Scooby Doo: Mystery Incorporated

[ZariusTwo]

Anyone seen this cartoon? It's basicly Scooby-Doo done with a more grown up edge to it, kind of emulating Buffy, with genuine character progression and development and an ongoing storyline focusing on what happened to the first group to call themselves "Mystery Inc". Each of the Scooby gang go through relationship dramas and must make choices that sometimes hurt the people they care about, whilst encircling all this is the trademark "whodunnit" aspects of the franchise

The finale of the first season was a jaw-dropper. Fred unmasks the creep of Crystal Cove to reveal it's

His father, the mayor. Then he discovers he was abducted as a child and his real father is somewhere outside of town, so he breaks off his engagment to Daphne and leaves to search for them. Scooby discovers the mascot of the original Mystery Inc, a parrot, has the peice of the treasure the Mayor was seeking, and now Mystery Inc is disbanded with noone to stop him searching out the remaining four peices. In a moment of unexpected badassery, Scooby vows revenge

I recommend you seek out this series and take it all in, it makes you care about this franchise on a completly different scale.

[BubblyShell22]

Okay, where can this be viewed?

[Wildgoose]

I watched it on Youtube...It was something different than the other Scooby Doo shows. The only thing that annoyed me a little bit was that in some episodes they were showing the gang dealing with their romances and they were putting aside the investigations...

[gobo]

They turned Scooby into a soap opera? O_o

[Raph's Girl]

I just LOVE Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated!!!

It has an ongoing plot, some romance (Fred/Daphne, Velma/Shaggy till Shaggy dumps her for Scooby cuz he's not ready for a serious relationship...), they live in a different town (Crystal Cove).

Fred's dad is Fred Jones Sr, the Mayor who only became the mayor so he could continue being evil and look for the infamous treasure of crystal cove...yeah. Fred's real parents are the ORIGINAL Mystery Inc from 20 years earlier who had a parrot that betrayed them with Fred sr....but Fred sr turned the tables and sent the bird to Arkham Assylum for Animals that's outside of town. If you ever wondered where Joker's hyena's get sent to. Now you know. *lol*

Daphne's parents are rich and she's got like 4 older sisters who are identical to her. I swear they're all clones of the mom.

Velma's parents run the town museum which is full of costumes that the kids have solved over the last 40+ years. Altho there's also a statue of Scrappy (in his ONLY appearance in the show. Apperantly the kids made a pledge to never mention him ever again. *lol*) and Flim Flam (from the series 13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo which just had Shaggy, Scooby and Daphne. Fred explains his disapearance from that series by saying he was at summer camp *lol*)

Shaggy's parents are just...WEIRD rich people. His dad is voiced by Casey Kasem! :D

There's TONS of cameos by real people and fictional people. Crystal Cove has a college which has professors such as H.P. Lovecraft (or as Ellison calls him, Hatecraft), Harlan Ellison (he's attacked by Cthuhlu in his first appearance! *lol*), and Stephanie Meyer (her books in the show are called Dusk instead of Twilight *lol*)

I loved the ep where Scooby teams up with Speed Buggy, Jabberjaw, Captain Caveman and The Funky Phantom.

The eps have darker turns to them and people even die (mostly off screen but you can hear their screams).

My fave character has to be the Sherrif who's full name is revealed to be Sherrif Bronson Stone (his mom liked to plan things ahead of time. *lol*). He's voiced by Patrick Warburton and HATES that the kids are solving crimes before he does and constantly tries to arrest them. *lol*

But MAN the ending of the season. Woof. Things really hit the fan!! Can't wait for season 2!! :o

[Brodie]

They turned Scooby into a soap opera? O_o

No.

Its really not a huge-huge aspect of it. It exists, and occurs frequently, but is more attributed to character progression/development. Its substantially different than the previous Doo-incarnations, where Velma was just the brains, Fred was brave, and Shaggy & Scooby were hungry.

Its neat.

So, soap opera? ****ing no.

The humor in the show is pretty fantastic. Zarius mentioned it was akin to Buffy, as far as the continuity, and progression, etc. But there is a kind of Self-aware humor that exists in the show, alot like what occurred in Whedon's Buffy & Angel series...maybe more so Angel. But relating this to Whedon-esque in terms of humor seems like a disservice. Its actually a lot funnier, I've found.

I really love the design & animation. And Matthew Lillard as Shaggy is still really good.

[BubblyShell22]

Is this on cable or just on YouTube?

[Raph's Girl]

Is this on cable or just on YouTube?

It airs on Cartoon Network tuesday's at 7:30pm and wednesdays at 6pm.

[BubblyShell22]

Okay. I'll have to remember that and tune in.

[sdp]

This is NOT grown up Scooby Doo, its better written Scooby Doo; its still a kids show. I've only watched up to when they stopped airing new episodes last october but it was a blast and definitely one of my top Scooby shows, it plays with the Scooby tropes without becoming a parody. My only complain about it is that its trying to be a reboot to the franchise, and I don't like that I mean we've had one Scooby continuity since the show started, so far contradictions have been minor but hope they don't write stuff out of continuity. Yeah I know Scooby Doo and continuity I'm a sick bastard.

[Redeemer]

I love this show, its really unique and different. I love that they went back to a classic style for drawing, I jst love this show and cant wait to see the finale!!!

[Raph's Girl]

My only complain about it is that its trying to be a reboot to the franchise

That's just it. It's not a reboot. They ACKNOWLEDGE the past. The Crystal Cove museum has costumes and such of their past adventures from the 60's series and from some of the other shows as well such as 13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo. Heck Vincent Van Ghoul has a recurring role. Fred even mentioned the reason he wasn't around during that time was cuz he was at Summer Camp.

Yes the parents have different occupations (altho I still think Daphne's dad is a bubble bath baron) and yes they're in another town. But other then that it's basically a continuation of the original stuff.

