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Guitar_Raph
11-03-2011, 08:39 PM
We've all seen this story on the news. Back in 2004, a judge beats his 16 year old daughter for lying & uploading a computer game. Here's the full video.

WARNING; Explicit Language

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She finally turns this in 7 years later. Guess she broke a mirror that day (LOL).

That kind of beating ranks up there with...

1). Joe Jackson beating his kids.

2). Zac Efron getting slapped 9 times on 17 Again

3). Moe beating up Curly!

Samhain
11-03-2011, 08:47 PM
That wasn't a ''spank''. Being a parent, this video makes my blood boil. This is abuse and it's not right. That is no way to discipline a child.

Jester
11-03-2011, 08:58 PM
She finally turns this in 7 years later. Guess she broke a mirror that day (LOL). .

That kind of beating ranks up there with...

1). Joe Jackson beating his kids.

2). Zac Efron getting slapped 9 times on 17 Again

3). Moe beating up Curly!
Yeah...not your best work. Not the best time to make jokes.

Spitfire
11-03-2011, 09:48 PM
One of the most disturbing things I've ever seen. There's a news report on it I watched that just adds to it. The father even now is still convinced that what he did was okay. Smart kid though. Surprised she's not a tad more vindictive. She just said she wants him to get help.

AquaParade
11-03-2011, 09:48 PM
The only solace in watching this, is with knowing that every terrible second of this I see, the rest of the world see's too.

These parents are forever shamed.


I mean, this dude obviously has issues, right? He must have been carrying a "chip" on his shoulder for years! It's terrible to see it taken out on his child.

ToTheNines
11-03-2011, 10:46 PM
I'm of the belief that spanking is a proper punishment, but I don't care what your kid did... going overboard like that is despicable. Especially considering she was 16.

What makes it even worse is the fact that he was whipping her for having "pirated media" on their computer. Why even get mad about that?

Spitfire
11-03-2011, 10:49 PM
He kept going off about how she stole. The really stupid part is the music she was stealing was unavailable in the US at the time and there was no other way for her to get it. Hearing him go off on the caveman "Damn Computers! Nothing but trouble them things! Rawr technology is scary and bad!" rant was the only mildly amusing part. His wife is a joke too. Her defense was she was brainwashed. She didn't seem too remorseful in the interview she seemed confident blaming it all on the guy and not owning up to the fact that she did it on her own free will. She never had to partake the guy went nuts when she took the belt from him. He even went and got another one just so he could hit her too.

Candy Kappa
11-04-2011, 05:37 AM
Holy ****! Such monsters.

In Norway he'd be jailed for child abuse or pay her daughter huge fines

Jester
11-04-2011, 05:45 AM
Holy ****! Such monsters.

In Norway he'd be jailed for child abuse or pay her daughter huge fines
Indeed, there's a fine line between discipline and child abuse....and this whack-bag crossed it.

Storm Eagle
11-04-2011, 06:27 AM
Holy ****! Such monsters.

In Norway he'd be jailed for child abuse or pay her daughter huge fines
I'm not going to bother to look at that video, but if he really did it so badly, then it should be illegal anywhere. Not just Norway.

I'm also aware that in Sweden, they don't play around when it comes to severe corporal punishment either.

BubblyShell22
11-04-2011, 08:21 AM
Wow. I'm all for spanking kids if they do something wrong, but this steps over the line. You don't just beat your kid like that. This guy should be sent to jail.

And GR, it's not funny to compare this heinous assault to Moe slapping Curly or an actor getting slapped in a fictional movie. That's just low.

Guitar_Raph
11-04-2011, 11:58 AM
Yeah...not your best work. Not the best time to make jokes.


I can just imagine one of the late night talk show hosts mentioning that news & for the punch line, "Least she didn't tell her parents, Smile, you're on Candid Camera!"

So I have a little Conan O'Brian in me. Throw tomatoes @ me.

Hero
11-04-2011, 12:14 PM
That's evil...

How can somebody with issues like this still be in a high-profile position? I am guessing he won't be much longer..

===HERO

Roseangelo
11-04-2011, 12:40 PM
I can just imagine one iof the late night talk show hosts mentioning that news & for the punch line, "Least she didn't tell her parents, Smile, you're on Candid Camera!"

So I have a little Conan O'Brian in me. Throw tomatoes @ me.


