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Master Splinter
12-13-2011, 08:58 PM
If this isn't an appropriate topic please delete it.

If anyone didn't know United States Congress is set to vote on a bill this Thursday (12/15) that will essentially create an Internet filter that will block websites that link or post another persons intellectual property. I urge anyone in America to call or email their congressmen and congresswomen and tell them that you do not support this bill (HR 3261).

Even The Technodrome isn't safe. Viacom now owns the Teenage Mutant Nina Turtles and if this passes into law they could shut this website down just because of the content on these forums. No due process at all. One day it is here, the next day it won't be.

Just do a google search on Stop Online Piracy Act and you will easily find information on how you can help.

-ms

Spitfire
12-13-2011, 10:19 PM
This won't last long even if it does pass. It's too invasive. The government can't stop drug cartels or illegal immigration. They act like they're trying but reality is they know someone will always find another way and piracy is the same thing. The worst part about the bill is websites like Youtube and Facebook will become legally responsible for the content posted on their sites. Meaning they can be sued instead of the person who posted it. This will cause those sites to tank or have really strong screening processes. Say good bye to pulling images offline for the most part. See ya Deviant Art and all your fan art. Granted some news related websites will be able to keep their images not everyone will.

I doubt the entertainment industry can argue that piracy is bad for them anymore. It's actually not and music sales have increased since digital downloading started. They only lost out in the first few years before itunes introduced a way to pay for that content. Also Avatar is the most pirated film in history and guess how much money it made?

oldmanwinters
12-13-2011, 10:28 PM
Occupy the Internet? :ohwell:

Redeemer
12-13-2011, 10:50 PM
If this isn't an appropriate topic please delete it.

If anyone didn't know United States Congress is set to vote on a bill this Thursday (12/15) that will essentially create an Internet filter that will block websites that link or post another persons intellectual property. I urge anyone in America to call or email their congressmen and congresswomen and tell them that you do not support this bill (HR 3261).

Even The Technodrome isn't safe. Viacom now owns the Teenage Mutant Nina Turtles and if this passes into law they could shut this website down just because of the content on these forums. No due process at all. One day it is here, the next day it won't be.

Just do a google search on Stop Online Piracy Act and you will easily find information on how you can help.

-ms

Really????? Can they really do this????? The internet is owned by the people, its not government property. I dont support priracy in any way, but in fact against it, but when it limits the right of an individual and there FREEDOM OF SPEECH I think it should be stopped.

TheCanadiandrome
12-13-2011, 11:10 PM
Occupy the Internet? :ohwell:

yeah no doubt

Krang
12-14-2011, 02:30 AM
This site (http://americancensorship.org/) has some more information about the bill and its opposition.

Andrew NDB
12-14-2011, 10:29 AM
Even The Technodrome isn't safe. Viacom now owns the Teenage Mutant Nina Turtles and if this passes into law they could shut this website down just because of the content on these forums.

They could do that anyway. They always could have.

Master Splinter
12-14-2011, 11:25 AM
They could do that anyway. They always could have.

While that is true I would find it more unlikely that a smaller company such as Mirage would do something like that while Viacom (which is actually a supporter of this bill) could and I can imagine would. This bill just makes it much easier to do that without any sort of warning to the website owner. Forget a take down notice, the site just gets taken down.

And when I say taken down, the actual server isn't turned off and the website deleted, the DNS entry would be rerouted which would cause the website to be inaccessible. Modifying DNS is not a good thing for anyone.

-ms

Koschei
12-15-2011, 08:27 AM
We Americans are headed into some scary times.
Especially since the President did not veto Military Detention of American Citizens this week.

BubblyShell22
12-15-2011, 08:50 AM
America has been going dowhill for a long time, and it isn't going to get any better anytime soon. We might as well get used to it. If this does pass, then we might as well not go on the Internet at all.

Master Splinter
12-15-2011, 10:27 AM
America has been going dowhill for a long time, and it isn't going to get any better anytime soon. We might as well get used to it. If this does pass, then we might as well not go on the Internet at all.

