Sherlock

[ZariusTwo]

To Hell and Baskerville with your Robert Downey Jr version, January 1st 2012 sees the return of Benedict Cumberbatch's incredible performance as the BBC's very own Sherlock Holmes in three new telefilms based on Doyle classics "A Scandal In Bohemia", "The Hound of the Baskervilles" and "The Final Problem"

When last we left Holmes, he was engaged in a fateful face-off with his arch nemesis Jim Moriarty, the first telefilm will pick up on the cliffhanger and throw Holmes into another iconic encounter, this time with "THE Woman" Irene Adler

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[AT-Man]

Oh man, oh god, oh man! http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/1836-this-thread-is-the-best.jpg

[Raph's Girl]

Wooh!! Can't wait! Lara Pulver rox!!!

[AT-Man]

The new episode was pretty much effing awesome. Too bad only two of them left :tsad:

[Roseangelo]

Saw it. It was pretty awesome.

[Donnie]

Loved it. A truly awesome film!

[ZariusTwo]

Loved this, though I wish they'd stop overomantizing the Holmes/Adler relationship. Doyle never intended it for that. At least they kept Holmes' feelings for her ambigious and not have him outright state anything.

Microft is sick in the head. Loved that Moriarty blew a raspberry at Big Ben when he found out about the Jumbo Jet.

Holmes trolling his dinner guests backfired on him when he found out Molly had dolled herself up for him and left him a present

[ZariusTwo]

Decent action romp this week. Very Resident Evil. The CG Hounds were a bit cheesy, I prefer the idea they were the result of halluncinagenics much better.


Moriarty was in prison...how'd that happen? Must have been because Irene Adler named him in her confrontation with Sherlock and Mycroft last week

[AT-Man]

Decent action romp this week. Very Resident Evil. The CG Hounds were a bit cheesy, I prefer the idea they were the result of halluncinagenics much better.


Moriarty was in prison...how'd that happen? Must have been because Irene Adler named him in her confrontation with Sherlock and Mycroft last week


I'm pretty sure the CG dog was just a hallucination, but there was a real dog "inside". CG was cheesy yes, but it doesn't matter if in the film it's not supposed to be real anyway. The ending was confusing and I hope they don't leave the explanation to season 3, if there is to be one.

[Hero]

This weekends offering will be epic. Anyone who has read or seen previous adaptations of The Final Problem may well like this upcoming episode.

[ZariusTwo]

That was a great finale, loved that "The Final Problem" was "Stayin' Alive":lol:

Alas, it's the end of the road for both Moriarty and our current status quoe, not sure how next season will turn out now that Sherlock's been disgraced. Taking cases anoumously perhaps?

I have no doubt Molly and Mycroft had a hand in helping Sherlock survive his "suicide"

[Raph's Girl]

Alas, it's the end of the road for both Moriarty and our current status quoe, not sure how next season will turn out now that Sherlock's been disgraced. Taking cases anoumously perhaps?


Either way Moffat DID confirm there'll be a 3rd season today on twitter....

[ZariusTwo]

Reading up further on this in a newspaper today and it's been confirmed they have already filmed the explanation for how Sherlock faked his death, but it will obviously air as part of the third season.

In other news, it seems the States are getting their own modern day Sherlock Holmes series called "Elementary"...good luck with that:lol:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s129/sherlock/news/a361398/sherlock-executive-sue-vertue-extremely-worried-by-elementary.html

[ZariusTwo]

Pre-production of series three started this week, with filming set to begin next month.

[AT-Man]

Crap! I thought it could air any day now :tsad:

[ZariusTwo]

We have our full episode list for series three

1. The Empty Hearse
2. The Sign of Three
3. His Last Vow

[Hero]

Sign of Three (Four) is the only episode title that rings a bell for me :). I've no idea what the other two are based on. :)

[ZariusTwo]

Sign of Three (Four) is the only episode title that rings a bell for me :). I've no idea what the other two are based on. :)

"Empty Hearse"=Empty House, the story where Sherlock returned from the reichenbach fall and revealed himself to the world and Watson again. I've heard it greatly differs from the source material though

"His Last Vow"=His Last Bow, the last chronological Sherlock story in the canon, he retires afterwards. It was a propaganda peice set against the backdrop of a world war, so it's obviously going to differ here as well

[Cowabunga Carl]

I am so excited to know that there is going to be another season. This and Dr. Who are the only reasons to get BBC America.

