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gobo
10-18-2011, 11:59 AM
In Germany... :P According to fellow 'Dromer, hudemx, (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?p=882925#post882925) Germany's next box-set of the 1987 cartoon will include these episodes, and will be released on December 5th.

The box will include all episodes in their uncut, English audio glory with an option to watch the UK-based edit with German dialogue. So, for fans importing the set, all you need to worry about is getting around the Region coding... and maybe the PAL video format might be an issue as well.

oldmanwinters
10-18-2011, 12:05 PM
*sign* [EDIT: *sigh*; dumb "h's"]

Once again, the TMNT get the shaft in their home country! Why was Lionsgate Germany smart enough to include them but Lionsgate US oblivious?

hudemx
10-18-2011, 12:28 PM
*sign*

Once again, the TMNT get the shaft in their home country! Why was Lionsgate Germany smart enough to include them but Lionsgate US oblivious?

Maybe because there is no Lionsgate Germany only KSM ;)

CyberCubed
10-18-2011, 12:47 PM
At the very least, people can rip the two episodes off the DVD and upload them to the Internet so everyone who doesn't import can have nice clean copies.

gobo
10-18-2011, 12:49 PM
XD you guys doing this on purpose? I read OMW's typo.
*sign*
Immediately, a movie quote comes to mind. "It's a sign, alright. 'GOING OUT OF BUSINESS'" Then, here comes hud:
there is no Lionsgate Germany only KSM ;)
"There is no Dana. Only Zuul." anyone? :P

hudemx
10-18-2011, 01:04 PM
@ gobo:
Nice one ^^

Vegita-San
10-18-2011, 01:09 PM
*sign*

Once again, the TMNT get the shaft in their home country! Why was Lionsgate Germany smart enough to include them but Lionsgate US oblivious?

Because american companies just don't give a crap... no one puts any effort into things anymore..

愛
10-18-2011, 01:44 PM
At the very least, people can rip the two episodes off the DVD and upload them to the Internet so everyone who doesn't import can have nice clean copies.

We do not encourage piracy here, CyberCubed. Please refrain from any discussion of that sort of activity.

Stingray69
10-18-2011, 02:15 PM
So how do we in the states get our hands on a copy?

hudemx
10-18-2011, 02:40 PM
So how do we in the states get our hands on a copy?

I'm pretty sure gobo will import some copys to the States like he did with the "Special Edition" of the original Movie, but I'm not sure especially since the Boxsets for the TV Show are a "bit" more expensive...

Best you ask him ;)

gobo
10-18-2011, 02:50 PM
So how do we in the states get our hands on a copy?
Good question. It will be available at Amazon.DE eventually. Accounts for any country's Amazon affiliate are valid there. However, there's a little issue with their international shipping charges. Last time I checked, it was 14 Euros for any quantity of copies to America. So, I'll likely be running the same program I did for the movie w/ commentary that was also a Germany-exclusive. I'll take orders from interested fans to cut down on shipping, then redistribute to wherever as cheap as I can afford to make it. I only insist on breaking even though.

Jester
10-18-2011, 03:59 PM
"ONCE UPON A TIME MACHINE" & "PLANET OF THE TURTLEOIDS" coming to DVD!!

...in Germany
"Man, give a guy a heart attack!"

marcelangelo
10-19-2011, 02:25 PM
hey, great to hear that ksm is back on releasing the seasons dvds!!!I didn't even know about vol 4...this is really a great time to be a turtles fan...

Deathknight
10-19-2011, 09:30 PM
Really wish we'd get this in the states. Not really worth it to me to import it for just those 2 episodes. I'll just have to hang onto my vhs I suppose. However, it was brought to my attention that Mikey makes some remark about Herman the Horrible that was cut out of the VHS release. That I definitely want to hear.

tOkKa
10-20-2011, 03:35 AM
-->> .. o flippy floppy donkey ding-dong.. :teek:

tOkKa
10-20-2011, 06:53 PM
Good question. It will be available at Amazon.DE eventually. Accounts for any country's Amazon affiliate are valid there. However, there's a little issue with their international shipping charges. Last time I checked, it was 14 Euros for any quantity of copies to America. So, I'll likely be running the same program I did for the movie w/ commentary that was also a Germany-exclusive. I'll take orders from interested fans to cut down on shipping, then redistribute to wherever as cheap as I can afford to make it. I only insist on breaking even though.



