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Jester

08-23-2011, 08:27 PM

Site reasons or you're getting fitted for an orange jumpsuit.

EDIT: I guess I should state why I HATE it...
Being a Turtle endows the Turtles with special ninja powers? Why did they even train? If the powers are part of the turtle mutation, why bother? Ninja abilities are learned, not a superpower you lose when you turn from a Turtle to a human. Though I could see him being less durable, or more klutzy because he isn't used to moving in a human body.

CyberCubed

08-23-2011, 08:32 PM

I just find it funny his human shoes disappeared into his feet.

Jester

08-23-2011, 08:39 PM

At least the series was consistent. Napoleon's cloths came back to normal and ripped again in Napoleon Bonafrog: Colossus of the Swamps and then there's Carter....:D

Powder

08-23-2011, 08:57 PM

I personally like that episode, but it's not a favorite or anything.

ssjup81

08-23-2011, 10:15 PM

The main thing I did like about it, was how we learned something more about Mikey, and how "human" he really is in general and how, in a way, he probably yearns for a normal life. That's the only pro about the ep, imo.

The cons, mostly everything else. I do agree over how stupid it was that, apparently, becoming human means you can't use your martial arts. Last I looked, Splinter trained them in the art of ninjutsu and taught them techniques from the clan of his ancestor. Mutating into a human shouldn't have caused Mikey to lose his actual fighting skill...maybe some of his strength or stamina or agility (on a human level), sure, but not the actual skills that were taught to him. By this show's logic, Splinter shouldn't be able to do any fighting as Yoshi because he's been mutated as a rat for so doggone long. :tlol:

The beginning was just too foolish even by OT standards. Seriously! How could they not recognize Bebop in drag? :lol:

ToTheNines

08-23-2011, 11:10 PM

I literally can't watch it. It'd put me to sleep if I chugged a barrel of Monster/Rockstar/Red Bull/5-hour-energy.

Hilly

08-24-2011, 07:00 AM

ok first off. Michelangelo is my favorite character. next like you said it shows that he wishes to be a normal teenager and do the same things we do. But I do agree with you that his ninja and skateboarding skills should not of disappeared once he became human because he had years of training in both.

Coola Yagami

08-24-2011, 02:27 PM

Exactly... turning human shouldn't have resulted in Mike losing his ninja or skateboard abilities... Plus... out of all the possible appearance Mike could have taken up... how did the Turtles know what he'd look like? They ran right into a kid that looked just like human-Mike and were like 'look, it's Michealangelo as a human teenager'.

Jephael

08-24-2011, 09:40 PM

I have to admit the older I get the less I like this episode, however it did inspire me to create my Jephael character.

KROW

08-25-2011, 10:50 AM

Jester just hates it because Mikey looks like him when he becomes human, instead of it being Raph.

Jester

08-25-2011, 10:51 AM

Sure...that's it....He looks just like me...

KROW

08-25-2011, 11:03 AM

Well... he does.... I mean, put on a Hawaiian shirt and it's bingo.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/BJKROW/humanmikey.png

ABrown

08-25-2011, 11:22 AM

Now I've been listening how much you guys hate this episode. Would it be a crime to say I love it?

I guess my question to you would be: on what level do you love it? Do you love being nostalgic over the silly cheesiness of it? Or do you sit there and truly think that it's one of the greatest animated episodes ever created in television history?

Jester

08-25-2011, 12:03 PM

Well... he does.... I mean, put on a Hawaiian shirt and it's bingo.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/BJKROW/humanmikey.png

I'm a clean-shaven ginger?

Sword Slicin' Leo

08-25-2011, 12:32 PM

i would take any OT over any of the new 2003 and up material

Hilly

08-25-2011, 02:09 PM

I just like it as Michelangelo themed episode

KROW

08-25-2011, 02:26 PM

I'm a clean-shaven ginger?

Ginger? Hey, we both know that they only made his hair orange because his bandana was orange. Surfer dudes in general are blonde. And you are clean-shaven now, right? Come on, put on a floral print shirt and prove me wrong.