[ZariusTwo]

We have a new villian for series three. The 'King of Blackmailers' Charles Augustus Magnussen, played by Lars Mikkelson

http://cultfix.co.uk/sherlock-series-3-villain-revealed-23454.htm

[ZariusTwo]

There's to be something special at the end of tonight's UK tv repeat of the series two finale. Possible teaser trailer perhaps?

http://cdn-static.denofgeek.com/sites/denofgeek/files/styles/insert_main_wide_image/public/sherlock_repeat.jpg

[ZariusTwo]

Trailer time!

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[ZariusTwo]

We have an airdate for series three in the U.S: January 19th!

Here's some promotional pics in the meantime

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-10-23/sherlock-series-3-benedict-cumberbatch-and-martin-freeman-star-in-new-picture-and-artwork

[Raph's Girl]

There is now an official airdate for the UK airing: Series 3 premiers January 1st, 2014 with episode 2 on Jan 5th and episode 3 on Jan 12th.

http://www.cultbox.co.uk/news/headlines/8613-sherlock-series-3-start-date-confirmed

[ZariusTwo]

The provisional New Years Day schedule from BBC ONE indicates Sherlock will premiere at 9:00PM

[ZariusTwo]

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New trailer

[Shark_Blade]

Mrs Hudson's screaming is Sherlock fandom's reaction right now. :P

[ZariusTwo]

"Empty Hearse" was great, although I do feel the case took a complete backseat this time in favor of rebuilding the characters, and the ending had an amusing yet weak resolution, everything else about the story clicked though.

Lots of theories as to how Sherlock survived, incluidng a tumblr-imploding yaoi moment between Sherlock and Moriarty. :lol:

Holmes gives Anderson an answer near the end, but since in the previous scene he had just lied to John about being unable to defuse a bomb, you don't neccersarily have to beleive him. The moral of the story is "What's in your head is nearly always better than what you end up getting", so let's just focus on the here and now.

There's more from John insisting he's not gay (and now has a fiance to prove it), Sherlock taking Molly out to spend a day with him, only to find she's engaged to someone who is clearly more a stand-in for Sherlock than an attempt to move on by Sherlock's number one fan...and Lestrade ended up hugging Sherlock. Bless.

Sherlock and Mycroft play Operation instead of Chess:lol:

We also finally meet Sherlock's parents, played by Benedict Cumberbatch's real parents

[Cudley The Cowlick]

Living in the US, it seems I have to wait for the PBS airing (Jan 19th). Sure, I could Torrent it, but I always try so hard to avoid that route.

I can't flipping wait! Was it worth the 2 year hiatus?

[ZariusTwo]

I can't flipping wait! Was it worth the 2 year hiatus?

9 Million viewers strong says it was.:)

[Cudley The Cowlick]

9 Million viewers strong says it was.:)

Awwwwww yeah. 9 million sounds crazy.
I'm trying so hard to avoid reviews/spoilers, but my heart will go on if I stumble into a den of Sherlock chatter.

[ZariusTwo]

I'm trying so hard to avoid reviews/spoilers, but my heart will go on if I stumble into a den of Sherlock chatter.

Heh, good luck with that, it can be a landmine if you go anywhere near tumblr.:)

[ZariusTwo]

"The Sign of Three"

That was bloody brilliant...although I called that the photographer was the assasin as soon as Sherlock raised the glass and he snapped a shot (it's also far too easily telegraphed in the flashbacks). I was more interested in the method of the killer, which did inform and surprise me. Love that all the disconnected cases blended together in the end

The baby deduction was unexpected, Lestrade kicking his car during the Dark Knight-esque heist investigation and his own attempts at a theory at the reception were very cute, the poison giant and the elephant in the room...rofl...

I liked also that they made the girl Janine a very likeable and carefree 'date' for Sherlock, sadly she ends up with someone else at the end of the ep.

Love also that Molly's fiance is clearly just meat to her, although I feel bad for him too in a way. He just doesnt match up to Sherlock. In a way, there are paralels to Mrs. Hudson's story about only marrying her husband for the sex.

About the only thing I thought dragged were the drunken Sherlock and John segment of the Mayfly case. It'll probably grow on me later, but I just didnt find this portion funny in the slightest.

