Do you like watching subtitled animes or redubbed ones?

[Mr.Turtle]

I prefer subtitle coz the redub are always awefull...:cry: although lots of animes are redubbed into English and other languages these days like Pokemon, Yogio, detective conan... but they don't sound right to me.:teek:

[GK Punk]

I wouldn't say all dubbings are awful, but there are a lot of them that are. I do prefer subs though. More because I prefer to hear the Japanese language.

[Candy Kappa]

mostly subs, but there are a couple of good dubs

[Master Splinter]

mostly subs, but there are a couple of good dubs

I don't really watch anime, but when I catch a show I would prefer a dubbed show over subtitles, I cannot stand having to miss out on what is going on because I'm stuck reading..

-ms

[gobo]

I don't really watch anime, but when I catch a show I would prefer a dubbed show over subtitles, I cannot stand having to miss out on what is going on because I'm stuck reading..

-ms
Ditto .

[Roseangelo]

Subtitles all the way. In general, most dubs feature horrible overacting and/or voices that are too far off from the originals and don't fit the characters. However, most of the Studio Ghibli dubs are good/watchable and I think I'll always have a soft spot for the original Pokemon and Sailor Moon dubs.

[Powder]

Subtitles all the way. In general, most dubs feature horrible overacting and/or voices that are too far off from the originals and don't fit the characters. However, most of the Studio Ghibli dubs are good/watchable and I think I'll always have a soft spot for the original Pokemon and Sailor Moon dubs.

This.

I like dubs of the ones I grew up on (Gundam Wing, Tenchi Muyo, etc.) but most you hear are pretty bad.

Pokemon was amazing up until like 2 years ago when EVERYBODY got booted... Now I watch that subbed.

[GK Punk]

Subtitles all the way. In general, most dubs feature horrible overacting and/or voices that are too far off from the originals and don't fit the characters. However, most of the Studio Ghibli dubs are good/watchable and I think I'll always have a soft spot for the original Pokemon and Sailor Moon dubs.

I can't help but love the original Sailor Moon dubs. I probably always will.

[愛]

I'm more of a fan of dubs than I used to be. After learning Japanese and actually listening to what they're saying, I get so annoyed by Japanese voices sometimes. Subbers also tend to get things wrong, and that kinda turns me off, too.

[Koi]

What AI said.

I just don't like watching it and knowing that what they are saying is not matching up with what is being subbed.

[GK Punk]

I've seen that happen with dubbing as well though.

[愛]

I've seen that happen with dubbing as well though.

This is true, but if you do not watch the subs, there's no frame of reference, so it's all good. :)

[GK Punk]

Excellent point, sir!

[愛]

I did that with Black Lagoon. Easily one of the best dubs I've ever had the pleasure of listening to.

[Koschei]

It depends on whether it is a movie or show.
Movies I pay more attention too with subtitles.
Shows I enjoy to draw and listen too.

I've watched some movies with pretty good dubs though.
I also enjoy live action movies with subtitles more.

[Abnormal Freak]

Subtitled. Even the few dubs that are good aren't as good as the original Japanese, with maybe like one or two exceptions. Worse voice acting, worse dialog... But that said, I really enjoy Manga Video's dubs from back in the day. They have a lot of coarse language that I find amusing (the "Be impressed, because these cartoon characters are grown up and have potty mouths" variety—really juvenile and great), and the voice acting is usually pretty solid. Watched this OVA on Netflix recently called Vampire Wars. Loved the dub in it. :p So ridiculous(ly badass).

I really want a Blu-ray for Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust with the Japanese voice track with English subs. I can't stand the English voice acting in that movie (with the exception of Dwight Schultz' characters, 'cos he is an amazing voice actor). Bad dialog, too. Some would say that the English voice track is the proper way to view the film, since it was recorded first (the Japanese track wasn't made until like a year later, I think), but the thing is, the animation was made to follow the Japanese script, which was altered heavily for the English dub, with heavily Americanized dialog and sensibilities. So, screw what was recorded first—the Japanese version has the original dialog (which is far superior—I read parts of the translated script), and has a lot of really great voice actors, including the original voice for Left Hand, whom I felt was ruined in the English version both because of his voice and because of the dialog. (The translated Japanese dialog I read for Left Hand was far more akin to the kinds of things he says in the books and the first movie.)

[Cure]

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[gobo]

^_^ .

[Wildgoose]

I usually prefer watching them with subtitles, cause I enjoy the original seiyu more, but Ive watched some dubs too and they were really good (still Ive watched also some that they sucked bad)

[discordiatookie]

I'm not too fussed, i'll watch it whatever way it comes on the telly/default DVD play.

