Jessica Jones tv series

[Raph's Girl]

http://insidetv.ew.com/2010/12/17/melissa-rosenberg-aka-jessica-jones/

Twilight screenwriter Melissa Rosenberg is planning to bring Marvel superhero, Jessica Jones, to television, according to Variety. AKA Jessica Jones is being considered for ABC’s slate next fall, and Brian Michael Bendis, who created the comic-book series in 2001 (it was originally titled, Alias), will be a consultant for the show.

The scary part about this article..... TWILIGHT screenwriter...They should just make a Heroes for Hire tv series.

[The Stryker]

I think the bigger problem is that Bendis is working on it.

[Candy Kappa]

The Twilght Screen-Writer and Bendis... must be a joke

[cqb101]

AKA Jessica Jones? Really? That sounds horrible. I liked it better when they were calling it Alter Ego. This is too bad. Give Alias to a good showrunner, throw it on a network like FX (where Bendis' other work, Powers is getting a show), and it could be great. Alias would lend itself great to a gritty noir show. Oh well.

[Raph's Girl]

Krysten Ritter has officially been cast as Jessica Jones who apparantly also goes by the name of Julia.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=57540

[NinjaPug]

I like Ritter but out of the finalists I was really hoping Dadarrio got the part.

[Davetello]

Ahh, I remember her from Breaking Bad. She was good in the show, let's hope she's good in JJ.

[plastroncafe]

Jones always seemed a bit more...solid, physically, than Ritter is. She's kind of waify and willowy.

I've got to give the Twilight screenwriter some credit, they took some really horrid source material and did something with it. That's way better than a lot of past comic movies and book adaptations have gotten.

[TigerClaw]

Here's the teaser for the Jessica Jones series, the show is set to premiere on November 20th.

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[plastroncafe]

Yup. I will be watching the ever living daylights out of this show.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Most definitely.

[Autbot_Benz]

I am only watching this show cause David Tennant is a villain and he is one of my favorite actors. Other than that I don't know jack about J Jones

[plastroncafe]

The comic is well worth the read, though warning: It's from the darker/edgier Marvel Universe intended for mature audiences. So...read at your own risk.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Finally got a chance to watch that teaser, and holy hell, I really love Marvel's dark edgy TV. This looks right up my alley, just like Daredevil. Can't WAIT.

Also, about time we got an edgy badass protagonist who was a woman. Maybe Marvel will beat Wonder Woman to the punch after all...

[NinjaPug]

Out of the 4 Marvel Netflix series announced this was the one I was most excited about. I know what I'll be doing over the Thanksgiving holiday.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Out of the 4 Marvel Netflix series announced this was the one I was most excited about. I know what I'll be doing over the Thanksgiving holiday.

Before Daredevil, I didn't trust them to pull this off. But if Marvel can create a serious morally-conflicted shades-of-gray real-world comic-book-story once (Daredevil), then why not again? :tgrin:

[ToTheNines]

Hell yeah, finally can mark my calendar.

[TurtleTitan97]

I'm really looking forward to it. Loved the Alias comics.

[chrisdude]

Very excited for this. Hopefully, I'll have that weekend off, and binge like a mofo. If it's half as good at the book, I won't be able to stop.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Read the five-issue Purple Man confrontation, couldn't get into any of the other "Alias" storyarcs... I think Jessica Jones is awesome, though, and can't wait to see this translated to screen. :grin:

[chrisdude]

When I heard the premise for the show, I read the first issue, then I ordered the Alias omnibus. I enjoyed the last She-Hulk run, which revolved around She-Hulk's law firm, and I figured I'd like Alias. Turned out better than I expected. I actually have the Pulse follow-up series in the mail from Amazon. Jones might be one of my new favorite characters.

It's funny. Kristen Ritter was my fan pic for Jessica Drew. But I think she can pull this off.

[NinjaPug]

Some official pictures were released today. Guess they're going with purple clothing instead of purple skin for Kilgrave.

https://i.imgur.com/WHWd9Vz.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/4WEnBdD.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/y7ayUyJ.jpg

[plastroncafe]

Well HELLO THAR Luke Cage....

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

When do we get a trailer!?

[Cure]

That is one busty man.

[chrisdude]

http://i.imgur.com/HANd1N4.jpg
Let's not forget one my favorite Marvel characters, Patsy Walker. Now, Trisha Walker, presumably because Patsy is an old person nickname for Patricia...

[ToTheNines]

So the comics... I'm not a very big Bendis fan but I've heard great things about the Alias run. You guys all recommend them?

[TurtleTitan97]

So the comics... I'm not a very big Bendis fan but I've heard great things about the Alias run. You guys all recommend them?

I'd recommend it. It's definitely a good read, imo.

[NinjaPug]

So the comics... I'm not a very big Bendis fan but I've heard great things about the Alias run. You guys all recommend them?

I'd recommend them. Outside of Alias and Powers I'm not a fan of Bendis either.

[ZariusTwo]

Bendis is poison to team books (Avengers, Guardians, X-Men), but he usually works well on solo hero titles

[chrisdude]

New teaser. I guess this is the third?
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EDIT:
Teasers 1 and 2, because they don't seem to be here.
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[ToTheNines]

Purple Man teaser

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Also, here's a free prequel web comic. Daredevil cameo...
https://www.comixology.com/Marvels-Jessica-Jones-1/digital-comic/293999

[NinjaPug]

Best teaser yet. The marketing for this has been great so far.

I really hope we get a full trailer with the NYCC panel on Saturday.

[TigerClaw]

Here's the full trailer.

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[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Watched it twice already... looks SUPER DARK. So freaking excited! :tgrin:

Man, imagine if all of Marvel's films were as good as this or Daredevil... :tsad:

[NinjaPug]

Man that looks even better than I was hoping for. Ritter and Tennant were great casting choices.

[TurtleTitan97]

Pretty sweet trailer.

[NinjaPug]

I'm curious what the timeline of Jessica being a superhero is going to be in relation to the MCU.

[plastroncafe]

Me too, considering in the comics she's a contemporary of Peter Parker's...but he's going to be a kid in the MCU.