-->> Dude, you are awesome.. keep us in check.

I'd never thought i'd see a release like this and have not ever participated in such an exchange !!

Really really COOL !! !! !!

SS Kakarot
10-24-2011, 05:27 AM
This is great news, thanks hudemx! :tgrin:

gobo
10-24-2011, 01:25 PM
Looks like it'll probably be $40-45/set. Bit more expensive than I was hoping... :ohwell: So, unless I get a lot of interest, I doubt I can afford to do this.

hudemx
10-24-2011, 01:49 PM
Looks like it'll probably be $40-45/set. Bit more expensive than I was hoping... :ohwell: So, unless I get a lot of interest, I doubt I can afford to do this.

Price will drop until the releasedate - amazon germany usually drops the price a few days before the official Release by apx 5 - 10 Euros

Roseangelo
10-24-2011, 02:17 PM
Looks like it'll probably be $40-45/set. Bit more expensive than I was hoping... :ohwell: So, unless I get a lot of interest, I doubt I can afford to do this.

Is $45 even worth it for two episodes? I think I'll stick with my VHS conversions.

Vegita-San
10-24-2011, 06:17 PM
THe problem I have with importing...is that everything I thought that would never be released in the US..was eventually released. Then you have a UK region 2 DVD that cost quite a penny to import..and no use for it anymore..

I'd be very upset spending $45's and then seeing the missing shows on the season 10 set

oldmanwinters
10-24-2011, 06:49 PM
THe problem I have with importing...is that everything I thought that would never be released in the US..was eventually released. Then you have a UK region 2 DVD that cost quite a penny to import..and no use for it anymore..

I'd be very upset spending $45's and then seeing the missing shows on the season 10 set

That's the #1 reason why I can never justify spending the cash on such things.

Is $45 even worth it for two episodes? I think I'll stick with my VHS conversions.

Indeed, I still watch my "Turtles Awesome Easter" VHS from time to time. "Planet of the Turtleoids" is one of those tapes that still goes for surprisingly high amounts on ebay and amazon.

Jester
10-24-2011, 07:18 PM
I agree...I have the episodes, the quality may not be the best...but are the Lionsgate DVDs that much better?

oldmanwinters
10-24-2011, 07:20 PM
I agree...I have the episodes, the quality may not be the best...but are the Lionsgate DVDs that much better?

Only for making screencaps!

Jester
10-24-2011, 07:22 PM
Only for making screencaps!
True...and to do that you'd have to possibly cause your computers drive to be permanently stuck in region 2.

Vegita-San
10-27-2011, 01:56 PM
Indeed, I still watch my "Turtles Awesome Easter" VHS from time to time. "Planet of the Turtleoids" is one of those tapes that still goes for surprisingly high amounts on ebay and amazon.

Was 'Time Machine' on awesome easter? I don't remember that. I'd like to think the transfers where better on the VHS, cause they where newer then. The DVD's are from transfers that are aged 15 years...

If it was not for spotting 'Planet' at a K-Mart, I would have no idea it ever existed. I only saw the tail end of it during a one and done run on WPIX new york at around 2:30.

gobo
10-27-2011, 02:07 PM
I wonder though if KSM is gonna present "Planet of the Turtleoids" as the hour-long feature with unique end credits backdrop it was in the US or present it as a two-ep adventure with a recap like it probably was elsewhere in the world.

Roseangelo
10-27-2011, 02:16 PM
True...and to do that you'd have to possibly cause your computers drive to be permanently stuck in region 2.