[Ninjinister]

I don't watch a lot of anime anymore, but even back in my otaku high school days I preferred English redubs, for many reasons. For one thing, people seem to grossly underestimate the acting quality of English dubs and at the same time, some Japanese ones aren't exactly as good as many believe them to be.


(I do like how you indicated "redubbed" in the title - because people often seem to forget that all cartoons are dubbed in the first place, no matter the language. That's what the process of adding vocal tracks to it is called :P )

[Jester]

Anime...what's anime?

[GK Punk]

The Japanese word for cartoons. :p

[Ninjinister]

The Japanese word for cartoons. :p

I'm pretty sure he knows that. He's just being... well... Jester.

[GK Punk]

Yeah that's why I put the little smiley there. Just givin' him a hard time. :)

[Jester]

They have cartoons in Japan? :D

[gobo]

They have cartoons in Japan? :D
No, but they hafta have a word for it. It's the law! ^_^

[Jester]

Ok, enough "jesting." Never was a huge fan of anime (mainly because I thought when Pokemon the series came on that it was a "fad" and it was all way too similar, art wise.), but I'm sure if i found the right series or movie I'd enjoy it. As for dubs versus subs, not sure. I don't like subtitles, unless I'm really investing the time. Most of the time I have a movie on as background noise. But if I do watch a subtitled flick, eventually I don't even realize I'm reading anymore...so it really depends on the situation.

[GK Punk]

I'm sure there is something out there you'd like. There is such a large variety of anime. Not all of it is like Pokemon or Sailor Moon or any of the other ones that are really popular over here. Just depends on your tastes.

[Jester]

ATM I have on my PC Highlander the Anime and the Wolverine anime. One is dubbed (Highlander) and one subbed (Wolvie), but I haven't watched them yet.

[Powder]

Anime is just like anything else. There's tons of great stuff, tons of trash, and plenty of "okay".
As said before, just gotta find what suits your taste.

[Ninjinister]

Yeah that's why I put the little smiley there. Just givin' him a hard time. :)

Oh, okay. It didn't parse in the forum as a smiley so my brain registered it as "colon-p". Which actually sounds a lot worse now that it's out in text....

[Peanut]

My fiance has been watching a lot of anime for the last little while, mostly stuff like Fruits Basket and Ouran Host Club. This weird newfound interest led us to watch a few different animes together together, including Soul Eater, which I ended up liking a lot. After watching that and then checking out some subs, I found I liked the dub a lot more.

I dunno, I think people are just stupid. A lot of anime in the original Japanese have insanely irritating/grating voices that really start to bug me. At the same time, some are really well done. I don't think something getting dubbed in English automatically makes it worse, far from it.

[XERO]

I just got through watching the dubbed version of Street Fighter II V. The voices didn't bother me.

[Ninjinister]

I dunno, I think people are just stupid. A lot of anime in the original Japanese have insanely irritating/grating voices that really start to bug me. At the same time, some are really well done. I don't think something getting dubbed in English automatically makes it worse, far from it.

This. F**king this right here.

[Abnormal Freak]

(I do like how you indicated "redubbed" in the title - because people often seem to forget that all cartoons are dubbed in the first place, no matter the language. That's what the process of adding vocal tracks to it is called :P )

Bah! Technicalities. ;) They're just terms to help distinguish; it's easier to call them "subs and dubs" versus "dubs and redubs." And what about the case of something like Akira, which has been dubbed into English twice? Is the newer one a reredub? ;)

I dunno, I think people are just stupid. A lot of anime in the original Japanese have insanely irritating/grating voices that really start to bug me. At the same time, some are really well done. I don't think something getting dubbed in English automatically makes it worse, far from it.

I can understand preferring a dub to a sub (kinda, I guess), but to call me and others stupid just because we like subs more? Really, now. For me, I prefer subs automatically based on them being the original language. Original dialog, original voice acting, and what the lip movements were animated around. A dub, to me, is bastardized just because of the changes necessary to create proper lip syncing, and the added problem of putting voices to animation, rather than animating to the voice actors' performances. (Not all cartoons—Japanese or otherwise—are voiced first, but a lot, probably most, are.)

That, and I've never heard a dub I like more than the sub. The Japanese put a lot of emotion into their voice acting that's rather over-the-top, and I like that excessive emoting; it fits the stylized animation and concepts. Most US voice actors, however, sound pretty drab and with almost no vocal range whatsoever. If you'd rather listen to Steven Blum play the same monotonous voice in every anime and video game ever, fine; but I'll taking emoting and the "excited when necessary, including in his voice" Spike Spiegel over that any day. ;)

Also, dub dialog usually just bites the dust, I find. Again, because they have to use words that go relatively well with the lip movements. Compromises have to be made, and you can only get so much of the same message across, and it usually comes across very stilted. I'd rather read English translations of the original dialog, imperfect as that may be, over an even more bastardized form of the original wording.