I love that the show acknowledges the past. Scrappy was even acknowledged in one ep as something they would rather forget completly. *lol* And one of the characters, Alice May, is the supposad daughter of one of the villans of the past.

The show is basically full of love for the various other Hannah Barbara toons as well. From Captain Caveman to even Johnny Quest (still wanna know how Quest Industries fits into one of the subplots....hopefully that'll be dealt with in season 2).

[ThirdMarioBro]

Dear gawd, I'm actually tempted to watch a Scooby Doo cartoon of all things. What is the world coming to?

[Slap-Happy]

I watched that season finale, and all that came to mind was that the bird, Paracles, sounded kind of like Tommy Wiseau. And the fact that Frank Welker can still voice a teenager without my eyebrow being raised.

[Jester]

I watched that season finale, and all that came to mind was that the bird, Paracles, sounded kind of like Tommy Wiseau.
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[Redeemer]

Dear gawd, I'm actually tempted to watch a Scooby Doo cartoon of all things. What is the world coming to?

its coming to good writing and story telling:D

[NameGoesHere1066]

hmm, maybe I should give this another shot if it is this good. I was kind of put off with the whole Daphne swooning over Fred and he being blind to it and throwing Velma and Shaggy together of all things. I normally can't stand when you have an established group of friends that happen to be a mix of boys and girls and the writers feel the need to pair them up romantically.

Plus I was a little annoyed by Fred being infatuated with traps, I thought it was stupid. I've always liked Freddy and I feel that since the orginal series from the 60's ended writters have gotten in the habit of making him too goofy and dumb. So I thought this was more of the same fare. But from what I've read really sounds badass about him and all the characters. I think I'm definately going to look this up because there are so few shows out there right now with quality writting that still do the hand drawn/digital animtion thing well. I've really been impressed with this shows use of coloring and shadows.

[Raph's Girl]

hmm, maybe I should give this another shot if it is this good. I was kind of put off with the whole Daphne swooning over Fred and he being blind to it.

This is from the episode where Daphne gets so super pissed at Fred's obsessions with traps that well she goes a bit emo and writes a song about it!! I just LOVE The Hex Girls (they first appeared in the movie Scooby Doo and the Witch's Ghost and have appeared in several other Scooby Doo films and shows since). I just LOVE this song and Grey Delisle just plain rox!!

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[ZariusTwo]

Some second season details

-Fred's biological father will be voiced by Johnny Quest's original Voice Actor
-Blue Falcon and Dynomutt will be making an apperance

[Raph's Girl]

Some second season details

-Fred's biological father will be voiced by Johnny Quest's original Voice Actor
-Blue Falcon and Dynomutt will be making an apperance

That is so funny since Johnny Quest himself had a cameo in the first season! Tim Matheson also voiced Jace in Space Ghost.

Blue Falcon and Dynomutt?! SW33T!!!

Just looked something up. I had forgotten that Blue Falcon and Dynomutt (who was voiced by Frank Welker) did a bunch of team ups in the 70's!

[Redeemer]

when is the second season going to appear???

[Raph's Girl]

when is the second season going to appear???

Season 2 will be in 2012 or 2013... there's no set release date and apperantly it takes a year to produce 26 new episodes.

[Redeemer]

Season 2 will be in 2012 or 2013... there's no set release date and apperantly it takes a year to produce 26 new episodes.

Really????crap they had such an epic season finale and now we have to wait for ever :ohwell:

[Hero]

Any more news regarding this? 2012 is only around the corner.

===HERO

[Raph's Girl]

Any more news regarding this? 2012 is only around the corner.

===HERO

Nope. Not a word. :/ I have a feeling we won't see any new eps till at least 2013. Especially if it takes a year to do a 26 ep season.

[Hero]

I hope no interest is lost during the wait then.

===HERO

[Raph's Girl]

I hope no interest is lost during the wait then.

===HERO

There might be some interest lost. I mean heck look at what happened to Iron Man Armored Adventures. It was on hiatus for like a year and a half. Most people completly forgot about it. Heck I didn't think it would ever come back.

[Cowabunga Carl]

I just discovered this and started watching it online. It's a really fun show. I like that it takes the gang a little more seriously yet stays true to who they are. I've just got done with episode 13 I believe it was.

[Luke795]

It has been confirmed that Season 2 will start in May 2012! Here's where I found this:
http://www.warnerbros.com/tv/on-air/scooby-doo-mystery-incorporated/9f845f22-ee1a-4adb-a8d2-fbf3d6794f72.htmlWB

[Hero]

Splendid news, that.

===HERO

[stormbringer]

I'm glad its coming back in May, its hard enough waiting after a cliffhanger season finale under normal circumstances, but if we had to wait till 2013.....

[Redeemer]

Hell Yeah!!!!!cant wait for the new season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!So glad its not going to take a year like everyone thought it would

[Raph's Girl]

Hell Yeah!!!!!cant wait for the new season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!So glad its not going to take a year like everyone thought it would

Well May is ALMOST a year. Season 1 finale was in July!

Either way I can't wait!! Crossovers ahoy!

[oldmanwinters]

This is the first time I've been anxiously awaiting a new season of Scooby-Doo!

[Redeemer]

This is the first time I've been anxiously awaiting a new season of Scooby-Doo!

Hopefully it wont b the last :P

[Hero]

Agreed. The show is too good to die young.

[Raph's Girl]

Ok so Season 2 starts in a month. HOWEVER if you can find it the season 2 premier was leaked online at the end of March.

Yes I've seen it, yes it's awesome Mark Hamill as an evil clown!!! FTW!! Also, there's an amusing reference to Watchmen. And Daphne is now dating Taylor Lautner. *lol* :D

The episode is called The Night The Clown Cried

[TurtleTitan97]

No way! That was Hamill who voiced Cry Baby Clown?! I can't belive I didn't pay attention to see how his voice sounded like DCAU Joker! I like this episode even more! :)

[oldmanwinters]

Ok so Season 2 starts in a month. HOWEVER if you can find it the season 2 premier was leaked online at the end of March.