Why is it so hard for people to figure out how to get around region locks? This comes up every time there's an international release and people always whine. Google is your friend. :trazz:

gobo
10-27-2011, 02:49 PM
Why is it so hard for people to figure out how to get around region locks? This comes up every time there's an international release and people always whine. Google is your friend. :trazz:
Not trying to be argumentative, but I've never gotten any of those directions to work for me. :ohwell:

Roseangelo
10-27-2011, 03:05 PM
Not trying to be argumentative, but I've never gotten any of those directions to work for me. :ohwell:

Then you're not looking for the right thing. There are software programs that will take care of region coding for you and you don't have to do anything to your DVD drive.

gobo
10-27-2011, 03:17 PM
Then you're not looking for the right thing. There are software programs that will take care of region coding for you and you don't have to do anything to your DVD drive.
Oh. I thought you were talking about the codes for set-top players. I have all the other ways around it that I need. That's just the only concern I still had back when I was trying to play foreign DVDs on the bigger screen of my TV. :) I just lack the motor skills to push those buttons fast enough.

oldmanwinters
10-27-2011, 03:27 PM
Was 'Time Machine' on awesome easter? I don't remember that. I'd like to think the transfers where better on the VHS, cause they where newer then. The DVD's are from transfers that are aged 15 years...


Yup, it featured both the Hokum Hare episodes, with the intro theme song only proceeding the first episode.

hudemx
10-27-2011, 03:57 PM
I wonder though if KSM is gonna present "Planet of the Turtleoids" as the hour-long feature with unique end credits backdrop it was in the US or present it as a two-ep adventure with a recap like it probably was elsewhere in the world.

Well there is no Recap at the start of Part 2, it's starts right after the opening theme at the Technodrome shortly before Shredder finished building Chromedome - so no Recap ;)

We'll have to wait til December to find out for sure...

ToTheNines
11-05-2011, 10:29 PM
The VCR ate my copy of Planet of the Turtleoids the other day :( Snapped it in half...

oldmanwinters
11-05-2011, 10:49 PM
The VCR ate my copy of Planet of the Turtleoids the other day :( Snapped it in half...

Just the tape roll or the plastic too? If the latter, then I would like to see a picture of that beast!:lol:

gobo
11-06-2011, 12:14 AM
Me too. That's pretty unbelievable. Did you install the guillotine attachment wrong or something? O_o

ssjup81
11-06-2011, 05:39 AM
Planet of the Turtleoids was interesting and when rewatching it, it did seem vaguely familiar. Now, Once Upon a Time Machine I did remember originally seeing as a kid, and I remembered how I didn't like the episode as a kid. I hated how old the turtles looked for it! :lol: How lame, right? Taught them a good lesson and stuff, but back then, I wasn't seeing that. All I was seeing was, "Ew, the Turtles are old!"

ToTheNines
11-06-2011, 06:02 AM
Me too. That's pretty unbelievable. Did you install the guillotine attachment wrong or something? O_o

My VCR normally works great. It just made a very odd noise when I rewound the tape and when I carefully pulled it out the reel was sucked out. So I wound it up by hand and put it back in to make sure it was alright.... then it cut it :(

pannoni1
11-06-2011, 07:26 AM
One thing that bugs me about "Once Upon a Time Machine" is that April, somehow working for Channel 6 again (though it's debatable as it was rebuilt in Turtles Forever), is still using the same van from 1988 (notice how in season 1, Channel 6's vans are white instead of blue?) with the same logo when the young turtles are fighting the gang members in the future. And we're already 20 years removed from the then-present, and now just 25 years away from the "future". Some things are trending in that direction, such as less crime in the real NYC, more and more "tributes" to the TMNT, as well as some more serious testing for flying cars as well as the attempt for a greener planet makes the world cleaner. I still have the original VHS to this episode, and I'm surprised people haven't invested in a VHS-to-DVD transfer given we still have so-so quality copies to watch.

gobo
11-06-2011, 02:03 PM
My VCR normally works great. It just made a very odd noise when I rewound the tape and when I carefully pulled it out the reel was sucked out. So I wound it up by hand and put it back in to make sure it was alright.... then it cut it :(
Oh, alright. So, it's the tape that got cut and not the cassette. Gotcha. It happens. Main reason VCRs suck: too unpredictable.

