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Foot Soldier Clang
01-20-2012, 09:18 PM
So if memory serves me right, in the 87 series Mutagen was a glowing purple/pink ooze. In the first movie, it was a translucent green color, while in the second movie it was a bright and vivid almost grass green. The Playmates figures had canisters of ooze that were sometimes green light-piping. I have no idea what it looked like in the 2k3 series.

Is there an official color for mutagen, or does it just change for ever depiction of TMNT?

Also, does anyone have any screen caps from the old show where mutagen is being used?

Jester
01-20-2012, 09:25 PM
Mostly green. I think the only time it's purple is in the pilot of the FW series and the "Foot Ooze" toy. It was tutti-fruttie in Were-Rats, but in I think everything else, it's mostly green.

Samhain
01-20-2012, 09:31 PM
Wasn't it purple-ish-pink in Turtles Forever?

Jester
01-20-2012, 09:34 PM
Wasn't it purple-ish-pink in Turtles Forever?
Yep, you're right. I forgot that one...
:P

oldmanwinters
01-20-2012, 09:47 PM
I'm gonna go with green, but it can appear to be a translucent pink in certain kinds of lighting.

Jester
01-20-2012, 09:50 PM
I'm gonna go with green, but it can appear to be a translucent pink in certain kinds of lighting.
And it changes colors in icy or warm water.

Foot Soldier Clang
01-20-2012, 10:12 PM
Wasn't it purple-ish-pink in Turtles Forever?

That's right, and it was also in a small beaker instead of the usual canister.

Galactus
01-20-2012, 10:54 PM
In the first two episodes it was purple which was what Turtles Forever based it on. Pretty much every appearance since then it was green although I suppose it could be a different kind of mutagen.

The big discrepancy is "Michaelangelo Meets Mondo Gecko" were they depicted the turtles being exposed to the mutagen completely differently to how it was shown in "Turtle Tracks" complete with green mutagen.

tone-master21
01-20-2012, 11:06 PM
Here are some mutagen screencaps from the various season of the OT.

Season 1 episode “Turtle Tracks”
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen3.jpg

Season 1 episode “Enter the Shredder”
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen2.jpg

Season 2 episode “Invasion of the Punk Frogs”
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen4.jpg

Season 3 episode “Mutagen Monster”
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen13.jpg

Season 3 episode “Leatherhead, Terror of the Swamp”
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen14.jpg

Season 3 episode “Michelangelo’s Birthday”
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen15.jpg

Season 4 episode “Slash, Evil Turtle From Dimension X”
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen5.jpg

Season 4 episode “Were-Rats From Channel 6”
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen6.jpg
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen7.jpg
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen8.jpg

tone-master21
01-20-2012, 11:07 PM
Season 5 episode “Planet of the Turtleoids”
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen1.jpg

Season 5 episode “Mutagen Man”
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen9.jpg

Season 5 episode “Michelangelo Meets Mondo Gecko”
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen10.jpg

Season 5 episode “The Ice Creature Cometh”
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen11.jpg

Season 7 episode “Revenge of the Fly”
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen12.jpg

Foot Soldier Clang
01-20-2012, 11:13 PM
Whoa that rainbowesque mutagen being dumped on Irma and Verne is weird :o

Jester
01-20-2012, 11:14 PM
Whoa that rainbowesque mutagen being dumped on Irma and Verne is weird :o
Yeah, it's what you get when mutagen ages... :P

oldmanwinters
01-21-2012, 12:33 AM
DrMFMJrb4w0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrMFMJrb4w0

gobo
01-21-2012, 01:02 AM
What color is Mutagen?
Same color as ectoplasm.

ssjup81
01-21-2012, 01:25 AM
Whoa that rainbowesque mutagen being dumped on Irma and Verne is weird :oYeah, but at least for that though, they had an excuse. *laughs at Rat King for not knowing how to make proper mutagen*

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
01-21-2012, 04:45 AM
Big Bug Blunder is also green.

Candy Kappa
01-21-2012, 05:06 AM
maybe one of the ingredients are food coloring, any food color works :P

Donnie
01-21-2012, 10:58 AM
It's funny to see how many times the color was changed! I definitely like the green ooze best...followed by the RAINBOW! Hehe just kidding, followed by the purple.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
01-21-2012, 01:21 PM
Looks like the first mutagen was pink, while later seasons would go for green.