Don't let it happen, you can help prevent this by contacting your congressman or woman today! Don't think that just one voice won't be heard, because your voice along with the other thousands upon millions who do the same will make a difference.

www.americancensorship.org

-ms

愛
12-15-2011, 10:31 AM
There's a live streaming of today's hearing of SOPA, and it's in session right now.

http://keepthewebopen.com/sopa

Gotta admit, if this passes I'm excited to see how quickly workarounds will surface to dodge censorship of the internet.

TheCanadiandrome
12-17-2011, 11:01 PM
hm... well once it hits the US, Canada might not be too far behind, but i hope not

Gyt Kaliba
12-26-2011, 10:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIuYgIvKsc

I'm unsure how much of this video is honestly true, as I haven't poked around the links provided (and I doubt I'd understand most of it if I did), but assuming it's true - Woooooww. :/ Despite this guy's goofy mannerisms, there's a lot of interesting info in this video, so I'm seeing what I can do about passing this vid around so it can get in the hands of as many people as possible.

Also, assuming again that this vid is all true, it makes sense. There's no way the supporters and drafters of this 'law' think it's really gonna stop piracy, there had to be an in. This could easily be it.

Dirty Blond
12-27-2011, 05:37 PM
http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/political-pictures-ron-paul-read-constitution.jpg?w=500&h=318

Redeemer
12-27-2011, 06:13 PM
http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/political-pictures-ron-paul-read-constitution.jpg?w=500&h=318

pretty good dirty blond lol

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
12-28-2011, 01:13 PM
We can just re-start the site and stop publishing images. But I hate laws like this. I think all images should be free on the Internet as long as you make no money of them (I an understand that they don't want movies, music and video games being downloaded).

In the late 1970's and throughout the 1980's and early 1990's, movie music industry feared the videotape and cassette tape. You could tape songs from radio and movies from TV.

MikeandRaph87
01-11-2012, 05:36 PM
A Ron Paul supporter and a good find!:tlol:

Has it been killed yet?

TheCanadiandrome
01-11-2012, 10:57 PM
Has it been killed yet?

If "Anonymous" has their way it will be

Master Splinter
01-13-2012, 10:30 AM
I would like to suggest that The Technodrome and all other fan sites go dark on January 18th, 2012 from 8a.m. to 8p.m. est in a coordinated effort to protest the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and the Protect-IP Act (PIPA). I recommend that instead of serving up the normal websites we go dark and instead provide information on SOPA and PIPA and the harm they will cause for the internet not only in the United States but across the globe. If anyone would like any information on what they can do to help or how they can participate in the blackout day on January 18th please let me know and I would be happy to help in anyway.

Do not think for one second this will not affect you, Viacom is a supporter of these two bills, if they pass Viacom will have the power to effectively shut down ANY Ninja Turtle site they feel violates their copyright, this can and most likely will include TheTechnodrome.com (http://TheTechnodrome.com), NinjaPizza.net (http://NinjaPizza.net), GoGreenMachine.org (http://GoGreenMachine.org), MutantOoze.org (http://MutantOoze.org), TMNT-NinjaTurtles.com (http://TMNT-NinjaTurtles.com), terrible2z.com (http://terrible2z.com), and many, many, more TMNT blogs, tumblrs, and fan made websites.

-ms

MikeandRaph87
01-13-2012, 10:51 AM
I would like to suggest that The Technodrome and all other fan sites go dark on January 18th, 2012 from 8a.m. to 8p.m. est in a coordinated effort to protest the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and the Protect-IP Act (PIPA). I recommend that instead of serving up the normal websites we go dark and instead provide information on SOPA and PIPA and the harm they will cause for the internet not only in the United States but across the globe. If anyone would like any information on what they can do to help or how they can participate in the blackout day on January 18th please let me know and I would be happy to help in anyway.

