Which Spiderman/X-men cartoon is the best?

[CyberCubed]

Its generally agreed upon that B:TAS is the best Batman cartoon, compared to its predecessor "Superfriends," and its descendants "The Batman," and "Brave and the Bold."

There have thus far been nearly 5-6 Spiderman cartoons and 3 X-men cartoons, more if you count the Marvel anime stuff or the standalone movies.

Which do you recommend?

[Slap-Happy]

Spectacular Spider-Man

I'm not sure about X-Men, but I'm leaning toward Evolution or Wolverine and the X-Men. I know most people think 90s X-Men's the best, but I could never really get into it.

[Voltron]

Spectacular all the way, man.

As for X-Men, it never really mattered to me.

[Jester]

I've never really been disappointed by either. Though the Spidey cartoons from before my time (the 67 series, Amazing Friends, ect) were pretty bad.

[AleXviD]

X-Men TAS and Spider-Man TAS, of course. X-Men Evolution and Wolverine & Co were also good in their own way, but they weren't even half as epic. Spectacular Spider-Man had a descent attempt at storytelling and new interpretation of old characters (if I may say so), but it also had horrific character designs. Also, I like few first episodes of Spider-Man '67 but soon it became boring and after that... Ralph Bakshi, yuck. All other Spidey cartoons were just plane bad.

[ZariusTwo]

All other Spidey cartoons were just plane bad.

Ha. No. Amazing Friends and the 80s solo cartoon were fun, and both are easily superior to the 90s series, which is overrated. Likewise the 90s X-Men cartoon is s*ite, it's storylines were boring and the voice acting horrendous.

Spectacular is the best hands down, as for X-Men, toss-up between Evo and Wolverine, the latter is a giant "f*ck you" to the status quoes Marvel had set up in the books so it gets extra points for that. I hate Marvel's comics range.

I've never really been disappointed by either. Though the Spidey cartoons from before my time (the 67 series, Amazing Friends, ect) were pretty bad.

Horses*it. Amazing Friends remains one of the most popular and most fun versions of Spidey ever. I'd take it over the 90s cartoon anyday

[Peanut]

Spectacular and Evolution are the best for their respective series. Watching the 90's X-Men cartoon is painful at this point. I haven't had the chance to see much 90's Spidey since it actually aired on TV, but I assume it aged as poorly as X-Men did.

Spectacular, whatever stupid thing anyone says about the character designs, was amazing. The quality of the animation, especially in action sequences, has no equal where Spider-Man is concerned and they mixed up enough standard story beats to actually make it interesting to watch.

As far as Wolverine and the X-Men goes, I felt like that show took a sharp turn and tanked. As soon as they jumped into the time-traveling Professor X sh*t, the quality declined rapidly. It did stuff differently, which is great, but the stuff they did just wasn't very...fun? I dunno.

My only problem with Evolution, aside from most of the designs being kinda plain, is that it ended just as it was about to get great. Like Spectacular, it really wasn't time for it to go.

All of the older stuff is f*cking ace, though. 60's and Amazing Friends are still absolutely bananas fantastic.
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[Candy Kappa]

Spectacular Spider-Man and X-Men Evolution

[Godzilla]

X-Men TAS and Spider-Man TAS, of course.

That's it.

[The Stryker]

I don't know how anybody can say 90's X-men is good, much less the best anything.

The theme song is seriously the only good thing about it.

[CyberCubed]

I am really hoping the new Spiderman cartoon coming in 2012 turns out to be the definitive version. We really need a good, long lasting Spiderman cartoon.

[Spitfire]

Spectacular Spider-man is easily the best for the reasons given in this topic. I personally liked Wolverine and the X-men a lot. It's better then the 90's show for sure. It also looks stellar in HD. I don't hate the 90's series but even as a fan I can admit the newer ones are far better

The new Avengers series is really great too. Marvel has really stepped up their game on their toons.

[Ashangelo]

Spectacluar Spider-Man, hands down. I also really loved Spider-Man: The New Animated Series, the CGI show that aired on MTV. I was so pissed when it got cancelled.

[Jester]

I also really loved the CGI show that aired on MTV. I was so pissed when it got cancelled.
Especially when it ended on a cliff hanger.

[Godzilla]

I don't know how anybody can say 90's X-men is good, much less the best anything.

The theme song is seriously the only good thing about it.

I don't know why the 1990's X-Men animated series wouldn't be considered the best, or for that matter, one of the best animated efforts Marvel released for a good number of years.

Storytelling with dramatic beats, very decent animation, nice character designs, entertaining voice work, continued storylines, ect ect. Yeah, it was pretty much the best in what fans growing up during the early-mid 1990's and were fans of X-Men (the debut) could hope for.