To compare yourself to Conan O'Brien is an insult to Conan. Because he's actually funny. There is absolutely nothing about this story that should be "joked" about. The first post of this thread disgusts me, and I'm not referring to the video (which is an evil in and of itself).

愛
11-04-2011, 02:24 PM
Cookie-cutter response, this is terrible, etc.

AquaParade
11-04-2011, 03:02 PM
To me, the thing that is most sad about this, is the fact that once your parents are shamed like that, there's no way to ever see them as dependable parents again. After they royally screw up like that, and the whole world chimes in on it, it'd just be hard to respect them, I imagine.

Samhain
11-04-2011, 03:51 PM
I can just imagine one iof the late night talk show hosts mentioning that news & for the punch line, "Least she didn't tell her parents, Smile, you're on Candid Camera!"

So I have a little Conan O'Brian in me. Throw tomatoes @ me.


You're an idiot.

BubblyShell22
11-04-2011, 04:47 PM
I second that, Sam.

愛
11-04-2011, 05:26 PM
I can just imagine one iof the late night talk show hosts mentioning that news & for the punch line, "Least she didn't tell her parents, Smile, you're on Candid Camera!"

So I have a little Conan O'Brian in me. Throw tomatoes @ me.


You crack me up, Guitar_Raph. The way you talk is just so nuts.

Redeemer
11-04-2011, 08:19 PM
Wait so this guy is still a judge after that clear evidence of child abuse?????? wtf?????

Guitar_Raph
11-04-2011, 11:33 PM
(The Technodrome throws tomatoes @ me)

BOO!

Sorry for all the punch lines & comparisons. I realized it's a shocking video & I do apologize for being an idiot.

Storm Eagle
11-05-2011, 12:52 AM
That wasn't a ''spank''. Being a parent, this video makes my blood boil. This is abuse and it's not right. That is no way to discipline a child.

You posted before the person I responded to, but I'm only now reading all the posts in this thread because this issue was discussed at my job. So after that, I thought I'd come back here to read everything, and your post stood out to me because you said you're a parent. A co-worker who's also a parent, is actually on the side of the judge. That's all because, to her, the 16 year-old being the daughter of a judge, ought to know better.

I still don't wish to see the video, but I think I'll still just take everybody's word for it that the whole thing must have been brutal. I understand the co-worker's point of view even though I'm not sure I'd agree with it. I'm not against corporal punishment (nor am I for it), but there is a right and wrong way to do it, and it should at least "fit the crime". For what it's worth, the aforementioned co-worker is the same person who thinks it's acceptable to discipline kids by putting them in the trunk of a car, which is something that someone else has done before, and had made the news.

Samhain
11-05-2011, 01:02 AM
A co-worker who's also a parent, is actually on the side of the judge. That's all because, to her, the 16 year-old being the daughter of a judge, ought to know better.

For what it's worth, the aforementioned co-worker is the same person who thinks it's acceptable to discipline kids by putting them in the trunk of a car, which is something that someone else has done before, and had made the news.

Well then...;)

Leonardo Mystic
11-05-2011, 11:41 PM
o_O ... I hope that co-worker of yours, Storm Eagle, never has kids or comes in contact with kids. That is just highly disturbing.

To the topic at hand, I am not a parent, but I am vehemently against child abuse. I have not seen the video, but I don't think I really need to to know it is just like all the other child abuse cases out there. To make matters worse, the judge will not be facing charges because the statue of limitations expired after five years, which is just utter bullsh*t.

Ironically, he handles abuse cases. I don't think I'd want that judge handling such cases after this.

Storm Eagle
11-06-2011, 01:14 AM
o_O ... I hope that co-worker of yours, Storm Eagle, never has kids or comes in contact with kids. That is just highly disturbing.


Hate to break it to you, but she does. What's even sadder is that other people in my office agreed with her. Don't mind me though. My co-workers tend to be kooks.

Koschei
11-06-2011, 09:45 AM
Seriously couldn't watch it.
I was first expecting something not too crazy and thought your comments were exaggerated. But I was wrong.
This is disgusting.
-The girl is 16 years old, that's too mature of an age to "spank" a girl.
-Thats not a spanking, that's a whoopin'. And you don't give whoopin's for downloading a game. Even if it was against the rules.
-The mother joins in on the beating? Clearly this is an unstable household and neither parents are in a state of mind to be parenting.
-This guy is a Judge? Seriously?