ToTheNines
11-06-2011, 02:25 PM
Yeah. Makes me wish I woulda have mailed it to Lionsgate while it was still functioning well.

gobo
11-06-2011, 03:04 PM
Yeah. Makes me wish I woulda have mailed it to Lionsgate while it was still functioning well.
I offered 'em once. The pricks never even replied. :x

prophecy718
11-06-2011, 05:01 PM
Was 'Time Machine' on awesome easter? I don't remember that. I'd like to think the transfers where better on the VHS, cause they where newer then. The DVD's are from transfers that are aged 15 years...

If it was not for spotting 'Planet' at a K-Mart, I would have no idea it ever existed. I only saw the tail end of it during a one and done run on WPIX new york at around 2:30.

wow, i'm from nyc and i barely remember that lol

CyberCubed
11-07-2011, 09:17 AM
You can still buy the VHS on Amazon.

Anyway its really ridiculous. My only guess is if Lionsgate ever does re-release the DVDs, maybe they'll get it right the second time.

Of course people would have to double-dip, but if the show means that much to you...

Shawn_1978
11-16-2011, 06:05 PM
wow, i'm from nyc and i barely remember that lol

Yes, "The Turtles And The Hare" and "Once Upon A Time Machine" are on the "Turtles Awesome Easter VSH.

And "The Planet of the Turtleoids" is a two part episode on it's own tape. I have both of those VHS tapes.

I don't have to buy these episode when I can just burn them to DVD with my VHS/DVD recorder I have.

of course I'll have to see if it keeps from recording commercial tapes, like TMNT, so if not, I'll have to use my capture device to do it.

TheSkeletonMan939
11-20-2011, 07:55 PM
Why were these eps skipped in the first place?

Jester
11-20-2011, 10:14 PM
No one really knows...

...but you wear his symbol upon your brow!
Sorry, I couldn't resit.

CyberCubed
11-20-2011, 10:40 PM
They went with different episode numbering for Season 5.

Redeemer
11-20-2011, 11:37 PM
Why were these eps skipped in the first place?

jst to piss us off :lol:

hudemx
12-07-2011, 10:37 AM
So finally got Box 5:
Once upon a Time Machine is on there and also the Turtleloids Two Parter, but not in Two parts, but in the full 45 Minute Version - including the Special Credits ;)
Here are some Screenshots from Once Upon A Time Machine:
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/ii8o-1e-f457.jpg
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/ii8o-1a-6c83.jpg
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/ii8o-1b-d9d4.jpg
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/ii8o-1c-67c6.jpg
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/ii8o-1d-642e.jpg

hudemx
12-07-2011, 10:38 AM
And here are some from the Planet of the Turtleloids Special:
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/ii8o-1f-c0c7.jpg
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/ii8o-1g-2838.jpg
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/ii8o-1h-9a11.jpg
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/ii8o-1i-d82c.jpg
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/ii8o-1j-a684.jpg
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/ii8o-1k-b53b.jpg
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/ii8o-1l-9f61.jpg
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/ii8o-1m-72b3.jpg

gobo
12-07-2011, 11:24 AM
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/ii8o-1m-72b3.jpg
:teek: YAY!!!!!! :D ^_^ :thyper:

Luke795
12-09-2011, 12:14 AM
What is the episode order of the other 4 dvd sets?

hudemx
12-09-2011, 03:51 AM
What is the episode order of the other 4 dvd sets?

Box 1 has 1 - 25 which are ordere the same as the US Sets.
Box 2 has 25 more episode, reordered to seem more chronological - I looked up a thread here on the Forum about the reordering of the OT Episodes just made a few adjustments
Box 3 has 30 episode same as Box 2, but with the european Sideseason placed between episode 1 & 2 of Season 4 and reordered to seem more chronological country-wise - even though there is a flaw i didn't see when rearanging them (had 3 days to do so sry)
Box 4 - 30 more episodes from season 4, slightly reordered so that the Technodrome Situation is right (first half the Dromes just stranded in Dimension X, second half the Volcano bursts and it's stuck on the Meteoroid too)

pferreira
12-15-2011, 08:57 AM
I'd like to ask a question about the KSM sets. There have been some complaints that the R1 sets haven't been remastered in good quality and a lot of episodes apparently don't look any better than VHS. Now I'm assuming the UK R2 release of Season 1 and 2 from 2009 is a port of the KSM release 'Box 1'. But having watched the UK set the episodes seem to have been pretty well remastered. The episodes are so sharp you can actually see the white animation lines round the characters. So I'm wondering for the KSM sets did the company remaster the episodes themselves?