Did'nt expect the cameo from Adler in the mind palace

[ZariusTwo]

"His Last Vow"

Turns out I was right, to a point, about Sherlock getting engaged being kept from the original Milverton/Magnusen story, if only breifly, and he paid the price for it later with Janine milking it in the tabloids. She came across as very likeable throughout their falling out at the hospital, once again Sherlock forfiets a suitable match for him all in the need of work.

It's really quite odd to see Sherlock shift back to his sociopaththic and barely social ways after seeing such strives to be humanised in the last two episodes, but all the better for the pacing of the story. John posing as the 'dummy' was riveting, although I wish there had been more ire from him directed at Mary, and I didnt feel like Mary's darker side was exploited. After she shoots Sherlock she just sort of becomes a charity case and that's that.

Molly had a good turn as the mind palace representive when Sherlock was shot and instructing him on what to do...shows that when it counts, the woman who counted is always there to guide Holmes through a trauma. Perfect way of reminding us Sherlock keeps her in his thoughts. Love also that one of Sherlock's hiding places is her bedroom.

Mind palaces are not exclusive to Mr. Holmes. Great twist there. And I totally do the face flick thing sometimes...to myself in fits of boredom anyway, not to other people

Loved the reference to the "Empty House" with Sherlock's honey trap for Mary, and the bee keeping line from Janine gives us our nod to "His Last Bow".

So despite the dark content and Sherlock's dark turn at the end, all is forgiven because...well...we all missed Jim didnt we?

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

The ending of 'The Last vow' makes complete sense, with Sherlock
killing Magnussen. If he was still alive, there would be no way of stopping him from black mailing people. Killing him was the only way to stop him.

Overall, i really liked that episode. Can't wait for more.

[AT-Man]

Heck yeah, that might have even been the best episode yet! I thought first that Sherlock would have somehow given John's gun to Magnussen, thus it would seem like to the police that he is pointing it at them and then the police would have a reason to shoot him dead. Really interested to see what's gonna happen in the next season, but I hope the wait won't be another two years.

[ZariusTwo]

The BBC are rumored to be wanting the show fast-tracked back into production so it can return by Christmas, but we'll see how it pans out

[ZariusTwo]

Filming of the 2015 Christmas special begins tomorrow:)

[AT-Man]

Is the Christmas special the first episode of a new season or just a separate episode?

[ZariusTwo]

Is the Christmas special the first episode of a new season or just a separate episode?

They're calling it a one-shot, though the fourth series won't be far behind it

[ZariusTwo]

Moffat talks about Series Four in EW Magazine

"Consequences. It’s dark. Bloody frightening. An emotional upheaval. Intense. A tougher series. Obviously it’s still great fun and a Sherlock Holmes romp and all that. But there’s…things…coming back to bite you."

[ZariusTwo]

http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt132/DoctorWoodAdventures/CJbWdPmWsAEHwM9.png

[Raph's Girl]

OOoh... the Sherlock christmas special is gonna get a limited theatrical run! Doubt it'll come here tho. But hey! We get a clip! It's set in Victorian times for some reason and the fact that Watson writes the Holmes stories is mentioned! Awesome!

Sherlock: "Im hardly in the dog one...."
Watson: "The dog one? You mean Hound of the Baskervilles??"

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http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2015/07/09/sdcc-sherlock-christmas-special-gets-theatrical-release/

[ZariusTwo]

Love all the meta digs.

"The illustrator is out of control, I've had to grow the mustache so people will recognize me":lol:

[NinjaPug]

Victorian special will air in the US and UK on January 1, 2016

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[cookie jar]

Thanks for the info. :)

[ZariusTwo]

The usual start date for Sherlock then. Great thing is, by the time 2017 comes along, the proper new series will begin on the same date:)

Title is very Who-esque too

[Raph's Girl]

The special airing on January 1st will be playing in THEATRES Jan 5th and Jan 6th. Tickets go on Sale Nov 6th and is expected to be in at least 500 theatres in the U.S. (article doesn't say about UK theatres tho)

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/10/26/sherlock-theaters

[ZariusTwo]

A throwback tale for Sherlock turns into mid-way into a "hard drive crash" for the character, constantly flip-flopping between present and vintage eras and being frustrated by failure on both ends, ultimately indulging in a seven percent solution to bring himself some clarity...and boy does he have some frightful thoughts about Molly in that mind of his.
Mycroft being all Jabba the Hutt though...rofl

[cookie jar]

Linking the episode into the main storyline was cleverly done. I'm excited to see what direction the stories will take in season 4.

