View Full Version : The accuracy of portraying New York in the many versions
pannoni1
10-25-2011, 07:08 AM
I watched an interview about the show "The Real Ghostbusters" about how the cast felt about the accuracy of how NYC, Manhattan in particular was portrayed. One member laughed about how there was a "14th avenue" in Manhattan, though it had some decent moments.
Now for the OT in particular, there were quite a few references that seemed out of place in the show. The United World Building instead of the United Nations. The Global Trade Towers instead of the World Trade Center (correct in Enter: The Fly, however). In one episode, I recall hearing "I-5" even! I've also heard stuff like "5th and Main", and there is no main street in Manhattan! On the episode Turtles, Turtles, Everywhere when April goes to the beach, you can see a little mountain, and they aren't found on the east coast until Maine!
Think of some other geographical references that got screwed up here.
Icebot
10-25-2011, 04:18 PM
I remember in season 10, Dregg called the League of Nations to surrender to him but it should have been called the United Nations. It was in the 90's.
ssjup81
10-25-2011, 09:16 PM
Didn't they make reference to the East River before and how disgusting it was that even they wouldn't swim in it?
Oh, in that Dark Turtle ep, they mentioned "a disturbance in the midtown area" (or something along the lines of that) and we know that Manhattan has one.
That aside, I can't think of anything that's been screwed up, 'cept for what was mention "Global Trade Center" and such, and that was probably changed/said for copywrite reasons.
Dirty Blond
10-25-2011, 09:17 PM
Also, New York has never had a red sky, to my knowledge.
I remember in the 4Kids show, one of the first episodes, there being a mention of the corner of "Eastman and Laird." (That's not really a screw-up, I acknowledge.)
I don't think New York has ever been accurately portrayed. Even on the quintessential New York show, Seinfeld, the exterior of Jerry's apartment was actually a building in downtown Los Angeles.
ABrown
10-26-2011, 09:11 AM
The accuracy of how New York is portrayed has very little to no importance to me. It's more about the quality of the show: does it have a good vocal cast, good animation, (and probably most important) are the stories interesting.
LotusBlossom
10-26-2011, 06:59 PM
It's also much cleaner than the real NYC ...
Plus the derelicts are far less menacing.
Dirty Blond
10-26-2011, 08:37 PM
Sometimes I wonder how the show would be different if it took place in Los Angeles. I guess they probably wouldn't eat as much pizza.
ssjup81
10-26-2011, 08:53 PM
It's also much cleaner than the real NYC ...:tlol: Yes it is! I mean, seriously, I doubt there are any sewers in the world that's as clean as the sewers near the Turtles' lair to the point where someone would voluntarily make their homes there (Hamato for the OT series). You rarely see rats or spiders or anything else that'd be scary down there. The streets are usually clean too. Seems the only consistent thing is the fact that they made cracks over the water being dirty (OT series).
cryan
10-30-2011, 11:15 AM
Not related to New York but in the 2nd episode that Leatherhead pop up in had the turtle travel to the Okefenokee swamp in Florida.Last I check the Okefenokee swamp is in Georgia.Now if they went to the Everglades that would have been more accaurate.Just an observation.
pannoni1
10-30-2011, 03:53 PM
In the episode "What's Michelangelo is Good For," April refers to the zoo as the "Center Park Zoo" as opposed to Central. Also, there is no island in the middle of the lake like in the actual Central Park, plus it doesn't really show any buildings around the whole park; with only trees as far as the eye can see. Plus, the zoo's layout definitely looks so much different compared to the one shown on "Enter The Shredder", which was identified by April in that episode as the Central Park Zoo! The writers were different in each episode, with David Wise having the correct answer.
pannoni1
11-05-2011, 06:29 PM
An interesting fact/fiction twist comes in the episode "Pirate Radio", where the radio station "WOOF" in real life is in Dothan, Alabama.
I've also seen a layout shot where there are more skyscrapers in one episode visible where Jersey City, New Jersey stands than lower Manhattan as, when in reality the opposite is true .
pannoni1
11-08-2011, 07:46 AM
Another thing to point out is that in an interview by Michael Reaves posted on here is that they were later "told not to refer to it by name; just to make it a generic city, don't use recognizable landmarks, etc", and to make it more global in terms of setting. Some of the layouts could be part of a Japanese city when you think about it since that's where lots of the layouts were drawn. I feel that only Seasons 1 and 2 are proper New York settings; Season 3 started to introduce those silly fake locations that started to make it more of "city X". I think being more generic allowed for more freedom in plots/settings, unlike 4kids, which is a more accurate portrayal. The live action series of course are pretty spot-on.
TheSkeletonMan939
11-08-2011, 07:37 PM
If I were involved in some TMNT series, I'd try to add little similarities in the layout and buildings of the city.
Fugitoid Jones
11-09-2011, 05:21 AM
On the episode Turtles, Turtles, Everywhere when April goes to the beach, you can see a little mountain, and they aren't found on the east coast until Maine!
As someone who lives in the Green Mountain state of VT, I'm afraid I have to disagree.
pannoni1
11-09-2011, 06:40 AM
As someone who lives in the Green Mountain state of VT, I'm afraid I have to disagree.
But Vermont doesn't touch the coast! Maybe I should have said "along the east coast" instead. But it supports the "generic city" argument that I posted above which was squarely evident by Season 3. And there are certainly many more cartoons which are supposedly set in a real life city, but looks very different as portrayed compared to reality. At least the Simpsons did a good job with Springfield, as that's a common name among US cities/towns and represents middle America quite well.
CyberCubed
11-09-2011, 10:24 AM
You guys really thought the OT had to be accurate, with what a silly series it was?
We all knew they lived in New York, given the ton of landmarks and direct references. And everytime they leave NY it is mentioned, like when they went to Florida, or Europe, or to Washington, etc.
I remember in the Muckman ep of Season 5 when Don uses his portal, Raphael says, "Let's just hope we don't wind up in New Jersey."
ToTheNines
11-09-2011, 06:03 PM
We all knew they lived in New York, given the ton of landmarks and direct references. And everytime they leave NY it is mentioned, like when they went to Florida, or Europe, or to Washington, etc.
When the hell did they go to Washington?
CyberCubed
11-09-2011, 07:36 PM
When the hell did they go to Washington?
Season 3 we see Mt. Rushmore.
BoggleKng
11-10-2011, 09:54 AM
Season 3 we see Mt. Rushmore.
Rushmore is in South Dakota.
ToTheNines
11-10-2011, 03:33 PM
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Icebot
11-22-2011, 05:01 PM
I just watched The Power Of Three from Season 10 and realized when April was being carjacked by Shredder and Krang, she was calling the turtles for help. She told them she's at Hudson and 15th. I just looked for it on a map and I couldn't find it.
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