The sexual orientation of the TMNT

[Coprophagous Beauty]

I wonder to whom feel the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles sexually attracted? Would they prefer turtles (Red-eared Sliders) because originally they were turtles, too? Or are they so humanized that they prefer humans? They grown up in a civilized environment surrounded by humans that reminds me of sheepdogs who are born in a sheep barn. These dogs think they are sheeps and also fall in love with sheeps *aww cute!*.

BUT the turtles know that they are no humans!

When you leave aside Venus de Milo and Ninjara and imagine there would be only one beautiful mutated Turtle-girl. What do you think which couple is most likely?

For me Leonardo was always like an ascetic monk. He follows the way of Bushido, he is a true warrior and the leader - he has no interest in a physical relationship.... (a real fighting-nerd (I mean that as a compliment ;))

Michelangelo's more like Don Juan. He might have a short relationship with her ​​but nothing serious. Mike is the only one I could imagine to be gay.

Donatello is probably shy and reserved in such matters. But in a relationship he would be certainly very loving and loyal. Maybe he is like the classical loser - it's a long hard way but at the end he get the girl.

Raphael is a very difficult character. He needs a girl with a very strong character. Her physical appearance doesn't matter. All that matters for him is true love. He is the only one I could imagine a relationship between turtle and human.

But what do you think about a relationship between a turtle and a human - is this zoophilia?

Now I've written a lot - so what do YOU think about all that?


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[LeoNerdo]

Now I've written a lot - so what do YOU think about all that?


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Thank you for all your answers and sorry for my bad english (when it's bad ;))!

Wat.... I try to not think about this. Ever.

[Powder]

tlac;dr

(Too long and creepy; didn't read)

[Andrew NDB]

These dogs think they are sheeps and also fall in love with sheeps *aww cute!*.

I don't think sheepdogs understand the concept of love or the falling in of it.

Michelangelo's more like Don Juan. He might have a short relationship with her ​​but nothing serious. Mike is the only one I could imagine to be gay.

That's pretty weird. In the source material Mike is the only Turtle to have had two long-term girlfriends and even became a father.

Raffael is a very difficult character. He needs a girl with a very strong character. Her physical appearance doesn't matter. All that matters for him is true love.

I can think of quite a few things that matter to Raphael more than "true love." In fact, I can't think of a single time I've ever seen Raphael pining over anyone in the source material or otherwise. Any idea of him doing so would just be a fanfiction.

He is the only one I could imagine a relationship between turtle and human.

But what do you think about a relationship between a turtle and a human - is this zoophilia?

Yeah.

Now I've written a lot - so what do YOU think about all that?

I think that while they may have experienced in one way or another enough pop culture to kind of see human ladies and go in some kind of casual way, "Oh, she's hot!" I see nothing in the source material (albeit, Leonardo in the future) to conclude they're attracted to or would pursue any human females.

[Coprophagous Beauty]

In the source material Mike is the only Turtle to have had two long-term girlfriends and even became a father.

I didn't know that - where can I read it?

And yes you are right the text about Raphael sounds very superficially. But I mean he has the potential for the most interesting love story (ok maybe I'm not impartial)

Source material = the comics.
Already clear that's why I wrote "read".
Perhaps a bit more precise - which comic issue?

[Powder]

I didn't know that - where can I read it?


Source material = the comics.

[Bauer536]

This is how I see it.

Leo is the guy who gets girls that turn out to cheat on him, betray him, or killed by the enemy. Forget Karai. She may be one of those, or all. Hopefully, I believe he'll find someone. Imagine, just after rescuing a beautiful brunette, they fall in love and get married. Too bad they can't have sex. Even though he's not human, I bet he doesn't believe in sex before marriage. He's patient to wait for his future wife.

Don is the guy that gets girls, but has a problem communicating to them. Girls may give up on him, making boys trying to hit on him. That would be a nightmare for him. Then eventually he'll meet this new female employee. After a year of rubbing heads, they'll fall in love and then get married. Again, I don't think he'd support sex before marriage.

Mikey is a ladies man, however, constantly finds new girls to date. Who knows when he'll find the right person, but he may be just riding solo on this one. Maybe a cute blonde chick would work, one that's into comedy and pop culture (even ninjas). He may wish for sex, but he knows he can't do it, nor does he want to try it at all.

Raph may find a girl from another planet. Yes, maybe an alien. I won't say he'll move up with her in space, but that they'll marry and still live in good old NYC. Who knows? I could see Raph wanting to have sex, but he'll realize he won't be able to. If he could, he wouldn't wait 'til marriage, he'd probably do it before the wedding.

[Andrew NDB]

This is how I see it.

Leo is the guy who gets girls that turn out to cheat on him, betray him, or killed by the enemy. Forget Karai.

What on earth are you talking about?

She may be one of those, or all. Hopefully, I believe he'll find someone. Imagine, just after rescuing a beautiful brunette, they fall in love and get married. Too bad they can't have sex. Even though he's not human, I bet he doesn't believe in sex before marriage. He's patient to wait for his future wife.

Sadly Leonardo falling in love with a human (albeit, a mutant human -- Radical) IS supported by the source material.

Though I tend to believe Leonardo was tappin' dat ass, marriage or no marriage.