Mr._Mutant_Man
01-21-2012, 01:32 PM
All the colors of the rainbow!

The yellow mutagen in Michelangelo's Birthday seems to be a variant that makes whoever gets sprayed blow up like Harry Potter's aunt. Yet Shredder apparently never bothered to keep the formula for what nearly defeated the turtles.

Maybe they could have done something where other colors of mutagen have different effects, like kryptonite.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
01-21-2012, 01:38 PM
Green is also what's probably most famous.

pannoni1
01-21-2012, 03:05 PM
Green is also what's probably most famous.

The TGRI/TCRI canister is what cements this debate, however as the most iconic source of mutagen. Even in the OT green mutagen is prominent than pink/violet as shown below. The animators were just unsure of what color mutagen really was early in the series; before the movie made green the predominant color from that point forward.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
01-22-2012, 06:02 AM
The TGRI/TCRI canister is what cements this debate, however as the most iconic source of mutagen. Even in the OT green mutagen is prominent than pink/violet as shown below. The animators were just unsure of what color mutagen really was early in the series; before the movie made green the predominant color from that point forward.

Do black and white Mirage mention any colour?

Galactus
01-22-2012, 07:22 AM
The yellow mutagen in Michelangelo's Birthday seems to be a variant that makes whoever gets sprayed blow up like Harry Potter's aunt. Yet Shredder apparently never bothered to keep the formula for what nearly defeated the turtles.

What would be the point? Splinter'd just dip into his collection of magic moth balls to deflate the affected people.

Then again this is the cartoon were Donatello had a ray gun that changed peoples personalities just laying in a wardrobe yet never thought of using it on Shredder or Krang but was okay with using it on his brother.

CyberCubed
01-22-2012, 09:32 AM
Then again this is the cartoon were Donatello had a ray gun that changed peoples personalities just laying in a wardrobe yet never thought of using it on Shredder or Krang but was okay with using it on his brother.

Shredder's personality already changed too many times in the old show, like when he thought he was Michaelangelo, or when his mind moved into Splinter's body, or the time he fell down and got amnesia but still wanted to blow up the city.

I think there were at least 3-4 plotlines where Shredder loses his mind.

Stingray69
01-22-2012, 11:01 AM
Greens my favorite color and what I think of when I think ooze. But I quess it can be any color.

Any one else remember this ooze?

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k563/superman15857/IMG_0715.jpg

Foot Soldier Clang
01-22-2012, 01:10 PM
Leo looks absolutely bored on that box :lol:

pannoni1
01-22-2012, 01:26 PM
38 cents? Boy, have things gone up in value since then! And why would Mike and Don have to "share" a box?

Still, brings back memories when Nabisco commercials ended with NAH-BISS-CO! (ding)

Stingray69
01-22-2012, 01:32 PM
I always wondered the same thing about box sharing. I feel like they got the short end of the stick. I mean I can't imagine they only had three flavors. Then again maybe they did and that's why they have to share.

gobo
01-22-2012, 06:12 PM
Then again this is the cartoon were Donatello had a ray gun that changed peoples personalities just laying in a wardrobe yet never thought of using it on Shredder or Krang but was[n't] okay with using it on his brother.
Fixed that for you... :)
I think there were at least 3-4 plotlines where Shredder loses his mind.
Yeah. Any more than "3-4 plotlines" out of his 150 or so episodes would have been pointless repitition. :roll:

Foot Soldier Clang
02-05-2012, 11:43 AM
I was rewatching some old TMNT Playmates toy commercials, and they usually refer to mutagen as "retromutagen". The file cards refer to mutagen as that as well. Is "retromutagen" the full term for the ooze? :tconfuse:

sdp
02-05-2012, 11:53 AM
Isn't retro-mutagen the stuff that would turn them back to turtles/original state and mutagen the stuff that mutates you? That's why Shredder tried to attack with retro-mutagen not mutagen he wanted to undue the mutation not mutate themfurther.

Foot Soldier Clang
02-05-2012, 12:23 PM
That's what I figured.