[ZariusTwo]

https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/sherlock-first-look.jpg


Filming of series four has begun, and in the directors chair is The Flash's Rachel Talalay,, who's also no stranger to Moffat productions as she's directed the 2014 and 2015 Doctor Who season finales.

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/sherlock-director-woman-first-time-1201747091/

Moffat on series four, which deals with John and Mary becoming parents:

“Whatever else we do, wherever we all go, all roads lead back to Baker Street — and it always feels like coming home. Ghosts of the past are rising in the lives of Sherlock Holmes and John Watson bringing adventure, romance and terror in their wake. This is the story we’ve been telling from the beginning. A story about to reach its climax…”

[ZariusTwo]

And Cumberbatch is back!


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cfx-bTfWQAAgsjG.jpg

[NinjaPug]

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[ZariusTwo]

Good trailer, Mrs. Hudson getting particularity venomous..

...But I thought Sherlock thought that Moriarty was dead "without question" at the end of the Abominable Bride...now he's questioning it again

[ZariusTwo]

First two episodes of series four: The Six Thatchers and The Lying Detective

http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/tv/sherlock/34751/sherlock-series-4-first-2-episode-titles-revealed

[BubblyShell22]

I saw an ad on BBCA for Sherlock season two that starts airing October third. This is good news for me since I can finally watch this series and start to see what this is all about. I wish it was season one, but oh well.

[ZariusTwo]

I saw an ad on BBCA for Sherlock season two that starts airing October third. This is good news for me since I can finally watch this series and start to see what this is all about. I wish it was season one, but oh well.

Strange how it's not series one...especially when series two opens with a resolution to the cliffhanger from that. The first series finale is even when they properly introduce Moriarty!

[Shark_Blade]

Waiting for the blu Ray. :)

[Commenter 42]

I love this show. I loved the Abominable bride. I love it all.

See, I'm not just a hater. See ma? SEE??

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I love this show. I loved the Abominable bride. I love it all.

See, I'm not just a hater. See ma? SEE??

Your mother remains unconvinced.

As do I.

[Commenter 42]

Your mother remains unconvinced.

As do I.


Ma never really understood me.

Top o' the list right now;

Sherlock (when it comes back)
Black Mirror (Oct)
Atlanta (Now)
AHS (Now)
Tyrant (catching up)

[BubblyShell22]

Yeah, I don't get it either, Zar, but I'll just go with it and watch it anyway.

[BubblyShell22]

So, they showed three episode of season one before the season 2 premiere which was why I wasn't online in the afternoon. I have to say I love this show and think it's just awesome with everything that they showed. I will definitely continue watching whenever it's on BBCA. Just wish my local PBS station would show it, but they never have from what I've seen. Such a shame.

[ZariusTwo]

Great to hear they showed the first season and that you had a good time with it Bubbly. Won't take you long to catch up.

[BubblyShell22]

Well, as I said, they only showed three episodes of the first season so I don't think it was the whole thing unless there are only three episodes per season and I don't believe that's the case. Either way, I'm eager to be watching the show and to see what else happens. So glad I have discovered it even if it is a bit late.

[ZariusTwo]

Well, as I said, they only showed three episodes of the first season so I don't think it was the whole thing unless there are only three episodes per season and I don't believe that's the case..

No, you saw the entire first season Bubbly. Each series of Sherlock is just three episodes.

[Shark_Blade]

Saw 'The Abominable Bride' recently. Absolutely amazing.

I love the little easter egg details that are easily overlooked by casuals - like the snide dig at how Mrs Hudson were not given any substance or lines in The Strand Magazine back in the day. How I laughed. Moffats and Gratiss are true fans and this show is truly a gift. :tlove: Couldn't be happier.

[ZariusTwo]

Cumberbatch feels Sherlock has reached a point where it is "complete", indicating further that series four will be the last, at least for the foreseeable future due to the busy schedule of him and Freeman

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/sherlock/news/a809821/sherlock-ending-benedict-cumberbatch-says-the-show-feels-very-complete-after-series-4/

[BubblyShell22]

No, you saw the entire first season Bubbly. Each series of Sherlock is just three episodes.