[Raph's Girl]

I'm curious what the timeline of Jessica being a superhero is going to be in relation to the MCU.

Well we know it's set after Daredevil Season 1 but we don't know yet if the events in the most recent Marvel films will be mentioned.

And after seeing Tennant being all sorts of creepy in that trailer..um... er :tcouch:

[NinjaPug]

Well we know it's set after Daredevil Season 1 but we don't know yet if the events in the most recent Marvel films will be mentioned.


I know it takes place after DD. I'm curious when her time as Jewel took place.

Fitting her past into the MCU timeline has been my biggest concern with this show.

[chrisdude]

Well, it seems she and Cage are meeting for the first time. Jewel's time can fit pretty much anywhere since the Avengers Initiative started, so they've got several years to work with. Her time should be well before the events of Daredevil. We can forget about all that Peter Parker stuff. Heck, I don't know if they even inked the Spider-Man deal in time for the Bugle to make it into the show...

The funny thing is, Jewel could've fought in the Battle of New York, for all we know. It doesn't really matter where they fit her in, because everyone forgot about her. I'd love to see them do a flashback to her being involved in something huge, like we just never noticed she was there.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Second trailer:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=126818

Ten more days, friends...

[Foombamaroom]

Is it weird that the second trailer made me a little less hyped for the series?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Is it weird that the second trailer made me a little less hyped for the series?

Were you my son, I would disinherit you for those words. :tlol:

(C'mon, the trailer song is wicked!)

[Foombamaroom]

Were you my son, I would disinherit you for those words. :tlol:

(C'mon, the trailer song is wicked!)

I know, but I liked the tone of the first trailer much more.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I know, but I liked the tone of the first trailer much more.

It did have much more mind control, suicide, and darkness.

The first trailer set the tone, the second one better shows off Jessica. I like 'em both.

Man, one week! We are down to one week away!

[Foombamaroom]

It did have much more mind control, suicide, and darkness.

The first trailer set the tone, the second one better shows off Jessica. I like 'em both.

Man, one week! We are down to one week away!

I think I'm a little more excited for this than I was for Daredevil. This looks so damn good.

[TurtleTitan97]

It did have much more mind control, suicide, and darkness.

The first trailer set the tone, the second one better shows off Jessica. I like 'em both.

Man, one week! We are down to one week away!

Yep, totally hyped for this!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I think I'm a little more excited for this than I was for Daredevil. This looks so damn good.

I'm definitely more hyped for Jessica Jones than Daredevil. And Daredevil was balls-to-the-walls amazing.

[PangolinFeets]

I'm really looking forward to this. My friend who works at Central Park caught a few filmings.

[ZariusTwo]

Killgrave moves in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwIXFaaHK7w

[ZariusTwo]

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[TLP]

Is it ready? Is it?! :tgrin:

EDIT: Nope....still got another 26 minutes.

[Candy Kappa]

I know it takes place after DD. I'm curious when her time as Jewel took place.

Fitting her past into the MCU timeline has been my biggest concern with this show.

Considering Jessica Jones when she was Jewel was missing for 6-8 months under Purple Man's control. No one missed her, her parents never filed a missing report and the Avengers didn't look for her.

She could easily in MCU been a low-key street hero, which she was and flew under the radar. Much similar to how Ant-Man was a near Urban Legend after the 1960's.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Today's the day! Huzzah!

[Amaranthus]

I have no interest in watching this, but holy sh*t Tennant's character is so awesome.

[turtlefanforever]

Started watching this morning. Couldn't get into it. i had no background on the character or any attachment to it whatsoever going into watching the show. Which is probably the best way to go about watching anything, but not my cup of tea.

It's clearly well done and there's a lot of effort put into the series but i didn't like it. So whoever likes this series enjoy.

[AT-Man]

Tennant stole the damn show. A great series, I might like it even more than Daredevil.

[Cure]

Yeah, I'm not into it as much, either. It's good enough for me to wanna keep going, I guess, but I'm not compelled. I'm two episodes in.

[NinjaPug]

Considering Jessica Jones when she was Jewel was missing for 6-8 months under Purple Man's control. No one missed her, her parents never filed a missing report and the Avengers didn't look for her.

She could easily in MCU been a low-key street hero, which she was and flew under the radar. Much similar to how Ant-Man was a near Urban Legend after the 1960's.

The series answered this question pretty easily. She never became Jewel.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

On Episode 4, and you guys are crazy. This show is amazing.

Marvel's first (and successful) psychological horror story. Kilgrave's sadism is terrifying. He stole both of a guy's f***ing kidneys and then left him to die.

I never knew David Tennant could play a monster. I'm curious if this will permanently influence my feelings on the 10th Doctor in any slight way. :tlol:

[ToTheNines]

I finished last night and I absolutely loved it. All the major characters were awesome, I just hated her neighbors after a while. They were funny at first, but once they got involved in the plot, I was so over them.

They changed a ton about Kilgrave from the comics, but it was pretty much all for the better, he was so evil, but still funny. I thought he was a way better villain than Kingpin.

Overall, this was better than Daredevil for me. Being a huge kung fu/ninja movie fan, DD's action was right up my alley and superior to what we got in JJ, but DD got boring during episodes 10-12, and ended pretty well. This show kept me entertained the whole time.

Plus, you just gotta love a fellow Turkey drinker.

[TurtleTitan97]

I finished it last night as well. Great stuff, loved it from start to finish.

[Cure]

DD's action was right up my alley and superior to what we got in JJ,

Yeah, Holy Hell. It's a good thing this show doesn't have many fight scenes in the first place, because they are laughably bad. And that scene where she loses her ish on that married couple is more awkward than intense. It felt like there was weird ADR going on or something.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'd give JJ 4 out of 5 stars. The ONLY complaint I have with the series is the pointless continued inclusion of the Incest Twins. They are annoying, they serve no purpose after one of them cuts his own throat, and I hate them.

Terrible "comedy relief" is a staple of bad Marvel movies, and should have been cut out of this series. Because of it, I sadly have to say that I prefer Daredevil to Jessica Jones...

With the caveat that I liked Jessica, Simpson, Malcolm, Luke Cage, Trish, and Kilgrave more than the main cast of Daredevil (and I loved Karen, Murdock, Foggy, Urich, and Fisk).