Don is the guy that gets girls

No he's not.

but has a problem communicating to them. Girls may give up on him, making boys trying to hit on him. That would be a nightmare for him. Then eventually he'll meet this new female employee. After a year of rubbing heads, they'll fall in love and then get married. Again, I don't think he'd support sex before marriage.

...

Mikey is a ladies man, however, constantly finds new girls to date. Who knows when he'll find the right person, but he may be just riding solo on this one. Maybe a cute blonde chick would work, one that's into comedy and pop culture (even ninjas). He may wish for sex, but he knows he can't do it

What do you mean? He's had sex before -- he's had children in the source material... we can readily quantify this, folks, it's not up for debate.

Raph may find a girl from another planet. Yes, maybe an alien. I won't say he'll move up with her in space, but that they'll marry and still live in good old NYC. Who knows? I could see Raph wanting to have sex, but he'll realize he won't be able to. If he could, he wouldn't wait 'til marriage, he'd probably do it before the wedding.

I don't think any of the Turtles would be overly concerned with human institutions like marriage. They aren't part of mankind.

[Xav]

How did Mike have children? Was there a female turtle in the mirage comics?

[Andrew NDB]

How did Mike have children?

He had sex. With a female member of kind of a splinter race of the Triceratons.

Was there a female turtle in the mirage comics?

No.

[Toby Barrett]

The floozy was obviously already knocked up before she met Mikey. =p

[Andrew NDB]

The floozy was obviously already knocked up before she met Mikey. =p

It's possible, though unfortunately we may never know. In-story, however, we're presented with a timeline of events:

Regenta and Michelangelo fall in love => They have sex => She gives birth to a bunch of eggs => She tells him he's the dad.

Was she lying? Maybe, but the way the story is left there's nothing to conclude that she was.

[Logan]

Besides the Leo/Radical romance, there is constant reference to Pimiko being a "ninja babe". Most people don't use the word "babe" unless they're expressing some attraction to said person. I seem to remember one of the turtles thinking that April was hot, too. Can't recollect what issue or turtle, though.

Mikey was involved with two aliens, one in the Image series and then another in Vol. 4.

[Toby Barrett]

It's possible, though unfortunately we may never know. In-story, however, we're presented with a timeline of events:

Regenta and Michelangelo fall in love => They have sex => She gives birth to a bunch of eggs => She tells him he's the dad.

Was she lying? Maybe, but the way the story is left there's nothing to conclude that she was.

I dunno. Laying eggs after only one night seems a bit too contrived to me.

[Jester]

I agree, I think she was setting Mikey up.

As for the whole issue...I agree with Peter (who isn't very thrilled with the Leo/Radical issue of Tales.) that the Turtles really don't need sexual relationships...

[Andrew NDB]

I dunno. Laying eggs after only one night seems a bit too contrived to me.

A good, long passage of time was implied within there.

In any case, the point is: "Has Mikey ever had sex?" Yes, yes he has. If he had not, why would he be the least bit worried about whether or not he was the father?

[BentonGrey]

Wow........yeah, that's just too weird. I'm with Jester, and via him Peter. That doesn't really need to be explored.

[PAAATE]

Saw the thread title, and had to read this. Just wanted all of you to know that this made my utterly boring night a little better :P

[Weapons@theready]

Isn't there a "comic" the explores this more in depth:lol:

[Bauer536]

Okay. I don't think this my thread. Sorry. This is just becoming a tad bit disgusting.:toops:

[Jester]

Isn't there a "comic" the explores this more in depth:lol:
You might ask Stephan about that...;)

[gobo]

The sexual orientation of the TMNT

>_< :roll:

[Jester]

I wonder if any of them eat poop?

[Katie]

I think the only people who wonder if the turtles have sex are people who secretly wish to have sex with them....or maybe not so secretly.


Gross.


Who needs a not so real turtle when you have a real guy?

Oh wait....

[Cryomancer]

I wonder if any of them eat poop?

Probably indirectly, they do tend to live in sewers and all.

[Luzmagica]

I think the only people who wonder if the turtles have sex are people who secretly wish to have sex with them....or maybe not so secretly.

............


I use to be agree with you most times...but not in this case...
In my opinion ...I think the eagerness to match the turtles is an attempt to preserve them in the future ... after all 4 males alone are destined to disappear (battle, suicide, illness, accident or old age), I think it's also an attempt to give them "normal" happiness in their lives .... Within the basic framework of: birth, grow, procreate and die ....
I think it's more common in this case ... :)

[Xav]

Isn't there a "comic" the explores this more in depth:lol: Ah you mean this?
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=29174

[Coola Yagami]

I believe the Turtles have their desires, and as Leo prooved, in a world where humans are the majority, sooner or later they'd get with one, if they were to get with someone at all. IMO they just don't focus so much on romance/sex because their lives and focus is on that. Splinter raised them to be ninjas and assassins towards Saki and the Foot... not playas. Leo became bushido-obsessed, Don is all about science and Raph is a berserker. Of the 4, Mikey was the one with the more-human desires and the need to fit into society, hence his stint as a writer and wanting his stuff published, and basically wanting to fit in with humans more than the other 3. It was more natural that he got some action by Vol. 4.