Yes I've seen it, yes it's awesome Mark Hamill as an evil clown!!! FTW!! Also, there's an amusing reference to Watchmen. And Daphne is now dating Taylor Lautner. *lol* :D

The episode is called The Night The Clown Cried

Good, it's about time for some new Scooby-Doo. This 2nd season should definitely break new ground in Scooby-Lore.

[Redeemer]

So.....its june and no new Episodes....wonder who dropped the ball on this??????:ohwell:

[Jester]

Yes, it's been June for all of a week. Dial it back a tad, sir.

[Redeemer]

Yes, it's been June for all of a week. Dial it back a tad, sir.

New eps were suppose to air in May, I have not seen any new eps, have you???? I would understand you comment if I posted this the first week of May, its June I have not even seen or heard anything about new eps. So for future reference please use logic b4 typing

[Raph's Girl]

New eps were suppose to air in May, I have not seen any new eps, have you???? I would understand you comment if I posted this the first week of May, its June I have not even seen or heard anything about new eps. So for future reference please use logic b4 typing

Blame cartoon network. For some reason eps have been pulled back. No word now on when they'll be airing. All we got was the Crybaby Clown ep back in March.

[Raph's Girl]

Just a heads up that new eps of Mystery Inc have been airing in the UK! First 5 eps of season 2 so far.. They won't be airing in the U.S till July!

[Redeemer]

Just a heads up that new eps of Mystery Inc have been airing in the UK! First 5 eps of season 2 so far.. They won't be airing in the U.S till July!

Thanks for the update! Keep up the good work

[Cowabunga Carl]

So excited for season 2. I still need to pick season one up still on DVD.

[ZariusTwo]

The Dreamweaver ep was hilarious, but how they nabbed him was just nightmare fuel.

Scooby Doo: CONFESS!:lol:

[Cowabunga Carl]

I don't know how I missed that this had started up again. Catching up on it now. Man this has to be my favorite Scooby show.

[Raph's Girl]

Only 5 eps of Season 2 have aired in the UK. Supposadly season 2 will start up in the states at the end of the month (July 30th to be exact).

[Cowabunga Carl]

Yeah I saw it online, I guess I didn't look to see if it was on TV. It is great. Loving the writing of the new season so far.

[Redeemer]

Hey new episodes coming July 30th http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/scooby-doo-mystery-incorporated-season-two-23818/

[Raph's Girl]

Just a heads up that Cartoon Network (in the U.S) is airing new eps of Scooby Doo Mystery Inc DAILY (Mon - Fri) at 2pm ET/PT! I missed season 2 episode 6 (which aired this afternoon) darnit but I sure as heck aint gonna miss the rest!!

[ZariusTwo]

Burning through the second season every day in a slot that's not even prime-time? Yeah this show's boned.

[Hero]

I've no idea how far into S2 the UK is. Seen the first 5 eps so far

[ZariusTwo]

I've no idea how far into S2 the UK is. Seen the first 5 eps so far

That's all we've had so far, so not missing much.

[ZariusTwo]

This show has raised the stake further by

Killing Cassidy off in an explosion

[oldmanwinters]

This show has raised the stake further by

Killing Cassidy off in an explosion

Man, I'm so disappointed I missed the start date on these eps. I don't even want to watch it now because I've missed so much of the early season. Maybe they'll rerun the episodes at some point?

[Raph's Girl]

Man, I'm so disappointed I missed the start date on these eps. I don't even want to watch it now because I've missed so much of the early season. Maybe they'll rerun the episodes at some point?

After this week they'll be reruning the eps for those who missed em. Cartoon Network is so weird. :/

[oldmanwinters]

After this week they'll be reruning the eps for those who missed em. Cartoon Network is so weird. :/

Looks like I better start setting my VCR (yes, I am hopelessly behind the times)!

[ZariusTwo]

The Quests, Blue Falcon and Dynomutt have now appeared. Combine that with the dream cameos of Captain Caveman and Jabberjaw and you've got quite an ensemble not seen since the peak of Harvey Birdman!:)

[JonesyKitty]

I freakin love this show. Ive always been a Scooby fan but i am glad they made a show with a little more edge. the episode with the SAW themed traps was actually pretty creepy, i guess its more along the fact that they are kids characters that are being drowned and almost butchered to death but over all still loved that episode :P

[Hero]

Any idea when this will be back on TV?

[cACHI]

i like the fact velma is a slut

[Raph's Girl]

Any idea when this will be back on TV?

Well the first 15 eps of Season 2 have aired in the U.S. I think they're just waiting for the UK to catch up.

[ZariusTwo]

I love the whole "Nibru" thing,. that's gonna drive some paranoid conspiracy nuts wild on Youtube.

The nods to Frank Miller in the Blue Falcon episode, "The Dog Must Die"...man this show is getting intense

[oldmanwinters]

I love the whole "Nibru" thing,. that's gonna drive some paranoid conspiracy nuts wild on Youtube.

The nods to Frank Miller in the Blue Falcon episode, "The Dog Must Die"...man this show is getting intense

Gah, the Blue Falcon is the one I haven't seen yet! I need to check my listings as to when it will air again.

[Raph's Girl]

Gah, the Blue Falcon is the one I haven't seen yet! I need to check my listings as to when it will air again.

Blue Falcon and Dynomut are also gonna be in one of the made for DVD Scooby animated films. Mask of the Blue Falcon comes out next year. The trailer for it is attached to the DVD of Big Top Scooby Doo (which was out for a limited release last month and will be out again in more stores in 2 weeks):

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[shinefra]

What was the last episode they aired?