ABrown
02-05-2012, 12:46 PM
Ya know what. I think there's a pretty easy answer to this question. The color of mutagen is whatever food coloring Shredder and Krang had available in the kitchen cabinet that day.

pannoni1
02-05-2012, 01:01 PM
In any case, it suits well with classic Nickelodeon with all that Gak and Slime they did!

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
02-06-2012, 07:07 AM
I was rewatching some old TMNT Playmates toy commercials, and they usually refer to mutagen as "retromutagen". The file cards refer to mutagen as that as well. Is "retromutagen" the full term for the ooze? :tconfuse:

What's that image? No Foot soldiers are mutants, at least not in 1987 and Archie. Is it from the toyline?

Foot Soldier Clang
02-06-2012, 10:27 AM
What's that image? No Foot soldiers are mutants, at least not in 1987 and Archie. Is it from the toyline?

Yeah the toyline. Like the image I like to use in my signature is from the Mutations line and is the "Mutation Chart" for the Foot Soldier figure. If you notice, it refers to mutagen as "retromutagen". I've seen it on other toys as well.

ABrown
02-06-2012, 10:43 AM
Any one else remember this ooze?

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k563/superman15857/IMG_0715.jpg

No but I do remember the turtles ice cream that you can get when the ice cream man comes around. And sometimes they still carry it to this day.

Leo looks absolutely bored on that box :lol:

Ha, he's like "how the f*#k did I get stuck endorsing this?"

Nintendophile
02-06-2012, 11:05 AM
(Talking about the original cartoon here.) Maybe, if we're looking for some kind of explanation for "pink" and "green", we could say that the "original" mutagen that mutated the Turtles was pink. Once Shredder found this out, he obtained the rest of that "original" mutagen. Then, when that ran out, he started to have to manufacture his own, which came out green, because it wasn't the "original" mutagen, it was "processed" mutagen.

It could explain why the earlier episodes seemed to have pink, and the later ones had green. Shredder ran out of the "original" stuff, and started having to make his own "synthetic" stuff.

Maybe? Eh? Eh?

(Outside of the cartoon, I'll always think of mutagen as green, though.)

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
02-06-2012, 12:29 PM
Yeah the toyline. Like the image I like to use in my signature is from the Mutations line and is the "Mutation Chart" for the Foot Soldier figure. If you notice, it refers to mutagen as "retromutagen". I've seen it on other toys as well.

Is it the original one or those mutatin' TMNT toyline.

†Dr.Killpatients†
02-06-2012, 05:53 PM
Mutagen changes color when it gets unstable according to Donatello's opinion.

Foot Soldier Clang
02-06-2012, 06:30 PM
When did he say that?

†Dr.Killpatients†
02-06-2012, 06:49 PM
When did he say that?

"Were-Rats from Channel 6"

Uki
02-06-2012, 08:09 PM
Maybe the multiple colors could be akin to that of Kryptonite...? ;)

TurtleTitan97
02-06-2012, 08:11 PM
Maybe the multiple colors could be akin to that of Kryptonite...? ;)

Uki could be right. Sometimes its green, other times its another color.

Stingray69
02-06-2012, 08:49 PM
Maybe the multiple colors could be akin to that of Kryptonite...? ;)

Hmm With each color having it's own abilitys.

Hermano Dyvas
02-07-2012, 05:15 PM
Season 1 episode “Turtle Tracks”
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen3.jpg
This is the original mutagen.

Season 1 episode “Enter the Shredder”
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen2.jpg
still purple, still original mutagen.

Season 2 episode “Invasion of the Punk Frogs”
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen4.jpg
I'm not sure what you get when you mix purple and blue but I'm willing to buy it's orange.

Season 3 episode “Mutagen Monster”
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen13.jpg
At some point in the series regular mutagen became green instead of purple. This wasn't really classic mutagen though, other chemicals got mixed with it too. It didn't have the same results of classic mutagen. When the cows touched it. They just merged into a monster.

Season 3 episode “Leatherhead, Terror of the Swamp”
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen14.jpg
Same comment as the one on the picture with the frogs.

Season 3 episode “Michelangelo’s Birthday”
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen15.jpg
Again, not mutagen. It actually reversed rock soldier mutations and turned the turtles into balloons or something.