BUT OH I GUESS I'M JUST A BIG STUPID SO DON'T LISTEN TO ME ;)

[XERO]

Rub a dub redub.

[Mandi-chan]

I like both. Some dubs I love because I grew up with them, and some dubs I love because they are honestly good (once in a while, I come across a dub that I think is better than the original version).

[Ninjinister]

I can understand preferring a dub to a sub (kinda, I guess), but to call me and others stupid just because we like subs more? Really, now. For me, I prefer subs automatically based on them being the original language. Original dialog, original voice acting, and what the lip movements were animated around. A dub, to me, is bastardized just because of the changes necessary to create proper lip syncing, and the added problem of putting voices to animation, rather than animating to the voice actors' performances. (Not all cartoons—Japanese or otherwise—are voiced first, but a lot, probably most, are.)
It is pretty stupid to prefer something, regardless of quality, just because it's not the original or has been changed. This is called a blind bias, and is a logical fallacy. Now I personally would not say you are stupid. I'd say the idea is.


That, and I've never heard a dub I like more than the sub. The Japanese put a lot of emotion into their voice acting that's rather over-the-top, and I like that excessive emoting; it fits the stylized animation and concepts. Most US voice actors, however, sound pretty drab and with almost no vocal range whatsoever. If you'd rather listen to Steven Blum play the same monotonous voice in every anime and video game ever, fine; but I'll taking emoting and the "excited when necessary, including in his voice" Spike Spiegel over that any day. ;)


This shows that you know absolutely nothing about acting or voice acting. At all. American or Japanese. Especially Blum... his voice is far from monotone, and he has a wide vocal range (compare his Guilmon to his Spiegel, or heck... I didn't even know he was Taskmaster in MVC3 until I looked it up, because that voice is so different from his Wolverine in the same game). When you have an actor with a wide range of vocal differences, but seems to use the same or similar ones in different projects, it's because that is what the director feels fits the character. But that happens even in Japan, quite often. Look at the late Daisuke Gouri... he used the exact same, distinctive voice in EVERYTHING. Yet he was one of the most popular voice actors because his one voice was spectacular. Case in point, Kouichi Yamadera (Spike's Japanese actor) does have quite a few different voices he uses, but there is one, his Daigo/M. Bison voice, that is used most often.

And I know, you're going to be like "well, that's just your opinion, man." That's just it. I don't understand how acting is one of the few vocations where there's no general baseline of how someone is good at their job or not. True, you can like something regardless of quality. I like the acting in Symphony of the Night, although I admit it's terrible. I like Next Mutation even though I know it's s**t. I like Shaq Fu. But with something like acting, people will argue whether it's good. The likes of David Caruso and Sean Penn make millions from delivering their dialogue with all the chops of a board, because there are people that insist otherwise. Now, if I half-assed my job, there'd not be a soul that would save me from being canned. If a construction worker botched several projects, do you think he'd still be employed? In either case, nobody would step in and say that those responsible for terminating employment are wrong in their decision. But if an actor's lack of skill is a factor in him or her being fired from a production, there will always be someone who insists that his or her skill is adequate.

EDIT: Sorry. Unnecessary rant. Art is in the eye of the beholder and all that jazz. Disregard.

[Candy Kappa]

I don't really watch anime, but when I catch a show I would prefer a dubbed show over subtitles, I cannot stand having to miss out on what is going on because I'm stuck reading..

-ms

could be one of the good point not being native English speaker. I have always read subtitles on movies and non-animated TV shows, and with the little to no real voice actors in Norway. You in early age learns to appreciate the original dub (Nor. dub of TMNT had helium voices)

And usually when I watch movies have English sub as well, helps often if the sound is low.

[Peanut]

I can understand preferring a dub to a sub (kinda, I guess), but to call me and others stupid just because we like subs more? Really, now.

BUT OH I GUESS I'M JUST A BIG STUPID SO DON'T LISTEN TO ME ;)

Nobody called you stupid, although the rant you went off on certainly made you sound stupid.

You can like subs more than dubs all you like, anyone can, but to be one of "those kids" who prefers the "original un-bastardized" version of something REGARDLESS OF QUALITY makes you a huuuuuuuuge tool.

Ninjinister pretty much hit the nail on the head, even if he wants to be polite and won't outright admit it.