[Raph's Girl]

What was the last episode they aired?

The last one aired in the U.S was season 2 episode 15 "Theater of Doom"

[shinefra]

The last one aired in the U.S was season 2 episode 15 "Theater of Doom"

I really been missing lots of episodes :o

[ZariusTwo]

Good news everyone, the series returns for it's final run of episodes on Jan 27th with the episode "Aliens Among Us".

[oldmanwinters]

Good news everyone, the series returns for it's final run of episodes on Jan 27th with the episode "Aliens Among Us".

It's about time!

I'll be looking forward to this.

[Raph's Girl]

Heads up folks. The final eps of the series will be airing weeknights on Cartoon Network starting Monday (March 25th) at 5pm ET.

Altho episodes 16 - 18 have already aired in Canada (with ep 19 airing tomorrow in Canada).

Interesting to note that ep 18 features the return of the Hex Girls! :D Also apparently we're getting 2 eps on the 25th.

[ZariusTwo]

Wow...that ending was....pretty "wham" wasnt it?

Reminded me a bit of Mighty Max's series finale with the grand cosmic retcon at the end.

All I know is conspiracy loons like David Icke are probably having a field day working out this show....Annunaki? Death and reincarnation in alternate realitys? I play about a lot with this New Age stuff, so I'm just fascinated that this show covered it with a brave face.

[Raph's Girl]

I totally loved this show and am sad to see it end. But MAN what an ending!! I wonder if we'll be getting a spin off now with the gang solving mysteries with Harlan Ellison?? And I totally groaned over the names of Bronson and the Mayor's kids. Eastwood, Norris, Billy Jack, and Lynda Carter. :lol:

[TurtleTitan97]

I totally loved this show and am sad to see it end. But MAN what an ending!!

I totally agree. It's gonna take one heck of a writer for the next Scooby Doo cartoon to top this series. Mystery Incorporated was, in my opinion, the best Scooby Doo cartoon to date. It's sad to see it go, but I'm glad they wrapped everything up nicely.:tsmile:

[CyberCubed]

Just curious, why is this show ending for what is likely going to be yet another Scooby Doo series in the near future?

Damn, WB rehashes Scooby Doo as much as they do Batman.

[Bauer536]

I totally agree. It's gonna take one heck of a writer for the next Scooby Doo cartoon to top this series. Mystery Incorporated was, in my opinion, the best Scooby Doo cartoon to date. It's sad to see it go, but I'm glad they wrapped everything up nicely.:tsmile:

Seriously. Why do some of you guys like this series? I need to know.

I watched a clip of an episode recently, and I found some it make me cringe. First off, Velma as a slut really goes too far. Secondly, why is Fred dumbed down like this? And how on Earth can he build traps, and yet, tries putting an 8-track on a turntable? I'd like a good show, but this is by no means true to the characters.

[TurtleTitan97]

Seriously. Why do some of you guys like this series? I need to know.

I watched a clip of an episode recently, and I found some it make me cringe. First off, Velma as a slut really goes too far. Secondly, why is Fred dumbed down like this? And how on Earth can he build traps, and yet, tries putting an 8-track on a turntable? I'd like a good show, but this is by no means true to the characters.

It made Scooby into the one thing he hasn't`been in years: Awesome. The show may not be perfect, but its well written storyline and tone make MI stand out from past Scooby Doo cartoons.

[Bauer536]

It made Scooby into the one thing he hasn't`been in years: Awesome. The show may not be perfect, but its well written storyline and tone make MI stand out from past Scooby Doo cartoons.

I gotta admit: I watched clips from a few episodes recently, and I was wrong. It's a decent show. Not the original, but still fun. Now and then, I feel Fred is just oblivious. However, how could someone think he can be a dunderhead and yet make these traps? That's genius work. Plus, after watching a few clips from A Pup Named Scooby Doo, Fred Jones is not that dumb in this as I thought. He's just a bit crazy now and then. However, he does stay true to who he is solving mysteries. He was never my favorite character (Shaggy steals the show:twink:), but it's good he has a big role for the gang.

[Redeemer]

So I finally finished this show via Netflix so I am bumping it from the dead :lol:
This show was really good, but I didn't care for the ending.....
The alternate universe crap never works for me.....its really annoying, pretty much a cop out. It leaves everything undone. The consequences of the characters and writers go out the window.... I believe the alternate universe they were sent to or created actually led them to a universe of a previous series such as the original series. Any way the final few episodes were disappointing. But I just don't like big cosmo BS such as the 2nd season of Legend of Korra.

The full series is currently on Netflix if anyone wants to watch it.

[Leofan26]

Just curious, why is this show ending for what is likely going to be yet another Scooby Doo series in the near future?

Damn, WB rehashes Scooby Doo as much as they do Batman.

You've got to get used to from now on Cybs, it's always sadly going to be like that from now on.

It all started with What's New Scooby - Doo? Series, now they've been doing ever since, surprised your just noticing these things :P

The 80s Scooby - Doo shows to the 90 flicks were all connected, well don't know about the 13 Ghosts yet. Some fans say after those events the group got memories whipped and took Flim Flam with him but till we get confirmation on that by Scooby writers it's all fan theories :lol:

[Redeemer]

The 80s Scooby - Doo shows to the 90 flicks were all connected, well don't know about the 13 Ghosts yet. Some fans say after those events the group got memories whipped and took Flim Flam with him but till we get confirmation on that by Scooby writers it's all fan theories :lol:

What????How are they all connected???? and what the hell are you talking about Flim Flam wiping there minds?????:o

[sdp]

I'll open the can of worms that is SD continuity

All Scooby shows are definitely in continuity, now I have only seen the first few episodes of Mystery Inc (best scooby show based on those that I've seen, highly recommend it) but MI did try to reboot the franchise however after I watch it I'm sure it can be squeezed somewhere since its filled with easter eggs of all the previous Scooby shows. I'll definitely tackle them or count it as separate if it cant be. (no spoilers for MI please)

