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CyberCubed
09-15-2011, 01:01 AM
Wyrm never appear in the OT but they animated his design for the Playmates toy ad:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Kk8Rrte5rfQ/TgD-rg1G7CI/AAAAAAAAGIg/E_fraODPueg/s1600/WyrmCommercial01.jpg


Why go through the trouble of creating an animated design for him if he wasn't going to appear?

Do you think its possible some episode featuring Wyrm (and possibly Scumbug's first appearance), was in the cards but for some reason got canceled?

pannoni1
09-15-2011, 09:22 AM
He was probably overlooked unfortunately by the writers/staff. He looks like a good threat for the turtles that would have been a great character for a non-Shredder CBS episode. Those teeth look wretched and vile! I definately would have had him over one of those lame Mad Scientist episodes. That hammer really could have done some major damage to anyone!

gobo
09-15-2011, 10:52 AM
I always figured he was in one of those 5 skipped production #s I conspiracy theorized about way back.

sdp
09-15-2011, 11:36 AM
I remember that thread gobo mentions. I don't know though his character design in that commercial looks pretty umm cheap for lack of a better word while the others look like on the show so they probably only made him for the commercial to sell toys and playmates paid for it.

Regardless I consider those few seconds of Wyrm to be canon in the OT and the turtles did face him.

Logan
09-15-2011, 11:47 AM
Regardless I consider those few seconds of Wyrm to be canon in the OT and the turtles did face him.

I can't tell if you're being serious or not, but this elicited a chuckle from me.

Powder
09-15-2011, 01:47 PM
I always figured he was in one of those 5 skipped production #s I conspiracy theorized about way back.

This/that.

hudemx
09-15-2011, 02:12 PM
I always figured he was in one of those 5 skipped production #s I conspiracy theorized about way back.

I would love to read about that, mind to share a link?

gobo
09-15-2011, 02:23 PM
I would love to read about that, mind to share a link?
5 missing old tmnt toon episodes? EXPLAINED (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=4066)
I'm kinda surprised it's still around. ^_^

Galactus
09-15-2011, 02:36 PM
My personal theory is that it was an episode that was partialy animated but ended up being scrapped.

I believe the same would be true of Scumbug, when he appeared in Night Of Rogues it was like he'd fought the T's before. I bet he was supposed to appear in an ep that was scrapped but David Wise thought it was made.

CyberCubed
09-15-2011, 02:48 PM
My personal theory is that it was an episode that was partialy animated but ended up being scrapped.

I believe the same would be true of Scumbug, when he appeared in Night Of Rogues it was like he'd fought the T's before. I bet he was supposed to appear in an ep that was scrapped but David Wise thought it was made.

So Wyrm and Scumbug were possibly introduced in the same episode? Would make sense as they're both bugs.

Antrax on the other hand was clearly from Dimension X, given he introduced himself in said episode.

gobo
09-15-2011, 03:09 PM
Antrax on the other hand was clearly from Dimension X, given he introduced himself in said episode.
That, and Krang introed him as his personal executioner from Dimension X. :P

CyberCubed
09-15-2011, 04:04 PM
That, and Krang introed him as his personal executioner from Dimension X. :P

Actually Shredder did, I just watched the episode yesterday. :p

hudemx
09-15-2011, 04:21 PM
5 missing old tmnt toon episodes? EXPLAINED (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=4066)
I'm kinda surprised it's still around. ^_^

Well, thank you Sir! 8)

gobo
09-15-2011, 07:15 PM
Actually Shredder did, I just watched the episode yesterday. :p
Schooled by CyberCubed... How humiliating... :P

CyberCubed
09-15-2011, 09:58 PM
I really wish both Wyrm and Pizzaface got at least one episode in the OT.

I mean it was really random when Mutagen Man and Muckman/Joeeyeball got one-shot episodes, wasn't it? I wish Wyrm and Pizzaface got 1 episode too.

Thankfully we were spared from:

- Hotspot
- Scratch (I only like his character in toy form)
- Halfcourt
- Sandstorm
- Monty Moose
- King Lionheart
- Doctor El


Also, does anyone think Dr. Cobrato from the episode "Snakes Alive" was sort of based on Scale Tail?

gobo
09-15-2011, 10:43 PM
Also, does anyone think Dr. Cobrato from the episode "Snakes Alive" was sort of based on Scale Tail?
When I was watching that ep for the first time, I specifically remember expecting it to be that snake mutant they had recently made a figure for. When it turned out to be a generic snake-man, I figured it was probably for the best as the ep sucked anyway.

CyberCubed
09-15-2011, 10:55 PM
When I was watching that ep for the first time, I specifically remember expecting it to be that snake mutant they had recently made a figure for. When it turned out to be a generic snake-man, I figured it was probably for the best as the ep sucked anyway.

The ep sucked? I thought it was great.

gobo
09-15-2011, 11:05 PM
The ep sucked? I thought it was great.
Leonardo conveniently having a crippling fear of snakes that was never apparent in the least before just kinda tainted the whole ep for me. I despise plug & play plots.

CyberCubed
09-15-2011, 11:17 PM
Leonardo conveniently having a crippling fear of snakes that was never apparent in the least before just kinda tainted the whole ep for me. I despise plug & play plots.

