Art Battle

[JonesyKitty]

Hello, Ulisses31 and i thought this would be a fun new idea soo heres what he came up with:

Hello forum artists, this is the "Art Battle".
The place were you are not alone with your art. Just get a friend and start a match.
Here artists pair up from time to time to offer unique renditions of certain characters and peers could compare the styles.
More of a round-robin form of recreation than an actual competition.

First Art Battle - Nicko vs CaseyJonesFan

Who will be next?

[Buffy]

Ohhh pick me pick me! :)

[Ulisses31]

Ohhh pick me pick me! :)
I think redeemer want to pick you LOL

[JonesyKitty]

already someone else wants to do it? sweeeeeet ;)

[Redeemer]

Ohhh pick me pick me! :)

Buffy! I challenge you to a duel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ulisses31]

Hey Buffy do you accept Redeemer challenge? Now you two need to set the rules for the battle, example: choose a character or else, choose an end date or something, choose a weapon LOL or not :o

[Raph'N'Roll]

Can I join in?:)

My challenge is to draw Leonardo, in whatever media takes your fancy.
I'm going for good ol' pencil, ink and copic graphic markers.

End time: tomorrow midnight!

[Ulisses31]

Can I join in?:)

My challenge is to draw Leonardo, in whatever media takes your fancy.
I'm going for good ol' pencil, ink and copic graphic markers.

End time: tomorrow midnight!

OK I will battle you until tomorrow then sir! ;) London/Lisbon GMT time ok? http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/

Nicko vs CaseyJonesFan is ON
Buffy vs Redeemer is waiting
Raph'N'Roll vs Ulisses31 is ON

[Redeemer]

OK I will battle you until tomorrow then sir! ;) London/Lisbon GMT time ok? http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/



Damn't Ulisses I was going challenge him sense buffy has not responded but I guess I will wait for a response from buffy.

Oh well I am actaully looking forward to seeing some sketches from u Ulisses :P

[Raph'N'Roll]

Ulisses31:OK I will battle you until tomorrow then sir! London/Lisbon GMT time ok? http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/


Perfect my good man!
Let the drawing commence:)

Redeemer:Damn't Ulisses I was going challenge him sense buffy has not responded but I guess I will wait for a response from buffy.


There's always another day!

[Raph'N'Roll]

Phew, just made it, here is my Leo pic.
2264

[Ulisses31]

I´m uploading mine to show Leo, yours is really great.
Here is mine good?

http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/12/68/13/09/leonar10.jpg

Here is the sketch:

http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/12/68/13/09/digita12.jpg

[Raph'N'Roll]

Thanks man!
Yeah yours is excellent, interesting style, really like the reflection on the sword.

[Ulisses31]

Here is the result from the first ART Battle:

In about 24h you managed to make an impressive draw, love it, I will use it for a week has my desktop wallpaper to celebrate our battle.

Will you redesign Krang? http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=36171

http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/12/68/13/09/art_ba10.jpg

[LEOTMNT]

Those are both outstanding pieces of work!!Such an awesome idea aswell, once I have more time on my hands I would love to join in!

[JonesyKitty]

Here is the result from the first ART Battle:

In about 24h you managed to make an impressive draw, love it, I will use it for a week has my desktop wallpaper to celebrate our battle.

Will you redesign Krang? http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=36171



those are sweet!

[Redeemer]

Damnt I want to battle someone:P

[Buffy]

Sorry for my late reply! If you're still interested I accept the challenge Redeemer.

The challenge: draw Bebop
End time: Tuesday evening

Wow, those drawings of the first art battle are amazing! :)

[Eiko]

Man those are some really awsome drawings you guys have done there. if i had the time would love to give it a go. :)

[Redeemer]

Sorry for my late reply! If you're still interested I accept the challenge Redeemer.

