeing some kind of Kung Fu Panda/Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cross over this year.

[The Stryker]

I really doubt we'll be seeing anything this year.

[Redeemer]

Truthfully I think if they keep it in the tone of the early 2k3 series I think it will b fine.

[Andrew NDB]

Truthfully I think if they keep it in the tone of the early 2k3 series I think it will b fine.

They're not going for that at all.

[Toon]

they're not going for that at all.

... ... ?

[Venom]

Heh heh, nice. :cool:

[Kendamu]

Neat. Something new to reflect upon!

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Guess that shows we shouldn't assume what Nick is intending to do with the show :lol:

What I'm hoping for is OT characters and the 2k3 tone.

[Bjarni]

... ... ?

Does anyone know when the show is going to air in 2011? Before or after summer? I'm really looking forward to this.

[tipet]

they're not going for that at all.
... ... ?

Zaska!!!!! :lol:

[Venom]

Does anyone know when the show is going to air in 2011? Before or after summer? I'm really looking forward to this.

The new show isn't set to debut until next year. Right now we've just been speculating that 2K3 or the Fred Wolf series may begin airing on Nick since the website says "Get ready for TMNT action in 2011".

[CyberCubed]

If the shows are similar in animation and in style, there is no reason we wouldn't be seeing some kind of Kung Fu Panda/Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cross over this year.

Are you joking? Why the hell would Nick do a crossover with TMNT and a Dreamworks franchise?

This thread is laughable. Nick owns TMNT and is going to make every effort to make the new show a success.

The amount of bitter fans in this thread is astounding.

[Bjarni]

Are you joking? Why the hell would Nick do a crossover with TMNT and a Dreamworks franchise?

This thread is laughable. Nick owns TMNT and is going to make every effort to make the new show a success.

You just sorta answered your own question. Viacom owned Dreamworks in 2006-2008, they still have a working relationship, if they think it would work, they would probably do it.

When the Turtles were licensed to Saban, they did a cross-over with the Power Rangers.

I'm not saying they will do it or if it's a bad or good of an idea. I'm just saying they could if they wanted to.

[Krang]

The amount of bitter fans in this thread is astounding.
At the time of this post, over 82% voted 5 or above, and most of the comments posted so far were either positive or neutral. You must be easily astounded. :P

[blockhead]

I"m going to give them a 4. I really can't see Nick doing a good job. I think the 2k3 series will be the closest interpretation to the comics we are going to get.