Ah, I see. Well, I kind of wish there were more episodes so it could last longer, but I'll take what I can get. Then again, each episode is two hours long, so it definitely feels as though you're going through two episodes instead of just one.

[Shark_Blade]

Cumberbatch feels Sherlock has reached a point where it is "complete", indicating further that series four will be the last, at least for the foreseeable future due to the busy schedule of him and Freeman

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/sherlock/news/a809821/sherlock-ending-benedict-cumberbatch-says-the-show-feels-very-complete-after-series-4/

All good things come to an end I suppose. It's been a real pleasure though, this series is amazing. :)

[BubblyShell22]

Well, Benedict has been successful in movies too so he probably wants to focus on making more movies, and that's fine. Sometimes the end is the best thing if someone feels they have done what they needed to do. But the show could still continue on without him if Moffat wants it to.

[ZariusTwo]

It was confirmed yesterday the new series airs on both BBC ONE and PBS Masterpiece on January 1st.

[BubblyShell22]

Yeah, I'll probably have to wait for this to air on BBCA. I do get two PBS channels on local stations, but I have never seen Sherlock listed there.

[ZariusTwo]

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[ZariusTwo]

Sitting down later with assembled press, a cautious Cumberbatch has learnt by now to give little away ("Sherlock's lost his razor," he quips, when someone enquires about his scruff) – but hints at a dark turn for our hero.

"If you were to put him in a psychiatrist's chair… You're faced with someone who's in a lot of trouble," he says, before referring back to the character's drug-induced hallucinations in last year's 'The Abominable Bride'. "If what we've seen before is an unravelling, then it's a drop in the ocean compared to what's to come."

"Without giving anything away, this is about as tough a journey as he goes on," Sherlock writer Steven Moffat tells us. "Sherlock and John both, actually. This is about as difficult as it gets for them. They kind of go to hell and back this time."

So who's bringing the pain? The chief suspect would appear to be Toby Jones, playing "one of [Arthur Conan] Doyle's finest villains", Culverton Smith.

"If it's possible to be even more creepy than Moriarty, he gives him a good run for his money," grins Martin Freeman, sporting a slick new haircut as John Watson. "He's pretty odious!"

"I hope Toby doesn't mind me saying, but he's a little man... and Benedict looms over him," adds Moffat. "But he does weirdly somehow give an impression of a genuine physical threat. There is something he can do, in his compact way, that evokes an extraordinary amount of menace."

Whoever or whatever the cause, we're promised cataclysmic shifts in Sherlock this time round – lasting change – and we're not just talking about John and Mary (Amanda Abbington) having a baby.

"It would be a very different show... and a much easier show in so many ways, if people never developed," admits co-writer Mark Gatiss. "Which of course has been the way with several versions before – Sherlock Holmes barely changes from one series to the next, and Dr Watson spends the whole time being astonished.

"It's obviously much more straightforward and also quite comforting. But with three films every couple of years, you've got to go somewhere."

"It's always better, when you're doing something you're familiar with or think you know, when you just have everything ripped from underneath you," echoes Cumberbatch. "It's just more challenging, more fun and more interesting – selfishly, but also I think for an audience.

"It's important to keep it fresh – to do stuff that we haven't done before." He pauses, then adds firmly: "There is no point coming back just to tick boxes."

Freeman too is excited by the developments to come, though admits, rather candidly, that change can be difficult for fans who've become attached to the way things are.

"The loyalty we have is pretty strong, and so it does give us licence to shape-shift a little bit," he says. "I hope people look forward to what we will do with it. But... when you become successful, people – without being unkind – basically want you to die.

"They wanted me to die and just stay as Tim from The Office, and that's it. But if I do something else like Tim from The Office, I'm a lazy bastard. So you have to negotiate those waters very carefully, and patiently, and understand that people are quite demanding."

With all this talk of sweeping change and devastating darkness, we decide it's time to address the elephant in the room. "A story about to reach its climax," we say to Moffat and Gatiss, repeating their own foreboding series tag back at them. "Care to elaborate?"