The challenge: draw Bebop
End time: Tuesday evening

Wow, those drawings of the first art battle are amazing! :)

Challenge accepted Let the match begin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Buffy]

Challenge accepted Let the match begin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Game on! :)

[Master Splinter]

Game on! :)

Those are great! I might have to jump in after I get a few things off my plate.

-ms

[Buffy]

http://drawingmelee.deviantart.com/art/They-call-me-Mr-Pig-281167803

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo184/DrawingMelee/2012_bebop.png

My entry for Bebop. It came out a bit too light I'm afraid...

[Redeemer]

http://drawingmelee.deviantart.com/art/They-call-me-Mr-Pig-281167803

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo184/DrawingMelee/2012_bebop.png

My entry for Bebop. It came out a bit too light I'm afraid...

Pretty cool to say the least I havent even started yet to tell u the truth Ill probably do it 2nite and post it up 2marrow.

[JonesyKitty]

that Bebop is pretty sweet :) im almost done with my Catwoman April for Nicko

[Nickokapo]

Sweet toon style :teek: *faves*
Fun stuff, I'll get working on mirage casey asap :tgrin:

[JonesyKitty]

heres my drawing for my art trade with Nicko. He asked for a sketch of April the Catwoman from Channel Six. her hands are a lttle messed up but i tried lol im bad with these kind of poses...

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc363/Bloodisredpikachuisyellow/ComissionforNicko.jpg

[Buffy]

Awesome drawing CaseyJonesFan!

[Nickokapo]

That, is friggin' epic ( °A°)!

ok my pic is up yay XD

[Ulisses31]

My entry for Bebop. It came out a bit too light I'm afraid...

If you can add some black to the line-art it would look less light :) I´ve done this line-art on paint.net automatically with a toll named ink sketch, but you can do it by yourself to add strength to your draw.

http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/12/68/13/09/2012_b10.png


http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc363/Bloodisredpikachuisyellow/ComissionforNicko.jpg
Great art. Why no COLOR?

http://r14.imgfast.net/users/1414/94/26/67/smiles/25436.gif

[Nickokapo]

http://edoropolis.deviantart.com/art/casey-fanart-281279747?q=gallery%3Aedoropolis&qo=0
http://i40.tinypic.com/3177cp4.jpg :tgrin:
I'm not so good with action poses, but i hope you like it :tsmile:

[Ulisses31]

Do you consider it finished or will you do something more? (ink and color)

http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/12/68/13/09/artbat10.jpg

[Nickokapo]

I'll probably clean up the lines :)

[JonesyKitty]

I'll probably clean up the lines :)

duuude i loooove it! :D

[JonesyKitty]

anyone else wanna challenge me? :tsmile:

[JonesyKitty]

Awesome drawing CaseyJonesFan!
thank you :)
That, is friggin' epic ( °A°)!

ok my pic is up yay XD
glad you like it man! and i love the casey pic you did for me!

Great art. Why no COLOR?

thank you, and me and nicko just decided a sketch trade was good for us. I'll color the next one I do ;) and i'll probably end up coloring april eventually for self interest lol

[Mikeyangelo]

All of the art I have seen on here so far are great, some really good stuff. I hope to join in on the fun sometime soon.

[oldmanwinters]

Do you consider it finished or will you do something more? (ink and color)

http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/12/68/13/09/artbat10.jpg

Regarding the Art Battle between Nicko and CaseyJonesFan, I will wait until everybody has cleaned up their lines and/or added color to cast my final "vote."

One thing I hate about the current setup of the "Redesign Contest Series" is that it all comes down to clicking the poll without any opportunity for feedback for the artists' sake. Thus, I'll try to offer some helpful compliments/critiques for both pieces.

Nicko's Casey Jones
Nicko's Casey Jones is certainly pretty messy at this point, due to it being very much a sketch. However, I do give him credit for his ambition for the background. He was trying to really set the stage for the action, and I would love to see this cleaned up a bit so that the art can really shine through.