Anyway as far as continuity, all the shows are pretty much in continuity without question until A pup named scooby doo. Many people say this show contradicts the timeline since it has 80s (current at the time) technology, but you just have to ignore that like you do with superheroes. Also the setting of the show is clearly a hybrid of the 60s and 80s with plenty of references to the 60s which fits the timeline just fine.
Then we had no real SD until the 90s movies which also seem in continuity with the show since the first one is pretty much a sequel after they took a long hiatus of solving crime and are now adults. The problem is they meet monsters and they're surprised they're real. A few people say it's only a sequel to the pre-Scrappy era cartoons mostly because they want to get rid of Scrappy and they meet real monsters in the Scrappy era cartoons. But technically only Shaggy/Scooby/Daphne(only in 13 ghosts) ever see them each time they see monsters they act shocked that they're real so it's not as big of a problem as people make it out to be. You can always say Vincent Van Ghoul wiped their memories. It's also not like they say in the movie "It's the first time the monsters are real" That was only the marketing slogan which is meaningless.
The problem does get worse because in those movies as adults they meet the Hex Girls for the first time, and we then get a new show "What's new SD" in which the gang seem to be teenagers and not adults anymore, no problem it just goes before the movies, except that they meet the Hex Girls and use current (early 00's) technology. So either they're adults and act like kids again or the show just takes place, I don't even remember the Hex Girls appearances so maybe it's not event hat big of a continuity flub, and the technology well you just have to get over that. They actually have a flashback to when they were kids and it shows the A pup Named SD designs. Which if you want to have two timelines it works since A pup was also set in the 80s which would make them teens in the early 2000's. I came up with that but I prefer to have them all in one timeline, this is SD for godsake not some epic story that needs different versions of SD.

So yeah, the biggest problems with making all the shows in continuity is each show has evidence to be set around the time the show was made, the seeing real monsters before thing and the Hex girls. Plenty of shows with actual stricter continuity make bigger errors.

As for Scooby getting many shows as Batman, WB thinks very highly of the franchise and puts it next to Bugs Bunny and Superman/Batman in terms of importance, they had a mural that had Supes/Bats/Bugs and Scooby.

[Redeemer]

I can definitely say believe that Mystery inc is a prequel to the original shows. (Where are you Scooby-Doo)(Scooby-Doo show)
But that show really kind bashed on (13 Ghost) and scrappy specifically pretty much trying to ban his use in continuity. :lol:


The only thing with Mystery inc I did not like was the ending, it pretty much killed the show for me.

[ZariusTwo]

Despite loving MI, I don't consider anything past 13 Ghosts to be "proper" canon, mainly because of the quality and sliding timescale issues. I like to think Shaggy and Daphne hooked up (which is implied in 13 Ghosts anyway) and raised a family with Scooby and Scrappy as their pets.

[Redeemer]

Despite loving MI, I don't consider anything past 13 Ghosts to be "proper" canon, mainly because of the quality and sliding timescale issues. I like to think Shaggy and Daphne hooked up (which is implied in 13 Ghosts anyway) and raised a family with Scooby and Scrappy as their pets.
I never finished 13 ghost, so I can speculate, but sounds interesting. I will definitely need to watch it.:D

I never considered scooby-doo to have an actual canon, Except for The first two shows, "Where are you Scooby-Doo,Scooby-Doo Show", but after watching Mystery inc, especially the ending it makes me believe this would be the actual beginning of the Scooby-Doo universe/timeline.

[Leofan26]

Despite loving MI, I don't consider anything past 13 Ghosts to be "proper" canon, mainly because of the quality and sliding timescale issues. I like to think Shaggy and Daphne hooked up (which is implied in 13 Ghosts anyway) and raised a family with Scooby and Scrappy as their pets.

I don't consider any thing canon in What's New Scooby - Doo? And up, none of it would make sense :lol:

I at least can see the 90s films apart of the 80s series but...

Hmm Nice to see a Shaggy x Daph fan on these forums, I'm sort of one myself :D

[sdp]

It makes perfect sense though, especially on a show with such loose continuity as SD. What's new even has a flashback to a Pup named SD, and the Hex Girls appear in various of the shows. None of the writers of SD think about continuity when writing SD and if you think about it all shows are really just sequels to the original show, but yet continuity isn't a mess, Batman, superheroes in general, the Flintstones, Power Rangers wish they had continuity problems as small as SD does.

As far as 13 Ghosts of SD, it's an interesting show, definitely different than the usual SD show, too bad it was cancelled and the show never got a finale. And no, there is no Shaggy/Daphne romance in it, that's just wishful thinking.

[Leofan26]

It makes perfect sense though, especially on a show with such loose continuity as SD. What's new even has a flashback to a Pup named SD, and the Hex Girls appear in various of the shows. None of the writers of SD think about continuity when writing SD and if you think about it all shows are really just sequels to the original show, but yet continuity isn't a mess, Batman, superheroes in general, the Flintstones, Power Rangers wish they had continuity problems as small as SD does.

As far as 13 Ghosts of SD, it's an interesting show, definitely different than the usual SD show, too bad it was cancelled and the show never got a finale. And no, there is no Shaggy/Daphne romance in it, that's just wishful thinking.

That's why I consider nothing to What's New Scooby - Doo? Series canon, once that series came every thing got more crazy :lol:

Hex Girls in the What's New Scooby - Doo? Series made even less sense, they were adults in the 90s films and are teens in the new series. I try not to connect these series. I don't know what the new writers were thinking in brining back the Hex Girls that way? :lol:

Yah, even if a short series they could have at least given it an actual ending.
I'd be fine if they returned to that series and had the next direct to DVD movie be about the final instead, but....