I can almost imagine the turtles reunited after the vol. 4 mess ended and one of em asking Mike. "so..... the dino-chick..... how was it?"

[Candy Kappa]

I'm sure had it not been for the whole Children's show thingie, Fred Wolf Donny would probably have replicated the mutagen and bought a bunch of female res and...

... cruising down creepy street, always.

[Spitfire]

Why is it this has to come up every few months? The turtles aren't gay and they're never going to bone humans outside of horridly written fan fiction. You're into that there's tons of unlicensed TMNT Yaoi all over Ebay you can read in private. There's even Fast Forward Yaoi...WTF!?!?!

[Candy Kappa]

There's even Fast Forward Yaoi...WTF!?!?!

is there less quality in the Fast Forward Yaoi then the regular?


wonder if these thread would pop up if this was a Transformers Forum? :P

[Spitfire]

It looks like they turn into generic anime humans some how and we can only guess what that leads to.

[gobo]

What's yaoi?

[Candy Kappa]

What's yaoi?

The evil monsters under ya bed, imported from Japan

It looks like they turn into generic anime humans some how and we can only guess what that leads to.

That just seems like cheating

[Spitfire]

What's yaoi?

It basically means "boy love". In this case it's all the turtles getting it on with each other...the question of why it was made is only out weighed by the question of how it got published. There's a bunch of it on Ebay which has been up for awhile. The prices keep going up on it too, must be running low on copies! Better get them now before they sell out.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-YAOI-Doujinshi-SOUSHISOUAI-/360324168013?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e4fe794d

Apparently they use words like "Soft" and "Hard" to describe the Yaoi. This book is "Not Soft", in all caps mind. I guess that translates to hardcore. Ew.

[gobo]

Oh... Turtlecest... Do not want.

[LotusBlossom]

Mike is the only one I could imagine to be gay.


That is so bizarre! Because to me, he seems to be easily the LEAST likely one to be "that way". (With Leo probably the most likely.)

At any rate ... you know who is DEFINITELY gay?

Vernon Fenwick.

Oh, and obviously that Truman Capote-type guy from the Flower Society, also (in "Raphael versus the Volcano"). Plus (probably) Baxter Stockman. And maybe even Don Turtelli as well.

Man, now that I think about it, the OT was, like, practically dripping in homo-eroticism!

[Bauer536]

I said I wasn't coming back to this discussion, but I just have to say this:

Leonardo may be a ninja, a leader, and a goody-two shoes, but he is NOT gay!:tmad: It upsets me when someone calls any of the turtles homosexual because there is no clear evidence saying that the turtles are gay. I'm sorry. Also, this should be a thread about them getting girls, not about doing girls. This disgusts me. I don't care if sex sells. This thread should be locked.:tmad:

[jaymq]

"ewewew"... wow, sometimes I wonder how some people survive preschool cooties.

[Andrew NDB]

It upsets me when someone calls any of the turtles homosexual because there is no clear evidence saying that the turtles are gay.

There's not even circumstancial evidence.

[Sage Ninja]

That is so bizarre! Because to me, he seems to be easily the LEAST likely one to be "that way". (With Leo probably the most likely.)

At any rate ... you know who is DEFINITELY gay?

Vernon Fenwick.

Oh, and obviously that Truman Capote-type guy from the Flower Society, also (in "Raphael versus the Volcano"). Plus (probably) Baxter Stockman. And maybe even Don Turtelli as well.

Man, now that I think about it, the OT was, like, practically dripping in homo-eroticism!

in the cases of Vernon Fenwick and Don Turttelli I think you are confusing "metrosexual" with gay. Bexter is clearly just a nerd who never got past the first stage of human interaction most likely due to his intelligence.

And I can't remember who the flower society guy is so yuor guess is as good as mine.

[Jester]

And I can't remember who the flower society guy is so your guess is as good as mine.
He is talking about the Rob Paulsen voiced character Wilhelm "Willie" Vanilli. Not sure what to think...

I know...of course I'd know...:P

[Jo Dawn]

I really don't have anything to add to this thread, except this:



it's a long hard way but at the end he get the girl.



That's what she said.

*bows*

[Jester]

I really don't have anything to add to this thread, except this:



That's what she said.

*bows*
*slow clap*

[ssjup81]

I still don't get why people say Vernon's character was gay. To me there's a difference between being a scaredy cat and being gay. Besides, there is that episode where Vernon was trying to get a kiss out of April...and in that awful ep with that giant monkey, not sure if it was just a major animation error, but Vernon's attention was on April's bust for the entire scene.

[Leonardo87]

It will be best if I stay out of this thread...

[jaymq]

It will be best if I stay out of this thread...

Why post at all then? Genuine question, I never understood the concept of posting to tell people they can't, shouldn't or won't post....

If you have something to say and aren't breaking any rules, go ahead... otherwise....... why bother?

[Jester]

Why post at all then? Genuine question, I never understood the concept of posting to tell people they can't, shouldn't or won't post....

If you have something to say and aren't breaking any rules, go ahead... otherwise....... why bother?

I think Leo is speaking to the ridiculousness of the thread.

[jaymq]

I think Leo is speaking to the ridiculousness of the thread.

