Which Are You Looking Forward To The Most The Dark Knight Rises or Amazing Spider-Man [Archive]

Koschei

12-24-2011, 09:50 AM

Prometheus more than either of them.

Amen!

Out of the 2 I went for Spidey. I'm really interested in the change of style and story. While I am more afraid of what Dark Knight Rises more turn out to be.

Don't really see the connection of hating a movie because a show was supposedly canceled for being related to a different movie that are the same franchise. But thats your opinion and I can respect that :)

What I really want is a 3D Pixar Spidey movie, that would so BOSS!

But yes, really looking forward to Prometheus. I'm a big Alien/Giger fan and ever since I was like 8 I've been interested in WTF that giant pilot was.

KROW

12-24-2011, 11:05 AM

Batman, for me. Though there are bits of DKR I do not like, there are more elements of Amazing that just turn me off.

What I really want is a 3D Pixar Spidey movie, that would so BOSS!

I'd rather see it done by ImageMovers.

ToTheNines

12-24-2011, 11:08 AM

Why would you hold that against the new movie? Seems dumb.

I'm holding it against Disney/Marvel for not continuing the series. I'm not trying to start some big revolutionary boycott, I just don't want to give them my money.

The Stryker

12-24-2011, 11:34 AM

Didn't that show get cancelled before the Disney biz?

Also nobody was really watching the show and it was being bungled around on a sh*tty timeslot/network. I don't think it was some giant conspiracy. Just another cancelled superhero show.

Still seems dumb.

Koschei

12-24-2011, 01:04 PM

[COLOR="yellow"]I'd rather see it done by ImageMovers.

Pixar always has good storyies and amazing action. As well as character development and style that captures any viewer. The only movie they've made that I don't care for his "Cars".

oldschoolturtlesfan

12-24-2011, 05:49 PM

Batman for me.

TheCanadiandrome

12-24-2011, 11:01 PM

Im eagerly awaiting the Avengers movie more. :P

^ ditto :tcool:

Mr._Mutant_Man

12-25-2011, 02:41 PM

Dark Knight Rises, but I'm open minded about Amazing Spider-Man. Spider-Man 1 and 2 were good, but just like Tim Burton's Batman, it isn't like they were so good that there isn't the possibility of improvement.

Cowabunga Carl

12-25-2011, 04:41 PM

If I could one see one of those two movies I'd have to go with Spiderman.

Don't get me wrong, Nolan has done a fantastic job so far as making Batman realistic but that also takes away from Batman for me. For me Batman needs to exist in a world were Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, and other hero's exist. Batman is dark but at the end he needs something to keep him from going to dark and I feel Nolan's Batman lacks that.

Even though Spider-man is a restarting of the franchise it looks like it is going to be what it should be, a fun exciting tale with both drama, comedy, angst, and lightheartedness. In the end it looks exactly like what Spider-man should be. Or at least that's how I feel.

Oh plus it looks like Bane will be a henchman again and he should never be treated that way. That's another big turn off for the new Batman film for me.

ToTheNines

12-25-2011, 07:07 PM

Oh plus it looks like Bane will be a henchman again and he should never be treated that way. That's another big turn off for the new Batman film for me.

How ya figure?

Cowabunga Carl

12-25-2011, 07:29 PM

From set reports of Tala being in the movie and Ra's being back. Bane seems to be their lackey. From set reports.

KROW

12-27-2011, 10:48 AM

Pixar always has good storyies and amazing action. As well as character development and style that captures any viewer. The only movie they've made that I don't care for his "Cars".

I disagree on the style factor. Where Pixar has a more sleek and cartoony way of doing things, ImageMovers offers a better realistic interpretation in texture and animation, right down to facial features. If Pixar did a Spider-Man film, it would seem more... plastic and toy-like. IM would give it a more-deserved treatment.

ZariusTwo

12-27-2011, 04:26 PM

Oh plus it looks like Bane will be a henchman again and he should never be treated that way. That's another big turn off for the new Batman film for me.