Storm Eagle
11-06-2011, 07:57 PM
Seriously couldn't watch it.
I was first expecting something not too crazy and thought your comments were exaggerated. But I was wrong.
This is disgusting.
-The girl is 16 years old, that's too mature of an age to "spank" a girl.
-That's not a spanking, that's a whoopin'. And you don't give whoopins for downloading a game. Even if it was against the rules.
-The mother joins in on the beating? Clearly this is an unstable household and neither parents are in a state of mind to be parenting.
-This guy is a Judge? Seriously?

Did anybody ever tell you that you rock?

Hero
02-03-2012, 07:05 PM
Has anything else come up regarding this?

===HERO

Jelly Bean
02-17-2012, 10:26 AM
watching that clip made me really uncomfertable. My parents are as conservative as they come but even they never laid a hand on us growing up, I think it is because both my parents "got lickin's" while growing up and didn't want to do that to us. I showed my dad this clip and he said that he used to get beltings as bad as this when he was growing up right up until he moved out of my grandparents house. I mean dear God this girl is sixteen!

I don't get why conservative people have so much love for beatings and spankings especially for kids that have already hit puberty. One time at a bible study meeting one woman asked our pastor if she should stop spanking her twelve year old because the last time she did that he got "excited." The pastor said that he didn't see any reason to stop and suggested to just let the father do it instead because it will curb that reaction to have a man do it.

My thought was--MY GOD! :o why would you even use that kind of disipline on a twelve year old? If they are old enough to have that kind of reaction than they're obviously too old to get that type of disipline. I was so grossed out.

Redeemer
02-17-2012, 11:13 AM
I don't get why conservative people have so much love for beatings and spankings especially for kids that have already hit puberty.

Well its this new concept called parenting. Spanking is jst being a parent.

Hitting with a belt is jst abuse.

and when they puberty its time for grounding

I used to hit with a spatula when I was younger right on the back of my thighs :lol:

Jelly Bean
02-17-2012, 12:11 PM
Well its this new concept called parenting. l:

wow! Could your head be any more up your ass with this comment?

Storm Eagle
02-17-2012, 03:17 PM
Wow! Could your head be any more up your ass with this comment?

Don't be so hard on him. It's just a way for parents to teach their kids right from wrong, and unfortunately it tends to work more often than not. That's why most parents prefer that type of discipline, although they don't necessarily like having to do it. However, I don't think using objects like belts and spatulas is necessarily abuse, but I personally think it's just unnecessary, and kind of silly. Even so, some people who have kids have told me they'd rather use a belt than their own hand, because they think they could do more damage with their hands. Possibly break bones. I still don't like the idea of using a belt on my kids though (if I had any). The hand might be best, but I wouldn't recommend going for the head or the face. One of my co-workers said she doesn't believe in smacking kids in the head, as it can do things to the brain if done too hard, or if done enough times. I remember one guy talking about getting a concussion because his mother hit him in the head.

One thing though. I'm a bit disturbed at how Redeemer laughs about having had a spatula taken to him.

Barkworm
02-18-2012, 02:08 AM
I'm happy that in Germany even spanking is illegal. I'm from a relatively conservative Christian family, my brother and I were spanked as kids and I do not believe that we've suffered any emotional traumata from it. Nevertheless it shouldn't be part of parenting. There are many amazing parents today who know how to work out things with their kids without ever resorting to violence.

Leo656
02-18-2012, 03:12 AM
Y'know, I'm not gonna say that's not terrible, and I'm not gonna say any one person has had it better or worse than another person, that would belittle the above clip and I genuinely don't want to do that...

However, I WILL say that if I, or pretty much anyone I know over 30, had a camera phone and YouTube when we were kids, I (and/or they) would be millionaires now, because I very vividly remember getting way more "discipline" for way less. I guess that's why when I saw that clip I'm like "Huh, that's kind of overkill," but genuinely wasn't shocked by it. :ohwell:

Barkworm
02-18-2012, 04:09 AM
Leo, from what I remember you telling us about your parents over the years, you have my respect for putting up with them for so long. Instead of, you know, getting them locked up forever.