Do not think for one second this will not affect you, Viacom is a supporter of these two bills, if they pass Viacom will have the power to effectively shut down ANY Ninja Turtle site they feel violates their copyright, this can and most likely will include TheTechnodrome.com (http://TheTechnodrome.com), NinjaPizza.net (http://NinjaPizza.net), GoGreenMachine.org (http://GoGreenMachine.org), MutantOoze.org (http://MutantOoze.org), TMNT-NinjaTurtles.com (http://TMNT-NinjaTurtles.com), terrible2z.com (http://terrible2z.com), and many, many, more TMNT blogs, tumblrs, and fan made websites.

-ms

Contact Krang about it. Of course I cannot speak for each 'Dromer,but I think a majority would happily go along with the idea and it should be done to see if it will effect the outcome. Thanks for keeping us informed about this,Splinter.

Andrew NDB
01-13-2012, 11:36 AM
I dunno... as noble of a gesture as it'd be, I'm having trouble imagining Viacom executives, lawyers (on either side of the argument), or senators, or judges, or really anyone with any decision making power in all of this surfing the internet and going, "Oh noes... there's a lot of fan-sites down today. I was going to endorse the bill but, well now, this very well changes everything!"

If anything, you'd think they'd be like, "Oh good, the fansites are taking a day to rehearse the big shutdown they've got waiting for them when this passes. Good for them."

oldmanwinters
01-13-2012, 11:40 AM
I dunno... as noble of a gesture as it'd be, I'm having trouble imagining Viacom executives, lawyers (on either side of the argument), or senators, or judges, or really anyone with any decision making power in all of this surfing the internet and going, "Oh noes... there's a lot of fan-sites down today. I was going to endorse the bill but, well now, this very well changes everything!"

If anything, you'd think they'd be like, "Oh good, the fansites are taking a day to rehearse the big shutdown they've got waiting for them when this passes. Good for them."

Heh, that's about my thinking. Does anyone know of a time in which an internet boycott actually changed anything in the real world?

Master Splinter
01-13-2012, 11:46 AM
I dunno... as noble of a gesture as it'd be, I'm having trouble imagining Viacom executives, lawyers (on either side of the argument), or senators, or judges, or really anyone with any decision making power in all of this surfing the internet and going, "Oh noes... there's a lot of fan-sites down today. I was going to endorse the bill but, well now, this very well changes everything!"

If anything, you'd think they'd be like, "Oh good, the fansites are taking a day to rehearse the big shutdown they've got waiting for them when this passes. Good for them."

The protest would not be for Viacom to notice us, it is for regular users who do not know the effects of SOPA/PIPA and doing the blackout would give them a taste of what is to come if they do not stand up and fight for their right to a internet without censorship.

Heh, that's about my thinking. Does anyone know of a time in which an internet boycott actually changed anything in the real world?

Just a few weeks ago a boycott of GoDaddy (http://godaddyboycott.org/) resulted in over 82,000 websites being transferred from GoDaddy to other registers who do not support SOPA. Including big names like Wikipedia and the Cheezburger network. GoDaddy has since changed their stance on SOPA but the damage has already been done.

I just want people to understand that you can either sit on your hands and let this pass and then hate what the government has done or you can do something about it and prevent it from happening. The choice is yours. I know where I stand.

-ms

Wingnut
01-13-2012, 12:59 PM
I'll be participating.

Seriously though, the US government has been quite accomplished in censorship, propaganda, and detention of US citizens (Japanese-Americans WW2 anyone?) for a LONG time. The fact that we live in the instant information age just puts some of it out in the open, then we get armchair politicians and activists. Go ask a Native American how honest and fair we are. Yeah that's what I thought.

If 80% of the country coulda smelled the sh*t on their knees about 30 years ago, we could've avoided this defining choke point in American history. The 9/11 era has sped up the process, but the plan of corporations and the private sector (the 1%) to completely rip the country from the masses has been in motion for, as mentioned before, the better part of 30 years.


This country, as a whole, sh*t the bed. Now we're lying in it.

oldmanwinters
01-13-2012, 06:23 PM
Just a few weeks ago a boycott of GoDaddy (http://godaddyboycott.org/) resulted in over 82,000 websites being transferred from GoDaddy to other registers who do not support SOPA. Including big names like Wikipedia and the Cheezburger network. GoDaddy has since changed their stance on SOPA but the damage has already been done.