hudemx
12-15-2011, 12:55 PM
Pretty hard to tell, because i mostly watch the German episodes, but as far as I know LG UK and KSM use the Same Masters

And btw. the UK DVD Set isn't a port of the German one, the UK Set only features 18 Episodes, the german 25 ;)

pferreira
12-16-2011, 08:55 AM
Yeah I know the Season 3 episodes from the KSM boxset aren't included in the UK set but I was under the impression the UK episodes were remastered by KSM as well as both were released at the same time. So what I'm wondering is whether KSM's episodes were remastered by the company and not taken from DVD US Lionsgate mastering. I'm tempted to ask for screen captures comparing quality between the KSM boxsets and the US Lionsgate boxsets.

Powder
12-16-2011, 09:13 AM
Is it me or is the quality of those episodes especially sharp? I'm judging solely on those caps, but still, they look great.

hudemx
12-16-2011, 11:01 AM
I know that the german episode were remastered by another german Company called KTV Medienproduktion by the Order of KSM. Maybe they also remastered the US Episode?

Here are some caps from the very first episode:
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/ii8o-1o-093f.jpg
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/ii8o-1p-072b.jpg
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/ii8o-1q-7f39.jpg
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/ii8o-1r-44f6.jpg
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/ii8o-1s-03af.jpg

pferreira
12-22-2011, 01:02 PM
I was just watching my UK set of Season 1 and noticed a fair bit of dirt on the masters but it still looks pretty good. Season 2 however is almost flawless in terms of DVD quality depending on the actual studio animation. Perhaps it has to do with disc compression?

oldmanwinters
12-22-2011, 01:20 PM
Is it me or is the quality of those episodes especially sharp? I'm judging solely on those caps, but still, they look great.

I think the caps from Planet of the Turtleoids both look amazing! But maybe that's because I've only seen those episodes on blurry, gritty Youtube quality files. :tlol:

gobo
12-22-2011, 01:30 PM
I sure wish I could import just the discs that have the skipped eps. :tgrumble:
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/ii8o-1f-c0c7.jpg
I think it's awesome that they copied the typo. :P
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/ii8o-1l-9f61.jpg
What's this one about? :tconfuse:

MikeandRaph87
12-22-2011, 02:02 PM
Has Lionsgate ever said why Once Upon A Time Machine and Planet of The Turtiods parts 1 and 2 were skipped? Oversight is the best guess on my part like how Plan Six From Outer Space and Turtles And The Hare got duplicated. Thanks in advance for the insight.

gobo
12-22-2011, 02:25 PM
On the record, they never even acknowledged the mistake. So, best guess is that they switched ep guides for deciding what order to put them in, and that caused the screw-up.
Turtles And The Hare got duplicated.
No; only PLAN SIX, thankfully.

Metropoliskid41
12-22-2011, 02:26 PM
*wishes I had the tapes or knew someone who did so I could see them* :trazz:

MikeandRaph87
12-22-2011, 02:39 PM
*wishes I had the tapes or knew someone who did so I could see them* :trazz:

Until Lionsgate gives them to us on DVD both Once Upon A Time Machine and both parts of Planet of The Turtleoids are still available on youtube. So while we cannot own them in Region 1 yet we can at least view them online with no problems.:tcool:

Metropoliskid41
12-22-2011, 02:47 PM
Awesome thanks for the heads up! I just assumed they couldn't be up to do copyright stuff, thanks I'll have to check those out over the holidays

hudemx
12-22-2011, 03:45 PM
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/ii8o-1l-9f61.jpg
What's this one about? :tconfuse:
That picture apears right before the Credits role, but that's only present in this Specials Episode...

