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pannoni1
09-15-2011, 08:18 PM
Star Wars is currently having all of their movies released in a super Blu-Ray set. Perhaps to keep fans from buying TMNT products, maybe Liongate could move on to Blu-Ray versions after Season 10 is released, preferably if the Nick series is a hit. Even more features should be included that weren't on the DVD sets, such as original toy/videogame commercials, interviews with people who worked on the show not on the DVD versions. I'm not sure how long Blu-Ray will be around, though the nostalgia factor will be stronger for this second time around, especially if the audience becomes young families buying the DVDs for their children. Of course when the Nick series becomes available, it should be available on both DVD and Blu-Ray. I'm not sure if the quality will be that much better compared to DVDs, however.

MrPliggins
09-15-2011, 08:51 PM
I don't think the shows were created in HD, so a lot of work would need to be done to them. I doubt it would happen. Some of the episodes on the old toon releases were actually taken from VHS copies! (one of the episodes even has the F.H.E. bumper at the end)

CyberCubed
09-15-2011, 09:09 PM
I don't think any company would ever bother remastering either series for HD.

So I'd say no.

Bauer536
09-15-2011, 09:45 PM
I think in the later future (when the economy is back in shape :tlol:) the OT series will be released on Blu-Ray. About TNM or the 2k3 series, I'm not sure. No doubt about it, they'll probably release the 2k12 series on Blu-Ray, too. I don't know. I know Spongebob's big, but this could be Nickelodeon's Miami Vice, except without Crockett and Tubbs.:tlol: I'm positive, that maybe shows like Spongebob, iCarly, Rugrats, will all go to Blu-Ray with the turtles. And if we're lucky, I would LOVE to see The Penguins of Madagascar on Blu-Ray: this time the complete series. So I'm confident that the OT and 2k12 may get a lot of attention for Blu-Ray fans, even the 2k13 or whatsoever new film.:tsmile: God only knows when that'll be released. It's killing me.:tgrumble:

Jester
09-15-2011, 09:45 PM
Would the Blu Ray have Shredder saying "NO!!" as he throws Krang down a portal in the Technodrome?

Sorry...couldn't resist.

gobo
09-15-2011, 10:33 PM
Possible, but highly unlikely. Remastering? Don't make me laugh. If you personally or some other fan from around here would put up the capital to do so and get the rights from Lionsgate, then I'd believe that it would happen. Otherwise, I don't count on it or even hope for it. Very few cartoons get Bluray releases, and the ones that do are always contemporary.

CyberCubed
09-15-2011, 10:40 PM
The only blu-ray cartoons I know of were the Justice League cartoon, and I hear Batman:TAS and Superman and Batman Beyond are headed to blu-ray?

gobo
09-15-2011, 10:56 PM
Wolverine & The X-Men has a Blu. Not sure about any other kids' animated series tho.


EDIT: DragonBall Z Kai was 5 Blus so far.

d_osborn
09-15-2011, 11:18 PM
the OT TMNT toon will never be released in HD. it was designed and mastered for NTSC/PAL broadcast. many of you probably have original cels, and you can easily see how sloppy they are under close inspection. the cels and backgrounds were never meant to be seen in a high quality medium. aside from SD episodes being bundled in blu-ray discs, it's not gonna happen.

most newer cartoons are produced for HD delivery, hence the blu-ray releases.

oldmanwinters
09-15-2011, 11:51 PM
ome of the episodes on the old toon releases were actually taken from VHS copies! (one of the episodes even has the F.H.E. bumper at the end)

Wow, I must have missed that! Can you provide me with the reference?:lol:

gobo
09-16-2011, 12:55 AM
Wow, I must have missed that! Can you provide me with the reference?:lol:
BOTH releases of Plan Six have it at the end.

Leonardo87
09-16-2011, 02:28 AM
The only blu-ray cartoons I know of were the Justice League cartoon, and I hear Batman:TAS and Superman and Batman Beyond are headed to blu-ray?