"There are a number of threads we've been running through this," Moffat nods. "Some of which people have noticed, very obviously, and, oddly enough, some of which nobody's picked up on at all. But yes, there's quite a lot of stuff by the end of these three episodes that is properly resolved. There is going to be a proper climax, I guarantee you that."

Cumberbatch won't be drawn on rumours that this is the final series of Sherlock ("No comment!" he snaps, before breaking out into a cheeky grin) – but again, promises that we won't be disappointed with what's to come.

"There are a huge number of pay-offs in this series," he says. "I think, in the past, you could get away with watching a few episodes in isolation, but this... they're vine branches in the jungle of Sherlock, you have to keep swinging from one to the next to really understand. And really... the pay-offs are massive if you do."

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/sherlock/feature/a817591/on-set-for-sherlock-series-4-with-benedict-cumberbatch-spoilers/

Awkward TV incoming, as Martin Freeman has split with Amanda Abbington after fifteen years. Amanda's interview hints there will be marital problems between the characters in this series as well

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/22/martin-freeman-amanda-abbington-split-reveals-weird-real-life/

[Shark_Blade]

I'm sure they can handle it professionally despite the divorce. Can't wait for this new series!

[ZariusTwo]

I'm sure they can handle it professionally despite the divorce.

They were never married

[Shark_Blade]

I thought they did omigosh :teek:

[ZariusTwo]

According to Radio Times, there's a post-credits scene attached to "The Six Thatchers", here's their review

On Monday evening, slightly less than a fortnight before it's due to air on New Year's Day on BBC1, an assembled group of press, BBC bigwigs, celebrities and the occasional politician sat down to watch The Six Thatchers, the first episode of Sherlock for a year and the opener to a new three-part series.

More than ever, there is a real determination to ensure that key plot points do not leak out ahead of broadcast. Before the screening, BBC director-general Tony Hall asked everyone in the audience to avoid sharing spoilers.

Then Sherlock creators Mark Gatiss and Steven Moffat got up on stage to do the same. Twice. They did it again during the Q&A afterwards. There may or may not have been death threats attached. So you definitely won't find any major spoilers here. But I can provide a general view on the episode and tell you a few things that will give you a flavour of what to expect.

First up, how good is it?

Is it better than the previous one, last year's Victorian-Life-On-Mars-it-was-all-a-dream story? Definitely. Is it the best Sherlock ever? No, it's no Reichenbach Fall. It doesn't have quite the clever twists and turns of the series two finale, or the hypnotically intense relationship between Sherlock and Moriarty at its core. But is it good Sherlock? Certainly. And it should have enough to keep both general viewers and fan boys/girls engaged on the first evening of the new year – even if some of the story may be dark enough to make you wonder if it's still 2016.

It's no secret that John and Mary are now proud parents of a baby daughter called Rosamund (they posted the announcement in The Telegraph so I'm not taking the blame for that one) and we get to see them at home doing endearingly mundane baby stuff, and even a bit of Uncle Sherlock on babysitting duties.

There’s another funny bit with a dog, too. And there's heaps of action, including more on Mary’s backstory as a special operative and a great gritty Bond-style fight scene for Benedict Cumberbatch's Sherlock.

There's a Sherlock Holmes story fans of the originals will recognise, with a twist and lots of extras thrown in too, yet not so many that casual viewers will end up asking ‘what was that all about?’ like they did at the end of The Abominable Bride.

There are many mentions of Moriarty (try saying that five times fast) and numerous other references to Sherlock Holmes lore strewn throughout for aficionados to look out for, including another name that will cause a buzz in some quarters.

We learn something surprising – even shocking – about John Watson.
And there’s a conclusion that makes you wonder where the hell this is going to go next (luckily, you’ll only have a week to wait to find out).

Oh, and after that post-credits scene at the end of series three, stick around for another one. Just don't get your hopes up for another return for Moriarty – however much you might miss him.

Sherlock: The Six Thatchers is on New Year's Day at 8:30pm on BBC1

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-12-29/sherlock-the-six-thatchers-spoiler-free-review-from-babysitting-to-bond-style-fight-scenes-theres-something-for-everyone

[Mayhem]

Well that will answer questions people had earlier in the thread! And set up things nicely for the other two episodes...

[saintsaucey]

Wait so tonight's episode isn't a special just the first of three for the season? Lame.