Clearly you never read the comics. Bane became a lackey to Ras and Talia in the 1990s, shortly after Azrael kicked his ass.

Spider-Man looks mediocre at best, looks like there going the overly angsty "Twilight" copycat route rather than indulge in the wise-cracks and fun of the comics, plus it has THE blandest love interest Peter's ever had in Gwen Stacy as the girlfriend. The only thing people remember Gwen for is her death and her far more interesting father. The Lizard is also too fantastical a choice for lead villain, at least for the first movie, I'd have preferred something more grounded for an early adventure like The Enforcers and The Big Man, or The Vulture.

If I could one see one of those two movies I'd have to go with Spiderman.

Don't get me wrong, Nolan has done a fantastic job so far as making Batman realistic but that also takes away from Batman for me. For me Batman needs to exist in a world were Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, and other hero's exist. Batman is dark but at the end he needs something to keep him from going to dark and I feel Nolan's Batman lacks that.

Nolan's movies lack drama-sapping moralfags, therefore it fails in your eyes? Riiigghhhhht.

There's a reason characters like Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, and Superman TANK in the eyes of the mainstream and Batman DOESNT, think long and hard as to why.

TigerClaw

12-27-2011, 10:06 PM

I'm looking forward to Prometheus. The Space Jockey from Alien has been one of the greatest cinematic mysteries since the 1st movie. This new film is kind of an Alien Prequel, Though it wont lead up to the first movie, But takes place in the same universe and will finally reveal of the origins of the Space Jock aliens, There won't be any Xenomorphs, but they say the last few minutes of the film might reveal where the Xenomorphs come from.

Fugitoid Jones

12-28-2011, 05:26 AM

I'm looking more forward to the Avengers than these 2 (and yes Prometheus looks rad), but of the 2 options, I'm going with DKR. I love Nolan's other 2 Batman entries, so I have faith that he'll deliver another solid movie, despite some of my initial reservations. Amazing Spider-Man, on the other hand, looks interesting and could be fun, but the fact that they are going back and telling the origin story AGAIN bothers me (same with the upcoming The Man Of Steel). Everybody knows Spider-Man's origin. If they want to touch up on it a little in this reboot, do what The Incredible Hulk did and do a quick recap during the opening credits. Done. Don't spend the first half of the movie telling us what we already know and have seen before.

Slap-Happy

12-28-2011, 01:08 PM

Spider-Man looks mediocre at best, looks like there going the overly angsty "Twilight" copycat route rather than indulge in the wise-cracks and fun of the comics,

People who saw SDCC footage said they were pleasantly surprised by the fact that there were a lot of wise cracks and jokes coming from Spidey.

MikeandRaph87

12-28-2011, 01:12 PM

Was it ever said why they decided to go with Gwen Stacey instead of the more traditional Mary Jane this time?

Slap-Happy

12-28-2011, 07:16 PM

Was it ever said why they decided to go with Gwen Stacey instead of the more traditional Mary Jane this time?
Probably to be a little more faithful to the comics (where Gwen appeared before Mary Jane), and trying to differentiate themselves from the Raimi films right off the bat.

ToTheNines

12-28-2011, 07:33 PM

Probably to be a little more faithful to the comics (where Gwen appeared before Mary Jane), and trying to differentiate themselves from the Raimi films right off the bat.

Yeah. I'd bet Mary Jane shows up eventually.

MikeandRaph87

12-28-2011, 07:50 PM

If Peter is in high school I would have thought Betty Brant if Mary Jane is not the go to gal. No dislike of Betty or Gwen I just like seeing him paired with Mary Jane who was girlfriend number three and the main love interest after Gwen's shock value death. I hope Gwen isn't used just for that in this new film series. I can see what you mean trying to set itself apart from Raimi's series. It has alot to live up to especially since we all thought we were getting a fourth installment instead of a reboot something I would have rather have seen than what we are getting.