Leo656
02-18-2012, 04:55 AM
Here's the thing though: Compared to what I know other people went through, both people I knew personally and people I to this day read about in the news, I had it light. WAY light. My whole life I never once considered the possibility that I'd been "abused", not until I was almost an adult and I'd met people from different areas who couldn't conceieve kids could be hit, at all, for anything. I still don't use the term to describe myself, although I definitely grew up in a house with a lot of anger and people who expressed it verbally and physically. To me, and my parents, to theirs, to my friends and their parents, and on and on, that kinda sh*t was seriously "Just how kids were raised" up until, honestly, about 1992.

Getting smart with your parents or refusing to do as told was good for a slap in the face, usually. Regular spankings could be for pretty much anything, but for that reason most kids' parents I knew considered it "useless" unless they used a belt or a wooden spoon or something, to show they really "meant business". My best friend's dad kept a collection of thick leather belts hanging on his kitchen wall, always within arms' reach in case any of his three kids - or their friends - ever acted up or cursed out loud. Yeah, remember back in the day, when as long as you were anybody's parent you could hit other people's kids, too? Wasn't that long ago. My mom liked wooden cooking spoons, but eventually she broke 'em all over my back and was too cheap to buy more and by then I was kinda too big to be getting hit anymore. :lol:

With my Dad it carried into adulthood since we really, really didn't get along but had to live together, but by then it wasn't parent-on-child abuse as much as it was two grown-ups actually fighting. But just to drive it home, the last time we had one of those fights, we end up going to court over it, and what does the prosecutor say when I answered his question ("Why did you hit your father?") with an honest answer ("He swung at me with a hammer")? Essentially he tells me "When I was a kid you'd be dead, your Dad could beat you to death with that f*cking hammer and it would mean you did something wrong, how dare you hit your father?" To clarify, the whole thing was BS and neither of us was hurt at all but the fact that someone who is in charge of law enforcement so openly - and loudly - told me that as far as he was concerned I should be dead or in jail for daring to defend myself... and that the judge mostly agreed and only cut the fine down when my Dad of all people said it was bullsh*t... ehh, it bugged me really bad. To this day I can't look at anyone with kids without wondering what might be going on behind closed doors. You can't always tell; some people who are "abused" are actually genuinely happy and well-treated most of the time.

Because that's the thing, me and all the kids (guys at least) I knew might have grown up that way, but we weren't unhappy. Well, I was for a lot of sort of connected reasons but in general, we were all pretty normal and grew up surprisingly well-adjusted. My friend whose dad kept the belts on the wall? His dad recently passed away, and at the funeral we all honestly could not stop laughing at the absurdity of how quick a whippin' could come back then, along with realizations of how often we "probably" had it coming. And somehow, we who grew up that way are almost all in way less-trouble as adults than our friends who had it "Easy", and I'm not the only one who notices.

So I honestly can never decide, is it "abuse" if growing up that way really is the surest way to ensure kids grow up honest, respectful, etc.? Because even though I wouldn't pass my sh*t off to anyone, I look at kids nowadays and I'm frankly shocked at how they act. At wrestling shows I work at, I have 7-year old kids calling me and/or my friends/coworkers "******s", their parents sitting right next to them encouraging them. So I think of kids getting hit, and I ask, "Is this really better?" Kids growing up rude, spoiled, and entitled? I grew up knowing I likely wasn't gonna get my way and if I pushed my luck I'd be screwed. It DOES kinda prepare you better for the real world, I have to say. On the other hand, it teaches them that it's the best way to get your point across, which is bad. But it IS very effective, which is good, mostly...

You'd think I'd be clearly on one side or the other. Maybe it's because as long as my parents were sober we got along great, I'unno. I didn't even realize WHY I was in therapy until way later, isn't that odd? To me, it was just "normal life". I think I turned out ok, so they'd both tell me they did their job and I should be glad for all the times I "should've" got it but didn't. :lol:

And since nobody else said it yet: I think the Christian Bale clip was way funnier than the video above. Way.

BubblyShell22
02-18-2012, 08:40 AM
I got spanked as a child, and I turned out fine. I don't see spanking as abuse when you're younger. I used to get smacked in the face sometimes, too, but that was how I was raised. Back then, you could do that sort of thing. I probably wouldn't do that to my kids if I had any, but I'd definitely spank them. To me, kids need a spanking now and then. In this case, I don't think it's a good idea that he spanked her. He should've just taken the computer away.