Also was Irene Adler's client supposed to be Kate Middleton ?

[ZariusTwo]

Wait so tonight's episode isn't a special just the first of three for the season? Lame.

I don't follow, you think it's "lame" that we're getting three new episodes?:ohwell:

[saintsaucey]

I don't follow, you think it's "lame" that we're getting three new episodes?:ohwell:

I thought we were getting a special then three new episodes

[ZariusTwo]

I thought we were getting a special then three new episodes

The special was last year.

[Shark_Blade]

From the recent episode, I think I'm liking Season 4 much more than Season 3. Things are going dark indeed.

Speaking of the special "The Abominable Bride", that was my favorite as well. Gotta love Victorian era, and I laughed that Mrs Hudson was not given any lines (just like in the novels) and she was getting so peeved about it.

[ZariusTwo]

Any theories on "Go to Hell, Sherlock", spoken by Mary at the end?

I read a fan theory she could be referring to a Norwegian town

Another (far likelier) possibility is Mary is describing what carting for a grieving John is going to be like

[Mayhem]

Any theories on "Go to Hell, Sherlock", spoken by Mary at the end?

I read a fan theory she could be referring to a Norwegian town

Another (far likelier) possibility is Mary is describing what carting for a grieving John is going to be like
Considering we saw Mary in Norway during the episode (and where she got a passport in a hidden stone), the thought had crossed my mind too. Or just that she predicted that Sherlock would be the death of her, and the cause of John's grief.

[AT-Man]

Can we not do spoilers or even possible spoilers until the episodes have aired? I want to be surprised, so I don't check which actors are in how many episodes, and such information.

After the new episode I started to watch the series from the beginning, thinking I would watch an episode a day. I have now watched four.

[NinjaPug]

Could've done without the John texting random bus girl stuff.

[Shark_Blade]

Some people said that was actually John's older sister - Harry (short for Harriet).

I kinda doubt it cause their eyes look kinda flirty. And why would she gave her number, he should've known it all this time.

[ZariusTwo]

Some people said that was actually John's older sister - Harry (short for Harriet).

I kinda doubt it cause their eyes look kinda flirty. And why would she gave her number, he should've known it all this time.

She signed her initial as "E" didn't she?

[Shark_Blade]

Yep. And John's full name doesn't have any "E". :)

It's Dr. John. H. Watson.

[saintsaucey]

Can we not do spoilers or even possible spoilers until the episodes have aired? I want to be surprised, so I don't check which actors are in how many episodes, and such information.

After the new episode I started to watch the series from the beginning, thinking I would watch an episode a day. I have now watched four.

You posted this yesterday and the episode aired the day before. So sure we can wait till after each episode has aired. To talk about it.

[Mayhem]

Well that was a bit of a cliffhanger! :o

Although my brother and I twigged something was up with the psychiatrist as we thought she looked a little similar to a certain someone else... and we were correct! Still don't think it's actually the mystery "brother" however.

[ZariusTwo]

Yeah, I'm actually thinking the third Holmes brother will be Moriarty himself...just a feeling (well, that and I saw a photo of Andrew Scott on set coming out of a helicopter)

I thought she was going to be Moriarty in drag or Irene Adler the longer she took her time removing her disguise.

The exchange between Sherlock and Culverton in the children's ward was frightening. In fact I noticed the ladies working on the breakfast cereal ad were also kind of underage-looking. Yes, Culverton was clearly based on Jimmy Saville, although they thankfully only made light allusions to Saville tropes and made it more about his serial killer fetish.

Mrs Hudson is fierce behind that wheel.



:)

[AT-Man]

Oh my, favorite episode yet! Toby Jones is incredible, give him all the awards.

[Mayhem]

The exchange between Sherlock and Culverton in the children's ward was frightening. In fact I noticed the ladies working on the breakfast cereal ad were also kind of underage-looking. Yes, Culverton was clearly based on Jimmy Saville, although they thankfully only made light allusions to Saville tropes and made it more about his serial killer fetish.:)
Saville crossed with Harold Shipman. As soon as the mortuary scene came up, we were wondering if he was killing people quietly in his own hospital, out of the way. The final clue was when he mentioned repeatedly sacking the architect, because he had been asking various members of staff how long they had worked there each time something went a bit awry. He ws gauging whether he could trust them or not, because whether they'd know something.