Slap-Happy, not to be techical,but MJ did appear before Gwen. She was referenced as far back as ASM#15 and made a cameo in #25. Gwen appeared in #31 with Harry Osborn before Mary Jane's first full appearance in #42 and that date they decided to just be friends despite attraction.It was odd for them to bring Gwen in after the build up with Mary Jane that continued even after Gwen's first appearance.

Cowabunga Carl

12-28-2011, 09:15 PM

There's a reason characters like Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, and Superman TANK in the eyes of the mainstream and Batman DOESNT, think long and hard as to why.

Bane of the Demon is an excellent comic, but I wouldn't call Bane a lackey in that. The thing that makes Bane amazing is because he is self made. He can match Batman both physically and mentally, something we haven't see yet. That is why I'm against the idea of making Bane second fiddle.

As for why the other characters fail is because they don't get the respect of getting directors or writers that care. If people didn't care for them as you make it sound like then the comics would not be around nearly as long as they have been. Given a team that wants to see a good story told as opposed to a quick cash cow anything can succeed
.

Coola Yagami

12-28-2011, 09:49 PM

I'd take DKR. It's all new, and as much as the new Spiderman movie would want to be new and different, it would be too hard to not compare it to the first film. I also feel that since the first film did a great job on the comic book origin (most of it was almost straight from comic to big screen), the new movie will change things for the sake of changing things just so that it won't be too similar to the older movie.

At least the Batman movie will be an all-new plot. Sure we have seen Catwoman and Bane before... but Bane won't be a mute lackey for Drama-Ivy and Ah-nuld PUTDATCOOKIEDAOWN!! nor will Catwoman be bombing Walken's stores...

ZariusTwo

12-29-2011, 09:11 AM

If Peter is in high school I would have thought Betty Brant if Mary Jane is not the go to gal. No dislike of Betty or Gwen I just like seeing him paired with Mary Jane who was girlfriend number three and the main love interest after Gwen's shock value death..

I agree with the choice of Betty, she has that cool background with her corrupt brother which would work well in a movie.

Metropoliskid41

12-29-2011, 09:50 AM

Well I would like to say Batman, probably Batman, but am really disappointed with Darth Bane. I hate the mask, to me Bane's mask is so iconic, he is my favorite villain, and while I have no doubt that Nolan will nail his brains and characterization that fact that he looks so stupid (the mask to me looks like a cross between Hannibal Lector and Darth Vader) and that his voice is annoying in that mask is really gonna bother me. I want to like it, but like I said, imagine if they botched your favorite villian. The movie Batman & Robin sucked, Bane was a moron in it, but at least he looked right. I really don't see why they couldn't have made his mask much close to the iconic comic look.

As for Spider-Man I think it'll be enjoyable, I'm sure I'll like it, however not sure what route they're gonna take with it, it seems odd that J. Jonah Jameson won't be in it at all, how do you have a Spidey movie without Jameson and the Bugle actively involved? Guess time will tell :trazz:

I'm really looking forward to the Avengers movie and am actually pretty excited about Ghost Rider. In the trailer Christopher Lambert appears to be a cult leader and there is a clip where he's about to execute a kid by cutting off his head, I can't help but love that Highlander goodness :twink:

ZariusTwo

12-29-2011, 03:06 PM

I really don't see why they couldn't have made his mask much close to the iconic comic look:

Because he looks like a 'roided Power Ranger and the Nolan look actually makes him look less of a camp gimp and more "in-keeping" with the grit of Noland's movies?

Some comic book designs simply don't translate well to movie screens. Helps to learn that.

Rikirk

01-01-2012, 02:20 AM

I guess Ill have to choose Batman, cuz from what I hear this franchise will be rebooted...(why?) after this film.

But im more of a Spiderman fan than a batman fan, but this reboot looks like its gonna go all twilight on us..."sigh"
Ill still see it though.