[Foombamaroom]

I'd give JJ 4 out of 5 stars. The ONLY complaint I have with the series is the pointless continued inclusion of the Incest Twins. They are annoying, they serve no purpose after one of them cuts his own throat, and I hate them.

Terrible "comedy relief" is a staple of bad Marvel movies, and should have been cut out of this series. Because of it, I sadly have to say that I prefer Daredevil to Jessica Jones...

With the caveat that I liked Jessica, Simpson, Malcolm, Luke Cage, Trish, and Kilgrave more than the main cast of Daredevil (and I loved Karen, Murdock, Foggy, Urich, and Fisk).

Killgrave was EASILY my favorite in the show. And I agree with the stuff you said about the twins. Everytime they were on screen towards the latter half of the season, I skipped their scenes.

I'm waiting for a meme of the guy to pop up like. "I wanted to get a girl to like me, so I gave that bitch banana bread. Bitches love banana bread."

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Killgrave was EASILY my favorite in the show. And I agree with the stuff you said about the twins. Everytime they were on screen towards the latter half of the season, I skipped their scenes.

I'm waiting for a meme of the guy to pop up like. "I wanted to get a girl to like me, so I gave that bitch banana bread. Bitches love banana bread."

Kilgrave legitimately terrified me. I was in the shower alone and saw a dark shadow to my right, looked exactly like one of Jessica's hallucinations in the first few episodes.

Didn't slip and fall, survived my Kilgrave trauma. Can I join the Kilgrave support group now? :tlol:

Oh, and did anyone else think they should have just thrown out the guy who gave Kilgrave his coat? Yeah, bro, you've really suffered. :trolleye:

[plastroncafe]

Finally finished the entire series last night.
Wow, Kilgrave was basically The Doctor as written by Reddit. All he was missing was a trilby.

There was so much about this show that I loved.
The casting. The Acting. The focus on the Female Gaze. To its unapologetic politics.

It took me a long time to get into it, and to be honest I don't really know that I was ever 100% engaged, but that's more because it's the first property being tackled by the MCU that I knew about before hand.

I'd never read an issue of Avengers, Daredevil, IronMan, Thor, or Hulk before seeing any of those movies. I was always more of an X-Universe Marvel person, so the changes they made to those characters didn't really phase me. Jessica Jones, on the other hand....that I knew, and knew well.

I really can't wait to see what happens next.

[NinjaPug]

Good news. Renewed for Season 2.

http://tvline.com/2016/01/17/jessica-jones-renewed-season-2-netflix/

[TurtleTitan97]

Just saw the news on another site. Sweet!

[Foombamaroom]

YES.
This is amazing news. Jessica Jones and Daredevil were easily the best new shows of 2015.

[ToTheNines]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/jessica-jones-adds-the-returned-showrunner-as-executive-producer

Don't know where they got this information, but they mention at the end of this article that season 2 is expected to air this Fall.

I really hope not, I would rather they hurry up and get to The Defenders and do JJ season 2 first thing after that. Either way, I'm fine with them doing 3 shows a year.

[AT-Man]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/jessica-jones-adds-the-returned-showrunner-as-executive-producer

Don't know where they got this information, but they mention at the end of this article that season 2 is expected to air this Fall.

I really hope not, I would rather they hurry up and get to The Defenders and do JJ season 2 first thing after that. Either way, I'm fine with them doing 3 shows a year.

There's no way it's airing this fall, but I wouldn't be against 3 seasons a year.

[ToTheNines]

The buffoons around here reminded me that today's April Fools, so maybe this was a joke.

[Cure]

The buffoons around here reminded me that today's April Fools, so maybe this was a joke.

It's not really "out there" enough for a joke. Probably just a mistake.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

It's not really "out there" enough for a joke. Probably just a mistake.

Luke Cage airs this September but Jessica Jones aired November last year... so if JJ Season 2 gets an equally late fall / winter release (say early December) I could see it happening.

Which is SWEET. Most of you don't agree with me, but I preferred Jessica Jones to either season of Daredevil. And I loved me some Daredevil...

[ToTheNines]

Season 2 is filming back to back with The Defenders.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/jessica_jones/krysten-ritter-reveals-that-jessica-jones-season-2-and-the-a141552

[NinjaPug]

Season 2 is filming back to back with The Defenders.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/jessica_jones/krysten-ritter-reveals-that-jessica-jones-season-2-and-the-a141552

That's good news. Hopefully that means we get 3 Marvel series in 2017.

[ToTheNines]

Hopefully. Orange is the New Black is one of their most popular shows and it comes out in June normally, so I could see them releasing Defenders in August or so.

[Autbot_Benz]

Jessica Jones season 2 all episodes directed by women
http://www.cbr.com/jessica-jones-sea...en/?view=lista

SJW's and feminists rejoice only women directors are directing the second season.

[Andrew NDB]

Jessica Jones season 2 all episodes directed by women

Just for the sake of it, not for the director(s) who is the most appropriate/most qualified available? Dumb.

[TurtleTitan97]

As long as the episodes are good, I could care less about the genders of the directors.

[turtlefanforever]

but the thread title. Can it really be considered a tv series if it's on a streaming service? I could see "the show" or "the series" but tv series? seems like a stretch.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

It's on your television, ain't it?

[AT-Man]

Dicks out for Jessica Jones!

[ToTheNines]

Just for the sake of it, not for the director(s) who is the most appropriate/most qualified available? Dumb.

Like Anthony Mackie once said, "They didn't get a horse to direct Seabiscuit".

[plastroncafe]

but the thread title. Can it really be considered a tv series if it's on a streaming service? I could see "the show" or "the series" but tv series? seems like a stretch.

It's an interesting print. I wonder if there's any way to calculate what screen folks stream to more:tsad.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Like Anthony Mackie once said, "They didn't get a horse to direct Seabiscuit".

Neigh, sir, they did not! :trazz:

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Neigh, sir, they did not! :trazz:

Okay, that one was bad, even for you. :lol:

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Okay, that one was bad, even for you. :lol:

By definition, there is no such thing as a GOOD pun. :tcool:

[plastroncafe]

By definition, there is no such thing as a GOOD pun. :tcool:

But there is a such thing as a GREAT pun.

