The Dark Knight Rises

[Raph's Girl]

new pic surfaced
http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/blogs/theprojector/bigbatmanbane.jpg

Yeah. They're filming in Pittsburgh ATM.

[Donnie]

I hear the same rumor that Batman is going to kick the bucket. What are the chances of that happening? I guess for this trilogy, it wouldn't be shocking.

[A little *too* Raph]

Trollface?

new pic surfaced
http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/blogs/theprojector/bigbatmanbane.jpg

[Revan]

I hear the same rumor that Batman is going to kick the bucket. What are the chances of that happening? I guess for this trilogy, it wouldn't be shocking.

I wouldn't be opposed as long as he completes his save gotham mission and goes out on top

Die a hero... :)

[ToTheNines]

Filming of a brawl in the streets of Gotham

twPypRSpj-M

[Jurassic]

Since it seems that so many people get butt hurt about pics found on the net and posted here cause "I might not wanna see this till the movie".....give me a break! I'm starting to see why so many people come to this site then leave shortly after.....this is almost worse than being on a nerdy gamer site than an actual site dedicated to the love of TMNT.

Anyway, so some don't cry is their cereal today....here a the first pic I've seen of Catwoman.
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/1600/catwomant.jpg

[TheCanadiandrome]

oh man, i can't wait for this movie!

[Raph's Girl]

Catwoman needs more...ears. Is that her catmobile or did she steal a ride from Batman?

[ToTheNines]

It's the Bat Pod.

Um... I like everything except from the goofy ass goggles. Looks like something from spy kids.

[Ninjinister]

I thought this was Catwoman, not generic spandex chick #887...?

Man, I was anticipating this, but so far, everything I've glimpsed has been a downer. I still have a bit of hope, due to how much I liked the previous two, but man alive... I'm sad so far.

[Xav]

I hope that's just her pre Catwoman outfit. Also I highly doubt Batman will die unless they want to really piss off fans and have noone see the movie.

[Brodie]

Yeah, I'm sure they have to worry about no one seeing it...


Catwoman looks incredibly lackluster. Much like everything else. Fantastic.

[Xav]

Well of course people would still see it after the first two. But a downer ending would no doubt hurt the film.

[Krang]

Since it seems that so many people get butt hurt about pics found on the net and posted here cause "I might not wanna see this till the movie".....give me a break!
What do you mean? Not a single person has posted a complaint like that about any of the pics posted in this thread... :-?

[A little *too* Raph]

Not really spoilers, but I got more info about tomorrow. Specifically what Steelers will be on set. But, proceed at your own risk I guess...

ROGUES P L A Y E R S
#91 Aaron Smith
#7 Ben Roethlisberger
#99 Brett Kiesel
#13 Dan Rooney
#83 Heath Miller
#86 Hines Ward
#24 Ike Taylor
#51 James Farrior
#92 James Harrison
#56 LaMarr Woodley
#53 Maurkice Pouncey
#17 Mike Wallace
#25 Ryan Clark
#43 Troy Polamalu

ROGUES COACHES
Bill Cowher
Kevin Colbert
Kelvin Fisher
Omar Kahn
Bruce McNorton
Dan Prunzik
Matt Smith

MONUMENTS P L A Y E R S

#19 Luke Ravenstahl

[Jurassic]

more pics from set
the Tumbler in a desert like camo. interesting choice
http://l.yimg.com/k/im_siggwGSVrkakE_UYBl26aOTP5g---y660-x648-q75-n0/omg/us/img/82/81/6848_1796566895.jpg
http://l.yimg.com/k/im_siggvc_1Y3nVuQG_ZA.kbnyZ1Q---y660-x648-q75-n0/omg/us/img/87/80/6385_11085115987.jpg

http://l.yimg.com/k/im_sigg4pMPrFcuZIMpcvp2b01bWA---y660-x616-q75-n0/omg/us/img/8f/13/2673_666844443.jpg

[oldmanwinters]

Coming next summer...

Anne Hathaway rides the Batpod 3D simulator!!!

[Jurassic]

I'm still in the air about her being Catwoman.

[Raph's Girl]

Not really spoilers, but I got more info about tomorrow. Specifically what Steelers will be on set. But, proceed at your own risk I guess...

ROGUES P L A Y E R S
#91 Aaron Smith
#7 Ben Roethlisberger
#99 Brett Kiesel
#13 Dan Rooney
#83 Heath Miller
#86 Hines Ward
#24 Ike Taylor
#51 James Farrior
#92 James Harrison
#56 LaMarr Woodley
#53 Maurkice Pouncey
#17 Mike Wallace
#25 Ryan Clark
#43 Troy Polamalu

ROGUES COACHES
Bill Cowher
Kevin Colbert
Kelvin Fisher
Omar Kahn
Bruce McNorton
Dan Prunzik
Matt Smith

MONUMENTS P L A Y E R S

#19 Luke Ravenstahl

I'll hopefully be getting some pics from that scene from a friend. Or some filming. He said he'd try to get as close as possible.

Seems like everyone in Pittsburg is trying to sneak onto the sets. *lol*

Oh and that last one of Catwoman on the batpod. That wasn't Anne. It's her stunt double.

[TheCanadiandrome]

I'm still in the air about her being Catwoman.

ditto! me to man

[ToTheNines]

No South American accent for Bane. Apparently, he sounds like Dumbledore.

[ZariusTwo]

I thought this was Catwoman, not generic spandex chick #887...?

Man, I was anticipating this, but so far, everything I've glimpsed has been a downer. I still have a bit of hope, due to how much I liked the previous two, but man alive... I'm sad so far.

Give me a f*cking break, these pics look awesome, you've just been spoiled rotten by the last two films. This movie will be grand

[Turo602]

Give me a f*cking break, these pics look awesome, you've just been spoiled rotten by the last two films. This movie will be grand

What? Have you seen this movie? I don't think so. And so far, Catwomen looks horrible, well at least the costume. What the hell screams "hey I'm Catwomen"? Nothing does. I wouldn't have known that was Catwomen if I hadn't been told so. That thing on her face is a downer.

I understand that Nolan goes for a more realistic take on villains and I like that, so I don't mind Bane too much from what I've seen, but WTF? Catwomen looks ridiculous.

And just a random comment... I smell a Batman and Catwomen team up in this movie.

[AT-Man]

I smell a Batman and Catwomen team up in this movie.

>I smell a Batman and Catwomen team up in this movie
>I smell a Batman and Catwomen team up
>Batman and Catwomen team up
>Batman and Catwomen
>and Catwomen
>Catwomen

[Jurassic]

Batman has a new vehicle......spoiler to those who want to be surprised

Just decided to post the link. There are 5 videos. The stunt double fills out the Catwoman suit nicely! :teek:
http://io9.com/5831166/the-dark-knight-rises-set-videos/gallery/3

[ToTheNines]

I guess this whole Catwoman thing kinda killed my interest in this movie. I could easily be won over by the trailers... but those goggles on Anne have got to go.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Batman has a new vehicle......spoiler to those who want to be surprised

Just decided to post the link. There are 5 videos. The stunt double fills out the Catwoman suit nicely! :teek:
http://io9.com/5831166/the-dark-knight-rises-set-videos/gallery/3

wow that thing looks cool

[Fugitoid Jones]

What? Have you seen this movie? I don't think so. And so far, Catwomen looks horrible, well at least the costume. What the hell screams "hey I'm Catwomen"? Nothing does. I wouldn't have known that was Catwomen if I hadn't been told so. That thing on her face is a downer.

I understand that Nolan goes for a more realistic take on villains and I like that, so I don't mind Bane too much from what I've seen, but WTF? Catwomen looks ridiculous.

And just a random comment... I smell a Batman and Catwomen team up in this movie.

I'm flabbergasted as to why people think CatwomAn looks horrible. Does she have the cat ears and tail? No. Did the Catwoman costume from the 60's tv show have ears and a tail? No, and say what you want about that series, but nobody ever complained that the actors didn't look like the characters they were portraying because of the costumes.

Anne Hathaway (and her double) is wearing skin tight, black leather, with long black boots and gloves. What more do people really need? Plus, these pictures are totally taken out of context. We have no idea where in the movie this takes place. And the weird Virtual Boy goggles she's wearing? Again, we don't know what's going on in the story.

Jiminey Cricket, people see an out of context picture or 2 and they lose their ****. If they showed a picture of Michael Caine on set with his eyes closed, I'm sure everyone would be like "OMG they're killing Alfred! Worst movie evarrrrr!!! Hate hate hate hate!"

When Chris Nolan cast Heath Ledger as the Joker, at first I was like "what? Him? Really? That can't be good." But then I saw The Dark Knight and it was awesome, so ever since then, I've learned to give the guy the benefit of the doubt.

[Turo602]

I'm flabbergasted as to why people think CatwomAn looks horrible. Does she have the cat ears and tail? No. Did the Catwoman costume from the 60's tv show have ears and a tail? No, and say what you want about that series, but nobody ever complained that the actors didn't look like the characters they were portraying because of the costumes.