Well, I agree that it's ridiculous, someone mentioned that this type of thread gets started every couple months or so... and I've noticed it's always the same remarks, "eww turtle sex. .. ew.. bad fan fiction... ew fangirls.." you get the idea. It's like preschool all over again. And I'll mention this everytime I see this types of comments because of how riduculous it is.

Quite honestly, the turtles have had love interests or girlfriends in all the incarnations and you can't genuinely expect a bunch of teenage (or older) males to be completely utterly celibate. One may do or consider it since in this day and age, people got the freedom to do as they wish with their love lives. But I can not genuinely believe all four would want to be celibate.

There are no quotes on them being straight either even if all of them have only dated females in canon. PL can emo about Don not being gay in OT all he wants, it was never written in as canon they're straight. I could care less if turtle pr0nz squicks people, if it's not your thing, fine, cool. But acting like "turtles don't have sex because I think it's gross" is just absurd.

But I still stand by my remark, why post at all if you aren't going to contribute? It's a forum, the whole point of a forum is to discuss. So, by all means, Leo87. Speak your mind. :P

[Jester]

Are you seriously defending Turtle Porn? Heck, any anthropomorphic animal porn is just icky.

[jaymq]

Are you seriously defending Turtle Porn? Heck, any anthropomorphic animal porn is just icky.

For a moment, I thought I might have gotten a mature response-- alas. But no, it was the concept of sexual orientation and the repeated celibate comments that kept getting spouted that I was retorting.

And don't get me wrong, I like my turtle porn fan works, I even write my own, but that doesn't mean I feel it should be canon or be presented in canon fashion. I'm simply defending the concept and arguing the general consensus of "TMNT should be celibate cause I find turtle pr0nz gross."

I wonder to whom feel the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles sexually attracted?
Oh and to answer the original poster's question: I feel any of them could be gay, bi, straight, asexual... I could really see it anyway for any of them, but I'll leave my in-depth thoughts on this elsewhere perhaps since the maturity level of the idea of 'turtle sex' or 'turtles not being celibate' seems to squick more people than not here. :roll:

[Jester]

Yeah. I'm sorry we're not as enlightened as you about the subject of fictional, mutant animals having "teh sex". I didn't realize that it made a fan more mature because he or she wonders about the bedroom habits of his childhood's passions.

[jaymq]

Yeah. I'm sorry we're not as enlightened as you about the subject of fictional, mutant animals having "teh sex". I didn't realize that it made a fan more mature because he or she wonders about the bedroom habits of his childhood's passions.

Now you're just being insulting :)

[BubblyShell22]

Here's my take on this: I feel that the Turtles probably do imagine being with a human woman and wanting a life where they could have a family. But the reality is, it isn't possible not only because they're mutants but because of their lifestyle. Could you imagine any of the Turtles wanting to risk someone else's life all for the sake of love? What if that human was killed by their enemies? And they'd also be denying the human woman the freedom to live outside of the sewers if the Turtles aren't allowed topiside. Said human woman would have to live underground with them, and while she may be able to have a job and do said job, it would still suck not to be able to really live outside of the sewers.

I know that many of us want the Turtles to have that ideal relationship we all want ourselves, but realistically, it just can't happen.

Heck, I'm even writing a fan fic exploring the very nature of this topic concerning human relationships.

[Bauer536]

Here's my take on this: I feel that the Turtles probably do imagine being with a human woman and wanting a life where they could have a family. But the reality is, it isn't possible not only because they're mutants but because of their lifestyle. Could you imagine any of the Turtles wanting to risk someone else's life all for the sake of love? What if that human was killed by their enemies? And they'd also be denying the human woman the freedom to live outside of the sewers if the Turtles aren't allowed topiside. Said human woman would have to live underground with them, and while she may be able to have a job and do said job, it would still suck not to be able to really live outside of the sewers.

I know that many of us want the Turtles to have that ideal relationship we all want ourselves, but realistically, it just can't happen.

Heck, I'm even writing a fan fic exploring the very nature of this topic concerning human relationships.

Actually, I believe they'll have a chance in life. Once the humans accept them walking on the Earth, maybe they'll find someone to love. The only setback is, they're turtles. It's impossible (and I don't care if it worked for Mike in one issue) for turtles to procreate with humans. That's what I believe.

[Jester]

See that's just it. There's a difference between having these feelings and acting on them. I'm sure they can have feelings for someone, it would be the act of carrying it out that's the problem. There are, as Bubbly pointed out, to many downsides.

[Stingray69]

Here's my take on this: I feel that the Turtles probably do imagine being with a human woman and wanting a life where they could have a family. But the reality is, it isn't possible not only because they're mutants but because of their lifestyle. Could you imagine any of the Turtles wanting to risk someone else's life all for the sake of love? What if that human was killed by their enemies? And they'd also be denying the human woman the freedom to live outside of the sewers if the Turtles aren't allowed topiside. Said human woman would have to live underground with them, and while she may be able to have a job and do said job, it would still suck not to be able to really live outside of the sewers.

I know that many of us want the Turtles to have that ideal relationship we all want ourselves, but realistically, it just can't happen.

Heck, I'm even writing a fan fic exploring the very nature of this topic concerning human relationships.