Heck, there's controversy over a Facebook video where a dad shoots his daughter's laptop, and Nancy Snyderman on the Today show said it was abuse and that CPS should've bee called. When I think of what that dad could've done to his daughter, I think shooting a laptop that he bought isn't as bad as hitting her or even shooting her.

Guitar_Raph
02-18-2012, 09:58 PM
Making some statements what another person said...

That's not a spanking, that's a whoopin'. And you don't give whoopin's for downloading a game. Even if it was against the rules.

That happened to me in Mobile, Alabama. I got a beating because I was caught using a motel elevator when the ice machine on our floor was out of order. How do I remember? Because the next day, Gerald Ford became our 38th President!

The Stryker
02-18-2012, 10:42 PM
I love you Guitar Raph. I mean it.

Sage Ninja
02-19-2012, 10:24 AM
One time at a bible study meeting one woman asked our pastor if she should stop spanking her twelve year old because the last time she did that he got "excited." The pastor said that he didn't see any reason to stop and suggested to just let the father do it instead because it will curb that reaction to have a man do it.

My thought was--MY GOD! why would you even use that kind of disipline on a twelve year old? If they are old enough to have that kind of reaction than they're obviously too old to get that type of disipline. I was so grossed out.

what the hell kind of bible study were you at where a mother actually brought up in front of people about her preteen son having erections when she spanked him? Putting aside why she would even ask her pastor that, why would she do it so openly? Isn't that something you ask advice on in private? :-?

I'm pretty relgious and do beleive in spanking as a form of disipline for children (emphasis on children, not preteens or teenagers) but I have always found some relgious people's views on spankings and beating to be hypocritical and contradictive.

I like how in the clip the judge father said he "never got his lickin' in on her" when he had already stuck the girl several times with the belt on her legs and arms and side before the mother came in. What? It doesn't count unless it is on the ass? If you have to lay into a teenager with belt over a video game download, obviously your method of disipline isn't working. The beltings didn't create a grateful duaghter if she exposed your methods to the media, pretty sure if your adult child is exposing you too ridicule, you kind of dropped the ball paretning wise some where. Unless this makes the guy think that he didn't belt her enough after this incident.

Cure
02-19-2012, 10:38 AM
My mom made me kneel on dry rice for hours. Sh*t hurt.

Samhain
02-19-2012, 02:02 PM
My mom made me kneel on dry rice for hours. Sh*t hurt.

Ouch. It was hot sauce on the tongue for me.

Storm Eagle
02-19-2012, 10:42 PM
what the hell kind of bible study were you at where a mother actually brought up in front of people about her preteen son having erections when she spanked him? Putting aside why she would even ask her pastor that, why would she do it so openly? Isn't that something you ask advice on in private? :-?



Oh, so that's what she meant when he got "excited".

My mom made me kneel on dry rice for hours. Sh*t hurt.
It would. That's a more effective way to do a time-out, but I hope you were just exaggerating when you said "for hours".

Jester
02-19-2012, 10:55 PM
Ouch. It was hot sauce on the tongue for me.
When my mom put soap in my sister's mouth (more often than not) or mine she used liquid soap, and not the bar stuff.

The last spanking I remember getting made my mother cry harder than my sister and I.

Storm Eagle
02-19-2012, 11:33 PM
When my mom put soap in my sister's mouth (more often than not) or mine she used liquid soap, and not the bar stuff.



Someone I knew told me about getting her mouth washed out with soap for saying "penis". I didn't think to ask why she was saying it though.

BubblyShell22
02-20-2012, 07:38 AM
Yeah, I used to get that, too with the soap. Not very often, but sometimes, it would happen.

Candy Kappa
02-20-2012, 01:43 PM
holy c*** people.


I've never gotten as much as a slap on my hand... I must have been an angel

BubblyShell22
02-20-2012, 01:51 PM
Well, I repeat, it didn't happen often, but it happened. Back in those days, you could spank kids and get away with it. Now, you can't, which is why kids are behaving the way that they are. That doesn't excuse what this guy did though because his daughter was too old to get spanked. But for younger kids, they often need a good smack on the behind to keep them in line.

Edit: Fixed my error.

KROW
02-20-2012, 07:50 PM
Well, I repeat, it didn't happen often, but it often happened.

