View Full Version : OT and Archie characters in the new show
Utromshredderhater
03-08-2011, 07:54 PM
If they do decide to do that which OT and Archie comics characters would you want in the new cartoon? Irma, Cherebue, Verminator rex? Jagwar Dreadmon Mona Lisa,? Any thoughts anybody?
Powder
03-08-2011, 07:55 PM
I'd like to see Groundchuck & Dirtbag replace the dynamic duo Bebop & Rocksteady.
CyberCubed
03-08-2011, 07:58 PM
We will likely see the obvious ones, Krang, Bebop/Rocksteady and possibly fly Baxter.
Beyond that who knows if they'll use anyone else. I'd probably say Rahzar/Tokka, Slash, and General Traag would be the next most likely choices.
Only reason I didn't say Leatherhead or Rat King is because they were Mirage characters first.
deadpoolRKO
03-08-2011, 08:03 PM
Krang for sure , and I'd say Bebop and Rocksteady will be back at least at first
i really hope they use casey jones.
I hope they bring back April's nerdy friend Irma.
I always thought she was kinda funny.
CyberCubed
03-08-2011, 08:15 PM
i really hope they use casey jones.
Casey Jones is not an OT/Archie character, and besides he's obviously a shoe-in.
I hope they bring back April's nerdy friend Irma.
Depends if April is a reporter in this version, even if she is for some reason I can't see the old Channel 6 news crew returning.
Utromshredderhater
03-08-2011, 08:38 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing shameless suck up Vernon,
oldmanwinters
03-08-2011, 09:29 PM
I also support a return of the wacky Channel 6 crew. They provided some great humor bits in the OT bouncing off each others witticisms and quirks!
Jephael
03-08-2011, 09:32 PM
I'd also like to see Vernon and Irma, but instead of Burne Thompson I'd like to see Charles Pennington and his son Danny. I never liked Burne. He was just such a jerk.
Utromshredderhater
03-08-2011, 09:46 PM
I would like to see Tokka and Rahzar teamed with Bebop and Rocksteady so that it's 4 against 4, also how about the Mutanimals, Mona Lisa and Ninjara,
as villains I wouldn't mind seeing Malinga, Null, War Verminator Rex.Any other villains I'm missing?
Avatar Yuffie
03-09-2011, 01:29 AM
Mona, Ninjara, the Mutanimals, Tokka, Rahzar, Krang, Bebop, Rocksteady, Slash and Dragon Warrior.
I kinda wish Casey would be ret-conned as an older teenager so it would eliminate the need for the Turtles having other human teenage peers, and he'd be a good audience surrogate. Course that would put a bump for the April/Casey romance... especially if the new April stays an adult.
I would like to see Ninjara Verminator and prob Bebop and Rocksteady.
ssjup81
03-09-2011, 04:19 AM
Even though I couldn't imagine Rocksteady and Bebop ever being used in any medium outside of the OT and Archie, I would like to see them again.
That aside, number one choice for me is Ninjara. After her, probably Mona Lisa since, imo, there was potential for the character.
Avatar Yuffie
03-09-2011, 05:12 AM
Even though I couldn't imagine Rocksteady and Bebop ever being used in any medium outside of the OT and Archie, I would like to see them again.
That aside, number one choice for me is Ninjara. After her, probably Mona Lisa since, imo, there was potential for the character.
When Japanese fans actually remember Mona Lisa and referenced her in their fanart, add to the fact she only appeared in one episode and years after the OT ended, then yeah on her potential.
ssjup81
03-09-2011, 05:55 AM
When Japanese fans actually remember Mona Lisa and referenced her in their fanart, add to the fact she only appeared in one episode and years after the OT ended, then yeah on her potential.
I honestly felt that there was potential for her, although, granted, I'm thinking specifically from the OT POV. I mean, it was another mutant character that was female and I was hoping they would've done something with her, hence why I said I felt that she had potential to be used. They were rarity.
Avatar Yuffie
03-09-2011, 06:05 AM
I honestly felt that there was potential for her, although, granted, I'm thinking specifically from the OT POV. I mean, it was another mutant character that was female and I was hoping they would've done something with her, hence why I said I felt that she had potential to be used. They were rarity.