I wonder how big the Shaggy / Daph fandom was during the Scrappy times? She traveled with him without Fred for a while.

[TMNT_Guy]

That's why I consider nothing to What's New Scooby - Doo? Series canon
I personally consider What's New Scooby-Doo? to be the last series in the original Scooby-Doo canon. It's just continuing what was set up in Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island, the gang now as adults continuing to solve mysteries.

Now if we’re talking about Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated then I agree that show is not canon and if anything it's a reboot.

[sdp]

Well I finally saw all the show on Netflix and I was a bit disappointed, the story arc mysteries each season were rather boring. The episodes while fun weren't as fun as I remembered, its still a good Scooby cartoon but far from one of the best like I used to consider it. The story arc is just so dumb. I didn't love the show but its a good Scooby show, it ran for 52 episodes and completed the story arcs for the most part so I don't feel sad it was "cancelled" it was technically the longest Scooby shows that exist.

As far as continuity well this show throws a wrench into any continuity we had, what's worse is that it doesn't even work as a reboot since it clearly references all the past shows. This show would have to take place after all the previous Scooby shows but it doesn't work since they're still in High School, I just don't know how to even fix that unless we use some of that Deus ex Machina ending the second season had.

I don't care what people say but the new show might be a good breath of fresh air.

[Redeemer]

Well I finally saw all the show on Netflix and I was a bit disappointed, the story arc mysteries each season were rather boring. The episodes while fun weren't as fun as I remembered, its still a good Scooby cartoon but far from one of the best like I used to consider it. The story arc is just so dumb. I didn't love the show but its a good Scooby show, it ran for 52 episodes and completed the story arcs for the most part so I don't feel sad it was "cancelled" it was technically the longest Scooby shows that exist.

As far as continuity well this show throws a wrench into any continuity we had, what's worse is that it doesn't even work as a reboot since it clearly references all the past shows. This show would have to take place after all the previous Scooby shows but it doesn't work since they're still in High School, I just don't know how to even fix that unless we use some of that Deus ex Machina ending the second season had.

I don't care what people say but the new show might be a good breath of fresh air.

Yeah that damn ending really aggravates me. If they had just had a better ending this would have probably ended up as my favorite scooby doo cartoon, but ugh.....they had to pull that Deus ex Machina bs....

[Davetello]

Halfway through the first season of this. Not really a Scooby fan but I heard this show is very good and makes attempts at serial storytelling. It's obviously good considering I watched 14 episodes consecutively yesterday. Enjoying it a lot. I haven't read through the thread yes so as to avoid potential spoilers.

[Redeemer]

Halfway through the first season of this. Not really a Scooby fan but I heard this show is very good and makes attempts at serial storytelling. It's obviously good considering I watched 14 episodes consecutively yesterday. Enjoying it a lot. I haven't read through the thread yes so as to avoid potential spoilers.

Wow sounds like you are enjoying it :lol:
First season definitely better. Second season is just a little out there as far as a scooby-doo story, but you might enjoy season 2 even more if you like bombastic stories. But season 2 definitely builds on from season 1.

[Davetello]

Wow sounds like you are enjoying it :lol:
First season definitely better. Second season is just a little out there as far as a scooby-doo story, but you might enjoy season 2 even more if you like bombastic stories. But season 2 definitely builds on from season 1.

Thanks for letting me know mate. I haven't seen any more episodes because I've been spending time with family and then when I did get free time I had a massive migraine. But I will be watching again soon. I will certainly watch all 52 eps, then I will read this topic in its entirety.

[turtlefanforever]

Finished this show on netflix this morning. Really enjoyed it. Fine there was no season 3. i think it ended perfectly.

[drgon78]

I love this show, wish there was at least a third season.

[turtlefanforever]

I love this show, wish there was at least a third season.

The story had been finished. This show ended at the right time. You can't say that about many shows.

[Spike Spiegel]

I liked seeing this on Netflix in HD. Hopefully Warner Archive will eventually put it on Blu-ray.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Ditto; if they can see a profit in releasing Teen Titans Go! on Blu-ray then they sure as hell can release this.

[drgon78]

I would love a blu ray release of this. In fact there are a ton of series I would like to see a blu ray release for.

[ranger_scout]

This is flat-out ridiculous and gross on a multitude of levels! :mad: :sick:

Scooby and Shaggy
Scooby-Doo, Where Are You?

I know what you're thinking: Scooby's a dog and Shaggy is more or less a human, to which I say: SHUSH!!!! Besides, the moment Scooby started talking and wearing elaborate disguises, all bets were off. Do Shag and Scoob have a traditional romance? Perhaps not, but nothing comes between the love of a boy and his dog — certainly not Velma Dinkley, Shaggy's alleged love interest (https://hanna-barbera.fandom.com/wiki/Shaggy_Rogers#Velma_Dinkley) during one of the Mystery Inc. gang's many iterations. Velma's got her own thing going on and like everyone else she could see that Shaggy and Scooby were made for each other.

Drawn together: The best animated romances on TV (https://ew.com/tv/best-animated-romances-on-tv/)

[ProphetofGanja]

I wish they would do another season of this show. Or even just a comic book continuation or sumn

[sdp]

I'll open the can of worms that is SD continuity

All Scooby shows are definitely in continuity, now I have only seen the first few episodes of Mystery Inc (best scooby show based on those that I've seen, highly recommend it) but MI did try to reboot the franchise however after I watch it I'm sure it can be squeezed somewhere since its filled with easter eggs of all the previous Scooby shows. I'll definitely tackle them or count it as separate if it cant be. (no spoilers for MI please)