I can't recall the turtles ever coming across snakes before said episode. It was fear not brought up.

sdp
09-16-2011, 11:15 PM
Doctor El, Scratch and Sandstorm weren't too bad to not deserve an episode, definitely better than random mad scientist of the week or yet another Shredder/Krang recycled plot. And god I am glad Pizzaface didn't make it in an episode, I hated that figure I don't even know why I owned it, what possible story could you come up with that character? The OT equivalent of Garbageman.

Galactus
09-18-2011, 10:15 PM
I can't recall the turtles ever coming across snakes before said episode. It was fear not brought up.

Surely you remember The Incredible Shrinking Turtles.

Then again I guess Leo forgot how he was the only one seemingly not scared of the sewer snake and fought it off.

Donnie
09-18-2011, 11:47 PM
Wyrm & Scumbug were both fought by Donatello & Raphael in an issue of Archie Adventures. I suppose that was after Wyrm's toy design, however. I'm not sure.

Jester
09-19-2011, 12:19 AM
Wyrm & Scumbug were both fought by Donatello & Raphael in an issue of Archie Adventures. I suppose that was after Wyrm's toy design, however. I'm not sure.
Well after. Scumbug and Wyrm appeared together earlier in the series too, I think right after the first Codename: Chameleon story. In fact, they (Scumbug and Wyrm and Chameleon) seem to be back to back both times they appear.

CyberCubed
09-19-2011, 12:19 AM
Wyrm & Scumbug were both fought by Donatello & Raphael in an issue of Archie Adventures. I suppose that was after Wyrm's toy design, however. I'm not sure.

Wyrm was all yellow in the Archie series, so his design here is more based on the toy.

Would make sense, given this clip is from a Playmates toy commercial.

Donnie
09-19-2011, 11:07 AM
Well after. Scumbug and Wyrm appeared together earlier in the series too, I think right after the first Codename: Chameleon story. In fact, they (Scumbug and Wyrm and Chameleon) seem to be back to back both times they appear.

Wyrm was all yellow in the Archie series, so his design here is more based on the toy.

Would make sense, given this clip is from a Playmates toy commercial.

AhHA! Thanks.

cryan
09-19-2011, 01:54 PM
I was always curious if Mona Lisa ever made it into the comercials?The thing with the Wyrm is that he didn't appear in the series.I do remember him from the Archie comics though.Interesting he was animated for the Playmates ad.

Stingray69
09-19-2011, 02:39 PM
Does any one have the video of this?

tone-master21
09-19-2011, 05:52 PM
Does any one have the video of this?

Here you go:

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Jester
09-19-2011, 06:22 PM
Seems all the animation of the characters (3 of the four appear in Planet of the Turtleoid) is new stuff, not recycled from an episode. Maybe Wyrm may have just never got an episode.

CyberCubed
09-19-2011, 11:55 PM
Seems all the animation of the characters (3 of the four appear in Planet of the Turtleoid) is new stuff, not recycled from an episode. Maybe Wyrm may have just never got an episode.

Or maybe he was supposed to get an appearance but it was scraped.

Surprised he had a voice too in the video, which makes me think it might be from some ep canceled in mid-production.

Stingray69
09-20-2011, 01:04 PM
Thanks for the video post. Does any one else like the way they say teenage mutant ninja turtles at the end or is it just me?

gobo
09-20-2011, 02:19 PM
Does any one else like the way they say teenage mutant ninja turtles at the end or is it just me?
Always loved it. ^_^

sdp
06-21-2021, 09:39 PM
Scumbug's reference to fighting the turtles was just thrown in there to make it seem as if he had some history not referencing to any actual lost episode.
Same with Wyrm, he's off model and cheap looking while the characters who actually appeared on the show look much better, clearly he was made only for the commercial and since it was 3 seconds of animation no one cared to put too much detail on that character. There is no lost Wyrm episode.

I'm surprised hot head never got an episode though, he seemed like a cool character.

I really wish both Wyrm and Pizzaface got at least one episode in the OT.

Thankfully we were spared from:

- Hotspot
- Scratch (I only like his character in toy form)
- Halfcourt
- Sandstorm
- Monty Moose
- King Lionheart
- Doctor El


Also, does anyone think Dr. Cobrato from the episode "Snakes Alive" was sort of based on Scale Tail?
I thought Dr Cobrato WAS scale tail.

Pizzaface is an awful character, unsure why I had that toy as a kid.
Scratch would've just been an OT version of old hob. I really wish Rise had used hotspot, sandstorm, mony moose, lionheart and doctor el (well that one would've not been possible due to PC culture), I feel that's the only show that could've done them right. I know halfcourt gets a blink and miss cameo but still wasted opportunity. Would it have been silly? sure but we live in a world of Lita the teenage mutant girl turtle fanfic is canon so who cares.

Sumac
06-22-2021, 06:14 AM
I have a feeling that this snake guy was based of Scale Tail, like Ray from "Revel without fins" was based on Ray Fillet / Man Ray.

Mad Dog McMutt
07-10-2021, 07:14 PM
What a missed opportunity that was for them not to use scale tail.

MikeandRaph87
07-10-2021, 07:30 PM
What a missed opportunity that was for them not to use scale tail.

Yes, he should have been the villain in the episode 'Snakes Alive!' in 1992.