Anne Hathaway (and her double) is wearing skin tight, black leather, with long black boots and gloves. What more do people really need? Plus, these pictures are totally taken out of context. We have no idea where in the movie this takes place. And the weird Virtual Boy goggles she's wearing? Again, we don't know what's going on in the story.

Jiminey Cricket, people see an out of context picture or 2 and they lose their ****. If they showed a picture of Michael Caine on set with his eyes closed, I'm sure everyone would be like "OMG they're killing Alfred! Worst movie evarrrrr!!! Hate hate hate hate!"

When Chris Nolan cast Heath Ledger as the Joker, at first I was like "what? Him? Really? That can't be good." But then I saw The Dark Knight and it was awesome, so ever since then, I've learned to give the guy the benefit of the doubt.

So you're telling me if Catwoman was fat in this movie we should give it a chance because it might have to do with something in the story? The actor isn't the problem. I'm happy Hathaway got the role. It's just that the costume is just bad, well the visor anyway. I don't care if it's gonna have a plot relevance unless it means it's her first costume and she ends up with something better the majority of the film. But a bad decision backed up by the plot is still a bad decision if this does turn out to be her final costume. Think of it this way. How would you feel if Batman's costume didn't resemble Batman?

[Slap-Happy]

but those goggles on Anne have got to go.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/debbiedowner/news/?a=45315

[Spitfire]

The complaining about Catwoman is reaching ridiculous heights all over the internet. She wears goggles in the comics. Her costume is pretty accurate. There's way less accurate costumes in almost every other comic movie and people complain about those less. Also no one has seen the movie we have no idea the context of that screen shot. Getting worked up over it is really idiotic at this point.

[ToTheNines]

The complaining about Catwoman is reaching ridiculous heights all over the internet. She wears goggles in the comics. Her costume is pretty accurate.

She wears goggles in the comics, but they look nothing like those.

And I don't care too much about accuracy, I just want things to not look like sh*t. Which is what those goggles do.

[Fugitoid Jones]

Here's an article from Forbes that I thought was pretty good. It's called "Five Reasons Why Anne Hathaway's Catwoman Looks Like Catwoman".

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2011/08/09/five-reasons-why-anne-hathaways-catwoman-looks-like-catwoman/

Listening to everybody complain about Hathaway's costume, I'm pretty sure there was less vile being spewed on the Halle Berry Catwoman suit before that movie came out.

[Turo602]

Here's an article from Forbes that I thought was pretty good. It's called "Five Reasons Why Anne Hathaway's Catwoman Looks Like Catwoman".

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2011/08/09/five-reasons-why-anne-hathaways-catwoman-looks-like-catwoman/

Listening to everybody complain about Hathaway's costume, I'm pretty sure there was less vile being spewed on the Halle Berry Catwoman suit before that movie came out.

So what's your point? Does this costume have to look great to everybody just because things were worse before? All it is, is throwing more crap onto the pile. Sure, It might be a hell of a lot better then that filth we got with Halle Berry but that doesn't mean it's a great look. The only reason this seems like such a big disappointment is because I'm sure people expected better from Nolan. The costume lacks a Catwoman look. Sure she's wearing tight spandex but that's all you can say. Yeah, she'll have gadgets but what does that matter? It still doesn't make her LOOK anymore like Catwoman. It's the face area that bother's me and I'm sure many others as well. People like to bring up the Catwoman from the Adam West TV show from the 60's but at least she had ears. This one has ridiculous "goggles".

[Fugitoid Jones]

I guess my point was that the costume could be alot worse. But you're right. The "goggles" thing is soooo silly. "Cat ears" makes alot more sense, both thematically and realistically.

[TheCanadiandrome]

I don't really care what the hell she's wearing frankly. I just want the character to be good this iteration

[Leo656]

One of the best things I ever did, even though it sucked at the time, was lose the internet for like 5-6 years. You lose perspective. Since I've been back on more lately it's easier to see how easily people get worked up and to what degree.

So Catwoman might not have kitty ears in this movie. It'll still be good. All signs point to the "Cat" in this Catwoman being more "cat burglar" than "chick who literally has a thing for cats", and as such, she need not literally have a feline appearance. The fact that she's a "cat burglar", she wears a leather "catsuit", the way she moves in a "catlike" manner... all more than qualify her to be Catwoman without a tail and ears, especially in this more realistic take on the characters.

I mean, I get it, I totally do. I'm not thrilled with the little changes to the new Superman costume in that movie, but it's not the same with Catwoman, she's had like 75 costumes since Batman #1. In this case, how the character is portrayed is far more important than her costume. Look at Batman Returns. Visually it was a great take on Catwoman, but as far as her origin and the overall portrayal it wasn't very good, even though the costume was. I'm betting this will be the best big-screen Catwoman yet, ears or no.

People need to relax.

[Jurassic]

I have no problems with her outfit I'm just worried if A. Hathaway can pull off the sultriness of the character she's going to be playing. I'm going into this movie very open minded. I don't think I'll be disappointed in the least!

[Fugitoid Jones]

So Catwoman might not have kitty ears in this movie. It'll still be good. All signs point to the "Cat" in this Catwoman being more "cat burglar" than "chick who literally has a thing for cats", and as such, she need not literally have a feline appearance. The fact that she's a "cat burglar", she wears a leather "catsuit", the way she moves in a "catlike" manner... all more than qualify her to be Catwoman without a tail and ears, especially in this more realistic take on the characters.


Thank you. My feelings exactly.

[Turo602]

One of the best things I ever did, even though it sucked at the time, was lose the internet for like 5-6 years. You lose perspective. Since I've been back on more lately it's easier to see how easily people get worked up and to what degree.

So Catwoman might not have kitty ears in this movie. It'll still be good. All signs point to the "Cat" in this Catwoman being more "cat burglar" than "chick who literally has a thing for cats", and as such, she need not literally have a feline appearance. The fact that she's a "cat burglar", she wears a leather "catsuit", the way she moves in a "catlike" manner... all more than qualify her to be Catwoman without a tail and ears, especially in this more realistic take on the characters.

I mean, I get it, I totally do. I'm not thrilled with the little changes to the new Superman costume in that movie, but it's not the same with Catwoman, she's had like 75 costumes since Batman #1. In this case, how the character is portrayed is far more important than her costume. Look at Batman Returns. Visually it was a great take on Catwoman, but as far as her origin and the overall portrayal it wasn't very good, even though the costume was. I'm betting this will be the best big-screen Catwoman yet, ears or no.

People need to relax.

I don't see what the problem is. All we're saying well at least me, is that her appearance as Catwoman isn't good. We're...I'm, not saying that the movie will suck because of this. That would a dumb reason to think that. But come on. Bringing up the realistic thing is still no excuse. You might as well botch Batman and say that this is a more realistic take on him. Her performance as Catwoman better make up for that costume. Like you said, the performance matters, but that doesn't mean the appearance doesn't also.

I don't mind changes with characters in media outside of the source material, but I just don't like when they do something too drastic from what we know it to be. Sometimes we're lucky, but I don't think that's a good risk to take with this movie. I mean, she doesn't even look cool IMO. That thing on her face is just whack.

[Candy Cougar]

Super excited about this movie. I am a total fan of Batman, and the Dark Knight movies are awesome thus far. Plus sooo excited to see Catwoman in this. It can't be worse than Halle Berry...right? :D

[KROW]

I don't get the Catwoman hate, either. Bane looks worse.

[The Stryker]

The whole thing has looked lame.

[shuriken]

I don't get the Catwoman hate, either. Bane looks worse.

yes. Anne Hathaway in a tight latex outfit is awesome. Bane with a wierd gas mask thing/ trenchcoat? not so much. I do however wish they have a scene with him sipping a martini in a marroon robe, that would be awesome.
POST # COINCIDES WITH THE YEAR OMG

[TheCanadiandrome]

Super excited about this movie. I am a total fan of Batman, and the Dark Knight movies are awesome thus far. Plus sooo excited to see Catwoman in this. It can't be worse than Halle Berry...right? :D

Lol good one :tlol:

[Godzilla]

With Catwoman, her costume gives me that Newmar/Meriwether/Kitt vibe. Outside of the goggles of course. Looking forward to Anne Hathaway's performance, though I've always enjoyed Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman.

Pretty confident Tom Hardy will deliver as Bane. However, like others, I'm not exactly crazy about the new look. Not getting exactly why the mask was dramatcially altered to the extent it is, cause I feel the comic book mask could have just easily worked with only minor alterations. Oh well.

[Leo656]

I'm pretty sure with Bane they just wanted something that said more "super-villain" and less "Roided-Up Luchadore". It's fine.