Redeemer

01-02-2012, 11:55 PM

I gotta say DKR simply bc I have to see how it ends and I want to c if it tops the Dark Knight

MikeandRaph87

01-03-2012, 12:28 PM

I wonder if the results tilting heavily in favor of Batman:The Dark Knight Rises has anything to do with the fac that Spider-Man is suffering a reboot that will probably not be as good as the 2002 film?

ZariusTwo

01-03-2012, 12:38 PM

Honestly, the more I rewatch the Raimi movies, the more I realize how overrated and completly untrue to the characters they are.

Filespit

01-04-2012, 11:32 AM

MikeandRaph87

01-04-2012, 11:47 AM

Have to say The Dark Knight Rises here, simply because the previous movies were so amazing. Although I'm looking forward to Spidey as well, I simply don't that "wow-this-can-be-a-really-good-movie" feeling or whatever you're supposed to call it, but I'm keeping my hopes up. And I don't understand why they have to reboot the whole series.

The movie makers of Sony and the suits of Marvel disagreed on the villain of the film. Those involved in making Spider-Man 4 wanted the Vulture while the suits wanted The Lizard. They could not find middle ground and make a script with both The Lizard and the Vulture. The thought was Rami's group wanted Vulture but others thought an old man in a fly harness would be boring to the audience so the already established Curt Conners who Marvel wanted was to be the villain but production rejected it. So the disagreement over having The Lizard and The Vulture in the fourth film is why its reboot. Its a shame because it was such a great franchise with a couple of plots still dangling. They also had a similar disagreement over Venom and Sandman. We found a compromise and got both. I personally would rather have Venom and Lizard then Sandman and Vulture but that is just me.

shuriken

01-04-2012, 01:22 PM

The Dark knight Rises just because I want to see Nolan's "final chapter" so to speak. Not really too crazy about Spider-man but I'll check it out why not. I still think it would have been cool to call the movie Batman: Knightfall to go with the arc that Bane was introduced to, but that' just nitpicky. Anyway I really enjoyed Batman Begins and The Dark Knight so yeah I'll go with TDKR.

Filespit

01-04-2012, 06:07 PM

The movie makers of Sony and the suits of Marvel disagreed on the villain of the film. Those involved in making Spider-Man 4 wanted the Vulture while the suits wanted The Lizard. They could not find middle ground and make a script with both The Lizard and the Vulture. The thought was Rami's group wanted Vulture but others thought an old man in a fly harness would be boring to the audience so the already established Curt Conners who Marvel wanted was to be the villain but production rejected it. So the disagreement over having The Lizard and The Vulture in the fourth film is why its reboot. Its a shame because it was such a great franchise with a couple of plots still dangling. They also had a similar disagreement over Venom and Sandman. We found a compromise and got both. I personally would rather have Venom and Lizard then Sandman and Vulture but that is just me.
That makes sense, thanks for clearing that up. To be honest, based on what you said here I think rebooting it was a good idea. The Lizard isn't a villain for a fourth movie in my opinion, he should've been the villain of the first movie instead of Green Goblin.

Also, I think the big problem with Spider-Man 3 was the fact that it had both Sandman and Venom. In my opinion they should've stuck with just Sandman, as that character is way more interesting than Venom in that movie. I like the whole symbiote-thing in the movie though, but they should've skipped Venom as his inclusion just feels a bit panicked.

MikeandRaph87

01-04-2012, 06:33 PM

That makes sense, thanks for clearing that up. To be honest, based on what you said here I think rebooting it was a good idea. The Lizard isn't a villain for a fourth movie in my opinion, he should've been the villain of the first movie instead of Green Goblin.

Also, I think the big problem with Spider-Man 3 was the fact that it had both Sandman and Venom. In my opinion they should've stuck with just Sandman, as that character is way more interesting than Venom in that movie. I like the whole symbiote-thing in the movie though, but they should've skipped Venom as his inclusion just feels a bit panicked.

