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CyberCubed
12-06-2011, 01:03 PM
We already know that IDW wants to take things from the various universes and combine them into one series. We're already seeing lots of Mirage and old toon influences and characters showing up.

From the movies a lot of people get the feeling Rahzar/Tokka might be used eventually at some point.

But what from the 4kids series? I'd say Hun might be a safe bet, given Tristan may want to use the character again. I am wondering though if we'll see the likes of Ch'rell or Bishop.

Venom
12-06-2011, 01:10 PM
The Dark Turtles. Totally going to have the dark Turtles pop up in issue 18. :twink:

I could see them woking in the Tribunal or the Ancient One, seeing as how Splinter's origins are seemingly more mystical with each issue. :)

TristanHuwJones
12-06-2011, 02:09 PM
We already know that IDW wants to take things from the various universes and combine them into one series. We're already seeing lots of Mirage and old toon influences and characters showing up.

From the movies a lot of people get the feeling Rahzar/Tokka might be used eventually at some point.

But what from the 4kids series? I'd say Hun might be a safe bet, given Tristan may want to use the character again. I am wondering though if we'll see the likes of Ch'rell or Bishop.

I, unfortunately, had to cut Bishop from Infestation. Not a huge deal, but it was a fun inclusion for a while, but I streamlined things a bit and left him out when I did.

Matches Malone
12-06-2011, 02:28 PM
I, unfortunately, had to cut Bishop from Infestation. Not a huge deal, but it was a fun inclusion for a while, but I streamlined things a bit and left him out when I did.

So Bishop was cut due to creative reasons or was his inclusion not approved?

Cowabunga Carl
12-06-2011, 02:42 PM
Tristan your two issues have me so stoked. I really can't wait to read your turtle stories again. Is this a one time deal or can we expect to see you back with our boys in green more often?

Andrew NDB
12-06-2011, 02:45 PM
had to cut Bishop from Infestation.

That's the first good news I've heard about Infestation 2. ;)

Keldor1578
12-06-2011, 03:51 PM
That's the first good news I've heard about Infestation 2. ;)

yet, you are fan of crappy characters like Complete Carnage and Savanti Romero, I hope we never them IDW:roll:,

Cowabunga Carl
12-06-2011, 03:54 PM
I think Bishop could fit this new world nicely. Since it seems they are going with more of the Turtles origin being the mutagen was made as a weapon. I could see alien tech behind that kind of thing and Bishop being a "man in black" trying to stop them.

Keldor I think you're out of line making a statement like that. There are a lot of people who like those characters. And personal attacks aren't needed.

CyberCubed
12-06-2011, 04:07 PM
yet, you are fan crappy characters like Complete Carnage and Savanti Romero, I hope we never them IDW:roll:,

To be honest I kind of hope we don't see them either. Well Savanti IS OK, but if they're not going to use Renet I don't think he'll appear.

gobo
12-06-2011, 04:10 PM
What will IDW take from the 4kids universe?
Whatever It Does Want.

Keldor1578
12-06-2011, 04:12 PM
I think Bishop could fit this new world nicely. Since it seems they are going with more of the Turtles origin being the mutagen was made as a weapon. I could see alien tech behind that kind of thing and Bishop being a "man in black" trying to stop them.

Keldor I think you're out of line making a statement like that. There are a lot of people who like those characters. And personal attacks aren't needed.

I dind't attacks anyone, Andrew NDB was trolling by saying it was good news that Bishop was cut from infestation 2. At least Bishop is interesting character.

Cowabunga Carl
12-06-2011, 04:24 PM
You know who I'd like to see them take from 2k3 is Touch and Go. I think they could be an interesting addition to the comics. Given the chance to flesh them out they could be very interesting.

TristanHuwJones
12-06-2011, 04:42 PM
So Bishop was cut due to creative reasons or was his inclusion not approved?

Creative reasons. He just didn't fit after I made a couple of tweaks.

Tristan your two issues have me so stoked. I really can't wait to read your turtle stories again. Is this a one time deal or can we expect to see you back with our boys in green more often?

It's way too early in the game to know. I'm seeing it as a one time deal. There's nothing planned beyond Infestation. Ghostbusters is still going strong, and I've just been brought on to write a book over at APE Entertainment, so I'm just playing things by ear. If it ever comes up again, I'll certainly take a look at it, but Tom's doing an awesome job on things, and at the end of the day it's up to Bobby and the others at IDW.

That's the first good news I've heard about Infestation 2. ;)

You know ZILCH about Infestation, buddy. Words will be eaten. Trust me. ;)

Andrew NDB
12-06-2011, 04:44 PM
You know ZILCH about Infestation, buddy. Words will be eaten. Trust me. ;)

I hope so... and we'll see. :)

TristanHuwJones
12-06-2011, 04:45 PM
Besides, you saw how I treated Hun. What makes you think I wouldn't do the same with Bishop?