I like you, Bubbly, I really do, but this just doesn't make sense. :teek:

Cure
02-20-2012, 08:38 PM
It would. That's a more effective way to do a time-out, but I hope you were just exaggerating when you said "for hours".

I never really timed it, honestly, but it sure as hell felt that long.

Peanut
02-20-2012, 08:44 PM
Well, I repeat, it didn't happen often, but it often happened. Back in those days, you could spank kids and get away with it. Now, you can't, which is why kids are behaving the way that they are. That doesn't excuse what this guy did though because his daughter was too old to get spanked. But for younger kids, they often need a good smack on the behind to keep them in line.

I don't think it has as much to do with spanking becoming a "no-no" than with the fact that a lot of kids don't get reprimanded at this point. I don't think you need to hit a kid to make them behave, but when you see kids running around doing whatever the f*ck they want, it's very clear that the parents don't enforce any rules in any way. You don't need to smack a child to punish them.

BubblyShell22
02-21-2012, 07:21 AM
I like you, Bubbly, I really do, but this just doesn't make sense. :teek:

Oops. I hate typos. I meant to say, "Well, it didn't happen often, but it happened." I guess I just didn't catch that. My bad. I'll go fix that right away.

I don't think it has as much to do with spanking becoming a "no-no" than with the fact that a lot of kids don't get reprimanded at this point. I don't think you need to hit a kid to make them behave, but when you see kids running around doing whatever the f*ck they want, it's very clear that the parents don't enforce any rules in any way. You don't need to smack a child to punish them.

That's very true, Peanut. I'm not saying you have to spank a kid to get them to behave, but I do think it would be a good thing to do at certain times if nothing else works. Trust me, we knew that if we misbehaved, we were going to get spanked. Dad only had to take us out of church once for us to get the message to behave. We never did it again.

Guitar_Raph
02-21-2012, 08:07 AM
Someone I knew told me about getting her mouth washed out with soap for saying "penis". I didn't think to ask why she was saying it though.

OMG, bet she heard that word on tv.

If you remember that American Idol joke contestant, William Hung, he was performing "Take Me Out To The Ball Game" at the 7th inning stretch (Texas Rangers @ Toronto Blue Jays). I cracked up laughing when he sang, "Buy me some penis & Cracker Jacks."

I know it's broken English & meant to say peanuts. An elderly Mexican lady cracked me up with the 12 Days of Christmas, singing 10 Lords a Leaking! When the Lords have gotta go, they gotta go!

Washing the mouth out with soap, just like A Christmas Story (You'll shoot your eye out!).

Jelly Bean
02-22-2012, 10:13 AM
Oh, so that's what she meant when he got "excited".

that was actually what I meant when I said "excited." The actual term this mother used was "hard" but I didn't want to come out and just say it on here.

I'm curious though Storm Eagle what did you think I meant when I said "excited."

Storm Eagle
02-22-2012, 04:16 PM
That was actually what I meant when I said "excited." The actual term this mother used was "hard" but I didn't want to come out and just say it on here.

I'm curious though Storm Eagle what did you think I meant when I said "excited."

To be honest, I really wasn't sure.

Jelly Bean
02-24-2012, 10:34 AM
Ouch. It was hot sauce on the tongue for me.

some woman got in trouble for putting hot sauce on her kid's mouth than and then made him take a cold shower.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81208880/

Is hot saucing really that bad? Apprantently some people still do it. Was this abuse? It seems the lines of abuse and disipline are so blurred now. Who here was actually spanked growing up or made to take cold showers? In places like Korea they actually spank students all the way up to high school in front of classmates. Funny how different cultures have different views.

Storm Eagle
02-24-2012, 04:46 PM
some woman got in trouble for putting hot sauce on her kid's mouth than and then made him take a cold shower.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81208880/

Is hot saucing really that bad? Apparently some people still do it. Was this abuse? It seems the lines of abuse and discipline are so blurred now. Who here was actually spanked growing up or made to take cold showers? In places like Korea they actually spank students all the way up to high school in front of classmates. Funny how different cultures have different views.

Are you sure you want to ask everyone to share their spanking stories?

I read about that hot-saucing story. I've only known about one person to do that sort of thing to their kids, but the case you mentioned sounded rather extreme from what I read. It sounds like she gave him an excessive amount to take in. Just a dab on the tongue would have been all right, but not the way she did it.