Vegita-San
12-23-2011, 12:49 PM
well, i took a risk and ordered from the german amazon... we'll see what happens ;)

gobo
12-23-2011, 01:39 PM
That picture apears right before the Credits role, but that's only present in this Specials Episode...
Weird. I thought Group W had nothing to do with the CBS episodes. :-?well, i took a risk and ordered from the german amazon... we'll see what happens ;)
How many Euros was the total? I might end up doing the same eventually.

Vegita-San
12-23-2011, 05:33 PM
Not sure, since I don't read german, but I think my order shipped :).

Wasn't sure on the price... I used the company card rather than mine..will pay 'em back when it gets here: ).

Vegita-San
12-29-2011, 12:55 PM
Status: In transit
Transportation Service: DHLGA
Package number: 1031060003407803107927
Current status: Croydon
Shipment has left the distribution center. - 29 December 2011 18:02:23

If I translated this right through google, apparently my order just shipped today, which doesn't sound right considering it was placed about a week ago....

I can't get the tracking number to work for the life of me.... i seriously doubt it'll get here today, most likely it'll take another week + if it just left...

hudemx
12-29-2011, 04:15 PM
Post the original german message here (maybe a screenshot?) I'll help you in translating it ;)

Vegita-San
12-29-2011, 08:56 PM
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404746_10150554079050211_530260210_11290055_226418 797_n.jpg

here ya go...hopefully no account info is there :)

Vegita-San
12-29-2011, 11:04 PM
http://www.amazon.de/Mein-Vater-ist-ein-Au%C3%9Ferirdischer/dp/B005LURIEU/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1325221410&sr=1-1

In other news, why does all the cool stuff seem to come out in Germany? :)

hudemx
12-30-2011, 04:40 AM
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404746_10150554079050211_530260210_11290055_226418 797_n.jpg

here ya go...hopefully no account info is there :)

Well google translated right... damn you Google:x

As far as I heard from a friend shipping to countries outside Germany take a bit longer, shipping to the US even up to 2 weeks instead of one day ^^'

Just wait it should arrive on jan. 14th
http://www.amazon.de/Mein-Vater-ist-ein-Au%C3%9Ferirdischer/dp/B005LURIEU/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1325221410&sr=1-1

In other news, why does all the cool stuff seem to come out in Germany? :)
Sadly not the complete series will be released because the Company has issues with the license to some Songs ... sadly also the themesong will be replaced :cry:

Vegita-San
01-05-2012, 02:13 PM
Well, a week later, and so far no delivery :)..

Awful long wait for 2 missing episodes :).. Too bad I can't track it

hudemx
01-06-2012, 05:49 PM
Well, a week later, and so far no delivery :)..

Awful long wait for 2 missing episodes :).. Too bad I can't track it

As said you should receive it on January 14th, as Amazon (on the Screenshot) wrote ;)

gobo
01-06-2012, 06:08 PM
As said you should receive it on January 14th, as Amazon (on the Screenshot) wrote ;)
Yeah, well... Another week is still a long time to wait when you consider that we should have gotten them years ago. :P

Vegita-San
01-07-2012, 12:29 PM
Whoops...missed that part.. my bad :)

Vegita-San
01-09-2012, 11:43 AM
Guess what came in today :)...

Boy, it seems fitting hearing Shredder and Krang with a German accent somehow ;o)...but the actress for april breathes no real life into the character from what little i've heard so far. Like she's reading it from gun point ;o)...

As for the English Audio mix, it sounds far more balanced than the VHS tape. On the VHS tape, the audio for the sound effects overlaps everything else and is ten times louder than the voices. Here, things seem a bit better mixed...It's also nice that they included the part of the third act break that got cut out somehow on the VHS tape... so that's all new dialogue to me :).

I have not checked out Turtles and a Time machine.. Not sure what disc it's on. But it's bound to sound better than my 25 year old mono VHS tape.....

Just shouldn't have had to spend about $60's to get something that should have been done right the first time in the states......now watch my luck...it'll be on the Season 10 DVD...