I just want people to understand that you can either sit on your hands and let this pass and then hate what the government has done or you can do something about it and prevent it from happening. The choice is yours. I know where I stand.

-ms

Well... whaddya know! I am proud to stand corrected.

Still... I don't think a Technodrome Forums black-out would be of any significance. It's gotta be something on a bigger scale to really hit the companies where it hurts.

Jester
01-13-2012, 06:36 PM
But you see, Splinter, that's a totally different style of protest. Those boycotting godaddy.com are "voting with their wallets" so to speak. godaddy is gonna feel the pinch and rethink their strategy and wither or not they will still support these bills. 5 or 6 TMNT fan sites going black won't cause anyone financial hardship, especially Viacom. Now if on the same day, people didn't frequent Viacom's many site or watch their many TV networks...that might...MIGHT... make them take some notice.

Master Splinter
01-13-2012, 08:59 PM
But you see, Splinter, that's a totally different style of protest. Those boycotting godaddy.com are "voting with their wallets" so to speak. godaddy is gonna feel the pinch and rethink their strategy and wither or not they will still support these bills. 5 or 6 TMNT fan sites going black won't cause anyone financial hardship, especially Viacom. Now if on the same day, people didn't frequent Viacom's many site or watch their many TV networks...that might...MIGHT... make them take some notice.

I agree the godaddy boycott was a protest with their wallets. But it was organized on the internet, which is an example Oldman asked for. I've said it once already, doing a blackout is not a protest against the companies, I know it will not affect them at all, the point of the black out is to inform the users of the internet of what the internet will be like if SOPA/PIPA passes. It is an informational protest. A good majority of Americans do not even know what SOPA/PIPA is and I would like to believe if they did they would not stand for it. Again it's not about protesting the companies, it is about showing what the internet will look like if your favorite websites went down because of these bills.

The Technodrome doesn't have to go completely down, maybe changing the top banner to a #stopsopa banner with a link to information about the bill or something...

A quick example of how this could affect the technodrome, this thead (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=35124) has links to scans of manuals from Nintendo, etc.. Most (not all) of the video game companies are pro-sopa, hypothetically if SOPA/PIPA passed and made into law they could legally have this site shut down because of those infringing links, and the OP would receive jail time for violating copyright. And that is only the beginning, you upload a video to youtube of your kid running around your house and the t.v. is on in the living room and The Simpsons is on, you could get fined and or jailed for that. Fox wanted $10,000 (http://books.google.com/books?id=vo9G-0iZNQIC&pg=PA16&lpg=PA16&dq=FOX+demanded+$10,000+for+use+rights+simpsons&source=bl&ots=7DLM9K3KJq&sig=pVjYNfeFAduaECu_F6S-j_2Ysl0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=3fEQT6mQO8WItwebmu2jAg&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=FOX%20demanded%20%2410%2C000%20for%20use%20right s%20simpsons&f=false) for 4.5 seconds of The Simpsons shown in the background on a t.v. during a documentary. Do you think they won't want money from you if they could have legal recourse to get it from you?

-ms

Krang
01-14-2012, 02:45 AM
I'm also against SOPA/PIPA, and I'd like to do what I can to help prevent it from passing, but I don't think a blackout would be the right approach for us. As others have mentioned, we're not a big enough site to make any difference by doing that.

The Technodrome doesn't have to go completely down, maybe changing the top banner to a #stopsopa banner with a link to information about the bill or something...
This is something that we could definitely do, though.

BubblyShell22
01-14-2012, 10:02 AM
TMNT-L has a banner on the top of their site about stopping SOPA. Maybe that would help. I think a total blackout wouldn't do any good, and that people who may not understand why may think that said sites are having difficulties rather than it being a protest. I understand what your intentions, are, MS, but I highly doubt it'll really do anything. I'm against this, too, but honestly, there are people who aren't going to care what we think. That's how politics works. They're only in it for themselves, and they don't care how it affects people like us. It's sad but true.