Not a problem. From what I read Venom was to appease Marvel and the fans while Rami and Macquire wanted Sandman. I see its a problem trying to fit everything in. Perhaps have Venom built up for the fourth. As for using The Lizard in the first I am skepical on that. It would have been more meaningful if he was Peter's professor and maybe advisor so having him in a fourth film would have made more sense than a rebooted first with Peter in high school the first time unless he is Peter's biology teacher or something. I admit its my favortism of certain villains playing into it and I think that is why Marvel pushed for Venom and Lizard opposed to the less interesting Sandman and Vulture.

There has been talk of a Venom spinoff movie,but it could be in development hell or readying for production I am not sure since I have not heard any details in the last year and a half.

Slap-Happy

01-05-2012, 03:34 AM

You seem mistaken. Marvel is not as directly involved as you think with the films. They weren't pushing for Venom, Sony was. And that's because fans wanted that character.

Also, as far as I know, there were no plans for the Lizard during the time when Spider-Man 4 was being planned. It was always the Vulture.

If I remember correctly, it's wasn't that Sony really wanted the Lizard, it's that they were having huge disagreements with Sam Raimi about the story.

They had other problems with where the story was going. There were things like Spidey having a kid, and Felicia Hardy becoming the Vultress, among other things.

Sony thought it was going too far and wanted him to change it, but Sam refused and insisted it would be fine. When Raimi wouldn't back down, he was either fired or he quit.

When Raimi was out, so were Tobey and Kirsten. Rather than make a sequel without the actors, they decided to just start over.

ZariusTwo

01-05-2012, 06:42 AM

I didnt know Raimi wanted Peter to have a kid...I heard a rumour he wanted Peter to kill The Vulture, but I have a hard time swallowing that one

Redeemer

01-21-2012, 01:24 PM

Honestly, the more I rewatch the Raimi movies, the more I realize how overrated and completly untrue to the characters they are.

Thank you.
I thought the 1st was a good movie B+
2nd- crappy and too much about crappy romance, I would mind the romance especially bc Peter and MJ romance is a key essential in the comic. D+
3rd- Venom was to freaknnnnnnn smmmaaallll!!!!!!!!!!!!! and Eddie Brock was punk....ugghhhh....... so annoying i like the villians they used. I even like the way they used Sandman, but the Venom thing killed me and then MJ and Peter were exactly were they left off.......

ZariusTwo

01-21-2012, 02:40 PM

2nd- crappy and too much about crappy romance, I would mind the romance especially bc Peter and MJ romance is a key essential in the comic. D+

The romance was handled very poorly, MJ is supposed to be, whilst a bit tomboyish, overall very loyal to Peter, in the movies she's just bitching him out at every oppertunity, it leaves the viewer wondering what Peter sees in her ro begin with. No wonder the theatres reportedly cheered when Peter hit her in Spider-Man 3

Redeemer

01-21-2012, 04:18 PM

The romance was handled very poorly, MJ is supposed to be, whilst a bit tomboyish, overall very loyal to Peter, in the movies she's just bitching him out at every oppertunity, it leaves the viewer wondering what Peter sees in her ro begin with. No wonder the theatres reportedly cheered when Peter hit her in Spider-Man 3

Thank you exactly my point. The romance would be good if it wasnt done so damn poorly

ZariusTwo

01-21-2012, 04:23 PM

To save themselves a LOT of grief dramaticly they should have had Gwen Stacy in the first movie from the onset so they could "protect" MJ's image and give the sensetive crybaby routine to Gwen (because that's all she did in the comics), at least this new reboot film is getting it right...if Gwen acts all needy and whiny at least it's HER doing it and not someone who's supposed to be the strongest woman in Peter's life.