Fugitoid Jones

08-29-2011, 05:06 AM

Ginger? Hey, we both know that they only made his hair orange because his bandana was orange. Surfer dudes in general are blonde. And you are clean-shaven now, right? Come on, put on a floral print shirt and prove me wrong.

Don't listen to KROW, Jester! If you take a pic of yourself in the floral print shirt and post it to prove him wrong, next thing you know KROW will be like "OK, now get into your pajamas and prove me wrong" and it will continue until this gets wildly uncomfortable. ;)

I didn't hate this episode, but it definetly wasn't one of my favorites. I thought the whole losing his skills when he changed was pretty dumb, but I just chalked it up to another dumb moment in a series that had quite a few of them. Just harmless stupidity.

Powder

08-29-2011, 05:45 AM

I personally chalked it up to a new body. Imagine that, it'd definitely be at least a little awkward. When your weight suddenly changes drastically in how it is distributed (no shell) it's gotta be hard to find your center of gravity.

Jester

08-29-2011, 06:02 AM

MrPliggins

08-29-2011, 06:40 AM

Hilly

08-29-2011, 08:38 PM

Which reminds me, I love Bye Bye Fly too

ssjup81

08-30-2011, 07:42 PM

It seems to me like they wanted to do an episode where the Turtles turned human, so they devised a contrived plot device (Turtles are weak as humans) to explain why the Shredder would want to turn them into humans. Besides, wouldn't they be weaker if they were gerbils or something?I'm okay with their being weaker and all if turned into humans (normal human strength), but I'm not okay with the fact that, apparently, they can't use their fighting skills if they're human. Last I looked, they didn't have special magic powers that allowed them to fight. As Leonardo would say, they use their "ninja skill and cunning", which was learned. The whole ep was screwed up.

Hilly

10-26-2011, 04:26 PM

Unless Shredder specifically designed the anti-mutagen in the cookies so they wouldn't have their ninja skills as humans, otherwise we have poked a big hole in episode’s logic

gobo

10-26-2011, 04:33 PM

I dislike that ep for various reasons, but "hate" is a term I reserve for the most annoying of them, such as "INVASION OF THE TURTLE SNATCHERS".

pannoni1

10-26-2011, 05:39 PM

Also, why would Burne let April where a more punky outfit then we've ever seen just to cover some gang report when she can simply get information from the police? She's wearing a black outfit to try to fit into the gang, her hair is spiked up a bit, and what well-off person would do such a stupid thing, given that April is generally a tidy lady?

oldmanwinters

10-26-2011, 05:49 PM

I dislike that ep for various reasons, but "hate" is a term I reserve for the most annoying of them, such as "INVASION OF THE TURTLE SNATCHERS".

Really? I don't think it's the worst of the series. I thought it had its funny moments. What makes it public enemy #1 in your book, gobo?

what well-off person would do such a stupid thing, given that April is generally an tidy lady?

A generally tidy lady who runs around in the sewer system every day or so? :-P

Herald7

10-26-2011, 05:55 PM

I like the episode fine! The whole losing the powers bit is just one of those nitpicky things that's fun to laugh at (I have, lol), but isn't that big a deal. :lol:

gobo

10-26-2011, 09:43 PM

Really? I don't think it's the worst of the series. I thought it had its funny moments. What makes it public enemy #1 in your book, gobo?
It's not the worst. It's just one of the many that makes me wanna staple bagels to my face, then remove 'em with a pitchfork.
A generally tidy lady who runs around in the sewer system every day or so? :-P
:lol::lol::lol::tthumbsu:

lethrhd

11-03-2011, 01:04 PM

damn guys i like invason of the turtle snatchers, is that anohter hated tmnt ep?

gobo

11-03-2011, 01:46 PM

Well, I know I hate it. The extra cartoony designs look sloppy. The plot is of the dumbed-down variety. It defies logic that April would be celebrating her 1st reporterversary in Season 3. And, I absolutely despise when April saves the day by unplugging the threat. :roll:

lethrhd

11-03-2011, 09:21 PM

not a fan of the animation either but dons my favorite turtle.. so i may be biased

ssjup81

11-03-2011, 10:01 PM

damn guys i like invason of the turtle snatchers, is that anohter hated tmnt ep?I didn't mind that ep, nor did I mind seeing Donny with Mikey's nunchucks. :lol:

Edit: Wow, just notice where you were from! You're not that far from me. I live in Richmond.