Anyway as far as continuity, all the shows are pretty much in continuity without question until A pup named scooby doo. Many people say this show contradicts the timeline since it has 80s (current at the time) technology, but you just have to ignore that like you do with superheroes. Also the setting of the show is clearly a hybrid of the 60s and 80s with plenty of references to the 60s which fits the timeline just fine.
Then we had no real SD until the 90s movies which also seem in continuity with the show since the first one is pretty much a sequel after they took a long hiatus of solving crime and are now adults. The problem is they meet monsters and they're surprised they're real. A few people say it's only a sequel to the pre-Scrappy era cartoons mostly because they want to get rid of Scrappy and they meet real monsters in the Scrappy era cartoons. But technically only Shaggy/Scooby/Daphne(only in 13 ghosts) ever see them each time they see monsters they act shocked that they're real so it's not as big of a problem as people make it out to be. You can always say Vincent Van Ghoul wiped their memories. It's also not like they say in the movie "It's the first time the monsters are real" That was only the marketing slogan which is meaningless.
The problem does get worse because in those movies as adults they meet the Hex Girls for the first time, and we then get a new show "What's new SD" in which the gang seem to be teenagers and not adults anymore, no problem it just goes before the movies, except that they meet the Hex Girls and use current (early 00's) technology. So either they're adults and act like kids again or the show just takes place, I don't even remember the Hex Girls appearances so maybe it's not event hat big of a continuity flub, and the technology well you just have to get over that. They actually have a flashback to when they were kids and it shows the A pup Named SD designs. Which if you want to have two timelines it works since A pup was also set in the 80s which would make them teens in the early 2000's. I came up with that but I prefer to have them all in one timeline, this is SD for godsake not some epic story that needs different versions of SD.

So yeah, the biggest problems with making all the shows in continuity is each show has evidence to be set around the time the show was made, the seeing real monsters before thing and the Hex girls. Plenty of shows with actual stricter continuity make bigger errors.

As for Scooby getting many shows as Batman, WB thinks very highly of the franchise and puts it next to Bugs Bunny and Superman/Batman in terms of importance, they had a mural that had Supes/Bats/Bugs and Scooby.

Based

It makes perfect sense though, especially on a show with such loose continuity as SD. What's new even has a flashback to a Pup named SD, and the Hex Girls appear in various of the shows. None of the writers of SD think about continuity when writing SD and if you think about it all shows are really just sequels to the original show, but yet continuity isn't a mess, Batman, superheroes in general, the Flintstones, Power Rangers wish they had continuity problems as small as SD does.

As far as 13 Ghosts of SD, it's an interesting show, definitely different than the usual SD show, too bad it was cancelled and the show never got a finale. And no, there is no Shaggy/Daphne romance in it, that's just wishful thinking.

Based
Well I finally saw all the show on Netflix and I was a bit disappointed, the story arc mysteries each season were rather boring. The episodes while fun weren't as fun as I remembered, its still a good Scooby cartoon but far from one of the best like I used to consider it. The story arc is just so dumb. I didn't love the show but its a good Scooby show, it ran for 52 episodes and completed the story arcs for the most part so I don't feel sad it was "cancelled" it was technically the longest Scooby shows that exist.

As far as continuity well this show throws a wrench into any continuity we had, what's worse is that it doesn't even work as a reboot since it clearly references all the past shows. This show would have to take place after all the previous Scooby shows but it doesn't work since they're still in High School, I just don't know how to even fix that unless we use some of that Deus ex Machina ending the second season had.

I don't care what people say but the new show might be a good breath of fresh air.

Ironically now with the Return to Zombie Island and 13th ghost films that retcon the adult selves of the scooby gang actually being teenagers at the time makes Mystery inc fit in continuity with the resto f the show, all of Scooby Doo is canon. The only downside to my mad theory being correct is that they had to retcon the adult versions of the gang so now they've always been and always will be teenagers in a sliding timeline like superheroes.

There's a Scooby Doo comic, forget which issue, which makes the multiverse thing explicit

I love expanded universe stories through comic books, don't get me wrong but Scooby Doo comics in general are not canon, they're usually ridiculous with writers who don't care.
The comic you mention specifically is even more ridiculous than normal, it has Scooby aDoo crossing over with Hanna Barbera characters every issue including most DC superheroes, sso you see the Mystery Inc gang in literal Space with Green Lantern fighting Sinestro, meeting Roman Gods, flying with Superman and whatnot as equals. And I mean everyone from HB, including Flintstones, JOnny Quest, Penelope Pitstop, Yogi the Bear.

So yeah, the multiverse comic you mention is from that same silly comic when they meet up with Batmite who gets multiverse batmans and scooby gangs. I mean most of those depicted "multiverse versions" of the characters are clearly from the same continuities. So yeah noncanon.

[Wildcat]

I’m currently watching Mystery Inc. I recorded all the reruns on Boomerang since I had never seen it and know it’s one of the more popular versions. Only a few episodes in though.

What I would like to give my thoughts on is the Curse of the 13th Ghost. I make it a point to watch every DTV movie CN airs and they showed it recently. Before watching it I went back to see the first 13 episodes so I could better understand and get all the call backs. They’re free on Tubi.

Some are legitimately cool like the Zomba episode but some are ridiculous with the 80s parody and goofiness (Scooby’s parents have their own house?!) Also there’s clearly an error with the Cruise Ship episode because the ghost is shown coming out of the chest of demons when it supposed to be out.

It’s cool to revisit this storyline decades later since they were 1 short but it’s also weird they just didn’t finish it back then.

Anyway about the movie. Not gonna use spoiler tags since it’s from 2019. I know some did not like the ending but I think the final ghost turning good after being trapped is a nice turn of events.

My problem is with the overall movie. It starts really good (Fred and Velma taken by surprise, The Miss-tery Machine) but it could have been so much better.

Since the villain is really Vincent Van Ghouls old partner in disguise they should have included the actual 13th ghost into the chase. They could have played around with the idea of it helping them figure things out and would have added mystery to the situation. Is he evil? Are there 2?