NameGoesHere1066

01-23-2012, 11:07 AM

I'm looking foward to batman. I like Spiderman but I tend to get annoyed while watching it. Especially with the female characters, **cough MaryJane**

ZariusTwo

01-23-2012, 12:05 PM

I'm looking foward to batman. I like Spiderman but I tend to get annoyed while watching it. Especially with the female characters, **cough MaryJane**

Sad isnt it? The comics Mary Jane is far more lovable (at least she is when handled correctly by either Stan Lee, Peter David, or Tom DeFalco), but show the casual shmuck the Raimi movies and they'll leave with a bitter impression of her altogether.

Sage Ninja

01-24-2012, 11:44 AM

I thought Mary Jane was better in the 90's cartoon but even then a few times I wanted to just slap her. I can't remember if this was real Mary Jane or just a clone but something I saw on youtube reminded me of how MJ could annoy me.

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and this was supposed to be romantic. :-?

I never watched the spider movies but MJ was annoying enough to make the Nostalgic Critic's 11 most dumbass's in Distress list, and he specificaly based it off the movies version of Mary Jane.

A little *too* Raph

01-24-2012, 02:17 PM

The Dark Knight Rises, because TDK is one of my favorite movies and I went to the TDKR filming at Hines Field :)

ZariusTwo

01-24-2012, 02:38 PM

I can't remember if this was real Mary Jane or just a clone

That's the clone. The real MJ never returned after she fell into that time/space wormhole at the end of season three. There were plans to have her return had the series continued, but it reached the magic number of syndication (65) and ended with Spidey searching for her.

Personally I just pretend the whole final season never happened

Jelly Bean

01-25-2012, 11:19 AM

I guess Ill have to choose Batman, cuz from what I hear this franchise will be rebooted...(why?) after this film.

why reboot it when they can just continue on with the Nolan series. I really adore the Nolan series. There are villians I really want to see that haven't used yet in a Nolan-esch way.

I wonder if they could ever do a Batman Beyond with Terry Miginnus in the future type of movie. I think that would be better than yet another reboot. or is Batman Befond only in the DCAU?

gobo

01-25-2012, 06:00 PM

Which Film Are You Looking Forward To More The Dark Knight Rises or AmazingSpider-Man
Not Batsh*t. I promise you that.

AquaParade

01-25-2012, 06:07 PM

Had to go with the Dark Knight Rises. Spider-man was my favorite comic-book hero growing up ( tmnt excluded, as they are not hero's in my book ;] ), but the Dark Knight has slowly tugged the rope away from Spidey as the years go on - He just gets way better treatment! The animated series, "The Dark Knight",
Arkham Asylum/City. Hard for Spidey to compete.

MoreCowbell5263

01-25-2012, 06:17 PM

The Avengers

ZariusTwo

01-26-2012, 05:35 AM

Not Batsh*t. I promise you that.

Good thing you're in a minority isnt it?

And when did you confuse me for the OP?

gobo

01-26-2012, 11:30 AM

Good thing you're in a minority isnt it??
Why would that be a good thing? :-?
And when did you confuse me for the OP?
Probably around the time that I quoted said question. :nod: You were the first post on the page. I didn't notice I wasn't on the first page though. My mistake...

AleXviD

01-27-2012, 03:31 AM

I always liked Batman and Spider-Man of all superheroes (that is, if you count Batman as superhero and don’t count Wolverine and Spawn as heroes at all), so in theory I should eagerly wait both. But for some reason they aren't on my 20 Most Wanted Things of the Year list. Of course I'll watch both at some point, so I really hope that Nolan's story will make up for visually uninterested villains (Bane's mask and Hathaway presence - ouch!) and that this decade's Spider-Man will do without Raimi style snot).

Warhorse

02-01-2012, 11:36 PM

The Avengers and The Hobbit I am most anticipating.

Dane E5R

02-03-2012, 08:05 PM

Of these two movies, I'm more looking forward to The Dark Knight Rises. As much as I don't care for the way Bane and Catwoman look, I hate the new Spider-Man costume easily 20x more. Raimi translated that suit beautifully; Webb's costume is an overly complicated, unnecessarily modified, basketball-looking eyesore.