The 1990's Spider-Man animated series achieved this as well, though Marvel did try with Iron Man, Fantastic Four, and the Incredible Hulk. Unfortunately, there's definately reasons why those shows were short lived with fans during the '90's, and X-Men TAS along with Spider-Man TAS continued for a number of years.

[The Stryker]

I don't know why the 1990's X-Men animated series wouldn't be considered the best, or for that matter, one of the best animated efforts Marvel released for a good number of years.

Storytelling with dramatic beats, very decent animation, nice character designs, entertaining voice work, continued storylines, ect ect. Yeah, it was pretty much the best in what fans growing up during the early-mid 1990's and were fans of X-Men (the debut) could hope for.

What show were you watching? Really. Everything you just said is wrong.

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[KROW]

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This show kicked ass.

[Koschei]

X-Men: Despite the many inconsistencies of animation and story the show is still very epic. It had a close to adult theme where the drama and style could be appreciated by all ages.
Though Evolution had a good flow of animation it seemed to much in the time and trendy. That and it ended right before it got good.
The same with Wolverine and the X-Men, they are more like cartoons compared to an animated series. (I also hate the fact that it is "Wolverine and the X-men")

It's to say which is actually better since they are so much different.
I love the character designs of the newer shows, but when you stylize it so much it takes away that human element.
IMO a cartoon is not as epic as an animated series.

But I guess you also have to look at the run of the show.
If Evolution would have ran 2 more seasons this might be a different story.
If the 90's Spider-Man only ran for 2 seasons this might be a different story.

And don't forget about NBC's 2 episode run of X-Men, awesome animation and style. But Wolverine's Ausie accent? EEEEEEWWWWWWWWW.

[Godzilla]

What show were you watching? Really. Everything you just said is wrong.

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The one I just posted about.

Ooh, look. Another edit job video that can be done with ANY show. *slow clap*


This show kicked ass.

Exactly.

[Godzilla]

And don't forget about NBC's 2 episode run of X-Men, awesome animation and style. But Wolverine's Ausie accent? EEEEEEWWWWWWWWW.

Yeah, the animation was very nice (similar to that of GI Joe & Transformers G1), but some of the interpretations and storytelling style just didn't click. Though it did live on as a classic arcade game that came out the same year as X-Men TAS. Something of which I think people are more familiar with than the 'Pryde of the X-Men' pilot it was based on.

[sdp]

Spectacular Spiderman was indeed spectacular even if it didn't get a full run. But I guess because of that it didn't show enough of the spideys mythos so I can see how it is not the definitive spiderman cartoon. despite the shortcomings I think Spiderman TAS gets too much hate. sure it hasn't aged perfectly but I still think its not only perfectly watchable but the best interpretation of a more complete spidey mythos in animation. The MTV show was alright, it tried a bit too hard to be "hip" but the style was fun, I loved the new girl they made up for the show as well. but its far from an amazing cartoon. its fine for what it was. The new cartoon I'm not counting on it being great at least not for the defintiive spiderman cartoon mostly because it's a team up show and while it may be awesome it wouldn't be a true spiderman cartoon with all the team ups. I should also mention that Spiderman Unlimited is not a terrible show, it has a a few stinkers but also plenty of great ideas and I wish we had seen more of it.

As far as X-Men. Wolverine and the X-Men was a fine cartoon, would have loved a second season, didn't like some of the changes but it was interesting. Evolution had a great run, not the definitive version in my opinion since it went a bit too far from the source material with some characters, especially the first season. show is great though. And yes despite its short comings I also feel that the 90s Xmen cartoons is the definitive version, not that the others aren't good but we got so much of their x-men mythos.

I'm trying to judge this without nostalgia goggles and I think I do a good job at it, but I do realize how much hate the 90s shows get.

and since we're talking about Marvel...

The new avengers cartoon while not as amazing as some people say its definitely fun. umm the 90s avengers cartoon is average, not that bad. the 90s ironman/fantastic four are pretty bad, both seasons, not just the first like some people may have you believe. the hulk cartoon is alright and the silver surfer is pretty good.

I would love another marvel animated universe like the one in the 90s, it didn't matter that there were continuity flubs since it meant each series could do whatever it wanted and not worry about continuity with the other shows, something maybe the comics should take into account. it was still cool seeing heroes from other shows in your show. my mind was blown as a kid when the x-men showed up on spiderman.

[Ashangelo]

Especially when it ended on a cliff hanger.

Tell me about it. Ugh, so irritating.

[Peanut]

I don't know why the 1990's X-Men animated series wouldn't be considered the best, or for that matter, one of the best animated efforts Marvel released for a good number of years.

Storytelling with dramatic beats, very decent animation, nice character designs, entertaining voice work, continued storylines, ect ect. Yeah, it was pretty much the best in what fans growing up during the early-mid 1990's and were fans of X-Men (the debut) could hope for.

