Should Krang be an utrom in the nick cartoon or look like in the Fred Wolf cartoon.

[Keldor1578]

Does anyone want Krang to be an utrom in the nickelodeon cartoon or a dismember head that look like a brain in the Fred Wolf cartoon.

[Powder]

None of that.

[BAXTER STOCKMAN 19]

I want him to be exactly the same he was in he original toon. I dont want sonething different. He must be in the same robotic body with the red pants he was in the ot toon and also he must be a alien head not a utrom!

[Jester]

Krang should be the code name of a long suffering website creator who tries to prove the Turtles are heroes and dispell the nasty rumors about them. :P

[Candy Kappa]

I'd prefer not seeing Krang in a new show.

But if he'd appear I'd like him to be a banished warlord that got stripped from his body, posing as a Utrom and as a benefitor of mankind. But he got horrible plans for the planet

dun, dun, duuuuu~

[Jester]

I'd prefer not seeing Krang in a new show.

But if he'd appear I'd like him to be a banished warlord that got stripped from his body, posing as a Utrom and as a benefitor of mankind. But he got horrible plans for the planet

dun, dun, duuuuu~
So kinda a combination of Krang and Dregg?

Or Krang and Utrom Shredder (to an extent)...:P

[Eiko]

If Krang was going to be in the Nick cartoon i would like him to be the way he is in the OT

[Icegaze]

None of that.
Amen. No Krang. No Ch'rell. Not even sure I'm down with alien invaisons anyway. I'd like a fringe science approach for the new series. More grounded. Something like the first and second TMNT movies.

[Jester]

If aliens invade...make them Horn-heads.

[Candy Kappa]

he could be a human brain in a tube, scheming for world domination... Or revenge

[BubblyShell22]

I'd rather Krang not be in the show, but if he has to be, I'd say make him an Utrom. I always liked them.

[FearlessLeader]

he could be a human brain in a tube, scheming for world domination... Or revenge

So 4Kids Baxter Stockman :twink:

[Venom]

Make him an Oot or it's moot.

[sdp]

I'd be ok with him being an evil utrom, it solves the problem of why is there this Utrom like character that isn't an utrom. Besides that I think I might prefer him not being one or him being a deformed Utrom to stay closer to his original character design. I'd also kinda like to see Ch'rell, not as shredder just a rogue Utrom.

[CrazySquirrel]

He should be an utrom but look like he did in the old show.

[TobTurn]

I vote for utrom. Makes much more sense if we look at the previous incarnations, but then again, this is a whole new thing so they can do whatever they want.

As for Ch'rell being in the new show and not being the Shredder: wouldn't really like that. Ch'rell as The Shredder or no Ch'rell at all.
I hope they'll do another cross-over movie/special, but I would really dislike it if the Nick-Shredder is the main villain and Ch'rell is there also, but gets defeaten by the Nick-Shredder. Would be kinda impossible though, as Ch'rell ís The Shredder and no-one else.. So, just Ch'rell as the main villain/Shredder or no Ch'rell.

He is the One True Shredder, so him being in the new show as non-Shredder would make me upset. But that's just how I feel about it :P

[Turo602]

Maybe he could be an evil utrom because he's ugly and deformed. You know, Ch'rell with a twist.

I once thought of Krang using Shredder as his new body when he dies or something. But I'm sure many people are already sick of Utrom Shredder.

[Candy Kappa]

He is the One True Shredder

in the 4Kids continuity, yes. But he ain't the definitive Shredder

[TobTurn]

in the 4Kids continuity, yes. But he ain't the definitive Shredder

No, the ORIGINAL Shredder would be Mirage-Shredder, although Ch'rell could crush him.
I still see Ch'rell as the One True Shredder, in comparison to all other Shredders. Even if he's not the original, he's the one who REALLY deserves the name.

[Utromshredderhater]

No, the ORIGINAL Shredder would be Mirage-Shredder, although Ch'rell could crush him.
I still see Ch'rell as the One True Shredder, in comparison to all other Shredders. Even if he's not the original, he's the one who REALLY deserves the name.

Ch'rell was nothing more than a shriveled up alien chewing gum hiding in a metal shell. He never should have been thought up and Tengu Shredder would crush him. Shredder should still be human though, And YES put Krang in and make him an utrom.

[TobTurn]

Ch'rell was nothing more than a shriveled up alien chewing gum hiding in a metal shell. He never should have been thought up and Tengu Shredder would crush him. Shredder should still be human though, And YES put Krang in and make him an utrom.

Ch'rell was an alien warlord who killed millions of people and let planets suffer, creator ánd destroyer of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. As seen is Same as it Never Was and Turtles Forever, he could easily defeat the Tengu Shredder and he almost destroyed all existence while the Tengu could only transform Earth.
He was the biggest threat to TMNT in general than any other thing ever was.