TBF, other friendly mutants really made brief episodes, IIRC Mondo Gecko appeared about twice (and he only became a major character as a Mutanimal) in the cartoon proper. I don't think as a kid back then I'd expect Mona as a regular character like Irma did, I'm just with the rest hoping she'd guest star more.
VaughnMichael
03-09-2011, 07:01 AM
I want to see Armaggon, Slash (Archie comics), Rat King (close to how he was in the old toon), The Future TMNT, Man Ray (Archie), Cha Ocho, & Baxter Stockman (2k3 or mirage style).
Anyone else would be icing on the cake.
ssjup81
03-09-2011, 07:18 AM
TBF, other friendly mutants really made brief episodes, IIRC Mondo Gecko appeared about twice (and he only became a major character as a Mutanimal) in the cartoon proper. I don't think as a kid back then I'd expect Mona as a regular character like Irma did, I'm just with the rest hoping she'd guest star more.I guess I'm just a Mona Lisa fan and wish she would've gotten more screen time or cameos or eps or something. This isn't an opinion that was formed since I've revisited the series; I've felt this way since I first saw the episode as a kid. It's one of the few eps I remembered before watching it, because I liked it so much, and it would've been cool to keep her around or have her show up every once in a while for Raph's sake. Would've been nice if she'd shown up in the Archie comic and became a Mutanimal too, even if not for the whole romantic interest aspect since Ninjara filled that role.
Edit: Forgot to mention Mondo Gecko. I wish he would've been in more episodes. He was only in two. Here they introduce a character that Mikey could relate to and hang with, but they didn't use him to his full potential. Well, at least he was a main character in the Mutanimal comics...sad what happens to all of the Mutanimals, though...but oh well. :(
deadpoolRKO
03-09-2011, 07:20 AM
Casey Jones is not an OT/Archie character, and besides he's obviously a shoe-in.
sorry, my fault.
Utromshredderhater
03-09-2011, 08:21 AM
I would like to see Tokka and Rahzar teamed with Bebop and Rocksteady so that it's 4 against 4, also how about the Mutanimals, Mona Lisa and Ninjara,
as villains I wouldn't mind seeing Malinga, Null, War Verminator Rex.Any other villains I'm missing?
Hey no big loss there I prefer them as friends
BitchinPicturesChris
03-09-2011, 06:43 PM
I'd love Bebop and Rocksteady to come back in the new series. I think a new take on them would be a fresh addition to the show. If they were a little more competent than before, they'd be great for modern television.
Utromshredderhater
03-09-2011, 07:38 PM
What about villains like Null and That insect queen Malingna and Verminator Rex
Plus how about Usagi and his friends,
also what about a story involving the Turnstone
But keep Dregg and Carter buried as possible
One character I would LOVE to see is Armaggon, I am no archie fanboy either, I never read it as a kid and when I did a few years ago I thought it was nothing special. The design of Armaggon however is simply awesome, loved him as a kid from the way he looked in the SNES Tournament Fighters box and I never even owned the game. he'd be a great villain. I think he has a chance in being in it if the new show has mutants.
I would also like to see TNM villains in the show, whatever you may think of the show it created some pretty cool rogues. Silver the mafia gorilla was better than any of the generic mafia bosses the OT had. Dragonlord another potential big threat so its not all Shredder all the time, even if he's just there for a 3 parter or something. Bonesteel a guys who actually wants to hunt the turtles just for trophies. Vammi the vampire I didn't care much for. Dr. Quease was also good however he did fulfill stockman's role for the most part and he'd overlap with him, but I liked that he wasn't necessarily evil, he just did stuff for science regardless of morality whether Baxter actually did it for evil purposes. The villains weren't always written very well and at times a little too goofy in TNM but sometimes they were written fairly well and if written well all these characters are awesome. I also wouldn't mind Venus even if in just one episode or came but I doubt it. In fact I doubt any of TNM would make it in sadly.