The 1990's Spider-Man animated series achieved this as well, though Marvel did try with Iron Man, Fantastic Four, and the Incredible Hulk. Unfortunately, there's definately reasons why those shows were short lived with fans during the '90's, and X-Men TAS along with Spider-Man TAS continued for a number of years.

It was definitely the best in the 90's, but the only true test of quality is time, and time has shown 90's X-Men to be pretty hilarious in numerous unintended ways.

Even as a huge fan of both Spider-Man and X-Men from the 90's, I'm willing to say this. I love Spider-Man TAS way more than Spectacular, but I still think Spectacular is the better show. I think if you look at it objectively, without any nostalgia blinding you or any bias, it's a pretty clear choice.

[Spitfire]

the 90s ironman/fantastic four are pretty bad, both seasons, not just the first like some people may have you believe. the hulk cartoon is alright and the silver surfer is pretty good..

What was so bad about the 2nd seasons of Ironman and F4? Better animation style, plots were on par with what the other Marvel toons were doing and they had some cool cameos. Hulk had an awesome first season followed up by an almost unwatchable 2nd season.

[Redeemer]

Hmmm...there are some interesting opinions on here. I have to say I like the 90's spider-man the best as for any spider man series, I watched most of his incarnations to a degree, but I think I still need to give spectacular another chance.
As for xmen I think I like X-men evolution better, only bc when it aired I was in middle school/High school and I could relate to the characters better, but I have a lot of respect for the 90's xmen, I would like to re-watch the series eventually. Unfortunately I have never seen Wolverine and the xmen, I would like to watch it eventually.

[sdp]

What was so bad about the 2nd seasons of Ironman and F4? Better animation style, plots were on par with what the other Marvel toons were doing and they had some cool cameos. Hulk had an awesome first season followed up by an almost unwatchable 2nd season.

yeah it had better animation but the plots while i guess improvement over S1 weren't that much better either, they still lacked and weren't that great. In fact I kind of prefer the S1 of FF and IM over S2. While the plots were worse IM at least had a huge cast of characters that even if they only served as fan service it was fun to see this "east coast" avengers animated and I found that more amusing to watch than the slightly better plots of S2. Same thing with F4, the first season seemed to try to adapt more "classic" F4 stories which is also why I like it over the second. Same thing with Hulk, the first season I felt was not that great, all episodes are very similar and they went over board with the special guests. In the second season I found the inner battle between grey/green hulk far more interesting even if the plots were less dark.

[Godzilla]

It was definitely the best in the 90's, but the only true test of quality is time, and time has shown 90's X-Men to be pretty hilarious in numerous unintended ways.

Even as a huge fan of both Spider-Man and X-Men from the 90's, I'm willing to say this. I love Spider-Man TAS way more than Spectacular, but I still think Spectacular is the better show. I think if you look at it objectively, without any nostalgia blinding you or any bias, it's a pretty clear choice.

I find blinding to be too strong of a word in looking back at the series. We are, after all, talking about a show that's nearing the 20 year mark and aired during years where it was especially difficult to watch comic book related material that wasn't clearly the standard saturday morning cartoon fare that kids growing up during the 1990's were unfortunately used to. Were there exceptions to this? Of course. But at the same time, there sure was ALOT of fluff as well.
Has later shows done a more sufficient job in pulling back from being quite so melodramatic? Sure. I would certainly hope approaches to the material would have evolved for the better by this point. However, when cease to focus so heavily on that, and round off the choices in terms of animation, character designs, particular voice acting (some were of course better than others), and overall impact of the shows in what they brought to the table ... I agree. The choices couldn't be more clearer.

[Rikirk]

Spectacular Spiderman was best, and the 1967 cartoon for purely nostalgic reasons.

[Fugitoid Jones]

I really like both the 90's Spidey series and Spectacular. I guess if I had to choose one, I'd probably go with Spectacular, just because I prefer Spidey as a teenager experiencing high school drama, as opposed to the adult Spidey of the 90's series.

As for X-Men, I haven't watched all of X-Men: Evolution (only the first 2 seasons) or Wolverine and the X-Men. But I love the 90's series. I don't care what the haters say, I think the animation is decent, the stories fun, and the voice acting/dialogue to be awesome. Not many cartoons make me literally LOL, but the dialogue for Beast and Wolverine in that series could do it, and the voice acting I thought was generally spot on with how I imagined the characters' voices sounding like when I'd read the comics.

[AquaParade]

Spectacular Spider-man has my vote. The animation was incredibly fun and the season plots were well fleshed out. Although, at least once an episode I will roll my eyes at a super lame piece of dialogue, or awkward "high school exchange" between two characters.