And again, there is no "right" way to make Catwoman look, because they constantly change her outfit. I'm the first one to bitch about costume changes in comic movies. In fact, I'll come out and say that the Batman suit in these new flicks has looked like clunky sh*t to me. I get why it does, but I still don't like it. I hate the look of the movie's main character. And yet, I love the movies anyway because I love the way the character is portrayed.

Does anyone care this much about Catwoman any other time? NO, or else she could support her own book for more than a year. People just gotta bitch about something.

Save your venom for what deserves it. Like the new Superman costume. :P

[Godzilla]

I'm pretty sure with Bane they just wanted something that said more "super-villain" and less "Roided-Up Luchadore". It's fine.

Bleh. It screams "Mortal Kombat" to me. That's the first thought that came to mind upon seeing the officially released pic of the Nolanization of Bane. If it's between that, or the original luchadore mask, I'll take the latter. Especially when it would be fairly easy to modify it, or even just the colors in order to make it appear less luchadore-ish.


Save your venom for what deserves it. Like the new Superman costume. :P

Looks alright to me, and similar to the new 52 relaunch Superman that DC Comics is publishing now. Sans obvious knee pads of course.

[Jester]

Any one see the new shots of Anne Hathaway as Cat Woman:
http://justjared.buzznet.com/2011/09/24/anne-hathaway-dark-knight-rises-set-with-christian-bale/

[Fugitoid Jones]

I just saw those. Looks like she's wearing a pair of goddamn cat-ears to me. If you ask me, she totally looks like Catwoman in those pics, but you know what pisses me off? Is all the people that are still going to bitch about the costume. At this point, all the people complaining about the costume could care less about how the character is portrayed in the film, all they're concerned with is how the costume will never be 103% comic book accurate, and I wonder if they really mean the original Catwoman costume with the green cape and dress.




I totally dig the new pics, and I think the costume looks great. I just wish these pics would shut up the haters.

[shuriken]

http://justjared.buzznet.com/photo-gallery/2583712/anne-hathaway-catwoman-dark-knight-rises-set-04/

Batman looks like he's doing the Ric Flair strut. I approve

[Jester]

I just saw those. Looks like she's wearing a pair of goddamn cat-ears to me. If you ask me, she totally looks like Catwoman in those pics, but you know what pisses me off? Is all the people that are still going to bitch about the costume. At this point, all the people complaining about the costume could care less about how the character is portrayed in the film, all they're concerned with is how the costume will never be 103% comic book accurate, and I wonder if they really mean the original Catwoman costume with the green cape and dress.




I totally dig the new pics, and I think the costume looks great. I just wish these pics would shut up the haters.
I agree...that's why I posted them. I like the new shots. :P

[oldmanwinters]

Ha! I see those pictures I think it looks like Hathaway is going to a Halloween costume party! Still, I have faith in Nolan... as much as any other direction anyway.

[Turo602]

I just saw those. Looks like she's wearing a pair of goddamn cat-ears to me. If you ask me, she totally looks like Catwoman in those pics, but you know what pisses me off? Is all the people that are still going to bitch about the costume. At this point, all the people complaining about the costume could care less about how the character is portrayed in the film, all they're concerned with is how the costume will never be 103% comic book accurate, and I wonder if they really mean the original Catwoman costume with the green cape and dress.




I totally dig the new pics, and I think the costume looks great. I just wish these pics would shut up the haters.

Um, who the hell are these people you're talking about? And yeah, NOW she has cat ears. Again, what does character have to do with anything? If Batman was in pink and didn't have his bat-ears but his character is spot on does it mean it's okay that his costume looks horrible? I don't think so. And why the hell would people want an accurate straight from the original comics version of her? Is that what these films have been doing? No!

I like the new costume, it's very fitting and she no longer looks like she has a disability. I feared that they were gonna keep her with that nasty visor.

[oldmanwinters]

I still don't get the stiletto heels. Nolan's universe has been heavy on practical explanations for superhero gimmicks. How is it even feasible for CW to run, jump, and fight wearing those things?

[Leogeddon]

I still don't get the stiletto heels. Nolan's universe has been heavy on practical explanations for superhero gimmicks. How is it even feasible for CW to run, jump, and fight wearing those things?
I'm sure they're going to just let us wonder over that, better to leave a little more time in the movie for the action and story instead of how and why with whatever items.

[Barkworm]

For all of you who don't get it: The ears ARE the goggles, she just pushes them onto her head.

[Jester]

For all of you who don't get it: The ears ARE the goggles, she just pushes them onto her head.
Then this movie will fail!!! Rarah!! [/nerdrage]
:roll:

[Fugitoid Jones]

Um, who the hell are these people you're talking about?

All the uptight nerds that complain about a couple of pictures and will be satisfied with absolutely nothing because they've gotten this mindset that what they've seen is bad and they can't change their opinions about the matter even after more pictures are revealed to prove them wrong. They're all over the internet. Even some of my FB friends are like that.

Again, what does character have to do with anything?

Umm...everything? Would you be happy with a movie about a rapist who calls himself Batman and dresses in the costume?

If Batman was in pink and didn't have his bat-ears but his character is spot on does it mean it's okay that his costume looks horrible?

That's kind of an extreme comparison. People can say what they want about Hathaway's Catwoman costume, but they can't say that it's radically different from the comics (like Halle Berry's was).

And why the hell would people want an accurate straight from the original comics version of her? Is that what these films have been doing? No!

Apparently alot of people (those uptight nerds I mentioned earlier). They don't care. If she doesn't have the whip, the tail, the whiskers, the green cape, whatever, they will crap on it because the comics version is their comfort food, and they can't handle any sort of reinterpretation because it deviates from what helps them sleep at night.

I like the new costume, it's very fitting and she no longer looks like she has a disability. I feared that they were gonna keep her with that nasty visor.

I agree, I think the costume looks good, and Anne Hathaway looks hot in it! :tgrin:

[Slap-Happy]

Anybody else see the prologue?

I just got back, and... Holy sh*t...

[oldmanwinters]

Anybody else see the prologue?


I do like to see some real special effects with wires and risk involved!

I'm starting to think Bane might trump both Batman and The Avengers this summer.

[Leonardo87]

Anybody else see the prologue?

I just got back, and... Holy sh*t...


My thoughts exactly! I can see a lot of planning and ideas went into the script to make better than The Dark Knight.

[AquaParade]

Can anyone PM me a link to watch this? Would be greatly appreciated. Here's hoping Bane is one scary mother****er!

[TheCanadiandrome]

Yeah I wanna see this also

[The Stryker]

I can't wait until Batman and Bane have a "Can't-understand-what-the-hell-you're-saying"-Off.

[Slap-Happy]

I can't wait until Batman and Bane have a "Can't-understand-what-the-hell-you're-saying"-Off.
Yeah, Bane's dialogue was extremely muffled by the mask. Hope it's changed in post.

[ToTheNines]

I've heard a 2 minute trailer is coming out today.

[Fugitoid Jones]

Really jealous of everybody that got to see the prologue (I don't have an Imax theater near where I live). And I refuse to watch some bootleg-handheld cam footage of the prologue. I want to see a decent quality version of it.

What movie is the new trailer supposed to be with?

[Slap-Happy]

What movie is the new trailer supposed to be with?
Sherlock Holmes and Mission Impossible.

[Redeemer]

jst saw it on youtube, it was a bootleg copy but decent quality, looks really interesting

[Xav]

Yeah, Bane's dialogue was extremely muffled by the mask. Hope it's changed in post. If you can't understand Bane here's the script pages with the dialogue.
http://www.movieweb.com/news/the-dark-knight-rises-prologue-script-pages-reveal-banes-dialogue

[Cowabunga Carl]

I like the trailer. Now we just need a nice clear crisp version of it. I look forward to seeing the end of Nolan's run. But I'm also looking forward to the future and what it might hold.

[The Stryker]

If you can't understand Bane here's the script pages with the dialogue.
http://www.movieweb.com/news/the-dark-knight-rises-prologue-script-pages-reveal-banes-dialogue

Great! That's awesome that you need to read a transcript to understand a character.

[ToTheNines]

yh6SriAjdE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yh6SriAjdE

[Barkworm]

While Bane's voice sounds cool, even in the trailer I have no idea what he's talking about.

[Brodie]

That looks ****ing dumb.

[ToTheNines]

While Bane's voice sounds cool, even in the trailer I have no idea what he's talking about.


"When Gotham is ashes... you'll have my permission to die."

[TheCanadiandrome]

is this "prologue" going to be on the official dvd/blu-ray release?

[Slap-Happy]

The prologue is just the first five minutes of the movie, so yeah.

[Filespit]

I was actually a bit disappointed with the new trailer, but I'm keeping my thumbs up!

[Slap-Happy]

but I'm keeping my thumbs up!
I think you mean hopes.

[Ninja_Shoe_Repair]

any links to the bootleg prologue still out there? Can't find any active ones in google.