Other obscure characters I'd like to see would include Lord Dregg, I mean he was the main villain of the OT turtles he should at least get one episode. Also don't see him happening. Tokka/Rahzar would also be one I'd really like to seen, it also depends if the show has mutants, I don't know if they'd make it. I of course would love to see OT characters like Krang/Beebop/Rocksteady though who knows after that promo image maybe we won't see mutants, I know I'm judging based on one single promo art release and doesn't represent the show necessarily but based on that we might not see mutants. And yeah I'd love to see mutants any of the OT/Archie/Toyline, I even think the OT lacked mutants, counting how many figures and mutants the show had we could have had awesome episodes with mutants/monsters instead of so many generic Mad Scientist episodes. Really if you think about it the OT should have had way more screen time for the other iconic characters created for the show.
Utromshredderhater
03-09-2011, 08:43 PM
One character I would LOVE to see is Armaggon, I am no archie fanboy either, I never read it as a kid and when I did a few years ago I thought it was nothing special. The design of Armaggon however is simply awesome, loved him as a kid from the way he looked in the SNES Tournament Fighters box and I never even owned the game. he'd be a great villain. I think he has a chance in being in it if the new show has mutants.
I would also like to see TNM villains in the show, whatever you may think of the show it created some pretty cool rogues. Silver the mafia gorilla was better than any of the generic mafia bosses the OT had. Dragonlord another potential big threat so its not all Shredder all the time, even if he's just there for a 3 parter or something. Bonesteel a guys who actually wants to hunt the turtles just for trophies. Vammi the vampire I didn't care much for. Dr. Quease was also good however he did fulfill stockman's role for the most part and he'd overlap with him, but I liked that he wasn't necessarily evil, he just did stuff for science regardless of morality whether Baxter actually did it for evil purposes. The villains weren't always written very well and at times a little too goofy in TNM but sometimes they were written fairly well and if written well all these characters are awesome. I also wouldn't mind Venus even if in just one episode or came but I doubt it. In fact I doubt any of TNM would make it in sadly.
Other obscure characters I'd like to see would include Lord Dregg, I mean he was the main villain of the OT turtles he should at least get one episode. Also don't see him happening. Tokka/Rahzar would also be one I'd really like to seen, it also depends if the show has mutants, I don't know if they'd make it. I of course would love to see OT characters like Krang/Beebop/Rocksteady though who knows after that promo image maybe we won't see mutants, I know I'm judging based on one single promo art release and doesn't represent the show necessarily but based on that we might not see mutants. And yeah I'd love to see mutants any of the OT/Archie/Toyline, I even think the OT lacked mutants, counting how many figures and mutants the show had we could have had awesome episodes with mutants/monsters instead of so many generic Mad Scientist episodes. Really if you think about it the OT should have had way more screen time for the other iconic characters created for the show.
Dragon lord I may consider, But keep Venus and all those other Next mutation rejects as far away as possible
I dislike adding of any mutants :U Keep all dat crap away. 4 is enough.
Raph's Girl
03-09-2011, 09:46 PM
Ninjara
Ninjara
Ninjara
Have I mentioned Ninjara?
Oh and Usagi, Gen, Rocksteady, Bebop, ect....but mostly Ninjara.
Avatar Yuffie
03-09-2011, 09:52 PM
I guess I'm just a Mona Lisa fan and wish she would've gotten more screen time or cameos or eps or something. This isn't an opinion that was formed since I've revisited the series; I've felt this way since I first saw the episode as a kid. It's one of the few eps I remembered before watching it, because I liked it so much, and it would've been cool to keep her around or have her show up every once in a while for Raph's sake. Would've been nice if she'd shown up in the Archie comic and became a Mutanimal too, even if not for the whole romantic interest aspect since Ninjara filled that role.
Edit: Forgot to mention Mondo Gecko. I wish he would've been in more episodes. He was only in two. Here they introduce a character that Mikey could relate to and hang with, but they didn't use him to his full potential. Well, at least he was a main character in the Mutanimal comics...sad what happens to all of the Mutanimals, though...but oh well. :(
Mona fan too. And I really love her interaction with OT!Raph, they're really really fun together in that episode. And I guess I'm not alone, judging from her fanbase.