Dude ain't that what there doing with April and any other humans they befriend? Fact is any human that associates with them in a positive fashion is bieng put at risk.









There mutated turtles with human DNA. Who's to say they can't sucefully reproduce with a human female? Other species can cross breed in real life why not the turtles?

[The Stryker]

There mutated turtles with human DNA. Who's to say they can't sucefully reproduce with a human female? Other species can cross breed in real life why not the turtles?

http://i56.tinypic.com/10oic2d.gif

That goes for the whole thread. Some people just need to admit that they want to jump Raphael's bones already and that they're weird.

[Samhain]

Im gone for 2 weeks and this is the first thread I saw when I logged on...

SMH...

[BubblyShell22]

Stryker, that Rock expression made me crack up.

And, Stingray, that's my point. However, they aren't in a romantic relationship with April anyway, and she's willing to stick with them. But would other human women put up with that when they can have a relationship with a regular human man? No, I don't think so. I think there would be too many factors that would make it impossible for them to do so.

[Stingray69]

Stryker, that Rock expression made me crack up.

And, Stingray, that's my point. However, they aren't in a romantic relationship with April anyway, and she's willing to stick with them. But would other human women put up with that when they can have a relationship with a regular human man? No, I don't think so. I think there would be too many factors that would make it impossible for them to do so.

Woman stay with gang member, drug dealers and killers where there in constant danger. They also stay in relationships with abusive partners. I think they could find a woman to stay with them. Yea it would be hard and a strain on the relationship but I feel there's women out there that would take the risk. What woman wouldn't want to be with a hero, and for that matter look at any hero who has a family or a girlfriend/boyfriend there in constant danger.

[BubblyShell22]

Heroes, yes, but the Turtles are NINJAS. They weren't originally trained to be heroes. They were trained to take down Shredder on Splinter's orders to avenge Yoshi's death. Plus, they're mutants for Pete's sake. Can you think of any woman who'd want to date a mutant who has so many enemies that could take her out and kill her? I don't think so. Look, I know you have a delusion in your mind that the Turtles could find someone, and that's fine if you want to have that. But I'm of the opinion that such relationships aren't possible.

[Stingray69]

Heroes, yes, but the Turtles are NINJAS. They weren't originally trained to be heroes. They were trained to take down Shredder on Splinter's orders to avenge Yoshi's death. Plus, they're mutants for Pete's sake. Can you think of any woman who'd want to date a mutant who has so many enemies that could take her out and kill her? I don't think so. Look, I know you have a delusion in your mind that the Turtles could find someone, and that's fine if you want to have that. But I'm of the opinion that such relationships aren't possible.

Hahaha O man ok lets just say where both delusional then and to each his own.

[Katie]

Plus, they're mutants for Pete's sake. Can you think of any woman who'd want to date a mutant who has so many enemies that could take her out and kill her? I don't think so. Look, I know you have a delusion in your mind that the Turtles could find someone, and that's fine if you want to have that. But I'm of the opinion that such relationships aren't possible.

I agree with you however...

Half the fangirls on this messageboard would be thrilled if a real live ninja turtle came and started that special relationship with them. The rest of us have real life relationships and don't need to fantasize about fictional characters.

Just look at the OP's comments. She basically states that Raphael is the kind of guy in her mind who doesn't care about looks. You could substitute Raphael with any other name. Internet fangirl dream. The turtles are particularly attractive for this because they're misunderstood....ugly....have to hide...isolated. THEY UNDERSTAND ME!!! They won't judge me the way awful real life guys do.

Whenever I see the Marysue turtle love commments I can guarantee the commenting person has had trouble in real life with guys....or has never had a relationship...and feels like these fictional characters would somehow provide a different outcome.

It is sad as hell.

[shuriken]

^^Tis a sad thing indeed
Honestly never thought about this much. I figured that they all at one point have had some sort of romantic relationship or at the very least romantic feelings with someone. We know Mikey and Leo have gotten laid at some point albeit Leo being the future.
Donnie seems like he would be the most likely to be celibate. This dude has mad scientists in a cellar and then kills them for being unredeemably evil. I don't know anyone who would want a relationship with that involved.
But if there was a Turtle that was gay it'd probably be Raph. He likes working out obsessively and at one point probabaly had a man cush on Casey. But he did have a long term relationship with Ninjara in the Archie books so whatever.
At the end of the day it all comes down to pure speculation and me not really caring so yeah.

[turtles_kolektor]

OH MY DEAR F****** GOD.
Dudes are You serious?
This thread is really about turtles having sex with humans etc?:lol::teek:
World is falling apart....:P

If the turtles could have sex with humans then what about let's say Usagi or Bebop? Bebop could be a gay-friend to Vernon and Usagi should be a partner of Irma, he could train here to become a Lady-Ninja...lol

Strange thread...

http://ckrickett.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/tmntohohoh.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-yBu2yhXypOk/TmebOZROGLI/AAAAAAAADWI/nWGl8SQ_rr4/s400/TMNT+eat+out.jpg

[BubblyShell22]

Yes, I agree, Katie. I totally agree. It's just so funny how these people speculate what the Turtles are sexuality wise without realizing that they're freakin' fictional characters. Oy vey.

