View Full Version : What Kind of Season Finale Would You Prefer?
ZariusTwo
12-15-2011, 08:54 AM
A lot of CGI shows over the years have normally ended their seasons on cliffhangers, most recently Transformers Prime wrapped it's major plot threads but left something dangling. With the new TMNT approaching, do you think they will follow in the footsteps of Beast Wars and Reboot, or will they have a definate sense of closure like much of the original series and some of the 2003 show?
Would you PREFER a cliffhanger finale, or something that ties up the show in case it isnt a success?
Powder
12-15-2011, 09:09 AM
I don't mind if there isn't like, a cap off, but I would be annoyed if the show went bye-bye with loose ends.
The last episode for all I care could just be like any other self contained story as long as it's not a cliffhanger.
Us fans shouldn't have to finish EVERYTHING. :trazz:
Cowabunga Carl
12-15-2011, 09:55 AM
I'd like self contained seasons. Where each one answers the questions that it brought up. That way like Powder said us fans don't have to step up and finnish things.
CyberCubed
12-15-2011, 10:23 AM
The 4kids series ended with cliffhangers for Seasons 1, 2 and 4, and it worked out fine.
It was really only Season 3 and 5's finale that felt like a "stopping point."
cryan
12-15-2011, 10:54 AM
Yeah,that was what happened with the Saturday morning version of Sonic The Hedgehog.DIC ended the series on a cliffhanger and then it was cancelled.I hope this doesn't happen to the new TMNT series.
I'd prefer it given closure, at least on Season 5, to give it a more poetic feel. But, I want it given the dignity of a live-action show, which is fairly unlikely. So, I'm mentally ready for all the disappointment Nick can provide.
Cowabunga Carl
12-15-2011, 11:32 AM
See I'm kind of thinking that this will be done along the lnes of Kung-fu Panda and Penguins of Madagascar. I have a feeling each show will be very episodic with little connecting form episode to episode. So over all as much as I would like a series long storyline I don't think we will get that. As such a season finale will probably feel like the other episodes of the season.
pannoni1
12-15-2011, 07:35 PM
I feel how a season should end would be based upon how successful the show is doing at that point. Season 1 however I would end with a "stopping point", similar to a "Shredder & Splintered" or "Return of the Technodrome", where Shredder & co. simply exile and appear to be gone, but a good fan knows that they will be back and weren't physically destroyed like Dregg at the end of the original series or Shredder at the end of Season 3 in the 4kids series. If a show is a rating success, a cliffhanger I would would like to see is one where the turtles really look to be in DEEP trouble about to surrender to the Foot with a hopeless-looking plot, only in the following season for some miracle by perhaps a new character (Casey Jones, Splinter's son ala Luke Skywalker-type hero) that seemingly comes out of nowhere.
An alternative cliffhanger finale would be if it was related to an animated movie which would take place following the finale. Here, we could have a scene where the Turtles escape to another dimension or the Foot gets some new villains and at the commercial break following the episode, the movie trailer premiers, which would be a sure way to generate some good promo.
If the ratings are getting low, then I would just write a finale that could end the series (foot is destroyed, or simply all evil banishes with all surviving villains that could make for an epic final battle). The episodes besides the premiere and finale can be as episodic as they wish, save for a few exceptions (a la OT).
BubblyShell22
12-16-2011, 09:39 AM
For a season finale (providing the show does well in ratings and gets slated for another season) I would definitely love a cliffhanger. I really liked it when the 2K3 show did that because it kept us wanting more and seeing what would happen. If it's a series finale, I'd rather it end with some sort of closure.
Andrew NDB
12-16-2011, 10:02 AM
It should end with Raphael throwing the beehive at the TV screen, cut to black.
PAAATE
12-16-2011, 10:31 AM
Cliffhangers forever!
Well, not forever, I want the show to end with closure :P
But I love cliffhangers. I've always loved cliffhangers. Although it's important that there is a season arc that can be wrapped up too. Just something to give a slight feel of closure.
I'll once again compare it to Avatar: The Last Airbender. Spoiler-alert for those who haven't seen it (which you really should).
First season closure: Aang mastered waterbending and they saved the Northern Water Tribe from the attack.
First season cliffhanger: Oh, the Fire Lord just kinda sent out Azula to find the Avatar, which would probably mean that she is even more bad-ass than Zuko.
Second season closure: The Fire Nation conquered Ba Sing Se and the Earth King was overthrown (sure, it doesn't end on a positive note, but that's still closure). Oh, and Aang mastered earthbending.
Second season cliffhanger: Zuko chose to side with Azula instead of Iroh. **** him!
And then, of course, the third season just had closure. There was just one loose thread still dangling and apparently the creators wanted it that way. But that loose thread will be resolved in the upcoming comic books, so whatever.
That's the way I like it.
oldmanwinters
12-16-2011, 11:01 AM
It should end with Raphael throwing the beehive at the TV screen, cut to black.
That might actually amuse me. :twink:
Personally, I hope it doesn't end with the turtles being de-molecularized by an intergalatic transmat device. The thought of the series being cancelled early after a cliffhanger like that would bug me to no end.
MikeandRaph87
12-20-2011, 02:07 PM
I like the way Justice League did it. The production team never knew each season if it would be cancelled so they went all out and closed a storyline bit left it open for a possibility for more to come.
ZariusTwo
01-23-2012, 01:40 PM
I like the way Justice League did it. The production team never knew each season if it would be cancelled so they went all out and closed a storyline bit left it open for a possibility for more to come.
JL always knew what the final word on the characters futures would be whilst encouraging the viewer to use their imaginations for how those futures would come to be.