Am I the only one thinking Mona wouldn't be that in a hurry to be a love interest (I always thought that back in the OT)? Since she's around a college girl's age (18-21), and Raph's 15? I'm sure she'd be more reluctant to be with a minor.
But I'm kinda glad Mona didn't join the Mutanimals at all. Because, well, y'know. :p
Volvagia
03-10-2011, 06:52 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing Bebop and Rocksteady again, I love those two.
Mona Lisa would be nice too, I loved her in that one episode, just keep the romance far away.
Jephael
03-10-2011, 04:21 PM
I dislike adding of any mutants :U Keep all dat crap away. 4 is enough.
Don't you mean 5, or do you not like Splinter?
Redeemer
03-10-2011, 06:54 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing shameless suck up Vernon,
I would like to see vernon so they dont give Mikey RE-RE syndrome like in 2k3 :roll:
cryan
03-10-2011, 07:20 PM
Mona fan too. And I really love her interaction with OT!Raph, they're really really fun together in that episode. And I guess I'm not alone, judging from her fanbase.
Am I the only one thinking Mona wouldn't be that in a hurry to be a love interest (I always thought that back in the OT)? Since she's around a college girl's age (18-21), and Raph's 15? I'm sure she'd be more reluctant to be with a minor.
But I'm kinda glad Mona didn't join the Mutanimals at all. Because, well, y'know. :p
I liked her as well.It's funny,20 yeas later I still remember her.
FearlessLeader
03-10-2011, 07:37 PM
Don't you mean 5, or do you not like Splinter?
And what about Leatherhead?? :tcool:
Utromshredderhater
03-10-2011, 08:15 PM
Mona fan too. And I really love her interaction with OT!Raph, they're really really fun together in that episode. And I guess I'm not alone, judging from her fanbase.
Am I the only one thinking Mona wouldn't be that in a hurry to be a love interest (I always thought that back in the OT)? Since she's around a college girl's age (18-21), and Raph's 15? I'm sure she'd be more reluctant to be with a minor.
But I'm kinda glad Mona didn't join the Mutanimals at all. Because, well, y'know. :p
That would depend if they kept Mona's origin the same, they could just make her one of Stockmen's test animals.
Plus I still think it's a good idea to team Bebop and Rocksteady with Tokka and Rahzar, Also Hoa about Tatsu and Lotus Blossom
Avatar Yuffie
03-10-2011, 09:14 PM
Don't you mean 5, or do you not like Splinter?
And Leatherhead. Poor dude.
Utromshredderhater
03-11-2011, 10:46 PM
What about the Technodrome
Redeemer
03-15-2011, 10:59 PM
And what about Leatherhead?? :tcool:
What about the Technodrome
Truthfully I would only want to see leather head if he is a bad guy, I didnt mind the 2k3 Leatherhead, but I prefer him to either be bad or rogue.
As for the technodrome :tlol: Hell yeah, well truthfully I would want an interpretation of some sort of underground moving base.
Newton Gimmick
03-23-2011, 07:29 AM
Hopefully Don Tortelli becomes the new main villain.
And Leatherhead. Poor dude.
4 is enough. Splinter should just die off already.
FearlessLeader
03-23-2011, 01:58 PM
4 is enough. Splinter should just die off already.
http://i51.tinypic.com/11t4fic.jpg
cryan
03-25-2011, 07:08 PM
Kinda makes me wonder.In the first movie when the guys come back to the lair and its ransacked and Splinter was nowere to be found and Raph went completely mental.The kids in the theater freaked out.Of course he gets captured by the Foot.Curious if they played that to a test audience and got the same response.I still want Splinter in the new toon.
ssjup81
03-25-2011, 07:27 PM
Kinda makes me wonder.In the first movie when the guys come back to the lair and its ransacked and Splinter was nowere to be found and Raph went completely mental.The kids in the theater freaked out.Of course he gets captured by the Foot.Curious if they played that to a test audience and got the same response.I still want Splinter in the new toon.Personally, rewatching the movie a few weeks ago, and seeing that part, I felt that Raph should've been more like, "Okay, who the hell did this! I'll kill 'im!" or something after his scream, and then have the other three calm him down and then head over to April's. That just goes with what I was saying in the other thread. Movie 1 seemed too short.