[Luzmagica]

Yes, I agree, Katie. I totally agree. It's just so funny how these people speculate what the Turtles are sexuality wise without realizing that they're freakin' fictional characters. Oy vey.

I agree too..., not just fictional characters, they are also well-defined personality archetypes which of course may be attractive to anyone ... :tsmile:

...."-To deny our impulses is to deny just what makes us human"...Matrix dixit. :lol:


......maybe turtles can deny all their instincts .... who knows...! :tsmile:

[LotusBlossom]

in the cases of Vernon Fenwick and Don Turttelli I think you are confusing "metrosexual" with gay. Bexter is clearly just a nerd who never got past the first stage of human interaction most likely due to his intelligence.

Trust me that no one who goes to my school could possibly confuse one for the other. There are simply far too many examples of each ... and the distinctions are readily apparent and abundantly clear.

It's just so funny how these people speculate what the Turtles are sexuality wise without realizing that they're freakin' fictional characters.

That's the difference between a reader and a writer (well, one of them, anyway). A writer would never, ever think that way. A writer sees her/his creations as fully functional (albeit "fictional") beings, despite naturally knowing that many/most of those traits will never be acknowledged onscreen. And this is true even if, admittedly, no one would ever confuse some "hired hack" (no offense to the OT scribes) with, say, Joyce Carol Oates.

Oh, and also, not a huge deal but .... to whoever it was who referred to me as "he": wouldn't it be rather odd for a guy to choose the username "LotusBlossom"?

Hey! Wait! ... Just exactly what kind of forum is this?!

[Katie]

That's bullsh*t. Reader or writer most people understand fiction (not full functional reality) vs. Fully functioning reality. I used to write a lot. I even have a few fanfictions here if you feel froggy enough to go search the archives. (They aren't that good so.....warning). None of them involve sex or turtles falling in love with girls.

I never thought the characters were real...fully functional. I never fantasized about what they would do. And I certianly never wondered about their sexuality. To me that is seriously creepy. Like standing in a mall wondering about the sex habits of the people that pass by....or wondering about the sex habits of co-workers. Or wondering about the sex habits of people who post here. Or hell, even wondering about your friends' sex lives. It's disturbing. If you are that curious or hung up about sex....you need to find someone to help you with that.

I assure you it won't be a fictional character. And I'll bet a hundy that once you do have a relationship with a real person.....turtle fantasy boyfriends will go away.

[LotusBlossom]

Wow ... some people are so defensive...

1) Simply spewing out a few "fan fictions" hardly qualifies someone as a "writer". I was referring to serious, legitimate people (professionals, students, etc).

2) Being quasi-curious about all aspects of fictional figures' "lives" is not nearly the same as fantasizing about those characters having sex. I mean, after all, that's what "fan fictions" are for.

[BubblyShell22]

Uh, I have to take offense at your first comment, LB. I have written many fan fictions myself, and while I may not be a professional writer, I am still a writer. It doesn't matter if you write fan fic, poetry, or orginal works. A writer is a writer no matter what.

I agree that being curious can help people understand things better, but when it comes to the Turtles' sexual orientation, that's a whole other ball game. It's just something that's very creepy.

Yes, I'm exploring the idea of a romance with one of the Turtles myself, but I'm putting in the complexity of how such a romance could work. I'm not going to make my OC fall in love with Leo right away, and I'm definitely not going to have them sleep with each other right away either. I'm portraying it in as realistic a fashion as I feel that such a romance could be. I want to be different from so many fan fic writers who have their own idea of the Turtles and their love lives. Hopefully, I can achieve that and let people see that it can be complicated for them to have a romantic life.

[LotusBlossom]

That's cool, BubblyShell22.

I presume all fan fictions are not created equal (and range wildly in content/quality).

However ... "Katie" basically stated that anyone who even dared give the slightest thought (at all) to the Turtles' romantic proclivities is automatically a "furry" (or in this case a "scaly"). Which is an egregious insult not only to other forum members, but also to simple common sense.

Besides, personally speaking, I only really referenced HUMAN characters. One of whom is a blatant gay stereotype (Vernon), and another of whom is essentially Waylon J. Smithers.

Oh, well! On the plus side, at least I got to use words like "proclivities" and "egregious" on a Ninja Turtles forum!

[Jester]

Ok...someone has too...
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[Cryomancer]

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[Donnie]

The fact that this thread has accumulated to 5 pages is testament that "sexual orientation" is a hot topic in our society, and you know why that is? Obviously, because it's dealing with sex. No matter how many of you deny it, deplore it, or criticize it - the fact is that even if you disagree with thinking that the Turtles could have have sex or not, you're still feeding into the idea of it altogether.

I realize my post did the same thing, but I'm really not up-in-arms about this whole thing. Just don't read the crap. Whatever the motives of those who created it, that's their skeleton to deal with. There's these kind of things with every single fandom that doesn't dive into sexual territory. Those of you who are into any other fandom should know that. For example, I'm a huge Lord of the Rings fan. Countless Legolas/Aragorn love pictures pop up on eBay if you search those characters. It bugs the hell out of me, but I just ignore it. Let's take another fandom, like Pokemon. Don't even get me started about the cartoon images we see involving Ash & co. People are driven by sex, it is the fundamental driving force of humanity, the most basic need after hunger. Sad but true.