But that's not what this topic's about, we know each other's opinion now.
Let's get back on topic, and if you wanna go on with our discussion let's just pm :)

[Utromshredderhater]

Ch'rell was an alien warlord who killed millions of people and let planets suffer, creator ánd destroyer of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. As seen is Same as it Never Was and Turtles Forever, he could easily defeat the Tengu Shredder and he almost destroyed all existence while the Tengu could only transform Earth.
He was the biggest threat to TMNT in general than any other thing ever was.

But that's not what this topic's about, we know each other's opinion now.
Let's get back on topic, and if you wanna go on with our discussion let's just pm :)

Well, Here's the thing to all that. I Don't Care

[TobTurn]

Well, Here's the thing to all that. I Don't Care

Fine by me, but as I said: if you want to continue this conversation, let's pm. We're getting really off-topic now, so if you want to continue it, pm me, if not, don't and let's stop this.

[gobo]

Krang should be the code name of a long suffering website creator who tries to prove the Turtles are heroes and dispell the nasty rumors about them. :P
You're my hero, Jester Bueller! :D

[VaughnMichael]

I'd say they're not going to be like either.;)

[gobo]

I once thought of Krang using Shredder as his new body when he dies or something. But I'm sure many people are already sick of Utrom Shredder.
What issue of the Archie comic could have given you that idea? :P

[Turo602]

What issue of the Archie comic could have given you that idea? :P

I haven't read any of the comics exept for the first issue. Did that really happen?

[VaughnMichael]

Well since I can talk about it now.
At this point in the show (keep in mind things are not final) the Krang an evil alien race come to earth to try to take over the human race.
They have a giant building sort of like the utroms tcri building in the comics.
They have a mutation room that hey mutate the humans they abduct in.
At some point Shredder joins forces with them and trains them as the foot soldiers.
I'm going to asume this is how we get the robotic foot.

[gobo]

I haven't read any of the comics exept for the first issue. Did that really happen?
Krang had himself surgically mended to Saki's head while he was still alive. And, that same idea occurred to me as I read it, way back when. ;)
Well since I can talk about it now.
Dude! You forgot your disclaimer! :o Prepare yourself for some raw sue-age.


P.S. - I like that idea, with The Kraaang. Cliché, but still amusing.

[VaughnMichael]

Krang had himself surgically mended to Saki's head while he was still alive. And, that same idea occurred to me as I read it, way back when. ;)

Dude! You forgot your disclaimer! :o Prepare yourself for some raw sue-age.
I was e-mailed saying I can speak about what I saw in detail now.
It should be noted though that the show is "a mutation in progress".
That means not everything we saw is final.

[oldmanwinters]

Well since I can talk about it now.
At this point in the show (keep in mind things are not final) the Krang an evil alien race come to earth to try to take over the human race.
They have a giant building sort of like the utroms tcri building in the comics.
They have a mutation room that hey mutate the humans they abduct in.
At some point Shredder joins forces with them and trains them as the foot soldiers.
I'm going to asume this is how we get the robotic foot.

This is great! I love the idea of evil Utroms (or "Kraaangs" in this case). And a mutation room has loads of possibilities for awesome new characters or alternative versions of existing characters!

[VaughnMichael]

This is great! I love the idea of evil Utroms (or "Kraaangs" in this case). And a mutation room has loads of possibilities for awesome new characters or alternative versions of existing characters!
Think big ugly squidbillies.
They are slimey and can stand up and walk on their tentacles.
I wasn't to excited about their being more than one and them being called "The Krang" but I think it's something that could really grow on me.

[Venom]

Ugh, I'm not keen on the idea of the Kraaang. It sounds like a cheap cop out for the OT fans who asked "Why are there a bunch of Krangs" when the Utroms appeared in 2K3. If they want to keep the name as a moniker, hell, make the Kraaang a renegade group of Utrom scientists.

[Powder]

I like the idea a lot, whether or not it's executed properly is something else.

[gobo]

"a mutation in progress"
That's the disclaimer I meant. ;)

[sdp]

The Krangs? ugh. I'm ok with a Krang species and one Krang but not the species called the Krangs. I hope we get actual Utroms in the new show, I'd rather have Krang be an Utrom than no Utroms at all.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

He should be like Archie Krang.

[Redeemer]

I like the idea of THE Krang in general, but I think they are utroms and I hope they are or a closely related species

[Master Splinter]

I like the idea of THE Krang in general, but I think they are utroms and I hope they are or a closely related species

As a fan of everything TMNT, I really didn't want Krang or Utroms in the new show. We already got them in two very different incarnations of TMNT. I wanted something new and merging the two together to create a new character of species fills that appetite just fine. The Kraangs sound vicious and will serve as a great plot device for the new series.