[TheCanadiandrome]

The prologue is just the first five minutes of the movie, so yeah.

rofl! oh ok :tcool:

[oldmanwinters]

I don't know if it's what Nolan was going for, but I found that imploding football field scene camp-ily hilarious! Hmm... I'm guessing that wasn't what he was going for.

[Xav]

any links to the bootleg prologue still out there? Can't find any active ones in google. http://www.tagtele.com/videos/voir/76551

[ZariusTwo]

That looks ****ing dumb.

Slamming a movie without any good reason is f*cking dumb.

You couldnt do better

[The Stryker]

Here we go. I didn't know you had to be some accomplished director to have an opinion on a movie trailer.

I'll add to the pot. That football field scene looked like some Uwe Boll low-rent garbage.

I can't bring myself to actively hate on what we've seen of this movie because everything I've seen is so boring and flat that I can't feel anything for it.

[Barkworm]

I agree that the Football field looked really lame. The part where Wayne asks what the chant means is also cringeworthy.

[Brodie]

Slamming a movie without any good reason is f*cking dumb.

You couldnt do better

I never said I could, but for all the hype this movie trailer is getting? You've got to be ****ing kidding me.

The CGI in the football scene is ridiculous. Bane's Dialogue is near impossible to make out. This movie trailer failed at doing what trailers are supposed to do: make me interested in seeing the film.

Note I didn't slam the movie. The trailer looks ****ing dumb. The movie is probably fine, but from this? Looks ****ing dumb. And if Nolan's name wasn't on this, if you could ignore that fact while watching that trailer? People wouldn't give it a second thought, cause it looks like another ridiculous action movie with a superhero trying ever-so-hard to be incredibly dark and serious in tone.

I like Nolan's movies, don't get me wrong. But this is horse ****.

[oldmanwinters]

I've taken a ho-hum reaction to the trailer (mostly on account of the fact that the imploding football field strikes me as something just short of the dehydration of the United World Organization's Security Council (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCN0Eyyb0Ys#t=1m11s) in the 1966 Adam West classic), but the thoughtful review of the trailer over at The Adventures in Poor Taste (http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com/2011/12/21/the-dark-knight-rises-trailer-review/) has actually made me more intrigued at the possible depth of content that may await us Bat-fans.

[Spitfire]

I never said I could, but for all the hype this movie trailer is getting? You've got to be ****ing kidding me.

The CGI in the football scene is ridiculous. Bane's Dialogue is near impossible to make out. This movie trailer failed at doing what trailers are supposed to do: make me interested in seeing the film.

Note I didn't slam the movie. The trailer looks ****ing dumb. The movie is probably fine, but from this? Looks ****ing dumb. And if Nolan's name wasn't on this, if you could ignore that fact while watching that trailer? People wouldn't give it a second thought, cause it looks like another ridiculous action movie with a superhero trying ever-so-hard to be incredibly dark and serious in tone.

I like Nolan's movies, don't get me wrong. But this is horse ****.

I think that's a pretty huge problem with all the trailers they've done so far. They seemed rushed to me. I have a feeling none of that will look the same in the final film. Unless they rush that too. I'm betting WB is up their ass to give them something they can promote with. It makes no sense though because the film isn't out for over 7 months and honestly they don't need to advertise something like this. Aren't they still shooting it? I know they were when the first trailer dropped.

[Filespit]

I think you mean hopes.
Haha, you're partly right. In Sweden we say "I'm holding my thumbs" when we mean we're keeping our hopes up. Guess I just made a language mix there!

[ToTheNines]

I think that's a pretty huge problem with all the trailers they've done so far. They seemed rushed to me. I have a feeling none of that will look the same in the final film. Unless they rush that too. I'm betting WB is up their ass to give them something they can promote with. It makes no sense though because the film isn't out for over 7 months and honestly they don't need to advertise something like this. Aren't they still shooting it? I know they were when the first trailer dropped.

It's in post.

[Xav]

Bane's Dialogue is near impossible to make out. I agree what's the point of casting someone who can act, instead of just some wrestler, if they are going to cover his face and muffle his dialogue so you can't understand what's he's saying?

[Spitfire]

I agree what's the point of casting someone who can act, instead of just some wrestler, if they are going to cover his face and muffle his dialogue so you can't understand what's he's saying?

Because the audio isn't finished yet and you'll be able to understand him perfectly fine in the final film.

[Xav]

Um no you won't.
http://www.ramascreen.com/director-christopher-nolan-wont-change-the-sound-mix-just-so-you-can-understand-banes-dialogue-in-the-dark-knight-rises

[Spitfire]

That has nothing to do with the audio mix. The mix is what needs to be changed, his voice needs to come up. The processing on it does contribute to him being hard to hear but only because the sound effects were laying on the same frequencies. That will be fixed in post.

[Xav]

This has nothing to do with the audio mix yet the mix needs to be changed? I'm sorry I have no idea what your talking about. How do you know it will be fixed? They say they want the audience involved and engaged by struggling to understand Bane. That certainly doesn't sound like they want to fix the problem.

[Spitfire]

The article is about Bane's vocal effect not how loud it is in the mix or how it was hard to hear because of frequency clash. Keeping the effect doesn't mean the final mix will sound as obviously unpolished as the teaser.

[MikeandRaph87]

New photos primarily of Bane. A muffled Hannibal Lecter anyone?:P Take away from the supposed scary but we will see. I wonder if Catwoman will act act more as an anti-hero here.
http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20483133_20560313,00.html?stitched

[ToTheNines]

The 3rd trailer will be playing in front of The Avengers, in case ya'll didn't know.

[ZariusTwo]

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I really am getting "Robocop 3" vibes from the final few moments, what with the cops amassing in the street and the Tumbler wing in the air...not sure if that's a good or bad thing...'cause I like Robocop 3....I'm not supposed to.

[The Stryker]

The last bit of the trailer actually did something for me. Which is more than I can say for everything else I've seen about this movie.

Good? I dunno. Atleast it's something.

[ToTheNines]

Same here. As a whole, the trailer was pretty tame and I still have no clue what Catwoman, John Blake or really any of the other new characters are supposed to be about.

It's the 3rd movie in a trilogy though, anyone with high expectations for this needs to get out more.

[ZariusTwo]

Why is it a crime to be excited for this movie? Because hating the third film of any trilogy is the "in" thing?

Good thing some of us arent fickle sheep. I've often always found the third film of a trilogy to often be underlooked. I love Godfather III, Back to the Future III, Return of the Jedi, hell even Matrix Revolutions. I'm definatly going to like this, and to hell with whatever mood the bandwagoners are in, at the end of the day, those morons ruin their own good time.

I get out fairly often. I also get laid.

[Cure]

Only you can take a comment on trilogies and turn it into a rant that ends with you getting laid.

[Candy Kappa]

getting laid.

making the third movie better

[ToTheNines]

Why is it a crime to be excited for this movie? Because hating the third film of any trilogy is the "in" thing?

When did I ever say that? I'm a big Batman fan, I promise you my ass will be in a theater seat when TDKR comes out. I'll get more excited as we get closer to the release date, but right now the trailers haven't done much for me.

Many good movies have had uninteresting trailers, and vice versa.

Good thing some of us arent fickle sheep. I've often always found the third film of a trilogy to often be underlooked. I love Godfather III, Back to the Future III, Return of the Jedi, hell even Matrix Revolutions. I'm definatly going to like this, and to hell with whatever mood the bandwagoners are in, at the end of the day, those morons ruin their own good time.

Sooo that's 4 movies that were the 3rd in their series. Even if all 4 of those were good (and they're not), that still leaves about 200 stinkers.

And saying you're going to like a movie before you actually see it is just as dense as saying you're going to hate it.

I get out fairly often.

That was just an expression. You'd have realized that if you got out more. :D

I also get laid.

Alright. You truly are pathetic.

First of all, am I not on your "ignore list"? Secondly, I don't give a damn about your sex life... But if boasting about it on a ****ing TMNT message board is what turns your partner on, keep at it. I won't get in your way.

Give her a bloody wankah for me! (Did I use that right?)

[ZariusTwo]

getting laid.

making the third movie better

Well there's a lot of "rising" involved in both...:lol:

[ToTheNines]

Seriously? No one's going to call him out on that?

[Cure]

Go right ahead, dawg.

[TheCanadiandrome]

The 3rd trailer will be playing in front of The Avengers, in case ya'll didn't know.

yup! can't wait to see it

[mikey22]

Hello

This may be posted elsewhere, but has anyone found a good dark knight rises 6 minute trailer preview? the one i found is really blurry.

similar to the joker dark knight one it deals with bane for the opening scene.

thanks

[Leo656]

Got D-Box seats for the midnight showing. Soooo pumped.

[ToTheNines]

Trying to get excited....

[CyberCubed]

The reviews are as expected. Its a good movie but it doesn't top the second in the trilogy.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Going on Sunday! Cant wait

[mysterycolor]

saw this on Late Night with Jimmy Fallon...
http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/video/the-dark-knight-rises-trailer-with-pee-wee-herman-voices/1409279

[ZariusTwo]

The reviews are as expected. Its a good movie but it doesn't top the second in the trilogy.