[GK Punk]

My fiance has been watching a lot of anime for the last little while, mostly stuff like Fruits Basket and Ouran Host Club. This weird newfound interest led us to watch a few different animes together together, including Soul Eater, which I ended up liking a lot. After watching that and then checking out some subs, I found I liked the dub a lot more.

I dunno, I think people are just stupid. A lot of anime in the original Japanese have insanely irritating/grating voices that really start to bug me. At the same time, some are really well done. I don't think something getting dubbed in English automatically makes it worse, far from it.

Yeah it absolutely depends on the show and the talent behind the voice. I know I've seen some anime in Japanese that just didn't work for me, then seeing it in English helped. I'd say a lot of English dubbing gets it's bad name from back in the 90s when there was more bad dubs, than good.

These days, it's a different story. Just really depends on the show. (Like Death Note, can't stand it's English dub but mostly due to a few bad actors, not the entire cast.)

And Soul Eater is awesome. One of my favorites! And Tommy heavenly did the second opening theme. Just puttin' that out there.

[Peanut]

Sure did! I've got all the opening/closing themes from that show on my Ipod at this point, I loved all of them.

I actually liked the anime enough that I wanted to read the manga, but it kinda sucks that the volumes are so super far behind and so slow to be released. It's especially annoying considering the fact they have up to volume 13 or 14 available in frigging French over here.

[GK Punk]

That show had such a great Sound Track. It's funny I had no intention of watching it until the "Paper Moon" Single came out and I decided to check out the show. Normally she doesn't do a song for anime/manga that she's not a fan of. I really owe my love of that show to that song.

[Abnormal Freak]

Nobody called you stupid, although the rant you went off on certainly made you sound stupid.

You can like subs more than dubs all you like, anyone can, but to be one of "those kids" who prefers the "original un-bastardized" version of something REGARDLESS OF QUALITY makes you a huuuuuuuuge tool.

Ninjinister pretty much hit the nail on the head, even if he wants to be polite and won't outright admit it.

If given the option, would you watch English language cartoons in another language? I'm guessing not. I don't see what the big deal is of preferring the original language.

And I don't know why you and Ninjinister bring up this "regardless of quality" thing. I already stated I find most dubs I've heard rather atrocious, and even the good ones usually aren't as good as the original. Again, English dubs sound very stilted to me a lot of the time.

So, based on my experience with a lot of dubs (my friends were dub-only for yeeeaaars, and I watched tons of dubbed anime as a kid), I prefer subs and automatically go for that option. When I'm watching something, I care about original intent, and also don't care to go, "Oh, maybe this English dub will actually be good" and give it a whirl to see if I'd rather watch a movie or series that way. I have done that, and usually find the dub atrocious, so I switch back to Japanese.

[Luzmagica]

I prefer redubbed ...Thats the usual way for my country...!

[Peanut]

And I don't know why you and Ninjinister bring up this "regardless of quality" thing. I already stated I find most dubs I've heard rather atrocious, and even the good ones usually aren't as good as the original. Again, English dubs sound very stilted to me a lot of the time.

You make it sound like you have an incredible bias that won't allow you to enjoy a dub, whether it's good or not. I think that's the problem.

[Abnormal Freak]

I've liked quite a few dubs—but very rarely as much as the Japanese. ;) I grew up with the dubs for Vampire Hunter D and Macross Plus and think those are two examples of very good dubs. However, when I got them on DVD and watched them in Japanese for the first time, I've come to like and appreciate the original Japanese tracks so much more.

[愛]

Sure is weeaboo in this thread. Here we go. Ice cream on a torpedo roll. Only in Japan, baby. I wouldn't pay $3 for it, though.

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[GK Punk]

Sure is weeaboo in this thread.

Are you really that surprised?

[愛]

Are you really that surprised?

Not at all. I can just hear the mouth breathing all the way over the internet. lolololololol

[AleXviD]

I always prefer dubs over subs in those things, because I love English as much as I hate Japanese, even when I watch titles with really horrible dubs - early Ranma that is (seriously, Ranma guy voiced by a woman? That’s just plain bad). But for some reason, when it comes to Space Adventure Cobra it’s Japanese with subs all the way (except for the first Manga dub with Yello soundtrack, of course).

And when we talking redubs are we taking in account only dialog or soundtrack as well? Just asking ‘cuz I like dubbed opening in Suzuka way more the original.

[GK Punk]

Haha, I actually love early Ranma. Probably just out of nostalgia, I was 12 when those VHS came out. (I actually preordered the first VHS directly from Viz. Because I'm old.)