Bjarni
03-27-2011, 01:17 PM
I would like to see;
Karai
Bloodsucker
Leatherhead
Fugitoid
Zog
The Rat King
Shadow
Dragon Lord
Pimoko
Bebop
Rocksteady
Ninjara
Dragon Warrior
The Mighty Mutanimals
Pizzaface
Metalhead
Irma
Vernon
Krang
Hun
Mondo_Gecko
05-04-2011, 11:02 PM
Honestly, I hope the writers really take advantage of the library and mythology that is accessible through the worlds of both the Archie comics and the original cartoon. Especially If the writers really want to milk and expand upon this "mutation in progress" tagline that is being thrown around.
Here you have not only interesting characters but fantastic story ideas that really have potential to drive not only story arcs but stand alone episodes as well. It most likely won't happen but I would love to see this version be full of serialization and continuity.
Ever since I was a child I was fascinated with the idea of mutants and anthropomorphic animals. I loved transformation and origin stories and because of this I gravitated to the various mutant characters that were presented to us. My only complaint was that they weren't used to their full potential. It would have been wonderful to see an expanded universe of the mutants and their effect on the world.
You had characters from the toy line such as Ace Duck, Ray Fillet, Wyrm, Pizza Face, Panda Khan, Srgt. Bananas and Walkabout who were neither given an origin or an episode to appear. Don't tell me that there were no interesting stories to tell about a mutant duck fighter pilot, a villainous pizza chef and an evil sewer worm. The possibilities for those three alone were endless.
In the original cartoon, characters such as Mondo Gecko, Mona Lisa, Muckman, Ray, Anti-Turtle squad and even the two remaining punk frogs were completely dropped. Mondo Gecko and Muckman could have been further developed and helped cement life in the sewer with characters such as Rat King, Wrym and Scumbug running about. Mona Lisa could have become both a ally and love interest to the turtles and we could see her grow as she adjusted to becoming a mutant. Ray and the Anti-Turtle squad could have returned to cause havoc. The Anti-Turtle squad in particular would have made a great recurring enemy and even Dirk Savage could have emerged as the leader.
I would love to see the following characters from the toy line, original cartoon and Archie continuity return and hopefully develop.
Original Cartoon:
Punk Frogs, Mondo Gecko, Mona Lisa, Muckman, Metalhead, Ray, Anti-Turtle squad, Groundchuck, Dirtbag, Bebop, Rocksteady, Krang, General Tragg, Granitor and Rat King
Archie Comics:
Mighty Mutanimals, Ninjara, Warrior Dragon, Al Falqua, Katmandu, Slash, Null, Maligna, Scull & Bean, Kid Terra, Armaggon, Verminator X, Uncanny Trio, Four Horseman, Wrym, Scumbug and Mammoth.
Toy Line:
Ace Duck, Panda Khan, Srgt. Bananas, Walkabout, Pizza Face and Wyrm,
I also would love to see Mutagen Man return as I saw him as a tragic character but he is rather limited. It would be nice to fit Keno in there somewhere and he could be the de facto pizza boy or something.
Wheh, this is a long post. My apologies. Maybe I should get into this fan fiction I hear so much about;)
RskimB
05-05-2011, 12:39 AM
i hope its as original as possible
Jester
05-05-2011, 12:57 AM
I'm not opposed to a lot of the Archie/Fred Wolf characters...as long as they are well done.
So Soooooo many characters that I would love to see in the new show, Bebop and Rocksteady for sure but maybe have them abit more of a match for the turtles. Slash (the archie version), The Mutanimals. But how good would an episode be where the turtles take part in a stump wrestling match!
ssjup81
05-05-2011, 09:34 AM
In the early eps of the OT series, am I the only one who didn't feel that Rocksteady and Bebop weren't particularly stupid but gradually became stupid so that they'd be more like comedy relief characters 100%? Seems in the beginning, the Turtles had a tough time fighting them because of their strength.