The only reason there saying that is because Heath isnt in this one.

[Threat]

Midnight Tix for me tonight :) Can't wait!

Being 3 hours long I think will hurt it more than help it though, you know how most people are.

While it will do good, it will not even come close to Avengers number as some on here seem to daydream about. DTKR could be a better movie, there's no doubting that, but the target audience is so much smaller for these Nolan Batman films than Avengers is. Avengers is for anyone, even kids, which is why they got so much money, not to mention extra for the lame 3d gimmick. TDKR has no 3d to boost ticket prices, and it's not for kids. These Batman movies have been for more adult audiences.

[Leo656]

Yeah there was a surprisingly insightful article on Yahoo of all places saying essentially the same things. It's almost mathematically impossible for DKR to beat Avengers as far as dollars earned. The lack of 3D is going to be a big hit to the overall intake, selfishly I almost wish Nolan had caved and went for the gimmick. Its length may not be a factor in so far as being too long for people to sit through, but it IS a factor into how many times in one day it can be screened. Add in the fact that it's the third of a trilogy that's rather self-involved with several plot threads relying you to have seen the first two to make complete sense of things (I'm hearing that this one especially makes many references to Batman Begins), and that keeps it from being as approachable as Avengers. Yeah, people talk a ton about how well they wove some grand tapestry of storytelling through Iron Man, Thor etc., but really, most of the people who saw Avengers probably saw one or none of those other movies, they just wanted to be part of "The Event", and it wasn't like they were lost. It was easy to get into for women and kids, who I'm betting aren't going to care as much about DKR.

Most kids won't have seen one or both previous Batman films, and will be lost. I'm also hearing Batman isn't in-costume very much in this one, which will annoy the impatient types who don't care about the story. I remember one of the only things people complained about at the time Superman Returns came out was that there were too many long stretches where the main character was totally absent from the story. That stuff might not hurt initial ticket sales, but I'm betting it won't do quite as much repeat business because of it.

It's definitely gonna be a huge money-maker, around here a bunch of theaters are sold-out through Sunday already. And I could be wrong and good word of mouth could skyrocket this movie. Some critics who've seen it are (again) wondering if this might be the first super-hero film to win Best Picture. But I predict it'll fall short of Avengers monetary success and cross-over appeal, while simply succeeding at being a much deeper and overall better movie.

Midnight!

[Cure]

Rotten Tomatoes had to shut down the comments section because negative reviewers were getting death threats. Babies.

[Barkworm]

Babies.
More like retarded, fanboy dipsh*ts.

[Cure]

That, too.

[SS_Turtle]

Might have to go Friday night if not Sunday, can't wait to see the film!

[DonatelloFan]

Ooooooh man, it is good. Not 'Joker', Heath Ledger good, but it definitely is worth seeing. I'd recommend it to anyone. Very long (almost three hours), but kept my attention throughout the whole movie. I went to a midnight showing, by the way. First time ever doing that.

[Leo656]

HOLY. F*CKING. SH*T.

Hundreds of people packed the theater, every midnight showing sold out. People cheered, people laughed, people f*cking CRIED OUT LOUD, I've honestly never been a part of an opening night or midnight showing like this, not even for a comic book movie. I've especially never seen a comic book film that was so masterful at creating real emotion, and manipulating those emotions. The final 15 minutes of this movie are some of the most powerful moments I've ever seen on film, more so from a simple "comic book film".

So I'm not over-selling it, be clear: It's not the best comic book movie ever. In fact, I don't think it's even the best film in its trilogy. Further, I think it's the weakest individual film in the series, mostly because it is very much a Part 3, and its story completely could not have happened without the first two, and if you haven't seen the first two, many of the film's biggest and most emotionally powerful moments mean very little out of context. Also, if you are just out to see a summer super-hero flick, and have little or no knowledge of the Batman comics or mythology, this movie is almost a "don't bother". Its entire conceit is based on the fact that the audience is Batman fans, and specifically fans of this series in particular.

But if you ARE a huge Batman fan, if you DO read the comics, and if you want to be surprised by an amazingly simple yet complexely-layered story that creates way more real emotion that super-hero movies are "supposed" to do, this movie is BRILLIANT. It not only takes threads from each film and some of the most important parts of the Batman comic mythos, it reinterprets them and reimagines them into a storyline that not only stands beside the comic book stories, it actually SURPASSES them.

No, it is not "Knightfall" retold. I feel it's better, as it tells a much tighter story with a much stronger and more personal conflict between all the characters involved. In truth, the one long story told from "Batman Begins", through "The Dark Knight", and finally into "The Dark Knight Rises"... it just may be THE greatest Batman story ever told, if you take it as that. In its own universe, seperate from the books with its own identity, this is NOT three films any longer, it truly must be watched as a 9-hour epic which tells an almost PERFECT beginning, middle, and... resolution, of the Batman saga.

Each film does stand on its own to a degree, but only the first two can exist individually, and while this movie fails at being its own beast, it succeeds better than almost any Trilogy-Closer EVER at changing everything we thought we knew, flipping it on its head, and giving us more than what we wanted and still being able to surpise you, whether it's a cameo from a past film, a twist on a character we thought we knew, or the addition of things we weren't sure we would get to see in this series at all, in ways we didn't expect. It's "Return of the Jedi"/"Lord of the Rings"-caliber stuff. It's a rare Part 3 that not only ends the story, it makes each previous individual chapter BETTER by existing as it does.

I had the circumstances of hearing about some things I didn't want to know about in advance, but even when I knew what was coming, the way it was done was still a surprise. This movie deserved every bit of the standing, cheering ovation it got at the end. Is the story over? I guess time will tell on that one, but if it is... WHAT a f*cking story THAT was! The individual film, I don't feel, is "Best Picture" material, but I think this trilogy of films is going to live on in peoples' minds for decades to come as the "definitive" Batman saga. Comic fans, we officially have our "Star Wars Trilogy" of super-hero films. I would put this trilogy against any other in the history of film.

It "fails" next to Avengers in every way I predicted - a bit long, not a lot of in-costume super-heroing, a lack of light-hearted women and kid-friendly summer popcorn fare - but surpasses it entirely as a film. The acting and storytelling is amazing. Selina Kyle is perfect perfect PERFECT, as is Bane, just like with the Joker just *forget* what you think you know from the comics. These interpretations are perfect for the universe they exist in, and this is the best "Catwoman" ever, by far. I was a skeptic too. They nailed it.

Watch Begins and TDK, and go see this movie as fast as you can, and by God avoid spoilers. A+.

That said.... SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS......
I don't want to dissect the plot, but here are some things you might like to know...
-The letter Alfred burned, and the lie Batman and Gordon agreed to in order to save Gotham at the end of TDK, are a major part of the film's story.

-Ra's Al Ghul, The League of Shadows, and TALIA all play major roles, in ways you wouldn't expect.

-Johnathan Crane makes a cameo, but no "Scarecrow".

-Selina Kyle is never referred to as "Catwoman", but a newspaper clipping shows a headline like "The Cat Strikes Again", a reference to Batman #1 when Selina was called that before "Catwoman".

-Batman's breaking at the hands of Bane, and his recovery, aren't as dramatic as you might expect. In fact, they're both done a little too "matter-of-factly" for my taste, especially how quick Bruce recovers, but it's in there and as good as it can be in a 3-hour movie with this many subplots and characters. The movie clearly wants you to focus on other things, and does so to great effect.

-Not saying much, but the best fight scenes yet in the trilogy. Not as flashy or choreographed as comic films usually are, but at least you can see what's going on this time. It's frustrating and sad watching helplessly as Batman throws everything, literally everything he has at Bane, and it's nowhere near good enough, it literally does NOTHING to him. You know what's coming, and while it's not done complete with dramatic slo-mo, opera music and blood-curdling scream, the moment is built rather well in a realistic fashion.

A couple more Big Ones, last chance to turn back......
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- ROBIN. People stood up and cheered.

- Familiar with the more recent image from the comics, of BRUCE WAYNE's grave next to Thomas and Martha's gravesites at Wayne Manor......?

Yeah, anyway, lots of very audible crying and more than a few grown-ass men "coughing" in the audience during the last ten minutes. Regardless of how it all ends, let me say this: Bruce Wayne's final scene drew the most heartfelt ovation I've ever been part of at a film debut. The ending, for this story, was perfect.

It's not even close to a perfect movie, it's the "worst" in its own franchise and it's not as much fun as Avengers... but it's a beyond perfect ending to this Batman story. A f*cking Plus.

Oh incidentally they also had a "Man Of Steel" trailer. Looks amazing, suit looks better far away, tone is perfect. Let's see if WB can actually do for Superman what this series has done for Batman, namely surpass the source material and redefine what comic movies are supposed to be.