Master Splinter
01-14-2012, 11:05 AM
I can understand why you wouldn't want to blackout the entire site. I made this banner, let me know what y'all think, I can change it if needed. If anyone can come up with one too post it.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3496/tdlogosopamockup.png

Here are some other links with some tools others can use on their sites if they wish to participate.

Tumblr and Website censorship code
http://fffff.at/stop-sopa-blackout/

WordPress SOPA Blackout Plugin
http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/sopa-blackout/

WordPress STOP SOPA Ribbon Plugin
http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/stop-sopa-ribbon/

Google Chrome SOPA Supporter Extension
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/jkiamcpjpeaceneehbjccpjjnhgcmpnd

Twitter Blackout Profile Image
http://www.blackoutsopa.org/

Additional Links

http://defendtheinter.net/

http://censoredbysopa.com/

http://americancensorship.org

http://keepthewebopen.com

http://fightforthefuture.org

http://demandprogress.org

http://stopcensorship.org/

http://publicknowledge.org/e-parasite-stop-online-piracy-act

http://projects.propublica.org/sopa/

Also, here is a list of those in congress that are for or against the bills. Find your rep and senators and contact them and let them know you do not support these bills.

http://sopaopera.org/

-ms

gobo
01-14-2012, 03:22 PM
Just curious, but are you trying to get all fansites involved in this, like you breifly mentioned a while back? It would have a better chance of educating people about the bill if they saw it everywhere. Like a web-nerd recruitment day. A dinky, little banner is too easy to overlook. And, I appreciate your message, saying "blackout" sites to show that this could be the future for fan-communities in general if the bill is passed.

MikeandRaph87
01-14-2012, 03:32 PM
I guess it will be up to the individual. We can ask Rose and Vaugh and others that have their own sites. Also, anyone that is friends with non-TMNT related sites that someone runs. We may only be reaching out to a few thousand people yet its better than only a handful that may look at this particular thread. If all goes our way it won't pass anyway. Yet to do that I would also suggest that each person agrees to write to thier respective congressman or congresswoman and ask them to vote against it. Every little measure helps.

KROW
01-15-2012, 04:47 AM
Here's something to quell your fears. (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-14/white-house-won-t-support-internet-censorship-in-online-anti-piracy-bills.html)

John Pannozzi
01-15-2012, 01:43 PM
Please watch this video and help spread the word about the truth regarding SOPA:

WJIuYgIvKsc

gobo
01-15-2012, 03:22 PM
Excellent find, John. This needs to be stickied ASAP.

P.S. - Should anyone need this video for editing or redistributing purposes, let me know.

Master Splinter
01-16-2012, 10:55 AM
It appears that the house has shelved SOPA (for now).

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2012_01/putting_sopa_on_a_shelf034765.php

Let's hope PIPA finds it way out very soon as well. This is very good news for the internet. I still think on January 18th we should put up a banner in support of internet freedom and opposition to PIPA which is still in the Senate.

-ms

Redeemer
01-16-2012, 11:45 AM
I think the government has more pressing concerns than people pirating. such as this economy.

Falconhood
01-16-2012, 02:27 PM
Our kids can't read or multiply. Our kids are getting knocked-up while they are still kids. Unemployment is at an all time high.
But, let's pass a bill that helps the wealthy stay in power.

BubblyShell22
01-16-2012, 04:27 PM
Well, at least it's been shelved for now. That's a good sign. I think the government should worry about bigger issues. And even if PIPA still passes, there are still going to be people pirating stuff. It's just like how they want to ban gun rights. They can do that all they want, but it's not going to do any good because people are still going to get ahold of guns underground anyway. What do they think they're going to accomplish with any of it? If you take away the guns, terrorists will just take advantage of us. If you try to stop pirating, it's just going to keep happening.

TheCanadiandrome
01-16-2012, 09:17 PM
Yay its over for now

Master Splinter
01-17-2012, 07:27 AM
Yay its over for now

SOPA is but not PIPA which is essentially the same bill but in the Senate and not the House. We still need to contact Senators and let them know that PIPA is not something you want and they can easily be replaced if the move forward on this bill.