Regarding the sense of depth and perspective, I think this piece falls just a little short of the intended effect. Casey's upper body is clearly supposed to be tilted (right arm in front of left arm as he's bringing his stick over his head), but it looks a little flat from the frontal view. I think it's only slightly off target however. It's a good pose overall.

Also, kudos for the Turtles in Time reference! Now I really want to see you flesh out an appropriate video-game-esque background!

CaseyJonesFan's The Catwoman from Channel Six
I've always liked the look of April as a cat-mutant. It's not a fetish or anything (because there are some weird ones out there), but I just think she looks awesome that way.

He really nailed the face and hair, which look very close to her appearance in the Fred Wolf episode (which appeared to vary slightly from scene to scene, ironically). I was surprised he decided not to draw the belt on the jumpsuit, but it looks good anyway, the unobscured zipper really gives her a sleeker look. All the details on the jumpsuit are good, showing he paid attention to the original character design. I have trouble drawing folds and creases on clothing, but you seem to have simulated them very realistically.

The tail is staged well, although I think it may be a little shorter than it should be.

I like how he rendered that text, with the CWfC6 text big, bold and outlined with some depth and the "April O'Neil" looking very cute and feminine (he did dot the "i" with a heart!). It's a small detail, but I think it adds a lot to the piece.

Obviously, the big problem here is that right hand/paw, which the artist admitted gave him trouble (I can see the eraser marks from earlier, failed attempts). The left hand looks fine (glad you remembered her wrist watch!), but that right land looks like it got cut-and-pasted onto the wrist. Making the hand a little bigger would help fix that problem AND it would give you a chance to showcase her fearsome claws! While I don't consider myself a great artist, take a look at one of my takes on the character and see what I did with the hands (http://oldmanwinters.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d4c9eqz); it might give you some ideas on how to improve.

I second the call to color this! I can promise you an instant "fave" if you decide to upload this piece to a Deviantart account.

[Nickokapo]

Thanks for the thorough input :D maybe i can clean it up & give the foreshortening another go..

[JonesyKitty]

CaseyJonesFan's The Catwoman from Channel Six
He really nailed the face and hair, which look very close to her appearance in the Fred Wolf episode (which appeared to vary slightly from scene to scene, ironically). I was surprised he decided not to draw the belt on the jumpsuit, but it looks good anyway, the unobscured zipper really gives her a sleeker look. All the details on the jumpsuit are good, showing he paid attention to the original character design. I have trouble drawing folds and creases on clothing, but you seem to have simulated them very realistically.

The tail is staged well, although I think it may be a little shorter than it should be.

I like how he rendered that text, with the CFC6 text big, bold and outlined with some depth and the "April O'Neil" looking very cute and feminine (he did dot the "i" with a heart!). It's a small detail, but I think it adds a lot to the piece.

Obviously, the big problem here is that right hand/paw, which the artist admitted gave him trouble (I can see the eraser marks from earlier, failed attempts). The left hand looks fine (glad you remembered her wrist watch!), but that right land looks like it got cut-and-pasted onto the wrist. Making the hand a little bigger would help fix that problem AND it would give you a chance to showcase her fearsome claws! While I don't consider myself a great artist, take a look at one of my takes on the characters and see what I did with the hands (http://oldmanwinters.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d4c9eqz); it might give you some ideas on how to improve.

I second the call to color this! I can promise you an instant "fave" if you decide to upload this piece to a Deviantart account.

**** i totally didnt realize i forgot her belt ^^' and yeah the hand gave me soooo much trouble haha. the real problem with that was i was looking at a pose of The Black Cat from spiderman and her hand was like HUGE! when i tried to draw it it looked way off so i tried to redo it smaller but the more i redrew it more it still looked messed up. I'll definitly check out your link and if i recolor it i'll be sure to add the belt :3 thanks for the cunstructive critisism (i think thats how its spelt lol) :tsmile:

[Redeemer]

http://drawingmelee.deviantart.com/art/They-call-me-Mr-Pig-281167803

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo184/DrawingMelee/2012_bebop.png

My entry for Bebop. It came out a bit too light I'm afraid...