Season 4 episode “Slash, Evil Turtle From Dimension X”
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen5.jpg
Not classic mutagen either. It was super mutagen, Krang and Shredder talk about it earlier in the episode. Good enough explanation of why it's not green or purple.

Season 4 episode “Were-Rats From Channel 6”
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen6.jpg
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen7.jpg
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen8.jpg
This was expired mutagen. That's why it turned tutti frutti.

Hermano Dyvas
02-07-2012, 05:18 PM
Season 5 episode “Planet of the Turtleoids”
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen1.jpg

Season 5 episode “Mutagen Man”
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen9.jpg

Season 5 episode “Michelangelo Meets Mondo Gecko”
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen10.jpg

Season 5 episode “The Ice Creature Cometh”
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen11.jpg

Season 7 episode “Revenge of the Fly”
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen12.jpg

These are all great examples of regular mutagen having turned green i/o purple at some point in the series.

CrazySquirrel
02-08-2012, 09:43 AM
Lol I forgot it was so many colors. In my head the answer was green til I read this today.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
02-08-2012, 12:49 PM
Another strange (alien) mutagen is this in Archie

http://tmntentity.blogspot.com/2011/10/merdude-vs-ray-fillet-3.html

where affected also become 5 000 years old. This can't be the same mutagen as Shredder and Krang used, as it don't turn them that old (at least not in the 1987 cartoon), even in Archie Raphael and Ninjara told they would live very long, but not thousands of years.

gobo
02-08-2012, 12:59 PM
What color is Mutagen?
It usually looked white in the Mirage books.

Galactus
02-09-2012, 12:54 AM
Speaking of mutagen in the Archie book Year of the Turtle had what Don described as crystaline form of mutagen.

You could also argue that the Muta Crystals from the anime was the same deal.

stormbringer
02-09-2012, 01:15 AM
I wonder if we'll get rainbow kryptoni...er mutagen in the Nick series?

Mighty Bebop
02-10-2012, 08:49 AM
Season 4 episode “Were-Rats From Channel 6”

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae220/tonemaster21/mutagen8.jpghttp://www.environment-green.com/images/oil_slick.jpg????

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
02-10-2012, 04:46 PM
Mutagen changes color when it gets unstable according to Donatello's opinion.

Which episode?

Hermano Dyvas
02-10-2012, 04:50 PM
Which episode?

Like he said 2 posts below that, were-rats from channel 6.

Xav
03-07-2012, 08:30 PM
Any one else remember this ooze?

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k563/superman15857/IMG_0715.jpg Shouldn't Raph be on the strawberry ooze?

Killer Moth
03-07-2012, 08:45 PM
Shouldn't Raph be on the strawberry ooze?

Great, now I want orange ooze. Or, short of that, Ecto-Cooler.

As for the coloring issue, purple, green, blue, black, it doesn't matter -- as long as it does what it does. I suppose for personal preference, I'd pick green after being used to the first toyline, and all.

JakeSully
03-13-2012, 11:37 AM
They come in a variety of different colors mainly with the first being tutti-frutti, LOL.

CyberCubed
07-03-2016, 09:38 PM
Bringing this thread back up because of the screenshots in the first page, proving the mutagen was green in most episodes of the original cartoon after the first season.

Ninjinister
07-04-2016, 12:21 AM
Bringing this thread back up because of the screenshots in the first page, proving the mutagen was green in most episodes of the original cartoon after the first season.

Um... what

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
07-04-2016, 01:34 PM
Did Rocksteady just por water mixed with mutagen on Slash?

neatoman
07-04-2016, 01:47 PM
Seriously, how hard could it have been to keep one consistant color?

ToTheNines
07-04-2016, 02:24 PM
Seriously, how hard could it have been to keep one consistant color?

That's a good question. You should ask the guy in charge of coloring the turtles bandanas.

CyberCubed
07-04-2016, 03:09 PM
I actually like the idea of mutagen being different colors depending on how unstable it is. That was actually a plot point in one of the episodes.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
07-04-2016, 03:22 PM
As said before, the original films probably made green the standard colour (just like 1987 cartoon-Archie Krang made pink as standard-Utrom colour when the 2003 TMNT cartoon began).