Yes; they are on the way of being onto Blu-Ray but not released anytime soon yet.

oldmanwinters
09-16-2011, 11:50 AM
BOTH releases of Plan Six have it at the end.

Wow... did that episode actually get released on VHS back in the day? I don't remember owning it.

gobo
09-16-2011, 12:49 PM
Wow... did that episode actually get released on VHS back in the day? I don't remember owning it.
No. Not in America, at least.

Spitfire
09-16-2011, 02:16 PM
Every animated film and series I've seen on bluray looks amazing no matter how old it is. The OT wouldn't work as others have said it's take from VHS copies.

2K3 would though and I'd love to see it. Even if it wasn't high def so much as a way to release the whole series on a few disks. A bluray has 5 times the disk space of a DVD. Not sure why more people aren't taking advantage of that.

No. Not in America, at least.
No that episode was on VHS, I had it. I don't recall which one though. I think it was from the Bad Guys series, maybe Turtle Terminator.

EDIT: I was wrong it's on the "Planet of the Turtles" tape. Part of the Hollywood Dudes series.

John Pannozzi
09-16-2011, 04:18 PM
If the original film material (negatives) to the OT still exist, they could conceivably remaster those in HD.

The NT, on the other hand, was done digitally, and only exists in SD form.

Turtles Forever, though, has produced in HD, IIRC, so that could be released on Blu-ray.

Spitfire
09-16-2011, 04:31 PM
The fact it was done digitally means it could be anything. Unless they destroyed the master files it could be re-exported in HD if need be.

John Pannozzi
09-16-2011, 05:30 PM
The fact it was done digitally means it could be anything. Unless they destroyed the master files it could be re-exported in HD if need be.

From what I've heard, that wouldn't be possible, but then again, I don't much about the technical side of digitally-produced 2-D animation.

LeoNerdo
09-16-2011, 05:39 PM
Turtles Forever should have been on Blu-Ray. It still should.

CyberCubed
09-16-2011, 06:16 PM
Well if someone can get Nick to get Shout Factory to release the 4kids series and Turtles Forever on blu ray, then that would be good.

How can this be done? I wish there was something I could do.

John Pannozzi
09-16-2011, 07:52 PM
Well if someone can get Nick to get Shout Factory to release the 4kids series and Turtles Forever on blu ray, then that would be good.

How can this be done? I wish there was something I could do.

Here's something you can do, in 2 easy steps:

1. Become a member at the Shout! Factory Message Board. (http://www.shoutfactory.com/community.aspx)

2. Voice (http://www.shoutfactory.com/community/1649/thread.aspx) your concerns (http://www.shoutfactory.com/community/1845/thread.aspx) in one (http://www.shoutfactory.com/community/2058/thread.aspx) or more (http://www.shoutfactory.com/community/2267/thread.aspx) of the (http://www.shoutfactory.com/community/2264/thread.aspx) threads linked in this sentence.

DoctorHver
09-19-2011, 09:06 PM
NO, don't want HD copy of these cartoons nether OT or NT as I do feel that to be betray to the original broadcasting. As these were not produced for big silver screen rather for your small tube screen. For OT and For NT it was produced for your final tube screen and maybe the earliest flat screen so so I don't want HD copy of that eather. AS for 35mm negive esisting of OT that actually should be case as they are produed that late in film history. In comparison most original negive of American golden age of theaterical cartoons form 1928-1972 still exist. 35 mm for TV might not nesserery mean ther same thing as 35 mm for theaterical release but now im not expert on diffrences or none-diffrences of 35mm TV negative vs 35 mm theaterical negative.

Spitfire
10-02-2011, 05:00 PM
Batman Beyond Return of the Joker was produced for VHS and it looks killer in HD. So was Justice League. I highly doubt that would be an issue.