-ms

MikeandRaph87
01-17-2012, 02:04 PM
Wikipedia to go dark tomorrow and be redirected to a banner explainning the bill. These should do good especially getting the news exposure on Yahoo! and television news outlets. The banner on here can do a little as well.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/trending-now/popular-websites-dark-over-sopa-controversy-174211626.html

TheCanadiandrome
01-17-2012, 08:32 PM
SOPA is but not PIPA which is essentially the same bill but in the Senate and not the House. We still need to contact Senators and let them know that PIPA is not something you want and they can easily be replaced if the move forward on this bill.

-ms

Yeah cause if it goes through there it'll be Canada next :tgrumble:

turtles_kolektor
01-18-2012, 04:58 AM
On the side note PIPA as a one word in polish language is a synonym for vagina :D

Ulisses31
01-18-2012, 07:16 AM
I´m in Europe, and I don´t like this SOPA or PIPA, first USA then EU, so lets stop it right now.

Oh and check this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/12/68/13/09/wiki10.jpg

pannoni1
01-18-2012, 07:46 AM
That's why I am a big fan of non-digital material. I still don't have a e-Reader, I have a complete set of bot Britannica and World Book encyclopedias (sure, they're a bit dated), but they are tangible and not subject to big changes. I bet April must be pretty upset today! But I just hope that this forum doesn't shuts down like Ninja Turtles Network; much of the knowledge with regards to TMNT will be lost forever, since forums aren't as archivally dependable as other sites. The information age is basically another redistribution of business; stuff that's easy to get online for instance has dropped prices of music a bit, but has raised concert prices quite a bit. That's where Lionsgate, Viacom, and the like do to protect various information, and it's not easy in this era. Still, this is the most active move against piracy since the Internet became big nearly 20 years ago, and I would stay tuned for more serious consequences against piracy in the future.

JaffleMan
01-18-2012, 07:48 AM
Viacom is a supporter of SOPA. I'm not even American but if somthiong like this ever passes others will follow.

If SOPA comes back in one form or another, then unless my fears are proven wrong, I am genuinely considering only collecting pre Viacom TMNT.

https://sites.google.com/site/boycottsopasponsors/home/list-of-supporters-and-sponsors

NightwatchersOnlygirl
01-18-2012, 10:35 AM
Well I'm from the U.K will SOPA happen in the U.K

Master Splinter
01-18-2012, 10:46 AM
Viacom is a supporter of SOPA. I'm not even American but if somthiong like this ever passes others will follow.

If SOPA comes back in one form or another, then unless my fears are proven wrong, I am genuinely considering only collecting pre Viacom TMNT.

https://sites.google.com/site/boycottsopasponsors/home/list-of-supporters-and-sponsors


SOPA is back (http://torrentfreak.com/sopa-is-baaack-120117/)... apparently shelving it wasn't a reality, this bill needs to be stopped and never pursued again, as well as pipa...

Well I'm from the U.K will SOPA happen in the U.K

Yes it will. Similar laws are already in motion to pass in other parts of Europe. Spain (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16391727) just recently adopted a new piracy law. I don't have time to post more links but it is already starting to make it's way there. But remember a lot of sites are still housed in America and if SOPA passes those sites will not only be blocked for Americans but the rest of the world as well.

-ms

Sage Ninja
01-18-2012, 12:00 PM
this is scarey as hell. I kind of wish youtube would do a blackout protest as well even if I would personaly be put out over it since I got there all the time.

Is anyone else having issues signing your name and information in the protest site? I keep doing it and trying to submit it but it won't let me. :x

iris
01-18-2012, 01:29 PM
OMFG people. This is just a drop-by to thank you for supporting the SOPA/PIPA protest. I haven't been around in so long I almost forgot my username :roll:, but dang I did not forget the 'Drome!