Andrew NDB
12-06-2011, 04:48 PM
Besides, you saw how I treated Hun. What makes you think I wouldn't do the same with Bishop?

Oh, I was just being facetious. In truth, I don't have any problem with adaptions of any of the 4Kids characters appearing in the IDW universe... it's a new universe, after all. Transplanting them to the Mirage universe, that's what I kind of had a problem with.

Which isn't to say you did it poorly with Hun -- quite the contrary. I hope the character sees new life at IDW under your pen.

CyberCubed
12-06-2011, 08:48 PM
I think the funny thing is the 4kids series didn't really introduce many new villains. Hun and Bishop are the only real notable ones, besides their version of the Shredder being Ch'rell.

Due to PL, 4kids mostly used Mirage characters like Karai, Baxter, the Triceratons, Leatherhead, Rat King, Savanti, etc. so there's not much to take. The only other villains they created was low-tier characters like Touch and Go, Garbageman, or the Ultimate Ninja and Draco.

The 4kids series really just focused on Ch'rell, Hun and Bishop as the 3 notable new villains...

Cowabunga Carl
12-07-2011, 09:12 AM
It's way too early in the game to know. I'm seeing it as a one time deal. There's nothing planned beyond Infestation. Ghostbusters is still going strong, and I've just been brought on to write a book over at APE Entertainment, so I'm just playing things by ear. If it ever comes up again, I'll certainly take a look at it, but Tom's doing an awesome job on things, and at the end of the day it's up to Bobby and the others at IDW.


We'll take what we can get. Ghostbusters is very awesome and I'm enjoying it very much. First two comics I've been excited about coming out each week. Heck the first comics that I actually try to pick up the day they come out.

pannoni1
12-07-2011, 09:29 AM
It has already taken the skin tones for the turtles themself, which wasn't really well-known until 4kids. Really, if you take away all the Mirage content imported into 4kids, it wasn't that great of a series. That's why some don't get it when they say 4kids is better than the Fred Wolf version, which of course had better original characters (Hun, Bishop, and Cher'ell are not on the same level as Krang, Bebop, and Rocksteady!) We might see the battle shell and other vehicles making an appearance, and some animation styles used in 4kids (ponytail April, for example). And with PL not involved with this series, that lessens the chances of influence.

Andrew NDB
12-07-2011, 10:02 AM
(Hun, Bishop, and Cher'ell are not on the same level as Krang, Bebop, and Rocksteady!)

Not anywhere near the same level of nonsense, no. Not that I have any particular love for any of those myself... though I can appreciate the potential for a ground-up reimagining of Bishop and Ch'rell.

Cowabunga Carl
12-07-2011, 10:16 AM
Ch'rell could be interesting reworked. It could be interesting if that is who General Krang is fighting. Maybe they are two different races of Utroms fighting for dominance of their planet.

marcelangelo
12-07-2011, 10:24 AM
say trsitan, over at the uy dojo you mentioned you would do your own createrowned comic book in the near future..I wonder if that is the book you are going to do for ape?...or is ape just a short nickname for planet of the APEs comic series?;)....I just wondered what happened to your story, I am excited to see that one day...
greetings
marcel

CyberCubed
12-07-2011, 01:30 PM
Bishop could be worked as an ally for the Turtles if Krang starts creating lots of mutants. Bishop wants to protect the Earth from aliens/mutants and he works at a Darpa/Area 51 type base.

Hermano Dyvas
12-11-2011, 11:27 AM
I hope they include Bishop but not as an ally to the turtles. He was too sweet a villain for that. Of course I don't have a problem with the TMNT and Bishop having to fight together reluctantly to overcome greater threats but at the end of the day, they should remain enemies.

BAXTER STOCKMAN 19
12-11-2011, 12:09 PM
Besides, you saw how I treated Hun. What makes you think I wouldn't do the same with Bishop?


Are there any chance that we will see Hun in IDW? He was the best of the new vilians of 4kids series. Will we see him?

Andrew NDB
12-11-2011, 01:30 PM
Are there any chance that we will see Hun in IDW? He was the best of the new vilians of 4kids series. Will we see him?

There's a huge chance. I remember Tom over here or on the IDW boards said the 4Kids stuff is actually his favorite TMNT material (not sure if he meant including the comics or whatever, but I'm assuming of "mass media" at least).

azrael
12-11-2011, 01:36 PM
I bet they will take 4 turtles who mutate and learn ninja from a rat. I also assume they will be named after dead artist except for the Rat he will be named after Stick.

Thats my guess :P

have a good day.

CyberCubed
12-11-2011, 01:53 PM
The Battle Nexus and the Foot Mystics found their way into Mirage so they might here too.