Hey Buffy Ive been racking my brain Ill need another night if thats ok with you. Ive tried to draw this twice and threw them both out.

[oldmanwinters]

**** i totally didnt realize i forgot her belt ^^' and yeah the hand gave me soooo much trouble haha. the real problem with that was i was looking at a pose of The Black Cat from spiderman and her hand was like HUGE! when i tried to draw it it looked way off so i tried to redo it smaller but the more i redrew it more it still looked messed up. I'll definitly check out your link and if i recolor it i'll be sure to add the belt :3 thanks for the cunstructive critisism (i think thats how its spelt lol) :tsmile:

Sure thing! I can tell you've got great talent, so I don't mind giving you some real critiques.

Looking at your piece more, it's clear that the proportion of the arms are problematic as well. Both arms appear to be extended fully with no major bend in the elbow. The left arm is very long, and the sleeve goes all the way over the elbow. The right arm is skimpy by comparison, even though I think it is supposed to be closer to the viewer than its counterpart. It's like you ran out of room on the page and decided to cut the arm off short. And the hand (which does look small) appears to be growing out of the underside of the wrist.

As for the belt, I actually like the jumpsuit as it is! It would be interesting to see it the other way, but I do think it looks unique and fine as it is. A belt would make the uniform crumble up a little in the middle and break up the sleekness. However, it's all up to you!

Thanks for the thorough input :D maybe i can clean it up & give the foreshortening another go..

No prob, Nicko!

[Buffy]

Hey Buffy Ive been racking my brain Ill need another night if thats ok with you. Ive tried to draw this twice and threw them both out.

No prob Redeemer! Take all the time you need. Can't wait to see your entry :)

[Ulisses31]

Hey Buffy Ive been racking my brain Ill need another night if thats ok with you. Ive tried to draw this twice and threw them both out.

For the LULZ

http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/12/68/13/09/artbat11.jpg

[Sliced]

This thread could be alot of fun! Maybe this needs a sticky? I mean why not, this could be here for quite a while. It has alot of potential. Every battle has the possiblity of truly being unique!

Another idea could be to do ''flash battles''. You'd have 1 hour to sketch something and submit it. If I had more time, I'd gladly challenge someone to a battle. Maybe next week...

Great idea.

[Redeemer]

For the LULZ

http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/12/68/13/09/artbat11.jpg

U sob lol pretty good :lol:

[Ulisses31]

Another idea could be to do ''flash battles''. You'd have 1 hour to sketch something and submit it.

Interesting idea. When you start a battle you can set all the rules so it is up to you to try it :)

U sob lol pretty good :lol:

http://www.memecenter.com/uploaded/Meme-party_f31d360410962a2e7f0bbf3b6f2e0a7e.gif

[oldmanwinters]

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[Ulisses31]

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^Read it Redeemer!!!!!!!!! And edit your posts please! :)

[Nickokapo]

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Gotcha, will do :D *is gonna clean up & digitally ink certain casey jones pic soon :tgrin:*

[Redeemer]

Ok sorry for the delay especially Buffy, but finally managed to draw something decent.

Ok tried to use spoilers can someone please explain to me how to insert a pic with it

[Buffy]

Cool drawing Redeemer! If you want to use the spoiler tags: use the icon with the black square with the 'S' in it.

Edit: I altered my drawing a bit: made it a bit darker and mixed the colors some more and made a background.

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo184/DrawingMelee/2012_bebop-1.png

[Ulisses31]

Ok sorry for the delay especially Buffy, but finally managed to draw something decent.
Ok tried to use spoilers can someone please explain to me how to insert a pic with it

http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/12/68/13/09/spoile10.jpg

So please do it when you quote a post and it have images - The result:

Ok tried to use spoilers can someone please explain to me how to insert a pic with it
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2283&d=1327734657

http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/12/68/13/09/artbat12.jpg

[Ulisses31]

anyone else wanna challenge me? :tsmile:

Tell me the rules I battle you :)

[oldmanwinters]

Those Bebop designs humor me!