Samhain
10-02-2011, 06:08 PM
NO, don't want HD copy of these cartoons nether OT or NT as I do feel that to be betray to the original broadcasting. As these were not produced for big silver screen rather for your small tube screen. For OT and For NT it was produced for your final tube screen and maybe the earliest flat screen so so I don't want HD copy of that eather. AS for 35mm negive esisting of OT that actually should be case as they are produed that late in film history. In comparison most original negive of American golden age of theaterical cartoons form 1928-1972 still exist. 35 mm for TV might not nesserery mean ther same thing as 35 mm for theaterical release but now im not expert on diffrences or none-diffrences of 35mm TV negative vs 35 mm theaterical negative.

Good. Don't buy it then when and if it comes out.

EvilStarLegacy
10-03-2011, 04:04 PM
It depends on the original versions of the episodes. If everything was kept pristine and originally recorded in a good resolution, resizing it to 1440x1080(4:3 on a widescreen HD TV) and doing some post-processing to sharpen it should be enough... but if they don't have the original recording, it could get messy. Some episodes on the DVDs were ripped from the VHS versions. Either they didn't care or that was the best version available.

I think it would be more likely to get the 4kids show in Blu-ray. It still would be awesome to get it in HD.

pannoni1
12-04-2011, 10:49 AM
I'm bumping this thread as I forgot that a Blu-Ray disc can hold more than five times the storage capacity of traditional DVDs. Therefore, even if the OT/earlier NT seasons can't be HD, they can still use the same quality found on the DVDs and simply pack more episodes onto a single disc (if my calculations are correct, that's 40 episodes on a single disc given there were 8 per disc on the season 4 sets), therefore having a complete OT series on a 5-disc box set! Why release season 10 on DVD when this could be a more lucrative idea (how about $69.99 for the entire OT series on one boxset the size of the Season 4 set?) Don't forget the 4kids series where the entire series can fit onto 4 discs, and there will still be room for bonus features!

Rambaldi47
12-08-2011, 10:39 AM
I would LOVE a Complete Series set, either on DVD or Blu-Ray. I'm OCD about my collection, so it really bothers me that Season 3 is broken up into like 5 volumes, and then none of the box sets for seasons 4-9 match up. At least 8 and 9 are similar. Does anyone know if there are plans for a complete set once season 10 is released? Or at the very least, I'd like to see Season 3 reissued, like they did for season 8 after the backlash of breaking it into 4 volumes.

gobo
12-08-2011, 10:48 AM
Season 3 was 4 volumes. Also, 'twas Season 7 that was consolidated, not 8. As for your question: no, nothing is known of their plans.

pferreira
12-08-2011, 02:52 PM
Look at what Time Life did with The Real Ghostbusters. That is what should be done with the OT cartoon. How about contacting Andy Mangels about this? He could push Lionsgate into doing a complete set, even if it's just for DVD.

SherlockJr
12-08-2011, 02:56 PM
A box set of the OT would be amazing! No more taking forever to wait for another DVD volume every millennium! If they do choose to release the series on Blu-Ray, it certainly won't be for another few years, IMO.

Abnormal Freak
12-08-2011, 06:14 PM
Having the OT in HD would be awesome, but I'd imagine it just isn't possible. Most cartoon TV shows at the time were mastered in standard definition, with many post-filming effects done this way. If the original analog video masters could be found and upscaled nicely, you could get Blu-rays that look loads better than the current DVDs—but it wouldn't be true HD. That would be impossible unless original camera negatives still exist (doubtful) and someone wanted to put in the money to scan the film in HD and redo all the effects (not happening).

I'd be happy with just the original masters transferred to DVD, as even that would give us much better quality than what we have—but I'm guessing the masters are lost.

TheSkeletonMan939
12-08-2011, 06:41 PM
An average Blu-Ray can hold 25 gigs, more or less. If each episode were a bit less than one gigabyte, there'd be room for about a whole season (26 episodes) and extras! I giant seven-disk set for the 4Kids series and about 13 disks for the Fred Wolf series would be great!