[turtlefanforever]

It's an interesting print. I wonder if there's any way to calculate what screen folks stream to more:tsad.

even if they did stream primarily onto their tvs doesn't make it a tv series, you could get away with calling it an internet tv series though.

[Cure]

even if they did stream primarily onto their tvs doesn't make it a tv series

Yes, it does. You're the only one making a thing about it.

[turtlefanforever]

Yes, it does. You're the only one making a thing about it.

would you consider a netflix original a made for tv movie then? you must by your logic.

[Cure]

Haha, sure. I'm not arguing something so simple with you.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Get a room, you two. You can waterboard each other to your heart's content.

Meanwhile... Jessica Jones.

[Cure]

What about anything that's being said by anyone seems comparable to "waterboarding" to you? It's barely an argument.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Reading turtlefanforever's bizarre, whiny nitpicking almost felt like waterboarding.

[ToTheNines]

Reading turtlefanforever's bizarre, whiny nitpicking almost felt like waterboarding.

Lol, every time.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

What about anything that's being said by anyone seems comparable to "waterboarding" to you? It's barely an argument.

Well, now your lack of understanding of humor, exaggeration, and satire feels like I'm being waterboarded.

But I just showed my wife my Google Hangouts transcript for the day in which I was devastatingly witty, and she just gave me the look. Maybe I'm not funny. I don't know what to believe anymore.

...

No, Alex Jones jokes will always be funny. And they'll be even funnier when they lead into 50 Shades of Gray jokes. I believe in me! It's funny to me, damn it!

"Dying is easy; comedy is hard."

[Cure]

Sure thing, champ.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Sure thing, champ.

You can't hide your love for me, pallie. I know you feel it.

...

Dang, now I'M driving the thread off the rails. :trazz:

[Autbot_Benz]

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/tv/ma...lgrave-a153252

Killgrave is back

[chrisdude]

Bah. I'd rather she not be defined by him.

[Andrew NDB]

Bah. I'd rather she not be defined by him.

I don't think she will be. It's not like Kingpin's appearance in Daredevil season 2 was a blight on Daredevil. Plus the smart money is on him being a pesky ghost/hallucination.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Bah. I'd rather she not be defined by him.

That WAS kinda the point of Season 1. Everything in her life was defined by Kilgrave and her resultant trauma...

[plastroncafe]

Where as, I'm hoping, that season 2 will be about her facing the trauma itself.
And to do that, we still need The Purple Man.

[ToTheNines]

I announced in the Daredevil thread that season one of JJ was getting a home release, but right now Walmart has it like 10 dollars cheaper than anyone else: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Jessica-Jones-The-Complete-First-Season-Blu-ray/636055340?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&adid=22222222228000000000&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=42423897272&wl4=aud-310687321802:pla-51320962143&wl5=9009153&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=636055340&wl13=&veh=sem

[PApagreg]

Trailer for Season 2, looks like the budget went up a bit
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[Spike Spiegel]

Looks kind of...generic in comparison to the source material. I still haven't gotten around to sampling the first season. :ohwell:

[Andrew NDB]

Is it too much to hope they show her flying at least once?

Looks kind of...generic in comparison to the source material. I still haven't gotten around to sampling the first season. :ohwell:

Yeah, there's not much in that trailer to really get excited about.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Awesome. March 8... sounds like Jessica is going to beat Daredevil to the screen next year!

[plastroncafe]

Looks kind of...generic in comparison to the source material. I still haven't gotten around to sampling the first season. :ohwell:

I love the show, love it to pieces in fact, but it doesn't hold a candle to the source material.

What the show has is one of the best explored and realistically depicted explorations of PTSD and assault I've seen.

I'm super stoked for season 2.
(Because I'm a sucker for a Reluctant Hero in the Midst of an Existential Crisis.

[Shark_Blade]

I love this series. Really surprised by how good it was, the lead actress got me hooked.

Hope the second season will be good too.

[Autbot_Benz]

Was really hoping Luke Cage or DD would be first back. Jessica Jones was Boring save for Luke Cage and Tennant's purple man. Not that excited for it

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

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Full trailer for Season 2.

[Shark_Blade]

Can't wait!

[Andrew NDB]

That trailer's way better.

[ProactiveMan]

I'm late to this Netflix thing, so I only started watching the first season two weeks ago. I would have been hyped for season 2 about three episodes ago, but I'm not so sure anymore. What the hell happened? Was there a gas leak in the writers' room or something? It started off really strong but then around episode 7 everyone drops about 20 IQ points.

[Autbot_Benz]

ya I have to say Season 2 looks like its gonna be way better than the first season.

[Andrew NDB]

ya I have to say Season 2 looks like its gonna be way better than the first season.

I remain skeptical. The Defenders trailers looked like the best thing ever.

[plastroncafe]

I'm with Glen Weldon on this, that trailer hit bad superhero Bingo really early on. I prefer the first one.

[ProphetofGanja]

This comes out in early March? I'm excited. As long as they stay faaar away from The Hand, I think this will be a good season.

The other Marvel Netflix shows need to really think about what direction they want to go in

[NinjaPug]

I hope this season has some standalone episodes where she's working random, one-off cases. My problem with some of the Marvel Netflix shows is they stretch a 6 episode story over a 13 episode season that once you hit episode 5 it starts spinning it's wheels until the last episode or two.

[plastroncafe]

Agreed!
Though I haven't really found that this is the case with the Punisher.

[Andrew NDB]

Agreed!
Though I haven't really found that this is the case with the Punisher.

It's almost the opposite problem. If anything, I would have loved to have seen more Punishers wedged within the first 10 minutes of the first episode.

[Cure]

It's almost the opposite problem. If anything, I would have loved to have seen more Punishers wedged within the first 10 minutes of the first episode.

Yeah, the first ten minutes is just a montage of him murdering people on his list, right? I agree, then.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

It's almost the opposite problem. If anything, I would have loved to have seen more Punishers wedged within the first 10 minutes of the first episode.

Same here.