LEOTMNT
01-18-2012, 04:46 PM
This is crazy! they want to take away our rights! cut off our communication, and freedom to express ourselfs!! i know about the bill for military impunity but internet censorship is brilliant. The Governments are EVIL. any one familiar with Anonymous? STOP THESE BILLS!

MikeandRaph87
01-18-2012, 04:58 PM
There was a two minute segment on the 5'0 clock news edition on CBS. A sentator tried to explain they are attempting to stop hackers and pirates not take away privacy. I don't know if anyone actually bought it watching though.

rufus
01-18-2012, 05:48 PM
http://popwatch.ew.com/2012/01/18/internet-blackout-sopa-pipa/#disqus_thread Some senators have dropped thier support of it it seems.

Roseangelo
01-18-2012, 06:09 PM
Congressman Lamar Smith, Author Of SOPA, Breaks Copyright Law On Campaign Website

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01/18/congressman-lamar-smith-author-of-sopa-breaks-copyright-law-on-campaign-website-image/

Katie
01-18-2012, 06:13 PM
And the reason the Senators and Congressmen will drop their support is because their constituants (that's you folks) keep contacting them and voicing their concerns about this bill.

I can't stress this enough. Here in the United States, if you are over 18 YOU SHOULD BE REGISTERED TO VOTE. AND VOTING! If you aren't you're letting morons like the people who want this bill to pass run your life. If you think one person doesn't matter.....just one person at a time called these Senators. There was one person who was the swaing number.

Don't just sit back and think that you don't matter or have no say in things. Complacency just means you are letting someone else make the rules you live by. SPEAK UP. HAVE A VOICE. CALL YOUR SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVES. Email them! Let them know what you think!

MikeandRaph87
01-18-2012, 06:17 PM
The most effective way is to write in. Handwirrten or typed it does not matter. Its more meaningful and is more likely to be seen by a senator/congressman instead of just a secretary with a generic response from what my local House Rep. told me. So it may cost you a stamp but its worth it if you want your voice heard.

Master Splinter
01-18-2012, 08:03 PM
Well I'm from the U.K will SOPA happen in the U.K

I found this for you.

https://www.laquadrature.net/wiki/How_to_act_against_ACTA

-ms

TheCanadiandrome
01-18-2012, 08:19 PM
This is total bs imho

MikeandRaph87
01-18-2012, 10:32 PM
Both Jon Stewart and Conan O'Brien began their repsective shows with the topic. Stewart even gave the protest the theme song "Imagine". Here is an interesting article regarding Wiki's attempt at getting a protest going and informing the masses:
http://news.yahoo.com/wikipedia-editors-sites-blackout-120914984.html

ryukenden
01-18-2012, 10:49 PM
Everybody I know and all my favorite websites are opposed to this very vociferously. The thought of never watching again web-based shows and going on these forums is a terrible thing.

Volvagia
01-19-2012, 07:27 AM
Mike Mozart has made another great video on the subject

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BubblyShell22
01-19-2012, 09:13 AM
Wow. This sucks a**. Well, at least some people tried to protest it. We'll see if these idiots even listen to the people, but it doesn't look like it now.

Master Splinter
01-19-2012, 10:06 AM
Wow. This sucks a**. Well, at least some people tried to protest it. We'll see if these idiots even listen to the people, but it doesn't look like it now.

I believe these idiots are now realizing the mistake they made and because of the protest they have done an about face on their stance...

http://projects.propublica.org/sopa/

This looked a lot different before yesterday... Even one of my Senators (Roy Blunt) flipped flopped and is now not supporting PIPA/SOPA... Good job everyone! Keep up the pressure and let congress know you will not stop until these bills are eradicated from existence!

-ms

BubblyShell22
01-19-2012, 04:13 PM
And let's hope they actually listen to us.

Cascadia
01-19-2012, 08:00 PM
Both of my senators and all of my state's representatives are against PIPA/SOPA. :D

Machias Banshee
01-19-2012, 09:27 PM
I really hope common sense prevails in this. I had a feeling something like this would happen when youtube started shutting down personal videos that used copyrighted materials. A bigger clue was when geocities shut down All their websites. A major chunk of their sites were fansites with people using logos and screenshots and other things.