[That Matt Guy]

I got 12:35 am tickets at the last minute on a whim. I liked this movie a lot more than the Dark Knight, as it makes a lot of reference to Batman Begins which is still my personal favorite.

Some general thoughts/spoilers...

There were really no big surprises for me, a lot of the rumors turned out to be true so nothing really blew me away, but there were a lot of scenes though where I thought a character would die, such as Lucius Fox when that sewer started to flood or Batman right before Bane gets killed. A lot of people yelled stuff at the reveal of Talia and the entire audience laughed at her death scene, which was honestly one of the worst things in the movie. "My father's plan is now complete... uhh" it was like something out of a B movie. Everyone cheered at the Robin thing and when Alfred saw Bruce Wayne at the end. A lot of the Bane controlled Gotham stuff was almost exactly like No Man's Land if anyone is familiar with that storyline.

All the actors were great, Gordon got to do a lot which is always cool. It was hard to understand Bane at times, and his voice is amplified over everything else, soundtrack included, which I thought was weird.

[Slap-Happy]

More than 10 midnight showings at my theater. Everybody was evacuated from the building because they needed clearance from the fire department or something like that. So many people there. This will easily beat Avengers' midnight record at least.

I loved the movie though. That ending... Hoo boy...

What were everybody's crowd reactions to the Man of Steel trailer? It incited laughs in my theater.

[Leo656]

Much as I loved it I still don't see it making Avengers money. Especially without 3D prices factored in. Hope I'm wrong though, it's a more mature piece of work and deserves to be recognized commercially for being as good as it is.

Matt: Yeah I kinda thought right away that they over-reacted a bit to the criticisms of Bane's voice in the previews by amping it up WAY too much in spots. The very first time he speaks, for example, I was like "THAT's the voice nobody could understand? Gee whiz tone it down, buddy!" I thought it was fine for about 95% of his dialog, a very few spots I'm gonna need to see the flick again to hear it better but they were by far the few and I don't think it was anything plot-related that I missed.

"Man Of Steel" trailer? Unexpected, hushed silence. Reports said the trailer wasn't going to be seen until the "official" opening of DKR on Friday afternoon, so nobody at the midnight show was expecting to see it. Took us by surprise, afterwards mostly just "That looks pretty cool" sort of comments. I mean they didn't exactly show a whole lot. I don't like the suit, but it does look better from far away, flight scene was great, and the tone of the movie looks perfect for Superman. I know it's dumb and nitpicky, but if they'd just used a more classic version of the suit I'd be 100% on board, instead of just 95%.

[ZariusTwo]

Third act of TDKR in it's entirety. MAJOR SPOILERS



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[ToTheNines]

Yo! Went to the midnight showing and was blown away. I wasn't expecting much out of this, but I was so wrong.

Both of the fights with Bane were brutal. Very well done. Bane's voice was kind of cheesy, and I miss the latino accent, but they tied him in with the league of Shadows so it was acceptable that he was Siberian or whatever.

CATWOMAN. Anne stole the show, I think. I wasn't much excited about her either, but... wrong again. She nailed it perfectly, I'd really like to see her get voice work as Catwoman in the future.

The John Blake thing went in the direction I was hoping it wouldn't. I originally saw him as more of a Harvey Dent type of character.

I didn't mind him taking over the mantle at the end, but the "Robin" thing was just retarded. I actually might have enjoyed that part if his legal name was Jason Todd, Tim Drake or even Jean-Paul Valley. But his real name is Robin? So clever and realistic Nolan! :roll:

The worst part about the trilogy, at this point, is that Batman never amassed a decent rogues gallery. I envisioned the 8 year gap to be Bruce running himself ragged fighting Hush, Riddler, Penguin, Deadshot etc. But now all I have to toy with in my head is the one year gap between the first two and Robin John Blake and his merry band of orphans.

What was kind of messed up was how Talia and Bane were trying to destroy Gotham in the name of Ra's Al Ghul, even though, in my mind, he gave up at the of Begins because he decided Batman did have what it takes to save the city.

I could ramble for a good while longer, but I'll stop now lol.

[Raph's Girl]

I just have to say that I loved this movie. It's not my fave Batman film (nothing will EVER beat Mask of the Phantasm or Return of the Joker) but it'll be on the list for sure. Twas a surprise to see Chris Judge in it as one of the bad guys (an extremely minor role but I was like "Wait... is that...?" and the credits confirmed it).

Now a couple interesting points.

I basically figured out that Miranda was Talia near the beginning of the film. Yay for predictability! I kept on waiting for her to do her "turn" to the dark side... and her death scene was rather lame and bad acted. But hey... Talia finally made it to the big screen so... WOOT!

As for Det. Blake. In my mind as soon as he figured out that Batman and Bruce were the same person I kept on thinking "Oh...so he's gonna be Robin or Nightwing? I thought they said Robin wouldn't show up...." and then in the end when it was revealed his NAME is Robin I chuckled a bit.

As for Bane. Eh.. I could barely understand his muffling. It was a couple interesting twists with the character tho.

Oh and Catwoman. We never did figure out the full motive behind Selina wanting to disapear. But at least she wasn't a bad guy really. Sad that Holly was just a hanger on but nice that they included her just the same.


As for the Deadliest Catch: The Movie er uh Man of Steel trailer. Interesting to say the least. Got a couple cheers from the audience (which was packed). Im just curious as to what Deadliest Catch crew will be in the film now. :lol:

[Ninjinister]

Yo! Went to the midnight showing and was blown away.

Too soon :(

[ToTheNines]

Too soon :(

Woah, really didn't mean it like that.

[oldmanwinters]

Woah, really didn't mean it like that.

I didn't think so. Watching the movie, however, and thinking about all the victims, I couldn't help be wish we had more real-life heroes who could stand between the mad-men and the innocents.


CATWOMAN. Anne stole the show, I think. I wasn't much excited about her either, but... wrong again. She nailed it perfectly, I'd really like to see her get voice work as Catwoman in the future.

Agreed. I totally didn't expect to enjoy Hathaway's performance to the degree that I did. I feel bad about making fun of her costume/visor after the photos of that fight on the steps were leaked last year.


The John Blake thing went in the direction I was hoping it wouldn't. I originally saw him as more of a Harvey Dent type of character.

I didn't mind him taking over the mantle at the end, but the "Robin" thing was just retarded. I actually might have enjoyed that part if his legal name was Jason Todd, Tim Drake or even Jean-Paul Valley. But his real name is Robin? So clever and realistic Nolan! :roll:

"John Blake" struck me more as a "Tim Drake" (see it even rhymes!) than anything else. He doesn't have the athletic skill and acrobat experience that Dick Grayson had. And I don't really see how "Robin" is the full name for a guy named "John." But... whatever, I still loved that part. Especially, considering how much Nolan always said Robin would never appear in his Batman movies.


The worst part about the trilogy, at this point, is that Batman never amassed a decent rogues gallery. I envisioned the 8 year gap to be Bruce running himself ragged fighting Hush, Riddler, Penguin, Deadshot etc.

Yeah, after I first watched Batman Begins, I imagined that there were limitless possibilities for the future of Nolan's Bat-verse. I guess there's always some video games to fill in the gaps of the continuity (although TDK didn't even get a game!). But, I think the gravity of the Joker-Dent coverup and the death of Rachel were believable reasons as to why Batman would want to hold up forever.

[Raph's Girl]

"John Blake" struck me more as a "Tim Drake" (see it even rhymes!) than anything else. He doesn't have the athletic skill and acrobat experience that Dick Grayson had. And I don't really see how "Robin" is the full name for a guy named "John." But... whatever, I still loved that part. Especially, considering how much Nolan always said Robin would never appear in his Batman movies.

Det Blake's name is a play on Dick Grayson who's birth name is Richard John Grayson.

[oldmanwinters]

Det Blake's name is a play on Dick Grayson who's birth name is Richard John Grayson.

I actually didn't know that... but I still don't see the logic in it. Maybe "Detective Richard Johnson" might have worked better? :)

[ToTheNines]

I actually didn't know that... but I still don't see the logic in it. Maybe "Detective Richard Johnson" might have worked better? :)

Dick Johnson...

[The Stryker]

Thought it was pretty lame honestly. Can't really muster up any kind of care to really talk about it in detail though.

Lame.

[ZariusTwo]

All joking about the ending aside, here's my detailed take

It was much more like a sophisticated "Die Hard With A Vengeance", and a lot less grounded Batflick compared to Begins or Dark Knight. I missed Bruce's Tumbler, and didnt feel like "The Bat" gave anyone a fair shake at posing a threat to Bruce

Bruce and Talia's little get together felt random...and should have happened much later in the movie so the betrayal came across a little sharper and cruler at a more urgent time. That said, I loved the twist with revealing she was the child who rose from the pit and Bane was her guardian (in the comics, there lovers)

Alfred waiting eight years to tell Bruce about Bane is stretching it...yeah, I get this version of Alfred doesnt want to bury Bruce, but maybe if he had told Bruce the legends about Bane, Bruce would have been constantly on his guard and never brought himself to retire. Sadly, with the actors getting up there in age, Alfred and Fox were relegated to bit parts who did nothing, which is a shame because they are the wiser spirits of the Nolan films. I did like hearing Alfred's fantasy...even if it was a clear set-up to the Disney ending we got.