-ms

[Andrew NDB]

I still see Ch'rell as the One True Shredder, in comparison to all other Shredders. Even if he's not the original, he's the one who REALLY deserves the name.

Why? Because he's at a higher power level? Ch'rell doesn't even have any motivation or character dimension/arc beyond just eeevil for eeevil's sake.

[Whitewolf89]

Amen. No Krang. No Ch'rell. Not even sure I'm down with alien invaisons anyway. I'd like a fringe science approach for the new series. More grounded. Something like the first and second TMNT movies.
I totally agree with you, Powder and Kiwamu The Kappa, Icegaze. I got enough of Krang in the OT and "Turtles Forever" to the point that the Kraangs that will be in the new series are good enough.

As for Ch'rell; well, the less said about him, the better. IMHO.

[Bauer536]

Krang should be an Utrom (Finally I got this correct), but is a runaway from Dimension X, hunted down by the good Utroms. My idea is for him to be a mix of Shredder meets Stockman. Have a brain of a scientist with the ability to build and train an army of evil Utroms. That would be interesting.

[Scoshan]

Might as well be an Utrom or something similar, he looks like one anyway I guess.

[Candy Kappa]

The Kraang being a race of jellyfoosh using exoskeletons, I so wanna see a Dalek homage

[ChetTurtle]

Well since I can talk about it now.
At this point in the show (keep in mind things are not final) the Krang an evil alien race come to earth to try to take over the human race.
They have a giant building sort of like the utroms tcri building in the comics.
They have a mutation room that hey mutate the humans they abduct in.
At some point Shredder joins forces with them and trains them as the foot soldiers.
I'm going to asume this is how we get the robotic foot.

Sounds good!... and kinda dark (mutation room made me think of horror movies)

If they want to keep the name as a moniker, hell, make the Kraaang a renegade group of Utrom scientists.

yes......YES!


I put OT Krang as my answer to the poll, and now reading this thread, regret it.

[Redeemer]

Sounds good!... and kinda dark (mutation room made me think of horror movies)



yes......YES!


I put OT Krang as my answer to the poll, and now reading this thread, regret it.

Its ok we all make mistakes:P

The more I read about the new TMNT the more excited I get

[Ninjinister]

We're already getting The Kraang so I doubt there'll be a dedicated character called Krang.

I want him to be exactly the same he was in he original toon. I dont want sonething different. He must be in the same robotic body with the red pants he was in the ot toon and also he must be a alien head not a utrom!

Then go watch the OT. There is zero reason to have something exactly the same in every way.

Well, Here's the thing to all that. I Don't Care
Can you be any more of a dick?

[Redeemer]

Then go watch the OT. There is zero reason to have something exactly the same in every way.

I could not agree with this more! I would not mind, no I would love to see Krang the character, but not as he was in the OT. I can see him as an utrom warlord who flees to earth and begins to build an empire on earth and teams up with shredder, dont mind seeing something like this, but I dont want the exact samething.

[ChromeDome]

A Krang-esque character would definitely be cool, but I'm more interested in seeing the new directions the Nickelodeon series go in. I'd rather not have the Nike series copy what the previous two series have done.

I think the occasional reference to the two other series is fine (e.g. in the 2k3 series when one Utrom complains about hating to walk on his tentacles and the other Utrom responding "Oh shut up Krang!") but I think this is a chance to do something cool, but different.

[BAXTER STOCKMAN 19]

He must be the same alien he was in the OT not utrom. And he must also uses the same robotic body he had in the 87 series( imean the one with red underpants and the glasses LOL!!)

[BAXTER STOCKMAN 19]

I was e-mailed saying I can speak about what I saw in detail now.
It should be noted though that the show is "a mutation in progress".
That means not everything we saw is final.

Can you post some new screenshots of the krangs to see them? We want to see them! please!!:D:D:D:):):)

[Venom]

He must be the same alien he was in the OT not utrom. And he must also uses the same robotic body he had in the 87 series( imean the one with red underpants and the glasses LOL!!)

Can you post some new screenshots of the krangs to see them? We want to see them! please!!:D:D:D:):):)

He's not going to be in the new series, rather he and the Oots are being amalgamated into a species of hostile aliens called the Kraang. They will also come to pilot robotic Foot soldier suits, similar to the robotic Foot soldiers in the old toon.

[Redeemer]

A Krang-esque character would definitely be cool, but I'm more interested in seeing the new directions the Nickelodeon series go in. I'd rather not have the Nike series copy what the previous two series have done.