I think what it boils down to is greatly surmised by Robert California of one of my favorite shows, The Office: "There is no such thing as a product. Don't ever think there is. There is only sex. You realize that what I'm telling you is a universal truth?" :D I love every second of that show.

[Jester]

The big difference between the franchises you mentioned and Turtles though is that at least Ash and Misty or Legolas and Aragorn are similar species. With the Turtles you have mutant reptiles and human females, which makes it a bit more creepy.

[BubblyShell22]

And don't forget about the Mpreg. You see a lot of that, too. Oh, and the various Turtle babies as well. The way I see it, is that even if the Turtles could have sexual intercourse with a female, they couldn't reproduce. So, if they wanted kids, they'd have to adopt in order to have any. And, honestly, I can't see them wanting to put the stresses of their own lives on children. They'd want to keep their kids protected from that if they had any. Once again, another complexity about the Turtles' lives that people just don't speculate on.

[Jester]

Donatello's a smart lad, maybe he could clone some kids...:P Then again, I kinda see adoption as a minor, unintentional story bit in the Mirage universe, so...

[plastroncafe]

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If I could remove any one thing from Fandom as a whole, it's the need of nerds and geeks to demonize things they don't like. If the only way to make yourself feel better about the things you like is to make other people feel small, you have a problem. A serious problem.

It's okay to be squicked out by sex. It's not okay to label people who aren't as "creepy." It's okay to not be sexually receptive to anyone other than your partner, but it's not okay to label people who don't as "creepy."

Honestly? Methinks the geeks doth protest too much.
But then...I've seen all these arguments levied towards me for just being non-straight. So clearly I'm just biased.

As for the topic at hand, this is how I've handled it at the round-robin I've played at for the last 7 years.
Animals, by default, don't normally have the capacity for the same kind of love as humans have. They're not devoid of love, but it's...like the difference between an analog signal with rabbit-eared antenna and high-speed HD digital cable. So I only really had the turtles experience that level of eros after they'd been transformed into humans.

(My goal was to explore every single bad turtle fanfic convention in the most outlandish way possible. I've been pretty successful thus far.)

[plastroncafe]

The way I see it, is that even if the Turtles could have sexual intercourse with a female, they couldn't reproduce. So, if they wanted kids, they'd have to adopt in order to have any. And, honestly, I can't see them wanting to put the stresses of their own lives on children. They'd want to keep their kids protected from that if they had any. Once again, another complexity about the Turtles' lives that people just don't speculate on.

Canon disagrees with you. Michaelangelo reproduces in the Mirage books. I think he also takes over an orphanage in the Archie books as well.

But let's remove the canon rebuttal and think about the story. Splinter adopted and raised his kids to be assassins. What makes you think that the turtles wouldn't do the exact same thing?

(Well, save for Don, who I think is too much of a pacifist for such an endeavor.)

[Stingray69]

Canon disagrees with you. Michaelangelo reproduces in the Mirage books. I think he also takes over an orphanage in the Archie books as well.

But let's remove the canon rebuttal and think about the story. Splinter adopted and raised his kids to be assassins. What makes you think that the turtles wouldn't do the exact same thing?

(Well, save for Don, who I think is too much of a pacifist for such an endeavor.)

That and look at raph he is distraught over the fact that there the last of there kind. So i think if giving the chance he would have a baby.

[Stingray69]

The big difference between the franchises you mentioned and Turtles though is that at least Ash and Misty or Legolas and Aragorn are similar species. With the Turtles you have mutant reptiles and human females, which makes it a bit more creepy.

Yea but theres a lot of human pokemon sex going on in the pokemon world. So its pokemon on human at least the turtles are a lot more human then a pokemon.

[Jester]

I guess I'm just a sexually regressed individual, but I really don't see the appeal of putting it in(or getting it put into by) an animal....real or fictional. Call me crazy.

[Master Splinter]

This thread is completely obscene/inappropriate and I am actually shocked that a mod has let it get this far...

Rule #5 (http://www.thetechnodrome.com/frules.shtml)

-ms

[plastroncafe]

I guess I'm just a sexually regressed individual, but I really don't see the appeal of putting it in(or getting it put into by) an animal....real or fictional. Call me crazy.

That...great for you? I mean, I'm glad you know what you like. What I'm puzzled by is the insistence that there needs be some sort of judgement for what you like or don't. You're not "crazy", you're just you.

And there's nothing wrong with that.

With that out of the way, can we now tackle the idea that it's possible to write something for the sake of writing it, and not actually be turned on by it? We don't seem to have this problem when it comes to violence. I mean, I'm not suddenly questioning whether or not every person who writes an action scene in a fic a sociopath, so why is everyone who writes a love seen suddenly a pervert?

[Jester]

A lot of fan fiction is written about action franchises. The action scenes make a little sense.
It also seems a lot of the sexualized fan fiction is also self insertion fan fiction.

[plastroncafe]

There's so much in your comment that I'd love to investigate, Jester. For not only statistical purposes, but also for sociological ones.

For instance, I'd love to have numbers to refer to, rather than nebulous amounts like "a lot", or even anecdotal evidence to fall back on. Sadly without those numbers all we'll both have is conjecture and rumor to blather about.