Second it should have had Scrappy. He could have stayed with Flim Flam. It’s the perfect explanation for why he stopped hanging out with them. It’s bizarre that a main character from that series is totally ignored (except for the stupid joke they made).

Do people really hate Scrappy that much? I liked him as a kid but I understand getting rid of him. This was the perfect time to address it.

Also should have included the 2 white ghosts (forget the names) that followed them causing trouble. They tricked Shaggy into opening the chest because they wanted recognition from other ghosts.

Given the setup and how long it’s been this could have been a really cool finale to that show. It was never my favorite but after watching it order I’ll admit I became emotionally invested. Haha. Normally I really like the DTV movies.

[ZariusTwo]

Do people really hate Scrappy that much? I liked him as a kid but I understand getting rid of him. This was the perfect time to address it

Revisionist historians blame the temporary end of the franchise on him, but he actually helped save the show's ratings at the time when he was introduced.

I don't consider the 13th Ghost movie a proper 'canonical' ending in the same way I don't count any of the DTV movies any longer. To me they're part of the multiverse. The original franchise/timeline ended on 13 Ghosts and to my mind Shaggy, Daph, Flam, Scrappy and Scooby are still out there trying to find the 13th Ghost, or they did and eventually just all settled down together and became a family.

[Wildcat]

Well I like what they came up with for the 13th ghost itself so it gives to closure to that at least.

Another thing I thought they could have done with the ending is after the guy is caught he opens the real chest to release the 12 ghosts again but the 13th, now reformed, has the power to put them back in and acts like a guardian spirit to it.

It would have made a cool scene to briefly see them again (in better animation) and add to the character.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Do people really hate Scrappy that much? I liked him as a kid but I understand getting rid of him. This was the perfect time to address it.

I never understood the hate for Scrappy. Maybe a lot of people hated his "puppy power" catchphrase which admittedly could get toned down a notch. I remember seeing a brief cameo of him somewhere where he was voiced by Tom Kenny who I think is a worthy successor to Don Messick. Maybe one day the hate will simmer down.

Scrappy was actually the most useful in the three late 80s movies; The Boo Brothers, Reluctant Werewolf, and the Ghoul School. In the Boo Brothers, he was the one that solved the clues and riddles that lead to the family jewels. And to occupy the escaped ape with something it would like. He pretty took Velma's place in that movie. Maybe he works better with just his uncle and Shaggy.

Something this show started is that Scooby's speech has improved where he no longer starts his words with 'r' which I still find weird.

[CyberCubed]

As a kid I loved the "Ghoul School" movie, I watched it over and over. The monsters were real and friendly in that movie, so that never got retconned in it did it? I also remember Scrappy being perfectly fine and enjoyable in that movie.

Scrappy's hatred has always made people dislike new added characters in shows, especially younger kid sidekick characters. It's why people call characters, "The Scrappy."

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Still it's such a shame. I think there's room for him to be useful in the newer incarnations.

Boo Brothers was always my favorite between the three but Ghoul School was also enjoyable though the kids saying "affirmative" did get annoying after a while. For the Reluctant Werewolf, I would always fix myself a huge snack in preparation of Shaggy's race and would treat it like an event.

[sdp]

Scrappy is hated because the kids who had grown up with the original run of the show and the various reruns in the 70s and 80 were no longer kids when Scrappy aired so it was cool to blame their change in likes/dislikes on Scrappy. Those boomers were the same ones who began using the internet and influenced all future generations that Scrappy was bad. If you take a look at it Scrappy was still featured in licensing stuff in the mid/late 90s. It wasn't until the movie Zombie Island where he didn't appear that he stopped appearing and would only appear as a joke after that.

Scrappy's only sin was saving Scooby from bad ratings, most of Scrappy's seasons are actually either good or decent, the only one that is awful is the solo season where it's only scrappy/scooby/shaggy in 7 minute episodes. But before Scrappy both new scooby doo movies and Scooby Doo show were pretty awful, especially the scooby show, but alas it's easier to blame scrappy.

I blame boomers on Scrappy still being stigmatized to this age because of all those old fans who never got "scrappy" influenced entire generations that Scrappy was bad on the internet. I love Scrappy, he can be a fun character.

13th ghost movie discussion

I agree with both sides. It was nice to have one of my favorite Scooby seasons finished, but it also sucked they did it by spitting on the original show and what happened to it. How is it possible that they homage so many episodes and yet thought that was a good ending? They could've had a fanservice movie, break the mold of how all the other movies are.

I don't consider the 13th Ghost movie a proper 'canonical' ending in the same way I don't count any of the DTV movies any longer. To me they're part of the multiverse. The original franchise/timeline ended on 13 Ghosts and to my mind Shaggy, Daph, Flam, Scrappy and Scooby are still out there trying to find the 13th Ghost, or they did and eventually just all settled down together and became a family.

There is no Scooby Multiverse, it's always been a single timeline and now it's clearer than ever, my post in 2011 in this thread is when people didn't believe it but they've basically canonized it with a bunch of horrible retcons to make it fit.

Though you're not wrong that the original franchise/timeline ended with the 13 ghosts of scooby doo. Up to that point the timeline was much simpler. A pup named Scooby Doo is just a prequel but people took it as a reboot. The Zombie Island movies aged the characters so it all fit perfectly (except the whole monsters for real for the first time) until "What's New Scooby Doo" which had the characters as teenagers again but they made references to stuff that happened in the movies they were adults, and ever since then they've been teenagers. It wasn't until Return to Zombie Island and 13th ghost that they finally retconned the movies were they were adults into "they were teenagers actually" which I admit is a sh-t retcon, but it's one way to explain it. All scooby shows always reference previous scooby shows, most specifically Where are you but it's always been there.

[ZariusTwo]

There is no Scooby Multiverse

There's a Scooby Doo comic, forget which issue, which makes the multiverse thing explicit