[plastroncafe]

Yeah, but I'm not watching The Punisher for bodies hitting the floor. I'm watching it for the nuanced portrayal of post-traumatic stress disorder.

[Autbot_Benz]

The Second Season isn't getting good reviews. Its being called slow and boring with bad pacing. Reddit has been tearing it apart saying its worse than Iron Fist.

[plastroncafe]

Bad pacing could be an issue for me, but I'm pretty sure slow and boring won't be. I love me a good character study.

[Andrew NDB]

I hope that's not code for, "Sorry, folks... she still doesn't really use any of her powers."

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Bad pacing could be an issue for me, but I'm pretty sure slow and boring won't be. I love me a good character study.

The Second Season isn't getting good reviews. Its being called slow and boring with bad pacing. Reddit has been tearing it apart saying its worse than Iron Fist.

All those reviews are critiquing only the first five episodes. At least the ones I've seen.

I'm okay for a slow burn; I'm invested enough in Jessica, Malcolm, and Trish.

[Krutch]

Only two episodes in but I'm enjoying what I'm seeing.

Speaking of enjoying what I'm seeing...

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/11/13/arts/13ritter1/15ritter1-blog427.jpg

Sweet baby Jesus is Krysten Ritter ever a stunner. It's all actually a bit distracting from the story :P

[Andrew NDB]

I just hate to keep hitting the same mark, but... if "Supergirl" on CW can have the titular character flying around smashing bad guys on a weekly basis, "Jessica Jones" can have Jessica Jones doing the same thing. Once in a while. I'm just saying, once in a while. There's really no excuse, certainly not of a budgetary nature. Jessica has the powers, and this isn't season 1. I get that the show is trying to keep her as a low key thing, but this why the payoff would be far greater when she actually does it.

Punisher and Daredevil and Luke Cage get to embrace their full powers and comic book potential... why doesn't Jessica Jones? What's the problem?

[Krutch]

I just hate to keep hitting the same mark, but... if "Supergirl" on CW can have the titular character flying around smashing bad guys on a weekly basis, "Jessica Jones" can have Jessica Jones doing the same thing. Once in a while. I'm just saying, once in a while. There's really no excuse, certainly not of a budgetary nature. Jessica has the powers, and this isn't season 1. I get that the show is trying to keep her as a low key thing, but this why the payoff would be far greater when she actually does it.

Punisher and Daredevil and Luke Cage get to embrace their full powers and comic book potential... why doesn't Jessica Jones? What's the problem?

Beats me. That being said, I don't ever find myself "missing" her powers or wishing she'd use them more frequently just for the sake of using them. The storytelling is more investigative mystery than vigilante justice ala Daredevil and Luke Cage.

I also think you're allowed to take certain liberties with lesser known characters like Jessica Jones. Like, I have no idea how similar the TV series is to the comics (I imagine not terribly close) but I love the broken, alcoholic Veronica Mars vibe I get from the show. If it were just another superpower showcase show like Flash, Black Lightning, Legends, Arrow, Supergirl, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Daredevil... it might lose alot of it's own identity. I think it was a good call throwing in something different to the glutton of superhero shows. All just my opinion of course.

[plastroncafe]

How many times does Jessica have to tell people she's not a superhero for people to realize that she's not a superhero?

This isn't that kind of show.

[Andrew NDB]

How many times does Jessica have to tell people she's not a superhero for people to realize that she's not a superhero?

This isn't that kind of show.

Of course she's not a superhero. She just really doesn't ever want to use her powers/TPTB don't want to show us her ever using her powers. Strangely.

[Krutch]

Finished season 2.

Quick random spoilery thoughts...

Overall, really dug it. I liked alot of the challenges and themes present in this season. I was worried after the dip in quality in Marvel's Netflix shows this would be another miss, but thankfully Jones lands another winning season.

I love Kristyn Ritter's take on Jessica Jones. I'm unfamiliar with the comics so I can only take it as what I see on the show, but her tortured soul/always running on survival mode/keeping everyone at a distance is a favorite archtype of mine. Seeing her confront her own demons and asking who she really wants to be was compelling and alot of nuances were given in the performance. Good stuff.

Malcom was awesome. It was great seeing him step up and really take control of his life. I felt a little cheated that Malcom taking a puff of the inhaler and running in fear lead to...absolute nothing but otherwise he was a huge consistant highlight throughout the thirteen episodes. Hope to see him grow as a professional advasary of Jones next season.


Hogart's storyline is great - it's always nice to see how someone high and mighty feels when faced with mortality. For characters as rigid and cold as Hogart is, there was a real nice sense of growth from her this season.

The villain of this season is no Kilgrave, and I think people expecting another clear-cut villain will leave a bit disappointed. Both Jessica and Alisa flip-flop on where they stand with each other which leads to a more internal struggle as opposed to chasing down the big bad. Alisa was a very intriguing villain that could have came off as pretty hammy but the writing and performances keep it grounded.

The main thing I had an issue with this season is without question Trish's storyline. From the get-go, everything seemed very contrived. There's a missing piece somewhere in her story. On paper, yes, I get that she was feeling weak growing up with a superpowered sister and a domineering mother. And I get that last season she was assaulted, learned how to fight - just to get her ass kicked again, so, I kind of understand her desire for superpowers. But her taking that first puff felt so unnecessary and out of nowhere, everything which follows feels kind of unearned.

After the mid-season reveal that the killer is Jessica's mother, the rest of the season felt pretty predictable. Did anyone honestly not see Hogart getting screwed over? Can anyone say they didn't see Trish's master plan was to get the doctor to perform on her?

That being said, I assumed the finale was going to inevitably pit Jessica in a situation where she had to choose between her mother and Trish, leading Jess to kill her mother. Thankfully, they went a more satisfying route which should have strong consequences going into season three.
Season 1 of Jessica Jones remains at the top of the list of Marvel's Netflix series to me, but Season 2 has alot going for it and delivers another satisfying entry. Looking forward to season 3.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm 5 episodes in... though I haven't watched any new ones in 3 days. I will, but I don't feel much a pull to. Do things pick up after this point, or is it all kind of samey?