Buffy's looks like a Mario Bros. villain and Redeemer's reminds me of The Rock in Walking Tall!

[Redeemer]

Those Bebop designs humor me!

Buffy's looks like a Mario Bros. villain and Redeemer's reminds me of The Rock in Walking Tall!

Lol thanks dont know if thats a insult or compliment :lol:

[oldmanwinters]

Lol thanks dont know if thats a insult or compliment :lol:

Depends on what you were going for, I suppose. Bebop's gun does look a little small; hence my comparison to the "whoopin' stick" from Walking Tall.

[Redeemer]

Depends on what you were going for, I suppose. Bebop's gun does look a little small; hence my comparison to the "whoopin' stick" from Walking Tall.

I didnt want a fat, incompetent Warthog, I wanted him to be big and fearsome, thats one reason I drew the weapon a little small. Jst for size comparison. I wouldnt want to run into this guy alone lol

[Ulisses31]

To me he is a Boar not a Warthog...

Scientific classification
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Artiodactyla
Family: Suidae
Genus: Sus
Species: S. scrofa
Binomial name
Sus scrofa

[Slap-Happy]

I'll challenge somebody to something. not sure which character, but yeah, I'll challenge someone.

[Redeemer]

To me he is a Boar not a Warthog...

Scientific classification
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Artiodactyla
Family: Suidae
Genus: Sus
Species: S. scrofa
Binomial name
Sus scrofa

Wow so sorry
:P

[JonesyKitty]

Tell me the rules I battle you :)

how about we have to draw Venus? color and ink is optional (im going to color mine tho). lol i love venus i know most people hate her tho :P

[Buffy]

Those Bebop designs humor me!

Buffy's looks like a Mario Bros. villain and Redeemer's reminds me of The Rock in Walking Tall!

Thanks! I love those games! :)

I'll challenge somebody to something. not sure which character, but yeah, I'll challenge someone.

I'm up for the challenge! :)

[Slap-Happy]

I'm up for the challenge! :)

Any Preferences towards character?

[Buffy]

Any Preferences towards character?

Nope, no preferences.

[Slap-Happy]

Nope, no preferences.
How bout' the Rat King?

[Buffy]

How bout' the Rat King?

Sounds cool to me!

[Ulisses31]

how about we have to draw Venus? color and ink is optional (im going to color mine tho). lol i love venus i know most people hate her tho :P

OK I hate her but OK

[JonesyKitty]

OK I hate her but OK

haha we dont have to we could do a different character :P

[Ulisses31]

No, we will do her if you don´t mind, until when?

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

No, we will do her if you don't mind, until when?

It is really hard to refrain from making an off-color joke here... :tlol:

[Sliced]

No, we will do her if you don´t mind, until when?

:lol::lol:

I'm with Son of Ch'rell on this one!

This one made laugh!

Go easy ON THE DRAWING of Venus guys ! Its her first time :lol: (beign drawn of course)!

[JonesyKitty]

No, we will do her if you don´t mind, until when?

how about by friday? I drew mine and started coloring and my stupid laptop turned off and erased the colors so i gotta redo them :(

[Ulisses31]

how about by friday? I drew mine and started coloring and my stupid laptop turned off and erased the colors so i gotta redo them :(

OK bring it on

[Redeemer]

Enough of the lame joke I want to see some battles!!!!!!!!!!!

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

Is it too late to get involved in this? Can we choose our characters/partners or do they get assigned to us?

[JonesyKitty]

Is it too late to get involved in this? Can we choose our characters/partners or do they get assigned to us?

you just challenge someone :) you pick the characters and then you set the rules

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

you just challenge someone :) you pick the characters and then you set the rules

I will have to reread this thread I suppose...