[Katie]

I never called anyone a furry....or used furry negatively in my post. While I have a serious aversion to that lifestyle....if someone gets off by f*cking people in mascot costumes or whatever....more power to them. Enjoy.

Be clear though. The above scenario involves ACTUAL people. My problem with this speculation is that people are substituting real life relationships for fantasy lives involving fictional characters. They basically have an imaginary boyfriend. For a 20-30 something person. Sad.

I'm not grossed out by sex. I happen to like it a lot. It's one of the greatest things in a relationship. Bonding closeness. All that. Something special between you and your mate.

Having that "bonding" with a fictional character by daydreaming and writing marysue fanfics about how Raphael saved you and can't live without you as he rips your underwear off with his sais and tells you looks don't matter to him? Larger psychological issues. But I guess if they give up on real life in favor of the fantasy then they have excused themselves from the genepool as it is so whatever.

Do whomever or whatever you like. It doesn't bother me as long as it isn't mealtime or office or whatever conversation. Sex should be a private matter.

[gobo]

Sex should be a private matter.
That's what YE said. :P

[Samhain]

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:lol:................:ohwell:.

[TMNT-Leonardo]

Yea but theres a lot of human pokemon sex going on in the pokemon world. So its pokemon on human at least the turtles are a lot more human then a pokemon.

Some of the Pokemon can look human too...doesn't make it much better though.

[Revan]

Canon disagrees with you. Michaelangelo reproduces in the Mirage books.

If you are referring to Seri the Regenta, I might disagree. It seemed like she was setting him up for something and that she lied about the eggs being his.

[pannoni1]

I'd feel if a mutant and a human had produced a baby, it's DNA would likely be around 75% human and 25% Mutant, similar to how a child like myself is 75% "X" and 25% "Y" if one parent is 100% "X" and the other is 50% "X" and 50% "Y". So, based on the popular relationships in TMNT, I'd expect a Leo/Karai/Lotus child to be a strong fighter and having a "soft shell" and very pale green, almost tannish skin to have a mix of a human and a mutant, four fingers, four toes on each foot, and overall that would be a good child.
A Raph/Mona Lisa child would be the easiest; a nice small-to midsized TMNT-like figure, with a "changeable" personality; at times sweet, and at other times tough. Since Neutrinos are half human/half Dimension X creature, a Mike/Kala intercourse would be around 50% turtle, 25% Dimension Xian, and 25% Human, resulting in a neat, cool looking dude/dudette that likes to party/have fun. Finally, a Don/April (given the new series) child would be smart and advanced in using technology, have decent fighting skills (middling between getting in trouble and fighting out of it), and appear similar to the human/turtle mix I described with Leo above, though with some short red/auburn hair and small brests. This is coming from a "pseudoscientific theory".

[plastroncafe]

If you are referring to Seri the Regenta, I might disagree. It seemed like she was setting him up for something and that she lied about the eggs being his.

Only time will tell in that regard.

[BubblyShell22]

Oookaaay, this thread has gone a bit far than I think it was meant to.

[Coola Yagami]

Only time will tell in that regard.

True but for Mike to think they were his.... 'gasp!!!!' sex must have happened. Yo dudes, Mikey nailed royalty!!!

[Stingray69]

If you are referring to Seri the Regenta, I might disagree. It seemed like she was setting him up for something and that she lied about the eggs being his.

Why do you think that?

[gobo]

Female royalty = diva. I'd never trust a diva.

[Jester]

I'd feel if a mutant and a human had produced a baby, it's DNA would likely be around 75% human and 25% Mutant, similar to how a child like myself is 75% "X" and 25% "Y" if one parent is 100% "X" and the other is 50% "X" and 50% "Y". So, based on the popular relationships in TMNT, I'd expect a Leo/Karai/Lotus child to be a strong fighter and having a "soft shell" and very pale green, almost tannish skin to have a mix of a human and a mutant, four fingers, four toes on each foot, and overall that would be a good child.
A Raph/Mona Lisa child would be the easiest; a nice small-to midsized TMNT-like figure, with a "changeable" personality; at times sweet, and at other times tough. Since Neutrinos are half human/half Dimension X creature, a Mike/Kala intercourse would be around 50% turtle, 25% Dimension Xian, and 25% Human, resulting in a neat, cool looking dude/dudette that likes to party/have fun. Finally, a Don/April (given the new series) child would be smart and advanced in using technology, have decent fighting skills (middling between getting in trouble and fighting out of it), and appear similar to the human/turtle mix I described with Leo above, though with some short red/auburn hair and small brests. This is coming from a "pseudoscientific theory".

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[Slap-Happy]

...Finally, a Don/April (given the new series) child would be smart and advanced in using technology, have decent fighting skills (middling between getting in trouble and fighting out of it), and appear similar to the human/turtle mix I described with Leo above, though with some short red/auburn hair and small brests...
I think you've put a little too much thought into this...

[Jester]

Congratulations, CW you are the 100th poster in a thread that should have dies pages ago. What are you gonna do now?!

[Slap-Happy]

I'm gonna go to Disneyworld! (not Disneyland. They can go suck a lemon.)

[Krang]

Oookaaay, this thread has gone a bit far than I think it was meant to.
I think so, too.