Herald7

11-03-2011, 10:30 PM

Well, I know I hate it. The extra cartoony designs look sloppy. The plot is of the dumbed-down variety.

I liked some of the story, like the alien's names referencing The Day the Earth Stood Still. And a Donatello episode is always welcome.

It defies logic that April would be celebrating her 1st reporterversary in Season 3.

I don't watch the show because it's logical, hehe.

And, I absolutely despise when April saves the day by unplugging the threat. :roll:

::shrugs:: I thought it was funny. Not hilarious, but cute. Lol

lethrhd

11-03-2011, 10:56 PM

It defies logic that April would be celebrating her 1st reporterversary in Season 3

i never got the impression the seasons progressed in real time, so that never bothered me. The turtles will always be 15-16 and homer simpson will always be in his mid thirties.

CyberCubed

11-03-2011, 11:03 PM

i never got the impression the seasons progressed in real time, so that never bothered me. The turtles will always be 15-16 and homer simpson will always be in his mid thirties.

Homer is 38. A better analogy would be that Bart will always be 10 and in the 4th grade. :)

Herald7

11-03-2011, 11:28 PM

Either way, The Simpsons analogy is exactly right. A lot of shows just don't happen in real time.

ToTheNines

11-03-2011, 11:42 PM

Peanuts time is the common term.

I like to believe the show progresses though, but it's no where near being in line with real time.

lethrhd

11-03-2011, 11:53 PM

well time definitly "progresses" that can be inferred just by tracking the technodrome- earths core, dimension x, north pole etc.

Jester

11-03-2011, 11:55 PM

Either way, The Simpsons analogy is exactly right. A lot of shows just don't happen in real time.
Which is why the "M*A*S*H lasted longer than the war" always kinda rang false. Sure it ran for 9 years and the war only 3, but if you take that and spread it out, it's not longer at all. 251 45 minute episodes are not equal to 3 years...in fact it's an episode for every 4 days of the war.

ToTheNines

11-04-2011, 12:17 AM

well time definitly "progresses" that can be inferred just by tracking the technodrome- earths core, dimension x, north pole etc.

I was thinking of something a little more in depth: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=34178&highlight=winter

gobo

11-04-2011, 12:46 AM

Peanuts time is the common term.
Everyone knows Peanuts stole that idea from The Simpsons. :roll: DANG YOU, JESSICA & ASHLEY! :x *shakes fist*

FredWolfLeonardo

08-20-2016, 02:46 AM

I never understood why so many people her seem to not like this episode, I friggin love it.

I found it nice to see B&Rs old gang again since they were last seen in season 1, and the episode in general was a lot of fun to me.

Wesley

08-20-2016, 10:08 AM

Okay ep. I don't know why so many people hate this episode. In my opinion, it's better than other season 3 eps such as Case of the Hot Kimono. I didn't care much for the human cookies plot (it didn't make much sense to me), but I liked the B plot with Rocksteady and Bebop's old gang. It was good to see them again for the first time since season 1. They could've been used more. I think they only appear one more time in the ep Once Upon a Time Machine.

Also, I liked that April had a more active role and was protrayed as a strong woman in this episode. I loved it when she sent Rocksteady flying near the end.

MsMarvelDuckie

08-20-2016, 01:07 PM

Everyone always carps on Mikey losing his "Turtle powers" and/or ninja skills, but it's clear he didn't lose his KNOWLEDGE, just his mutant abilities (strength, durability, tucking his head into his shell, etc.). He even tries to throw Rocksteady toward the end and ends up dangling off his arm. I always saw it as having a hard time getting used to a new body- he even has difficulty skateboarding, though to be fair, the kid pushed him into the bowl before he was ready so he was off-balance to begin with! He almost got the hang of it, but then bailed and landed in the tree. Chalk it up to not being used to the physical changes, like some said.

