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CyberCubed
01-16-2012, 11:52 PM
In every new incarnation of TMNT since his original Mirage debut, Baxter has remained an African American with the exception of the original cartoon, (and his cameos in Archie, which barely count).

The 4kids series, IDW series, and Nick cartoon all portray him as African American.

Do you think we'll ever see the return of white Baxter with the long yellow hair?

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http://www.mikeystmnt.com/images/characters/baxter3.jpg

MikeandRaph87
01-17-2012, 07:58 AM
I don't care if he is white or black. I of course was introduced to him as a white mad scientist but its the character beyond the skin and the form he later takes that interest me and I think that is why he is black opposed to white each time as he was originally black anyway. Turning into a fly I bet isn't done though. That is iconic beyond the race of this character. Baxter as we are told was made white for the original cartoon over fears of racism being sparked because Shredder wa abusing a black man so he was changed to white so to avoid that from parents. If Shredder was white himself I could see that but even then would tihnk that was a silly precaution. So black Baxter Stockman becoming a fly again ,yes. White again,no.

Metropoliskid41
01-17-2012, 08:16 AM
No I really don't think we'll ever see him as Baxter again, unless current Baxter gets all cyborged up and then tries to transfer his consciousness into another body.

I think it would be cool though if "White Baxter" made a cameo in the background of Stockgen labs as a simple lab tech working for real Baxter.

rufus
01-17-2012, 08:39 AM
Was it ever said why Baxter had his ethnicity changed for the FW show?

Type 97 Chi-ha
01-17-2012, 09:52 AM
Was it ever said why Baxter had his ethnicity changed for the FW show?

Probably because the makers were afraid to come up with an African-American villain?

MikeandRaph87
01-17-2012, 09:54 AM
Was it ever said why Baxter had his ethnicity changed for the FW show?

Yes,read my post above for the answer. It was because of the fear of abusing a black man. Its funny because of the length of abuse Baxter Stockman went in the 2003 cartoon even if he got the happy ending the original cartoon Baxter didn't.

rufus
01-17-2012, 10:03 AM
Totally missed that part.:lol:

ABrown
01-17-2012, 10:21 AM
It's definitely possible. I think that the original TMNT cartoon has as much influence over the various incarnations that followed as the original comics did.

Logan
01-17-2012, 12:10 PM
I'm kind of surprised he wasn't in Turtles Forever, to be honest.

But in regards to the question... no. Kids now identify him as a black character. If they tried to go back (see what I just did there? nyuk nyuk), there would be accusations of white-washing, blah blah blah. Because the NAACP have nothing better to do than make everything into a case of racism.

Type 97 Chi-ha
01-17-2012, 12:30 PM
I probably should note that the recent Tom Hanks movie The Ladykillers has a scene where black robbers try to hold up a doughnut shop run by an Indochinese man and his wife-and they beat up the robbers.

Foot Soldier Clang
01-17-2012, 02:09 PM
Probably not. I see "white Baxter" staying within the realm of the 86 series. I would like to see Baxter return as in his mutant fly form tho, with the same voice actor from the classic show if possible.

CyberCubed
01-17-2012, 02:25 PM
Probably because the makers were afraid to come up with an African-American villain?

They had no problem with Bebop being black.

ToTheNines
01-17-2012, 03:36 PM
The real question is... will we ever see black Barney Stockman?

Icebot
01-17-2012, 04:20 PM
I'd consider it very possible (wasn't Dr. Chaplan of the 2k3 show a lot similar to 87 Stockman?)

CyberCubed
01-17-2012, 05:10 PM
I'd consider it very possible (wasn't Dr. Chaplan of the 2k3 show a lot similar to 87 Stockman?)

I always thought that too.

Hermano Dyvas
01-18-2012, 12:44 PM
Unless the "politically correct" rules get really exagerated we'll keep seeing Baxter as an evil black guy methinks.

Plasticplayhouse
01-18-2012, 12:55 PM
i doubt it, especially not a goofy version such as the OT. personally i prefer the black baxter. i'm more of a traditionalist anyway.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
01-18-2012, 03:00 PM
They had no problem with Bebop being black.

Probably because Rocksteady was white.

Type 97 Chi-ha
01-18-2012, 07:11 PM
Probably because Rocksteady was white.

And Shredder was yellow. The diversity angle was at least covered in the Technodrome. :tlol:

ssjup81
01-18-2012, 08:39 PM
And Shredder was yellow. The diversity angle was at least covered in the Technodrome. :tlol:Nice. White, black, yellow, and pink. Perfect.:tlol:

Xav
01-19-2012, 03:29 AM
They had no problem with Bebop being black. I guess it was OK for a black man to be a street thug but not a scientist.

Avatar Yuffie
01-19-2012, 05:23 AM
He's portrayed as a black man in the original comic, so they should stick with that.

But I like he got mutated as a fly angle in the old cartoon. :/

Maybe white!Stockman be his own character?

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
01-19-2012, 07:01 AM
I guess it was OK for a black man to be a street thug but not a scientist.

Bebop and Rocksteady work together, in such cases it's easy to have both colours of skin.