In the early eps of the OT series, am I the only one who didn't feel that Rocksteady and Bebop weren't particularly stupid but gradually became stupid so that they'd be more like comedy relief characters 100%? Seems in the beginning, the Turtles had a tough time fighting them because of their strength.
Definitely!! When B & R fought the turtles at the zoo they were holding their own. Raph even said "Man there's no stopping these guys!". And had to out smart them to win. But you're right dude the later the season the more "DUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHH MISTAH SHREDDERRRRRR".
Still.......you gotta love em. :D
cryan
05-05-2011, 05:25 PM
Honestly, I hope the writers really take advantage of the library and mythology that is accessible through the worlds of both the Archie comics and the original cartoon. Especially If the writers really want to milk and expand upon this "mutation in progress" tagline that is being thrown around.
Here you have not only interesting characters but fantastic story ideas that really have potential to drive not only story arcs but stand alone episodes as well. It most likely won't happen but I would love to see this version be full of serialization and continuity.
Ever since I was a child I was fascinated with the idea of mutants and anthropomorphic animals. I loved transformation and origin stories and because of this I gravitated to the various mutant characters that were presented to us. My only complaint was that they weren't used to their full potential. It would have been wonderful to see an expanded universe of the mutants and their effect on the world.
You had characters from the toy line such as Ace Duck, Ray Fillet, Wyrm, Pizza Face, Panda Khan, Srgt. Bananas and Walkabout who were neither given an origin or an episode to appear. Don't tell me that there were no interesting stories to tell about a mutant duck fighter pilot, a villainous pizza chef and an evil sewer worm. The possibilities for those three alone were endless.
In the original cartoon, characters such as Mondo Gecko, Mona Lisa, Muckman, Ray, Anti-Turtle squad and even the two remaining punk frogs were completely dropped. Mondo Gecko and Muckman could have been further developed and helped cement life in the sewer with characters such as Rat King, Wrym and Scumbug running about. Mona Lisa could have become both a ally and love interest to the turtles and we could see her grow as she adjusted to becoming a mutant. Ray and the Anti-Turtle squad could have returned to cause havoc. The Anti-Turtle squad in particular would have made a great recurring enemy and even Dirk Savage could have emerged as the leader.
I would love to see the following characters from the toy line, original cartoon and Archie continuity return and hopefully develop.
Original Cartoon:
Punk Frogs, Mondo Gecko, Mona Lisa, Muckman, Metalhead, Ray, Anti-Turtle squad, Groundchuck, Dirtbag, Bebop, Rocksteady, Krang, General Tragg, Granitor and Rat King
Archie Comics:
Mighty Mutanimals, Ninjara, Warrior Dragon, Al Falqua, Katmandu, Slash, Null, Maligna, Scull & Bean, Kid Terra, Armaggon, Verminator X, Uncanny Trio, Four Horseman, Wrym, Scumbug and Mammoth.
Toy Line:
Ace Duck, Panda Khan, Srgt. Bananas, Walkabout, Pizza Face and Wyrm,
I also would love to see Mutagen Man return as I saw him as a tragic character but he is rather limited. It would be nice to fit Keno in there somewhere and he could be the de facto pizza boy or something.
Wheh, this is a long post. My apologies. Maybe I should get into this fan fiction I hear so much about;)
I couldn't agree more.With the characters you listed.I want them updated.Just some minor tweaking on them.As will Mona Lisa,I do agree that she should have come back.
Icebot
05-05-2011, 07:53 PM
I want to see Dregg, Carter, all the red sky characters in the new show.
ssjup81
05-06-2011, 05:49 AM
Definitely!! When B & R fought the turtles at the zoo they were holding their own. Raph even said "Man there's no stopping these guys!". And had to out smart them to win. But you're right dude the later the season the more "DUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHH MISTAH SHREDDERRRRRR".
Still.......you gotta love em. :D
Definitely. They were adorable characters, if you can call them that. :tlol: I still loved how they used that ray and overpowered Krang and Shredder and the Turtles.
Guess that'd be nice to see. The return of the infamous duo, only more like their early selves as opposed to their later clumsy selves.
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