For example, Hawkgirl and Green Lantern don't get back together in the final season, yet we know from the existence of Warhawk in the future that they will, they just won't tell the viewer HOW.
JL also provides definitive closure on Batman's story, with the episode "Epilouge" intended to be viewed for the audience as the last story in the whole DCAU catalouge.
Kendamu
01-23-2012, 02:06 PM
B-but I thought you've always been a huge fan of the Turtles cartoons!
Drose18
04-07-2012, 07:14 AM
The finale should have the turtles hugging at the end, then it pans out of the sewers, out of new york, and into space where it shows triceratons.
Killer Moth
04-07-2012, 01:19 PM
It should end with Raphael throwing the beehive at the TV screen, cut to black.
No, no, he should do what Elvis did:
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I tend to dislike season finale cliffhangers, anymore, mainly as it brings too much hype and incredibly high expectations for the corresponding season premiere. Because, if the payoff isn't as awesome as the season finale's set-up, cue outrage and backlash. Blame years of watching "Alias," as its overuse of cliffhangers have ruined them for me, even on animation shows.
(A beehive? Why a bee..., never mind, I don't want to know.)
No matter how much of a success it is (or isn't), I'd be fine if the season ended with the turtles standing on a random rooftop talking about their latest adventure, then hearing some big criminal racket below and jumping collectively to thwart it, freeze-framing on mid-leap.
Jester
04-07-2012, 10:50 PM
No matter how much of a success it is (or isn't), I'd be fine if the season ended with the turtles standing on a random rooftop talking about their latest adventure, then hearing some big criminal racket below and jumping collectively to thwart it, freeze-framing on mid-leap.
You mean like this:
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You mean like this:
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Well, maybe something more like this:
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Chris
04-08-2012, 05:01 PM
I'm fine with cliff hangers so long as they know they're getting another season. There's nothing I hate more (in TV) than shows ending a season on a cliff hanger and then getting cancelled. If they don't know they're getting another season they should wrap things up. They can always do more if they do get picked up after the season has ended, no one's saying they should kill Shredder if they don't get a second season pick up before they start making the season one finale (though that in itself would open up some interesting new directions for the show) - just make sure all the plot lines are resolved with at least some degree of conclusion.
A good example of this is the later series of 2k3. Whilst not resolving everything, all ended with a solid conclusion (like Day of Awakening and Wedding Bells and Bytes). Sure there were plans for more (FF Season 2, The Shredder Wars) but even though those plans never made it to the screen, the story arcs still felt pretty much concluded. Imagine how angry fans would have been if BTTS ended on a cliff hanger with the start of The Shredder Wars and then never got a concluding season.
Didn't one of the presentation slides from Toy Fair say that Nick was committed for 2 or 3 seasons? If that's the case then go nuts, have some great cliff hangers, but they need to make sure they can conclude everything in a satisfying way at the end of that, anything that comes after is a bonus and should probably be done in 1 season arcs (like FF and BTTS) unless the show becomes a mega hit and they KNOW they're getting another season before they start production of the finale of the current season.
TurtleMaster4
04-09-2012, 11:05 AM
See I'm kind of thinking that this will be done along the lnes of Kung-fu Panda and Penguins of Madagascar. I have a feeling each show will be very episodic with little connecting form episode to episode. So over all as much as I would like a series long storyline I don't think we will get that. As such a season finale will probably feel like the other episodes of the season.
but this is the turtles were talking about man! Plus have you ever watched a couple episodes of avatar, they have each episode containing to one another!
i personally want want it to end with some thing like their main enemy are defeated, but really they're not. then the turtles party it out or some thing with pizza. but i don't want it to be like the turtles are surrounded by bad guys or get thrown off the ledge of an building and the screen randomly says....... to be continued
plus the thingy mer bob at at toy fair said they are committed to make new shows threw 2015, so lets hope they stick with that, and hope it dos't get cancelled.
Personally i don't think we have much to worry about!
TurtleTitan97
04-09-2012, 11:05 AM
I would like a season finale where we see a big battle between the Foot and the Turtles, ending with an epic fight between Splinter and Shredder, where Shredder is supposable killed during the fight by some accident, and at the end it shows he survived.
Zany Orange Dude
04-09-2012, 03:42 PM
I would like a season finale where we see a big battle between the Foot and the Turtles, ending with an epic fight between Splinter and Shredder, where Shredder is supposable killed during the fight by some accident, and at the end it shows he survived.
Reminds me of 2k3!:twink: But yes I must agree, I'd love to see an epic battle between the turtles and Splinter versus Shredder and the foot!:tcool:
tmnt transformer
04-09-2012, 05:39 PM
A epic final duel between Leo and the shredder would cool.
Jester
04-09-2012, 05:53 PM
I hope the Turtles are wearing their Ninja Battles in the finale.
PAAATE
04-10-2012, 01:47 AM
I hope the Turtles are wearing their Ninja Battles in the finale.
Hey, as long as they don't keep exploding the city. Could get old quick.
Drose18
04-10-2012, 06:05 AM
Hey, as long as they don't keep exploding the city. Could get old quick.
Hopefully they wont get locked in jail as the finale.
TMNT is cooler than MOTU
04-12-2012, 10:19 AM
I'd like it so that there's closure for the first season, but I obviously want things somewhat open for a second.
Jephael
04-12-2012, 01:43 PM
There's a good chance the show's not going to be cancelled after just a couple of seasons. If we've learned anything from the classic toon and the 4Kids series it's that the Ninja Turtles do have staying power! Keep in mind though that we're not the new show's demographic here, so the tone of it will rely heavily on how the writers precieve their target audience.
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