This actually happens to be one of my favorite episodes, because we see a lot of character development not only for Mikey but the other turtles too. And April as well. We see more about Rocksteady and Bebop's gang and their history, which was also cool. If one overlooks the ridiculous scene at the beginning with those two in "disguise", it is a pretty good episode that shows the advantages the turtles have over normal humans, as well as their desire to fit in. April is shown to be smart, tough, and independent. Aside from the odd choice of having Shredder have them dress up (He SHOULD have just had them start attacking people or robbing a bakery and then pretended to be a grateful shop owner to give them the cookies in disguise himself.) the majority of the episode wasn't nearly as bad as most seem to make it out to be. The shoes and clothes disappearing is a minor quibble, more a problem with the animation than any issue with the plot.

oldmanwinters

08-20-2016, 06:23 PM

This episode... haha! :trolleye:

DarkFell

08-20-2016, 07:27 PM

As silly as this episode was, it did show us a glimpse of one of the Turtle brothers that simply wanted to be something else other than another outcast that has to hide from humanity.

So, he eats a cookie and eventually finds out that being human isn't quite as bodacious as he thought it would be. Lesson learned.

As for Donatello telling the others that Mikey was to die from the anti-mutagen effects from ingesting that cookie (by being a walking time-bomb), yeah - that was a bit over the top.

Jephael

08-20-2016, 09:37 PM

My only grievance with this episode was how Mikey's clothes somehow mutated along with him, especially near the end when the shirt and shorts vanished completely as he changed back into a turtle. It's like the animators were too lazy to simply have him wearing the same getup in both forms.

Coola Yagami

08-23-2016, 10:06 PM

Also didn't like that despite being a friggin mutant rhino and warthog, bebop and rocksteady were still pretty much scared shitless of their old gang. Both times they appeared, it was clear they were afraid of pissing them off, even though bebop and rocksteady should have been able to take down everyone.

Also, even as a kid it kinda bothered me that they were NOT the old gang Bebop and Rocksteady hung out with in the first season. It woulda been cool to see those other thugs come back.

MsMarvelDuckie

08-23-2016, 10:16 PM

Actually, it was the old gang with a few new members. I watched both episodes back-to-back a few months back for some story research, and three of them are the same members from the pilot. Lugnut (the bald guy), the tall skinny guy, and the punk chick with the long hair- of the three, only one had a name or lines in GAH. It is also possible the other members from the pilot were simply elsewhere- locked up perhaps?

Garfield

08-23-2016, 10:45 PM

I love "The Gang is all here" yeah it was goofy and stupid, but I don't really care.

cammy85

08-24-2016, 11:36 AM

The Saturday morning seasons ruined me especially since this aired in syndication during the fourth and fifth seasons. in short, I liked that the gang were the villains for most of the episode other than the first act and the end. But the discrepancies weren't so good.

The discrepancies about the anti-mutagen were annoying but I guess the properties change just as much as regular mutagen. The Turtles shouldn't have to lose their ninja strength when human and if Michaelangelo were weak he shouldn't have been able to climb the rope either. That is annoying but at least the episode is good otherwise.

pferreira

09-01-2016, 10:35 AM

I love "The Gang is all here" yeah it was goofy and stupid, but I don't really care.It's a good episode, not sure where the complaints of "exact opposite of what Turtles is supposed to be about blah blah blah" and "Laird and Eastman would never do that".

cough https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGACrpNOjtk cough :D

Lisardo

09-02-2016, 03:44 PM

As silly as the whole Mikey-turning-human-equates-to-him-somehow-loosing-his-fighting-skills idea is, what I did like was the theme of how he, and April, are only human, but still have strength within them. Cheesy still, but a good moral for kids I suppose. Also the animation sucked in that ep...they looked too chubby.