[Krutch]

If memory serves, the season's big reveal takes place at the end of episode 6. (miiiiight be 7, but i'm pretty sure its 6)

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I haven't had time to start this, but I am reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally looking forward to it! Hopefully start tonight...

[Autbot_Benz]

Episode 7 is the big reveal and it was a hell of a backstory

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Hell, Episode 2's ending is enough of a hook to guarantee I'm interested. (Even Episode 1... we're investigating IGH, what more do people want? :tsmile: )

[Andrew NDB]

Dumb question: since after The Defenders, Jessica Jones' powers are known and she is hiding very much in plain sight... how come no one is coming to her, making her sign the Sekovia Accords?

The same can be said of Luke Cage, but he's a bit more of an elusive character so he can get a pass.

[Autbot_Benz]

Just finished Season 2. I thought it was better and more interesting than the first one.

[Andrew NDB]

Just finished... I think it's episode 7. Whichever one is 95% a flashback to Jessica being a bit younger.

The show has gotten a lot better. I also really like Hogarth's character and her growth this season.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I made it through Episode 4 (Jessica getting arrested for Alisa killing the rival detective's dude in a van) and then had to stop for the weekend. Really looking forward to getting back to it tonight!

[Andrew NDB]

Caught the last two episodes tonight. I was digging where things were going but man, it sure went out with a whimper. There's really nothing and nobody to root for in the end except maybe Hogarth. Certainly nothing in the way of a villain.

And not to keep beating the "fly, dammit!" horse but... why, exactly, didn't Jessica just fly out when she escaped the hospital/morgue with police all around?

Also, what happened with the promises 2 years ago that season 2 would explore her brief superhero past?

[Krutch]

From another source...

The show runner, Melissa Rosenberg, had this to say on the subject in an interview:

"She doesn't fly but she can jump many stories, and she lands really badly, which is why she doesn't do it too often," Rosenberg says.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm hearing from a lot of people that the Marvel Netflix budgets are considerably lower than stuff like Arrow and Flash and Supergirl... so maybe that's the real answer.

Hypothetically, what do you think? I have no idea about the comics, but would Jessica Jones get along with Frank Castle? I'd kind of like to see that.

[Krutch]

I feel like they're the type of people where if you stood them beside each other they wouldn't speak a word to each other and mind their own business. But that's not fun storytelling.

I suppose they would call out each other for their outright "damaged alpha" personality and probably couldn't stand each other.

[Autbot_Benz]

https://news.marvel.com/tv/87535/marvels-jessica-jones-renewed-for-season-3/

Season 3 will happen

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

https://news.marvel.com/tv/87535/marvels-jessica-jones-renewed-for-season-3/

Season 3 will happen

Surprising no one at all. :tlol:

Hopefully Season 3 is an improvement... huge JJ fan since Season 1, but did not like Season 2. :tgrumble:

[Andrew NDB]

Apparently it's already cancelled.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/netflix-survey-hints-at-jessica-jones-axing/

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Apparently it's already cancelled.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/netflix-survey-hints-at-jessica-jones-axing/

I hate that. Also, the article didn't link the Reddit thread, and I'm having trouble finding it.

Although, I did find THIS:

https://www.reddit.com/r/JessicaJones/comments/a91jds/jessica_jones_season_3_set_photo/

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Update: I found it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Defenders/comments/aa9jhq/anybody_else_been_trolled_by_this_netflix_survey/

Doesn't mean it actually IS canceled, but boy, this is rubbing me the wrong way...

[Sumac]

This is a very odd survey to say the least.

[Andrew NDB]

Wonder what's going on with season 3. Mum has been the word for months... and it wrapped last year.

I know we'll get it, but... what's the hold up? If anything I'd think Netflix would want to shoot it out now, during Endgame hysteria.

[Andrew NDB]

OK, June 14th is the date.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/jessica-jones-final-season-set-for-june-14th/

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

OK, June 14th is the date.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/jessica-jones-final-season-set-for-june-14th/

Y'know, I don't remember hearing ANY rumors about what this season is about. No discussion, no theories.

And no trailer?

RIP, Neflix Defenders.

[Andrew NDB]

And no trailer?

There's just this, but it's not much of anything:

aFGm_E9UeBE

I wonder if they were able to see the writing on the wall early enough to somewhat alter the end of the season to... touch on other Defenders?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

There's just this, but it's not much of anything:

aFGm_E9UeBE

I wonder if they were able to see the writing on the wall early enough to somewhat alter the end of the season to... touch on other Defenders?

I really don't care to see Luke Cage or Iron Fist again. Both of those shows never lived up to their potential, IMO.

As far as Daredevil, well... I'm almost finished with my rewatch of Defenders and will be watching Season 3 very soon!

[Andrew NDB]

I really don't care to see Luke Cage or Iron Fist again. Both of those shows never lived up to their potential, IMO.

Iron Fist, I get that... but Luke Cage, really? What else did you want to see on Luke Cage?

Iron Fist just makes me sad. Two seasons plus Defenders and it still felt like he was in the process of "becoming" Iron Fist, but never really got there (in fact, last we saw him it felt like he was even further back from where he started). I don't know. As much as I enjoyed Daredevil and Punisher, the more time that went on the more clear it seemed that maybe the wrong people are at the top of all of those shows.

As far as Daredevil, well... I'm almost finished with my rewatch of [I]Defenders

How disappointing is that to watch again?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Iron Fist, I get that... but Luke Cage, really? What else did you want to see on Luke Cage?

Iron Fist just makes me sad. Two seasons plus Defenders and it still felt like he was in the process of "becoming" Iron Fist, but never really got there (in fact, last we saw him it felt like he was even further back from where he started). I don't know. As much as I enjoyed Daredevil and Punisher, the more time that went on the more clear it seemed that maybe the wrong people are at the top of all of those shows.

Luke Cage? Well, Mike Colter was great, no question there. But the show, both seasons, did really weird things with their villains.

Cornell Stokes (Cottonmouth) and Mariah were amazing. Mariah killing Cottonmouth was amazing. But Diamondback was terrible. The costume, the dialogue, the backstory, EVERYTHING about that character was stupid and cliche. Ruined the back half of Season 1 for me.