If people are using something copyrighted for personal use and not making a profit from it, I would think it wouldn't be an issue - Krang's not making money from screencaps or episode clips. Making profit from pirated materials, completely different story. I do understand the side of the people who create things and don't want others stealing it and using it without permission - like if someone took material from Rose's site and used it for their own projects without permission or even giving her credit...

There's so many federal regulations on EVERYTHING now. Remember when people made their own mixtapes and CDs? You didn't see the government trying to shut down the companies that made cassette tapes and CDs back then... The idea of ownership has changed so much. Back then you had tapes and cds and records that you could hold in your hands.

...now we have all this electronic data that can be completely erased with a few key clicks. Or a hundred dollars worth of songs and movies can be lost due to a virus or a bad program or the consequences of your new-found 'criminal activity'.

Sage Ninja
01-19-2012, 10:19 PM
I hope this gets the boot. It is agitating me so much right now. I put the petion sign up page linked to my facebook. Hopefully people on there will see it and sign it as well.

Cascadia
01-20-2012, 01:02 PM
Hot Off the Press...SOPA is postponed indefinitely...

SOPA lead sponsor Senator Lamar Smith says markup in the bill will be postponed "indefinitely" until wider consensus on how to combat piracy can be reached.

Congrats to everyone that have fought this bill. :D:thumbsup:

http://www.siliconrepublic.com/new-media/item/25434-lamar-smith-decides-to/

The Stryker
01-20-2012, 01:09 PM
Yawn. Another threat to the internet that was never going to go anywhere, doesn't go anywhere.

Color me bored.

愛
01-20-2012, 01:13 PM
Oh my lord, so surprising! And I thought we were all screwed when they referred to experts as "nerds!"

Now that the scare is over, if you need something new in your life to be keeping you up at night, we could bring back global warming. That's always a classic. Oh, maybe there's a new animal flu perking up somewhere that we can be up in arms with! Man, the possibilities...

BubblyShell22
01-20-2012, 01:53 PM
I had a feeling it would be shelved. I heard on the news that they're postponing it so that they can reach a compromise. Mostly it was due in part to Google's and Wikipedia's protests when they went dark. At least that's what I heard.

TonySiegel
01-22-2012, 08:29 PM
Its the information age and downloading is now part of our culture.

KROW
01-26-2012, 03:48 PM
Now we just have to worry about ACTA. (http://www.prisonplanet.com/obama-signs-global-internet-treaty-worse-than-sopa.html)

愛
01-26-2012, 07:25 PM
Nah, global warming is a better issue to be fake scared of.

Cascadia
03-17-2012, 03:35 AM
While we successfully got SOPA and PIPA indefinitely put off, but while that was going on, it seems there has been a scheme of corporate and government greed going on behind the backs of the people... Many American ISPs (Internet Service Providers) have signed an agreement to prohibit their customers from possessing copyrighted material. On July 12, all participating ISPs are going to completely cut off the Internet for anyone believed to be in possession of copyrighted material, until these customers sign an agreement stating that they will not posses copyrighted material in the future.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/webnews/major-isps-turn-into-copyright-police-by-july-says-riaa/

This could still hurt The Technodrome forum.

BubblyShell22
03-17-2012, 09:07 AM
Well, isn't that a kick in the a**. If it happens, it happens. I guess we'll just have to live with it. It'll suck, but that's life for you. It always sucks.

TheCanadiandrome
03-17-2012, 05:30 PM
that would also affect illegal pirated sites as well no?

BubblyShell22
03-17-2012, 08:55 PM
Yes, it would.

TheCanadiandrome
03-18-2012, 09:30 PM
good then no more illegal PPV events being pirated. so if anyone wants to catch wrestling or MMA guess they'll have to pay like the rest of us

IamtheKnight
03-18-2012, 11:13 PM
Looks like there's a SOPA 2.0 in progress :http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/15/american-isps-to-launch-massive-copyright-spying-scheme-on-july-12/