I don't have a problem with corporal punishment in schools, but they should at least have the parents' consent. There are parents who spank their kids yet don't believe in school faculty doing it to kids. Though if the school doesn't rely on consent, and parents have a problem with their kids being spanked in school, then the parents should just simply not have their kid attend that school. Though if it's state-wide or country-wide, perhaps just move to another state pr country where that doesn't happen, I guess.

Jelly Bean
02-29-2012, 10:34 AM
Are you sure you want to ask everyone to share their spanking stories?

I didn't mean with details. Just whether they did or not.

some southern states still do it in schools don't they? Corporal punishment in schools seems to be falling out of favor all over the world though, not just here. I hear Japan stopped doing that awhile ago and I always thought they were more traditional over there. Korea still does it.

BubblyShell22
02-29-2012, 02:59 PM
Yeah, I think southern states still do use corporal punishment in some instances.

Storm Eagle
02-29-2012, 04:53 PM
I didn't mean with details. Just whether they did or not.


I'd be more interested in knowing about the ones who, like yourself, haven't. The ones who have must be the majority, and probably at 90-something percent.

Yeah, I think southern states still do use corporal punishment in some instances.

I know that Texas is one of them. In fact, I remember Inside Edition doing a story back in 1993 about how it's still used in schools in the US, and how some parents didn't like it. I remember one parent having her kids homeschooled because of it. They even showed a map of the US states where the ones that use that type of punishment in schools were lit. I already mentioned Texas, but the only other one I remember lit on the map is Alaska. By the way, I have a co-worker who used to live in Texas who's in his early 30s. Even he confirmed that Texas schools used corporal punishment.

My friend is a teacher and I told him about this, and he didn't believe me when I said that schools in the US still use corporal punishment to this day. I told him about the Inside Edition story, and he had the nerve to tell me that I must have misinterpreted the whole thing. That was damn insulting, because I can tell you that there's no way anyone with a brain could misinterpret anything in the story. He said that if any state had schools that used corporal punishment, that he'd be moving to one of them right away. He has mentioned smacking students in the head, which I don't agree with. He should at least have the parents' consent if he's going to do something like that (though not necessarily in the head), and I wonder what his boss would think if s/he knew that he had been doing that.

BubblyShell22
02-29-2012, 06:45 PM
I'm all for corporal punishment in schools. Kids these days just get away with too much. I remember the elementary school principal at my school used to paddle kids. I say as long as the parents have given consent, do it.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
03-13-2012, 09:52 AM
Kids these days just get away with too much.

I've heard that before. Was it yesterday or back in the 1970's? No, but thousands of years ago. The same complaining was carried out in Ancient Civilizations, especially Ancient Greece is well-known.

BubblyShell22
03-14-2012, 08:23 AM
Hey, just stating a fact that parents don't want to be parents anymore.

Jelly Bean
03-14-2012, 09:05 AM
Hey, just stating a fact that parents don't want to be parents anymore.

I think that is a rather unfair generalization. :-?

I think the biggest problem is that some people become parents before they are done growing up and still want to do their own thing.

But some people are really ready for parenthood.

Jester
03-14-2012, 04:44 PM
Few people are really ready for parenthood. My wife and I are excited about our potential baby ?, but I'm scared to death. If people waited until they were ready for kids...there'd be very few children.

Storm Eagle
03-15-2012, 10:19 AM
Few people are really ready for parenthood. My wife and I are excited about our potential baby ?, but I'm scared to death. If people waited until they were ready for kids...there'd be very few children.

That's why a co-worker once said "nobody's ready".

NameGoesHere1066
03-16-2012, 09:05 AM
certain persons are less ready than others. Like say, "teengers"?

Guitar_Raph
07-13-2012, 01:25 PM
-The mother joins in on the beating?
That's nothing, compared to my junior high days. Two teachers (music & gym coach) wanted to do the same thing!!

"Give that kid a paddling & you'll win $1,000! Plus, catch him crying & give him another paddling, you'll win $25,000!"
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And all the bullies would celebrate Thank goodness that nightmare didn't happen! Why did I post it? It's my 1,313th post for Friday the 13th!

Cure
07-13-2012, 04:12 PM
Why did I post it? It's my 1,313th post for Friday the 13th!


You're so awesome.