I suppose the only remaining question is... how did whoever the psychiatrist really is (Euros) get hold of the scribbled note to give to Sherlock? Was Culverton's daughter another patient of hers and she gave her the note? Apparently Euros said Culverton gave it to her. Why I wonder? There had been clues laid btw, there was repeated talk of "the east wind" (Euros in Greek) in series three, Moffat and Gattis doing it again! Is Euros Sherringford that Mycroft has a meeting with? Or a place?

[Mayhem]

Verdict on the finale?

I honestly think Gatiss and Moffat were tripping balls for writing this series, as some of it has been seriously out there. And all the better for it, once you get your head around it. My brother and I did see a couple of things coming, such as Euros literally being able to just walk out of the asylum, and noticing at the same time as John in the episode about whose voice was on the tapes. That the plane may not be real, and in someone's head (like Sherlock tripping last episode). And Redbeard. Thought it was an odd name for a dog, and wondered if it was really a dog given Sherlock had blanked out memory of Euros. No, it wasn't a dog.

Didn't really give any on screen closure to Molly though, given what Sherlock made her say. I was hoping we'd see a bit there for him to explain, but given she was in 221B during the montage at the end, she must have forgiven him and they've reconciled if nothing else.

[ZariusTwo]

Not a bad finale, but I kind of thought it fell apart with it's multiple twists at the end


I thought Victor/redbeard was the fourth brother, until it became clear on a reviewing that he was Sherlock's original "best friend", also why was Uros still in her nightgown when Sherlock finds her in the bedroom when she had shown herself to constantly change outfits when allowed to roam free in the prior episode? The idea that she just wanted Sherlock to play with her and help her get out of her mind palace at the end was a tad too convoluted and narrarively just did'nt allign with what she'd been doing all episode.

Is this a detective show, or an attempt at aping an X-Men movie? Because Urous is pretty much a mutant with that ability she had of maximum persuasion. You mean to tell me Moriarty's whole agenda in The Reichenbach Fall was because he was promoted by Sherlock's mary sue sibling? Kind of taints the effectiveness of that episode now knowing Jim was a mind-warped pawn and not his own man.

Still, I'm quite satisfied that Sherlock's "I love you" was aimed at Molly, even if he was only forced to say it to save her life...I liked the little tantrum he had after he was emotionally compromised. I wonder where this leaves the two of them? Molly seemed pretty pleased when she appeared in the last scene, so either she forgave him for the call, or they're taking a decent stab at a relationship (ok, that's a big stretch, but eh, would be best for Rosie)

[AT-Man]

Haaahahaha, what an amazing ending! That was the perfect note to end the series, because it couldn't possibly get any more balls to the wall crazy than that. I mean that with love, because I loved the episode. I could see a more traditional tv series taking place after this, with Sherlcok and Watson solving "normal" cases in 20-40 minute episodes. Wouldn't oppose to that idea, because I think they have now done absolutely everything with the original format.

Thank you, creators of Sherlock!

[Mayhem]

My brother and I both thought put together a two part episode, or film for the cinema, and have that as the end point.

We did like the fact that Sherlock finally got LeStrade's first name correct after all this time :lol:

[Shark_Blade]

Welp that's the end of the series I guess. I'm okay with everything except the slowmo run at the end.... so cheesy, like Batman Forever/Batman & Robin end running slowmo scenes.. ugh.

I hated Mycroft more than ever now tho cause he looked down on Watson and urged Sherlock to shoot him. Like wtf?? I know he's shallow but THAT shallow?

[Mayhem]

I hated Mycroft more than ever now tho cause he looked down on Watson and urged Sherlock to shoot him. Like wtf?? I know he's shallow but THAT shallow?
That was deliberate by Mycroft. He was goading Sherlock into shooting him instead by belittling John, as he knew the best two people to leave the room and stop Euros were Sherlock and John.

[NinjaPug]

I hated Mycroft more than ever now tho cause he looked down on Watson and urged Sherlock to shoot him. Like wtf?? I know he's shallow but THAT shallow?

How did you miss what actually happened in this scene?

[Shark_Blade]

Perhaps I missed a few scenes :trazz: I have to rewatch it then!

[ZariusTwo]

Mrs Hudson, Una Stubbs, has died

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58190446