As for Selina...hmm, I liked her speech to Bruce at the ball and pilfering the peirls at the Manor, but didnt quite "feel" her wearing that outfit. It looked like something Fox could have come up with for her later on in the movie.

The two fights with Batsy and Bane were very good, one was a note perfect enactment of "Knightfall", complete with the back breaking, and another set up Talia's betrayal. It's just a shame Bane's fate is taken out of Bruce's hands when Selina comes in and guns Bane down.

Bruce had some serious "Star Wars" vibes going on in this...first the "fear is why you fail" guy and the vision of Ras' Al Ghul. Very impressive direction here with the attempts by many to rise from the pit. Good touch with the bats pouring out as Bruce makes his final attempt.

If I had to wager a guess, Bruce and Selina used the "Clean Slate" to go off the grid, allowing them to live out their lives without any prying eyes. I'm only guessing because the CS device was mentioned a lot, but nothing seemed to come of it after Selina agreed to help Bruce. The choice of ending is ballsy, as every comic fan worth their salt will be pouring Kool-Aid down their throat and proclaiming "BATMAN NEVER RETIRES", I guess they never read some stories where Golden Age Bruce settled down with Selina and produced Helena (aka Huntress)

And lastly...Robin. I called it the instant I saw him in the TRAILERS. The film leaves it open to whenever he'll become Batman or Nightwing (but Dick went from being Robin, to Nightwing, to Batman in the comics anyway), but the notion he will "rise" is a powerful one, and goes back to Bruce's idea that "Batman could be anyone", it allows the Nolan 'verse to live on without the director or Bale, if WB take up the option.

Overall, very entertaining movie despite some flaws. The movie got a standing ovation at the end, which in my area is pretty rare (British audiences are so more reserved than the wilder American moviegoes)

[Raphael86]

I honestly didn't care for this one. It had some good points, but I absolutely hated the ending.

Bruce's eight year exile made absolutely no sense to me. I had hoped that after eight years of working and perfecting his craft, he'd finally be the Dark Knight from the comic books - honing his detective skills, getting a new Tumbler in addition to the Batpod and having various villain paraphenalia for trophies to hint at other cases in the interim, etc. But most of all, I expected him to become darker and pushing himself harder like after Jason Todd's death in the comics as opposed to stopping all together and locking himself away to weep over his dead girlfriend.

As for the ending, I have always hated Batman Inc. IMO, only Bruce Wayne should ever wear the cape and cowl. Anything else is just not Batman to me.

As for the Superman trailer, I freaked. Looked better than I thought it would.

[Jelly Bean]

I was surprised at how much I liked Anne Hathaways catwoman. She was surprisingly very grounded and relaxed in the character, and all the little facial "ticks" Anne alway seems to do with all her characters she acts in. She didn't annoy me once. Although, I was confused as to why she was not some socialite like I've seen her be before. And who was the girl that was with her?

[Raphael86]

And who was the girl that was with her?

She's a character from Batman: Year One named Holly. She was a child prostitute in the comic that Selina took under her wing, obviously older here.

[Jelly Bean]

She's a character from Batman: Year One named Holly. She was a child prostitute in the comic that Selina took under her wing, obviously older here.

gasp!

you mean the Holly from this version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aJ2f46K3mo&feature=related

I thought she was jusat some random girl created for this animated short!

[Raphael86]

gasp!

you mean the Holly from this version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aJ2f46K3mo&feature=related

I thought she was jusat some random girl created for this animated short!

Yep, that's her. She was in the animated movie too.

[Cure]

This joint was pretty bangin'.

[oldmanwinters]

She's a character from Batman: Year One named Holly. She was a child prostitute in the comic that Selina took under her wing, obviously older here.

Heh, I kinda figured they were part-time lesbians on account of that one scene where they were getting a little intimate. I guess the ending suggested otherwise... maybe.

It was strange that they never told us what happened to her after the big conflict with Bane.

[ZariusTwo]

As for the ending, I have always hated Batman Inc. IMO, only Bruce Wayne should ever wear the cape and cowl. Anything else is just not Batman to me.

That's ridiculously selfish and shows why change-fearing comic book virgins shouldnt be listened to when making movies about these types of heroes.

I didnt mind the ending because I love legacy characters, I actually feel that if comics are to matter more in the future, they should move on from the old guard and embrace new characters, but the stubborness of comic book geeks won't let them try that.

Peter Parker is my favourite Spider-Man, but I learned a long time ago to move on from him because the other characters in the suit (Ben, Miguel, Mayday) were just as good as him. Ditto for Batman and characters like Dick and Terry taking up the mantle either breifly or permanently.

You're also missing the whole point of the movie

Bruce told Blake that he created Batman to be a symbol and a mythic character who "could be anyone". He long intended for it to carry on WITHOUT him in the event of death or retirement

Batman Inc is also one of the best ideas to come down the pipeline in a long time, it doesnt take anything away from Bruce and it creates fresh new characters that enrich the franchise.

[Raphael86]

That's ridiculously selfish and shows why change-fearing comic book virgins shouldnt be listened to when making movies about these types of heroes.

So...because I READ Batman, Inc. and because I didn't like it I'm a "selfish comic book virgin"? That's funny.

[Barkworm]

Why would a "comic book virgin" be "change fearing"? You're not making any sense, Zarius. Especially since Nolan and Bale seem to be the kind of people you are referring to (the ones who are not into the Batman family thing).

[ZariusTwo]

Why would a "comic book virgin" be "change fearing"? You're not making any sense, Zarius.

By "comic book virgin", I didnt mean "people who were unfamiliar with the comics". If you don't have the sligthest comprehension over what I meant by that..well I really have to laugh at that

Read the guy's post, which is basicly "Waaah, Bruce should only be Batman wahhhh", and you'll understand that I, as usual, make perfect sense.

[Cowabunga Carl]

Just got back. This is an amazing final chapter for Nolan. I don't want to see Nolan or Bale back, it would make the other movies feel cheap. A lot of options for WB.

[Brodie]

What a colossal waste of time.

Levitt was the best part. Bane's voice is a joke. Sounds like he escaped from the island of misfit toys.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Yeah Bane's voice was meh. My friend told me tonight he preffered the non-speaking Bane from Batman & Robin

Overall I did like this entry allot. Can't wait to see where we go from here if any where

[GK Punk]

What a colossal waste of time.

Levitt was the best part. Bane's voice is a joke. Sounds like he escaped from the island of misfit toys.

I seriously almost laughed when I heard Bane's voice the first time. A friend of mine asked me to tell her what I thought of the movie (She wasn't stoked to see it at all.) And all I told her was "Bane's voice sounded like a a Latin stage actor trying to do an imitation of Sean Connery using a Darth Vader voice box"

Despite that, I actually DID enjoy the movie, but to each their own I say.

[TheCanadiandrome]

I seriously almost laughed when I heard Bane's voice the first time. "Bane's voice sounded like a a Latin stage actor trying to do an imitation of Sean Connery using a Darth Vader voice box"


Sean Connery with marbles in his mouth

[oldmanwinters]

Batman fans = The only fan-base more whiny than TMNT fans!

:tcouch:

[Leo656]

Some folks could do a little more research before getting indignant...

Nolan has always been outspoken in his view that Bruce Wayne in this series has no intention of being Batman long-term. It's a central theme of the second film, how Bruce looks at Harvey as a way out, hoping that Dent's idealism can bring about a lasting change in Gotham and turn it into a city that does not need Batman. He doesn't carry the same obsession as he does in the comics.

In interviews before the film came out, Nolan specifically stated that he chose the film's ending for the reason it can never happen in the comics, and to illustrate the different types of stories films can tell vs. more serialized entertainment. The Batman comics are never-ending, if you give Bruce a "real" ending, either death or retirement, you have to undo it eventually via either retcon or reboot because most fans don't want anyone but Bruce in the suit. The films are a self-contained universe totally different from the comics (even though the tone is great), so you can take leaps into places the comics can't go.

I'm totally accepting that this Bruce Wayne wouldn't want to be Batman forever (no pun intended). These flicks have always been about "keeping it real" and that's not very realistic. Him dying also would have been a misfire, when they showed Bruce's grave a large portion of the audience was vocally upset, and were very happy when the twist was revealed. They did the right thing.

In my head, the Batman of the comics would probably never quit and would probably die in the line of duty, but I think movies can and should be different sometimes. In either case, I see someone else taking up the mantle after Bruce was gone. I'm happy with the ending.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Some folks could do a little more research before getting indignant...