And Bushmaster was great. But Mariah and Shades as a couple was just too weird for me; it didn't work, it wasn't believable, and it really kinda failed to follow up on the direction Season 1 seemed to be going with them. Whether or not it worked or followed that direction, all I know is I hated it. Shades should've been more than a lovesick puppy dog.

The cliffhanger ending of Season 2 was incredibly promising, but given my personal track record opinion of the first two seasons, I don't think Luke Cage Season 3 would've been a huge improvement for me. 50% great, 50% maybe I should rewatch Jessica Jones instead. :tlol:

And Iron Fist was bad. I loved the Meachums, but when the show never brought in the dragon (can't remember the name, something the Undying, right?... it's been awhile since I read the comics) and then had all the dragons dead. Well, it just kinda lost me. Didn't even bother watching the second season, because it was all "Oh noes, Danny lost his Iron Fist powers!!!" :trolleye:

How disappointing is that to watch again?

The Daredevil / Elektra / Stick stuff is great. Jessica Jones doesn't really belong in it, even though she's my favorite. It's just kind of a halfhearted "hey, we did a crossover." It probably doesn't help that Iron Fist was an important part of it.

I dunno, I'm kinda soured on everything Netflix MCU except for Daredevil and Jessica. It all ended badly or went directions I didn't enjoy.

[Autbot_Benz]

ah Jessica Jones aka the cure for insomnia. I can't believe this was the last of the netflix shows to get cancelled. This was so boring

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

ah Jessica Jones aka the cure for insomnia. I can't believe this was the last of the netflix shows to get cancelled. This was so boring

Season 2 wasn't great. And I have the utmost regard for Season 1. I hope Season 2 was just the dip in the middle, and Season 3 will be a return to form.

[Andrew NDB]

Season 2 wasn't great.

How can that be? Every one of the episodes was directed by women. They made a big deal about it.

And I have the utmost regard for Season 1. I hope Season 2 was just the dip in the middle, and Season 3 will be a return to form.

If they give her an actual villain this season and up her powers usage, I think I'd be happy. But probably it will be even less powers usage and the "villain" will just be her sister.

It would be kind of neat to see Typhoid Mary from Iron Fist be ported over here, to JJ. But I doubt they'll do it.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

How can that be? Every one of the episodes was directed by women. They made a big deal about it.

If they give her an actual villain this season and up her powers usage, I think I'd be happy. But probably it will be even less powers usage and the "villain" will just be her sister.

It would be kind of neat to see Typhoid Mary from Iron Fist be ported over here, to JJ. But I doubt they'll do it.

Remember how we all thought Jessica would've been going up against Typhoid Mary instead of her mom? That would've been way better.

Frankly, I'm not sure Season 3 will be any good. Trish is maybe a villain (but hopefully they get reconciled), Jess is hanging out with some rando guy in the apartment building, and Kilgrave ain't coming back. No Purple Children, etc.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Not bothering to watch Season 3.

The main aspects of the show that hooked me were Jessica versus Kilgrave, and the friendship between Jessica, Trish, and Malcolm.

Given how sour Season 2 left me, I went looking for spoilers before watching Season 3. Articles like this saved me 13 episodes' worth of time.

https://screenrant.com/jessica-jones-season-3-hellcat-story-comic-accurate/ Trish is the final villain. Hooray Hellcat!

[Andrew NDB]

https://screenrant.com/jessica-jones-season-3-hellcat-story-comic-accurate/ Trish is the final villain. Hooray Hellcat!

And I guess there's a moment like with Jessica Jones in S1 where Jessica tried on costumes and went "Nahh!," with Trish doing the same thing with a version of her comic book costume.

Dumb. This is a reminder of why I'm kind of OK with things going away from the control of whoever the hell has been calling the shots on these Netflix shows. The company line on all of these shows appears to be, "We're really embarrassed to be doing comic book shows so we need to find any way possible to strip them down and ground them out."

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

And I guess there's a moment like with Jessica Jones in S1 where Jessica tried on costumes and went "Nahh!," with Trish doing the same thing with a version of her comic book costume.

Dumb. This is a reminder of why I'm kind of OK with things going away from the control of whoever the hell has been calling the shots on these Netflix shows. The company line on all of these shows appears to be, "We're really embarrassed to be doing comic book shows so we need to find any way possible to strip them down and ground them out."

Agreed. How hard is it to give Trish a real costume? Or Iron Fist? Some characters it makes sense to lean a little further away from the costume... Jessica, I think, or Luke Cage.

But it's weird when EVERYBODY has street clothes. It's like in Daredevil, where Matt finally suited back up and everybody else is in jeans and jackets.

Hell, did Danny Rand even wear shoes in the Defenders, or was he barefoot the entire time?

[Andrew NDB]

Agreed. How hard is it to give Trish a real costume? Or Iron Fist?

It's really frustrating that they never gave Iron Fist one. Basically 3 seasons of things, even a bonus appearance on Luke Cage... not a trace.

Some characters it makes sense to lean a little further away from the costume... Jessica, I think, or Luke Cage.

I'm OK with Luke Cage not having one, though I was hoping with Jessica Jones we'd see a gradual evolution into the more idealized version of what she originally set out to be... some kind of costume included. Like we'd see her deconstructed, like in season 1, and this slow sort of reinvention. Instead of, you know, nothing. Or just her treading water.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'm OK with Luke Cage not having one, though I was hoping with Jessica Jones we'd see a gradual evolution into the more idealized version of what she originally set out to be... some kind of costume included. Like we'd see her deconstructed, like in season 1, and this slow sort of reinvention. Instead of, you know, nothing. Or just her treading water.

Jessica Jones really should have gone up and improved her lot in life for the following seasons, not strip her down to zero friends or family.

It feels like Season 1 was comic accurate, but that the showrunners (and Ritter, too, maybe) just forced the show to become more about women and less about heroes. EVERYTHING had to be deconstructed, including Trish.

Imagine how awesome a comic accurate Typhoid Mary in Season 2, and maybe Purple Children in Season 3, could have been. Not as committed to the Purple Children, but it could have been done.