I think the occasional reference to the two other series is fine (e.g. in the 2k3 series when one Utrom complains about hating to walk on his tentacles and the other Utrom responding "Oh shut up Krang!") but I think this is a chance to do something cool, but different.

Dont get me wrong I dont want a re-hash of either series, I jst like the idea of Krang, Evil alien that that is a scientist but hindered by his physical body. Who could go with or against shredder.

[Ninjinister]

He must be the same alien he was in the OT not utrom. And he must also uses the same robotic body he had in the 87 series( imean the one with red underpants and the glasses LOL!!)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3101/2851814771_38b1ff5e57.jpg

[sdp]

I wonder if how some like me feel about the Kraang is what the dromers felt when they realized no Krang/rocksteady/beebop/black stockman/utrom shredder in 2k3. If you browse the first threads on the forum you can see all the people raging over those details, I wonder if when this show is halfway through its run if the early posts will seem as silly as those early ones in the 2k3 forum.

[RiseAbove873]

Alien Brain!

[Tuxedo Moroboshi]

Honestly, I like the idea of him being an Utrom, but why is his appearance the basis for the other option? I see no reason why he can't both be an Utrom AND look like how he did in the MWS cartoon. Afterall, Krang's appearance in that cartoon is almost exactly what all the Utroms looked like in Volume 1 of the Mirage comics.

[TheCanadiandrome]

i fall into the "Alien Brain" crowd

[IamtheKnight]

After going through this thread, I change my opinion about Krang being an alien brain. It will be a nice comic touch.

[prometheanworks]

What if "The Kraang" are really an entire civilization of clone "Kraangs" and not a species at all?

Nevertheless, I love the idea of getting robo/explosive footsoldiers back (the difference of course being that they have Kraang pilots now).

[Andrew NDB]

After going through this thread, I change my opinion about Krang being an alien brain. It will be a nice comic touch.

Wouldn't that make it the antithesis of that, though?

[ninjitsu_magic_47]

Personally, I wouldn't mind, Utroms, or Ch'rell, being in the new series. I wouldn't actually mind him being the Shredder again either >.>a

[Bauer536]

Sorry. A Utrom Shredder. It just ruins things for me. I'm not sure if Nickelodeon will do that.

[Whitewolf89]

Personally, I wouldn't mind, Utroms, or Ch'rell, being in the new series. I wouldn't actually mind him being the Shredder again either >.>a
Hmmm, given that I think that Ch'rell, the Utrom Shredder was created by the 4Kids Production team (and thusly 4Kids Entertainment), I'm PRETTY sure that 4kids would still own the rights to that version of him, so Nick wouldn't use him even if they wanted to. Which they probably don't.

And while I don't really LIKE the Shredder, I'd MUCH prefer he be human, like he has been in all the comics, the Classic Toon and all of the movies that have been made thus far. But that's just me.:twink:

Sorry. A Utrom Shredder. It just ruins things for me. I'm not sure if Nickelodeon will do that.
Same opinion here, Bauer.

And while I didn't like the Utrom Shredder thing, either, like I said above, it was tolerable to me, for as long as the 2K3 series lasted. The version of Ol' Tin-grin that I personally didn't like was the Cyber-Shredder from Back to the Sewer. I mean, I KNOW he was an Utrom, and could pretty well imiate Utrom tech using what he had available to him here on Earth, but being able to use it to make a digial copy of himself was a little bit far-fetched to me...even for a TV series about 4 mutant Turtles and a mutant rat who are ninjas.:twink:

[gobo]

Hmmm, given that I think that Ch'rell, the Utrom Shredder was created by the 4Kids Production team (and thusly 4Kids Entertainment), I'm PRETTY sure that 4kids would still own the rights to that version of him, so Nick wouldn't use him even if they wanted to.
$60mil = Nick owns him now.

[Whitewolf89]

$60mil = Nick owns him now.
Smarty-aleck. Trust you to remember that.:trazz::tlol:

*makes playful face at her bro*

Still, I'M really hoping that they stash him in a real deep closet somewhere at the studio and tyotally forget his existance.

[CyberCubed]

Nick owns all TMNT characters, except for maybe some one-off ones.

[Whitewolf89]

Nick owns all TMNT characters, except for maybe some one-off ones.
Hmmmm, good point, Cyber. I'd totally forgotten that.

What about the Fred Wolf stuff (the Classic TMNT Stuff), though? Does Nick own those, or does Fred Wolf's company still have ownership of them?

[Jester]

Owns the characters, not the series.

Mirage owned the characters, and thus now Viacom does.

[Whitewolf89]

Owns the characters, not the series.

Mirage owned the characters, and thus now Viacom does.
Ah, okay. Thankies, Jester.