Nolan has always been outspoken in his view that Bruce Wayne in this series has no intention of being Batman long-term. It's a central theme of the second film, how Bruce looks at Harvey as a way out, hoping that Dent's idealism can bring about a lasting change in Gotham and turn it into a city that does not need Batman. He doesn't carry the same obsession as he does in the comics.

In interviews before the film came out, Nolan specifically stated that he chose the film's ending for the reason it can never happen in the comics, and to illustrate the different types of stories films can tell vs. more serialized entertainment. The Batman comics are never-ending, if you give Bruce a "real" ending, either death or retirement, you have to undo it eventually via either retcon or reboot because most fans don't want anyone but Bruce in the suit. The films are a self-contained universe totally different from the comics (even though the tone is great), so you can take leaps into places the comics can't go.

I'm totally accepting that this Bruce Wayne wouldn't want to be Batman forever (no pun intended). These flicks have always been about "keeping it real" and that's not very realistic. Him dying also would have been a misfire, when they showed Bruce's grave a large portion of the audience was vocally upset, and were very happy when the twist was revealed. They did the right thing.

In my head, the Batman of the comics would probably never quit and would probably die in the line of duty, but I think movies can and should be different sometimes. In either case, I see someone else taking up the mantle after Bruce was gone. I'm happy with the ending.

all very good points

[joe-eyeball]

Overall I thought this movie was a huge disappointment. It tried way too hard to showcase profound themes that simply werent there. A very pretentious and overrated film.

Bane's voice sounded like the English accent Seth Green uses on an episode of Robot Chicken (laughable and stupid). At no point during the movie did Wayne and Kyle develop a believable connection to the point they would run off together into retirement. Also I felt many of the characters were wasted (Lucious Fox and Alfred). Finally the movie's runtime could have been cut by at least 20 minutes. If I felt like writing more I could easily come up with more gripes, but, oh well at last the first two movies were good. Must also mention the only performances in the movie that were quite good were by Hardy, Hathaway, and Gordon-Levitt.

[mysterycolor]

I had no problems with Bane's voice-heard every word he said and loved seeing him as the main villain. I was also pleasantly surprised by Anne Hathaway, as i was very skeptical of seeing her as cat woman. And of course, Pittsburgh looked great, though it was creepy to see what happened to Heinz field :)

[discordiatookie]

Thought it was excellent, and didn't have a problem with Bane's voice...

[The Stryker]

My problem with Bane's voice isn't that I didn't understand him. It's that he sounded like Sean Connery doing a dudley do right impression.

[TheCanadiandrome]

It's that he sounded like Sean Connery doing a dudley do right impression.

HAHAHA!!! :lol::lol::lol:

[Shreddhead]

I actually kind of liked Bane's voice. And im a pretty huge batman comic AND animated series fan. I just think the Vader filter was WAY too strong. there were a few times where i couldnt tell what the hell he was saying.

Loved the movie tho. Levitt was a very nice surprise and i feel like it wrapped up just about as well as any live action batman movie could. It left me extremely satisfied, was never boring, and made me want to see the next chapter of Gotham's protector which is the best ending possible imo. (though i cant say i want it to be made, it ends so well that any attempt to "jump back in" will probably be unfulfilling.

[AT-Man]

Only problem I had was with Batman's voice, when he yells at Bane and talks to Catwoman with The Voice even though she knows who he is and there's no one else around. Great movie otherwise.

"Do you FEEL in charge?"

[Barkworm]

I finally saw it yesterday. While a lot of the story details were either really, really dumb or didn't make any sense, I found myself thoroughly enjoying it. Calling it Oscar worthy is a bit of a stretch though.

[Leo656]

Depends, I think the Oscars should care more about rewarding movies that people actually watch rather than weepy independent stuff that nobody knows exists. By that standard DKR is better than most films that people define as "good".

Titanic won Best Picture and DKR is infinitely better than that movie, after all. Unless you were a 12 year old girl in 1997, in which case mileage may vary.

[Barkworm]

TDK was pretty great, Oscar worthy even, but this one? Not so much. It's a really well made film but the story is all over the place.

[Leo656]

I do agree that as its own work, Dark Knight Rises can't compare with either of the prequel films, mostly because without them as a backstory it falls apart. Just yesterday I overheard guys I work with talking about how bad it was, while admitting they never saw Batman Begins, which sort of makes DKR stop making anything resembling sense. You physically can't enjoy it without having watched the others recently, and that is a flaw any way you look at it. I'm forgiving of the problems since it was never going to be anything other than a Part 3, with all the problems they usually have.

Still better than most movies out this year and definitely anything that's out at the moment. Maybe not Oscar worthy, but I'm willing to bet if I watched whatever movie does go on to win Best Picture, I'm pretty sure DKR would still be better. But I'm in no way objective.

[shuriken]

My problem with Bane's voice isn't that I didn't understand him. It's that he sounded like Sean Connery doing a dudley do right impression.
I totally agree. It wasn't even the suave James Bond Sean Connery, but the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Sean Connery, 60 something and kind of jolly.
I swear anything would have made that voice more intimidating ( or maybe Nolan was trying to go for a Mike Tyson effect by making this big imposing man beast sound like a joke)
I disliked that Bruce was in hiding and stopped being Batman for such a long time, but whatever Rachel's death hit him hard.
Also 15 minutes of Batman kinda sucked, even if those 15 minutes provided some of the most brutal Batman fight scenes brought to the big screen.
Aside from those little nitpicks I enjoyed this movie quite a bit.
I liked the supporting cast (more than Batman himself this time around) and how it not only wrapped up all the loose ends quite nicely, but left it open for a new Batman to step up.

[Xav]

The worst part about the trilogy, at this point, is that Batman never amassed a decent rogues gallery. I envisioned the 8 year gap to be Bruce running himself ragged fighting Hush, Riddler, Penguin, Deadshot etc.But there was the direct-to-DVD anthology film Batman: Gotham Knight which takes place in the Nolan universe. It introduced characters like Killer Croc and Deadshot.

[Andrew NDB]

Both of the fights with Bane were brutal. Very well done. Bane's voice was kind of cheesy, and I miss the latino accent, but they tied him in with the league of Shadows so it was acceptable that he was Siberian or whatever.

There's actually nothing in the movie that says Bane is not Latino or from Santa Prisca.

TDKR was awesome. Everything I was hoping to see, I saw, and I'm itching to see it again.

[ToTheNines]

There's actually nothing in the movie that says Bane is not Latino or from Santa Prisca.

My point still stands, I miss the Latino accent over... ya know, what we got.

[Andrew NDB]

My point still stands, I miss the Latino accent over... ya know, what we got.

You miss it from what, the cartoons? For all we know, Bane sounds like Tom Hardy in the comics. As we saw in "Vengeance of Bane," Pena Duro (the prison in Santa Prisca he grew up in from birth to about 30) was pretty secular... lots of white guys (Bane's own right hand men, in fact... Zombie, Trogg, and Bird), and guys of many races. Since he was born there, it's not inconceivable that he'd have little or no distinctive Latin accent.

And "Santa Prisca" is basically a made-up version of Cuba, just like "Gotham City" is a made-up version of New York. And many, many Cubans look like regular white guys.

[Xav]

One thing I didn't get about Bane's plan. He wanted Bruce to watch Gotham blow-up and than he was gonna kill him. But it seems like he was gonna stay in the city until the bomb detonated. Are we really supposed to believe that Bane and all his men were suicidal?

[The Stryker]

Maybe he just didn't want to succeed at all. I mean, why else would he put Batman in the cell RIGHT NEXT to the doctor that saved him from sure death?

"I'm pretty sure these guys won't help you. Pretty sure. I'm also betting that you won't get back to Gotham from some middle eastern country with no money or identification in a month..... Alright by-eeeee!" He might as well have tied him up over a vat of acid.

[ToTheNines]

You miss it from what, the cartoons?

I know you hate animated adaptions, but yes, the cartoons.

And I take back what I said, I don't miss the Latino accent, I just miss him not sounding totally corny.

Either way, I still think the movie rocks.

[Shreddhead]

One thing I didn't get about Bane's plan. He wanted Bruce to watch Gotham blow-up and than he was gonna kill him. But it seems like he was gonna stay in the city until the bomb detonated. Are we really supposed to believe that Bane and all his men were suicidal?

I assumed that Bane's followers were either members of The League of Assassins or wanna be members that followed Bane. Their ideology is pretty much do what master says for the good of the master's plan. You saw in the beginning how the one dude was totally cool with staying in the crashing plane so there would be the right amount of bodies.

[CyberCubed]

I just realized Batman in costume only appears in 3 scenes of the entire movie. The first part where he comes back to Gotham for the first time chasing Bane on the motorcycle....the second scene which is essentially Batman Vs. Bane with him losing...and then basically the climax of the movie.

Way too little actual Batman in this movie.