Or maybe make the villain somebody original (or comic repurposed) who was traumatized/used by Kilgrave, but went further into villainy. Kind of the way abuse fosters abuse, you know? That could have been an interesting story arc.

[Andrew NDB]

Jessica Jones really should have gone up and improved her lot in life for the following seasons, not strip her down to zero friends or family.

It feels like Season 1 was comic accurate, but that the showrunners (and Ritter, too, maybe) just forced the show to become more about women and less about heroes. EVERYTHING had to be deconstructed, including Trish.

Imagine how awesome a comic accurate Typhoid Mary in Season 2, and maybe Purple Children in Season 3, could have been. Not as committed to the Purple Children, but it could have been done.

Or maybe make the villain somebody original (or comic repurposed) who was traumatized/used by Kilgrave, but went further into villainy. Kind of the way abuse fosters abuse, you know? That could have been an interesting story arc.

All of that sounds sound to me.

Just watched the first episode. Yikes. Yeah, she's stripped down to nothing again (I thought I remembered she was still with that neighbor dude at the end of the last season? I guess not?). And right off the bat Jones has a transgender secretary, she (violently) takes a stand against a man who lost custody of his kid, and there's a gay couple in like every scene. The Hogarth stuff was OK.

Starting heavy with the agenda in this one. I don't know if I'll be able to make it through.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

All of that sounds sound to me.

Just watched the first episode. Yikes. Yeah, she's stripped down to nothing again (I thought I remembered she was still with that neighbor dude at the end of the last season? I guess not?). And right off the bat Jones has a transgender secretary, she (violently) takes a stand against a man who lost custody of his kid, and there's a gay couple in like every scene. The Hogarth stuff was OK.

Starting heavy with the agenda in this one. I don't know if I'll be able to make it through.

Vaya con dios, sir. You're a braver man than me...

[Sumac]

All of that sounds sound to me.

Just watched the first episode. Yikes. Yeah, she's stripped down to nothing again (I thought I remembered she was still with that neighbor dude at the end of the last season? I guess not?). And right off the bat Jones has a transgender secretary, she (violently) takes a stand against a man who lost custody of his kid, and there's a gay couple in like every scene. The Hogarth stuff was OK.

Starting heavy with the agenda in this one. I don't know if I'll be able to make it through.
Ouch.
Did they mentioned that trans secretary is "brave and unique"?

[Andrew NDB]

Ouch.
Did they mentioned that trans secretary is "brave and unique"?

I'm sure it's coming. Unless we never see the secretary again and it was just a one-off thing. Like, "See? We have one on our show! Moving on, then," etc..

[Sumac]

I'm sure it's coming. Unless we never see the secretary again and it was just a one-off thing. Like, "See? We have one on our show! Moving on, then," etc..
Much progressive! Wow representation! :lol:

[Candy Kappa]

Finished first episode, and I'm liking it so far. It is unfortunate that Jessica is still not evolving past season 1, but I guess the unfortunate is amplified knowing this is the last season.

Sexy burger guy was funny and Aneesh Sheth's character seems very cute.

[Andrew NDB]

Krysten Ritter says she's done with the role.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/ritter-wont-return-to-jessica-jones-role/

Granted, it kind of reads more like, "With the show gone from Netflix, I think it's unlikely anyone would resurrect Jessica Jones as a TV show anywhere else anytime soon for me to be able to play the role again."

And she's probably right. Of all the Netflix shows I'd certainly be least sad to never see Jessica Jones again... or at least this take on her.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Krysten Ritter says she's done with the role.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/ritter-wont-return-to-jessica-jones-role/

Granted, it kind of reads more like, "With the show gone from Netflix, I think it's unlikely anyone would resurrect Jessica Jones as a TV show anywhere else anytime soon for me to be able to play the role again."

And she's probably right. Of all the Netflix shows I'd certainly be least sad to never see Jessica Jones again... or at least this take on her.

Really? Least sad for Jessica Jones and not Iron Fist?

Explain, please; I'm curious. :tgrin:

[Andrew NDB]

Really? Least sad for Jessica Jones and not Iron Fist?

Explain, please; I'm curious. :tgrin:

There's not really a ton I dislike about Iron Fist beyond his lack of ever getting a costume, the lack of seeing that dragon fully realized and a couple of the choices in season 2 (mostly in terms in regressing him when he should be evolving/getting stronger). I also really like Jessica Henwick. But beyond the costume thing, nothing much to really chap my hide.

Jessica Jones, there's not really a lot there to like. Season 1 baaarely got her to a place where I was interested, then season 2 killed what little good faith I had accumulated. Though I did enjoy the Hogarth subplot... even though it didn't really have anything to do with the main story.

[Andrew NDB]

Watched the first three episodes now. Yeesh. The white males in this really have a big bullseye on them these season, don't they?

[Andrew NDB]

Finally finished season 3 (AKA: the last time we'll ever see new Marvel Netflix stuff). Sorry to keep beating this horse, it doesn't sound like anyone else really even watched this.

Bad season. Bad. The big bad throughout is a pudgy white guy serial killer with no superpowers. There's about 20 times when Jessica knocks him out/down and either doesn't turn him in or makes a deal with him or otherwise he just "gets away." Ridiculous. They drag it out to the second to last episode, over and over again, when Trish finally steps in and kills him after he brutally murders her mother (Jessica's adoptive mother as well).

So what does Jessica do? Instead of a high-five, she wants Trish to turn herself in for murder! And when she doesn't, Jessica snitches her identity out to the world then goes and helps apprehend her. wtf... imagine if someone slowly and brutally murdered your mom, is your brother or sister going to poo poo you for killing the killer? And this is Kilgrave neck snap McGee judging her like this. End of the show, Trish goes off to the Raft. Jessica is about to leave for Texas but then goes, "Nah!" and smiles. I guess we're supposed to ponder if she's going to start being a likable character now?

A Luke Cage scene is there near the end but it's much ado about nothing.

[Andrew NDB]

So Disney/Disney+ went to the trouble of digitally retitling the show its original title from when it was in development, "A.K.A. Jessica Jones."

https://www.darkhorizons.com/tv-news-jones-cw-boys-cyberpunk/

I wonder if this means anything for the future prospects of JJ?