[JonesyKitty]

I will have to reread this thread I suppose...

if someone already did one you can always ask them to do one too

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

I challenge Powder to an Old Hob draw-off...

[JonesyKitty]

I challenge Powder to an Old Hob draw-off...

sweet cant wait to see em XD

[JonesyKitty]

Heres my Venus drawing. I Still have to go over the black lines again but i may not have time before friday (going to my fiance's moms) so i figured id post it anyways :P also i just realized the text was not centered DX ill have to fix that too

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc363/Bloodisredpikachuisyellow/VENUS-Copy.jpg

[Ulisses31]

Sexy FAP FAP LOL

[JonesyKitty]

Sexy FAP FAP LOL

hahah:roll:

[oldmanwinters]

CaseyJonesFan, I make it a rule to never, EVER give compliments to any fan art involving Venus.

However, I will say that your artistic skills are very evident, even in the most unworthy of subjects. :tcool:

[JonesyKitty]

CaseyJonesFan, I make it a rule to never, EVER give compliments to any fan art involving Venus.

However, I will say that your artistic skills are very evident, even in the most unworthy of subjects. :tcool:

haha thanks dude :P i love venus it just gave me a better excuse to have a crush on a tmnt as a kid lol XD

[Ulisses31]

The only decent way to draw Venus:

http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/12/68/13/09/venusp11.jpg

http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/12/68/13/09/venusp10.jpg

The sketch and a joke:

http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/12/68/13/09/digita15.jpg
http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/12/68/13/09/burka-10.jpg

[JonesyKitty]

The only decent way to draw Venus:

http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/12/68/13/09/venusp11.jpg

http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/12/68/13/09/venusp10.jpg

The sketch and a joke:

http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/12/68/13/09/digita15.jpg
http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/12/68/13/09/burka-10.jpg

haha thats pretty good even for a joke :) i like it good job dude

[Ulisses31]

haha thats pretty good even for a joke :) i like it good job dude

Always the best for my friends, and with all the commotion about boobs on my redesigns I had to go a different route LOL

http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/12/68/13/09/artbat14.jpg

[Redeemer]

The only decent way to draw Venus:

http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/12/68/13/09/venusp11.jpg

http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/12/68/13/09/venusp10.jpg

The sketch and a joke:

http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/12/68/13/09/digita15.jpg
http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/12/68/13/09/burka-10.jpg

Wow I didnt know Venus was Arabic.....:P

[JonesyKitty]

[QUOTE=Ulisses31;908362]Always the best for my friends, and with all the commotion about boobs on my redesigns I had to go a different route LOL
QUOTE]

lol people give you crap about the way you draw boobs?

[Ulisses31]

No just because I draw boobs on TMNT characters LOL, see the Krang Redesign thread

[JonesyKitty]

No just because I draw boobs on TMNT characters LOL, see the Krang Redesign thread

lol i draw boobs on tmnt characters too..females only or femme versions lol

[Ulisses31]

I'll challenge somebody to something. not sure which character, but yeah, I'll challenge someone.

I'm up for the challenge! :)

Anyone still battling? Will you two do Rat King?

I challenge Powder to an Old Hob draw-off...

Is better you PM him, he have not replied yet...

[Nickokapo]

Guess who's got mail today? :tlol:

http://i43.tinypic.com/29fffxg.jpg

Thanks soooo much dude :toops: it's friggin epic!

[oldmanwinters]

So does CaseyJonesFan still plan on revamping that Cat-April design and coloring it?

[JonesyKitty]

So does CaseyJonesFan still plan on revamping that Cat-April design and coloring it?

eventually yeah lol i gotta finish my Remix issue 2 pages first tho, ive been slacking DX

[oldmanwinters]

i gotta finish my Remix issue 2 pages first tho, ive been slacking

Yeah, me too...

[Ulisses31]

No more Battles?